so I fell for le tranny meme, basically I've suffered from

>>8570186
have you taken SSRI for bdd?

>>8570186
It honestly depends how you look.

You can be on HRT indefinitely and still appear male.

I hated how I looked before HRT and I'm still not perfectly happy with it now. But if your discontent with your body is mostly due to its masculine features then you will be better off on HRT than not.

If however you somehow expected HRT to make you attractive then I have bad news for you.

t. Former handsome man, now kinda-pretty femboy.

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>>8570206
Yes, it helped a bit but not much, I still obsess over a lot of the way I look and a lot of it pertains to masculine qualities and features (nose, jaw, general facial shape, body hair, height, shoulder width, rougher skin, facial hair etc)

>>8570209
I don't expect it to make me attractive, I just wanted to feel a bit more comfortable, I think most of my issues are related to masculine features like I mentioned in the bit above this.

HRT made me feel a bit happier, but i'm terrirfied of ever presenting fully as female and I'd find it impossible, i think I'd be ok presenting as male as long as i felt more comfortable about the above issues.

I also don't completely hate my penis, some days I do but most days I don't.

I've talked with my therapist before about where the issues started from and almost all of them are related to my more masculine features

>>8570213
Meant to mention, one of the things I'm not completely uncomfortable with also is my chest, I feel like breasts would just further my BDD in that regard, so idk what to do

should I just say fuck off to my hormones and instead just take really good care of my skin/shave my face/body really closely every single day etc to reduce the masculine-ness?

>>8570213
Sounds to me like you're still trans but just scared. Stay on the HRT but keep presenting male until you feel comfortable with yourself.

Pro-tip, male or female you cannot escape breasts. They come with age. At least if you're on HRT they will look nicer.

>>8570258
eh, idk though. I really don't dislike my genitals most of the time and I get sorta anxious at the idea of growing breast tissue.

I feel happier at almost the more minor effects that hormones has helped me with, smoother skin/body hair growing back less etc, i feel like I'd be at the same level of happiness if I just took really particular care of my skin/body hair/facial hair etc, the other things won't change (nose etc)

>>8570186
please help

>>8570186
Do you want to be a woman?

>>8570437
i dont know, i thought I did but now I dont know. sometimesI feel intense dysphoria but other times for weeks on end the idea of growing breast tissue and presenting as a woman even in private really scares me, but then the dysphoria always comes back when I stop.

being called a girl makes me uncomfortable too because it feels disingenous

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>>8570213
>some days I do
you're trans. No cis male hates his dick.

If you hate everything that makes you appear male, you're obviously not being gendered correctly, and it's foolish to just say, "oh, I'll just be a girly guy." That's how you get clocked as a tranny.

Do yourself a favor now, and push through the hardest part of transition. Get like every fucking surgery in the book if you have to. It gets better when you get to the other side and can be comfortable with your own body.

>>8570221
it sounds like breasts would just make you selfconscious of them. This makes sense, given that you're obsessing over whether or not you pass. Not saying it's wrong to be concerned about it, but just that your emotions can take a little too much control sometimes when you're scared.

Stay on blockers at the very least.

>>8570442
Dysphoria is cyclical for a lot of people. That's pretty normal.
Scared how? Are you scared of the world, or of being like this? If you had to live your life out, alone, on a deserted island would you prefer to be a man or a woman? What if you could mold your body however you desired?

Why does being called a girl feels disingenuous? Consider
>>8568419

>>8570454
Go to sleep cureanonette.

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>>8570452
>If you had to live your life out, alone, on a deserted island would you prefer to be a man or a woman?
A lot of people can't answer this honestly because they've internalized their discomfort so deeply. This is probably the hardest part about dealing with BDD when you can't see yourself as a girl.

>>8570462
I can't pretend to understand a lot about BDD, but I don't know how else I can help.

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>>8570454
Wrong

https://tgmentalhealth.com/tag/post-transition/

>>8570443
>you're trans. No cis male hates his dick.

eh, I dont necessarily hate my dick, just occasionally I don't really care for it at all, if anything the fact I cum less atm is making me scared because I'm afraid of irreversible changes

>>8570443
>Stay on blockers at the very least.

Would lower doses change anything or lessen the permanent effects? I take bicalutamide 50mg atm every other day because spiro was reacting badly to me

>>8570452
In the past I would've said female, but now staring the changes im unsure, but I still really despise all my masculine traits with the exception of my penis/flat chest which I only mildly dislike

>>8570454
tempted fempai

idk it sounds like I'm making a lot of excuses but I don't want to jump in to anything that I'll regret

>>8570462
I can agree with this, I suffered so much intense bullying as a kid that made me self concious about my masculine traits, things like arm hair as a teenager (I hit puberty kinda late due to developmental problems as a baby so people would make fun of me for suddenly having arm/body hair during late teens)

Other things as well from a personI thought was a family friends kinda hurt how I am sexuality wise as well as pointing out things that were masculine on me that I get hypersensitive and get anxiety about sometimes (height, penis etc)

sorry for long ass post most people will never read, I don't really know how to format or understand a lot of these thoughts

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>>8570454
You, a sad repressor, gave up on transitioning only to drive yourself insane, rationalizing the fact that you CAN be a man.

I, a passing transgirl, did not give up on transition when I started to look blatantly trans, and came out the other side a passing girl. I still need a brow shave, but I'm pretty well off, getting gendered correctly even by the fuckers in mcdonald's. I don't pass under a microscope, yeah, but the general public seems to think I'm a girl.

So who's the real bitterhon?

>>8570479
You've been introduced to dozens of papers showing the opposite, honey. There's a reason you're a board-wide joke.

>>8570479
>The truth is transition doesn't work.
[citation needed]

Let's see your "truth"!

>>8570485
>In the past I would've said female, but now staring the changes im unsure, but I still really despise all my masculine traits with the exception of my penis/flat chest which I only mildly dislike
If the changes are making you more feminine, and you want to be more feminine, what is the problem? What do you dislike about them?

>>8570505
>If the changes are making you more feminine, and you want to be more feminine, what is the problem? What do you dislike about them?

breast tissue/penile problems

>>8570510
>Your own damn citations prove it with the utter nonsense and lies.
Here we see Curehon's "truth"!

>no u

>>8570510
>correlation does not = causation
So it is a pure coincidence that people born with half-female brains are trans, right? It just happens that every transsexual is intersex, but there is no connection between these facts.

>Low quality evidence does not = evidence
You're seriously mentally ill or seriously stupid. Someone, once, in one thread, pointed out that an entirely different paper about whether transitioning helps was marked as low quality and you've been applying this to everything like an autistic retard ever since. You need to up your dose of antipsychotics.

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>>8570516
Imagine being this butthurt about other people's happiness and passing. This guy's one breakdown away from becoming a statistic.

>>8570510
>I'm perfectly sane
You're on antipsychotic medicine.

>>8570516
Get on the antispych pills. You're clearly not taking enough.

>>8570513
But you said that you mildly dislike your flat chest and that, half of the time, you also dislike your penis? How does that add up? I'm sorry for repeating myself here but I don't understand the big picture.

>>8570516
>>8570520
>>8570529
>>8570534
My main issue is I'm not sure if the majority of my issues are coming from gender dysphoria or BDD. Transitioning isn't going to change parts of my face that are set in stone and even then I've heard that a lot of people that suffer from BDD still obsess or are disgusted by themselves even after plastic surgery etc

So if I transition I'm afraid that BDD will still kill me and make me feel disgusted in myself and all I would have done is make myself a bigger target for anxiety and make myself even more of a wreck in public and to my family

>>8570534
>Will be up all night to dispense something you hate, which is called the truth.
>And to anyone here, do the research yourself. It's clearly obvious in plain sight

Listen to her dispense truth, everybody!

Thanks for enlightening us Curehon!

>>8570541
Oh sorry, I mean I don't dislike my normal male chest and I'm only sometimes anxious about my penis, I'd dislike my chest more if I started to grow breast tissue and it would depress me further

>>8570547
>Don't fall for bitterhon lies!

Ok buddy. Are you done shitting up the thread yet?

>>8570471
BDD is the thing in the back of a girl's mind that tells her she's overweight even when she's skin and bones. It's the little nagging itch that makes them obsess over their body image, so that they can be accepted and appreciated. It's the reason some girls don't go out without makeup.

So take this nagging thought, and apply it to a male. They look masculine, and they hate it. It drives them literally insane, because they desperately work to feel cute, but get crushed by the reality that they have testosterone in their system.

It's completely debilitating, and clings to people even after they've started passing.

>>8570485
You're getting worked up over permanence, and letting fear take control. If the only thing stopping you is your fear of CHANGE, you need to get the hell over it.

>>8570485
>I suffered so much intense bullying as a kid that made me self concious about my masculine traits
ugh, tell me about it. Kids called me a faggot because my leg hair hadn't grown in until I was 16, and my entire extended family seemed to be surprised by how tall I was every single time I came to visit. It's like they agreed I should've been 5'5" or shorter, and I always complained when they brought it up.

And I'll say this again, if you ever get upset about your primary or secondary sex characteristics, or have a strong aversion to them, it's a good sign that you're dealing with dysphoria.

Also, random question: did you have this intense, seemingly irrational fear of cross-dressing as a kid too, or was that just me?

>>8570510
>Also, I'm not insane bitterhon. I'm perfectly sane.
Anyone who has to say the sentence, "I'm perfectly sane" is more than likely doing some mental gymnastics. How about you chill out, man.

>>8570542
To be honest I don't know what to tell you. I don't really understand BDD. You sound very trans to me but like you also have some other problems that I don't understand and I'm afraid of leading you astray. What are the doctors saying?

>>8570551
>[citation needed], no seriously I'm not on antiphyscs. Wherever you got that meme from was a bitterhon troll pretending to be me.
lmao

>>8570551
>opinion discarded
That's one way to avoid facing up to your inconsistencies and empty 'arguments'! "opinion discarded" everybody who points them out!

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>>8570557
>I'm sane.
>The doctors say I'm sane. That makes me sane.
>Also, anything that comes out of a bitterhon's mind is BS by default to me.
alrighty then. Whatever you say.

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>>8570570
When I try to picture your face, I can't help but think of trigglypuff.

>>8570570
I called you out on your utter lack of citations.

>Still waiting on that citation
You don't get to ask for citations when from day one half your posts have been dishonestly and desperately trying to make excuses not to have to give any for your wild and baseless claims.

You know, excuses like "opinion discarded".

>>8570547
>These brain markers could be caused by many things. Maybe they are not so much "permanent" brain structures as you think? They're temporary markers of dysphoria that can be cured and are not the cause of it, but simply a marker?
We know they're largely set at birth and are only further influenced by hormones. That's the whole point.

>We don't know what they truly mean, so stop assuming and pushing a narrative.
We know that they're sexually dimorphic in men and women, and that they set one's brain sex. There is no "brain sex" beyond them. They're the physical incarnation of being, mentally, a man or a woman.

>There is absolutely zero proof that transgenderism is *caused* by brain differences, there is no proof of that.
It is a proof that transgender people *are already* not their birth sex when it comes to the brain, before hormonal treatment. What other possible interpretation is there?

>Also [citation needed] on transsexuals being intersex. There is absolutely zero proof of this, beyond brain structures, which are links, correlations not causations.
You really are an idiot. These structures are the neural differences between men and women. There isn't anything else to judge brain sex by.

Get back on your pills. Call your doc if you ran out. You're slipping.

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>>8570552
A doctor when I was younger diagnosed me with BDD and tried to help me deal with it with many different things, including meds, they helped a lot but it's still bad and still makes it hard to function a bit

My therapist I talked to recently tried to help a bit to talk thru it, she reccomended a gender specialist but they were kinda a huge hippy type person and suggested I could be likely "non-binary" which didn't really help me when I bought up breast growth with HRT and just told me that it wasn't a huge deal (which I don't understand) and that a lot of people don't mind and that they will likely not grow that much.

We talked about penis stuff too and we discussed it quite a bit that I lot of the uncomfortableness likely comes from childhood trauma and also that I'm not really interested in being dominant in a relationship anyway and so the issue wouldn't come up too much

>>8570557
>I am chilled out. I'm simply saying I was checked and found sane by a doctor.
lol

>>8570584
Don't bother arguing with her. She believes whatever she wants and makes whatever claims she wants. You're wasting your time if you try to give reasons points or evidence when she will NEVER give you the same respect, only insult you, ignore you, and carry on spreading her lies.

>>8570572
>I never claimed that a doctor saying I am sane = I'm sane. However, by all defenitions of sanity, I am completely sane.
No one sane has to continually profess that they're sane in face of disbelief..

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>>8570572
But you're rejecting your feelings and desires to put up a masking persona so that nobody can see who you really are.

Like, how is that the image of sanity?

>>8570589
And the fact that you're trying to dismiss my arguments without discussion should be proof enough that you have no legs to stand on.

>>8570589
>Now if you don't mind, it'd be nice for you to stop shitting up this poor dysphoric person's thread with your nonsense.
KEK

>>8570593
I know. I buried her in evidence many times before. Evidence she refused to read. At this point I just enjoy making her mad.

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>>8570604
>At this point I just enjoy making her mad.
See >>8570575

>>8570585
I really don't know how to help you. I'm sorry. Be well.

>>8570612
>We have absolutely no proof that they are the cause of one's brain sex
lmao they're all brain sex is that's literally what the term refers to

>>8570604
You waste your own time more than hers, since you actually expend thought and effort to debunk her. She on the other hand just repeats the same truisms, the same excuses, the same baseless claims, and calls you a bitterhon again and again.

You can't argue with a wall.

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holy fuck, I need a drink.

>>8570612
>There is zero objective proof of transgenderism being caused by an intersex condition
>There is "proof", but it's bullshit correlation=causation brain studies
holy mental gymnastics, you literally just answered your own question and then decided it's all wrong because it would go against what you believe is true.

The studies said that transgirls have very similar brains to cis girls, and vice versa. And you're asserting that this is just some coincidence.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>This is why we need a cure for AGP/Trans/Dysphoria
It does exist, and it's called transitioning.

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>>8570625
I don't have to remind myself that I'm a woman every day. I just am.

>>8570662
>Detransitioners
I've yet to see a case of this where the person passed and was accepted as female.
>People who suddenly aren't trans anymore (This is a thing, but very rare)
Do you mean transtrenders?
>Transitioners who fully pass and are unhappy
Depression and BDD. Cis girls deal with body image problems too.
>How a palliative care treatment that has no proven long-term benefits is anything remotely like a cure
The alternative is to literally change your brain structures. Good luck. I'd rather just change my body.
>How transitioner suicide rates are still extremely high
A decent chunk of society believes transgirls are just mentally ill freaks. It's really invalidating, and leaves some people abandoned and hopeless.
>and I could go further but won't bother.
I'm sure. Your only real point was with people that detransition.

>and be aware that long-term you may regret it!
oooooooooooooooooh spooky.

>>8570687
>Do you mean transtrenders?
OP here, how do i know im not just a transtrender with BDD and now actually trans

>>8570662
>>8570625
>I'm waiting on a citation for proof that
I'm waiting on a citation for LITERALLY ANYTHING you've refused to give citations on.

When you target a thread, you always demand citations, and then "high quality, good evidence" (whatever you consider counts as that) citations. Nothing is ever good enough.

But you refuse to provide even the basest citations for your own ramblings. If anyone asks, you call them a bitterhon, say they're derailing the thread you've destroyed, and demand citations right back like you don't even realize how much of a hypocrite you are.

[citation needed] please, Mrs [citation needed].

>>8570689
Transtrenders don't sit and ponder their options, they just cross-dress and claim to be all sorts of weird abstract genders.

t. an ex-SJW

She's attacking another thread and spreading more baseless lies.

>>8570668
>>8570683
>>8570688
>>8570699

>>8570703
I miss the days when this board had a legitimate trans community. It really helped me through some rough times back when I was struggling about two years ago.

Now it's like, transition help is gone, and mtfg is fetishist garbage. HRTgen is still reliable, but not that great for people needing advice.

>>8570703
tfw im the opposite of this to the point where I ideloize a lot women because I'm so jealous of them

>>8570696
We can scan people's brains and look for all of the different factors we've found so far. It would just be really expensive and require a team of scientists to manually analyze your results.

>>8570707
>I also am not gonna bother responding anymore to you bitterhons,
Classic Curehon excuse! She doesn't want to argue because she can't argue. She gets BTFO every thread.

Not buying your samefagging denials either.
>same typing style
>on at the same time
>same empty arguments and excuses
>"but it's not me honest, there are many curehons, i don't even agree with her!"

>>8570713
Honestly, I think you should just push through to the end. There's no question in my mind that you'll regret it if you go off hormones now.

>>8570713
>>8570734
That person doesn't want breasts though. It's a problem. I really do feel like they're trans but if having breasts will make them feel ill I don't know if transitioning will work for them..

>>8570736
It sounded to me like there was just a fear of not passing. Breasts are a pretty firm step towards being a girl, but they can look weird if you look male. It's not exactly a comfortable spot, and it's why I feel like the 4-8 month period of transition is the hardest.

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>>8570740
>please get on nofap for 2 years before trapping yourself at least
fucking TERFs

>>8570740
Nice try samefagger.

>>8570707
Hey Curehon #1, if you're really a different poster, how about asking Curehon #1 for some citations on her views about fapping that you disagree with?

You know, since you're so good at evidence and truth and all that, why not apply the same standards of evidence to this "other" Curehon?

Unless you're happy for your fellow curehons to post lies without being corrected? That wouldn't be ok, would it?

Or of course unless you're the same girl, "there's many curehons" was all a lie, and on top of your false claims you also pretend to be different people to get away with it?

>>8570740
>>hey just wait two years to start hrt

ok cool brb meth

dont stroke out on me

>>8570755
Talk to each other (>implying different posters), not me! I'm not the one ruining your "good name"!

>>8570740
>If you fap, please get on nofap for 2 years before trapping yourself at least. In a lot of cases, it can actually cure the AGP.

I've tried not fapping for several weeks at a time and it only lessens my attraction to women, I'm only slightly attracted to girls when I fap a lot

>>8570867
>Also nothing wrong with liking guys. Being gay is fine, just as long as you're not a tranny.

I've struggled to hold any sexual relationships in my life because I'm so uncomfortable with the masculinity in my body though, that's why I'm here asking.

Fourth Curehon targeted thread >>8570708 >>8570804

>>8570186
They shouldn't give hormones to people that don't know what they want and aren't capable of taking responsibility for it. If you want to stop then stop taking them.

Don't tell your parents. Figure out how to get HRT and get a doctor to mutilate with you without their permission, then excommunicate them. Then you can be here with us forever on the internet talking about it, and we'll always lead you down this totally safe irreversible path that has no credibility and a 40% suicide rate and sterilizes you. People never regret this and the science is settled.

>>8571056
I don't care about being sterilized, I'm not in to girls anyway and i don't want children, if I ever do I'd just adopt.

Parents would be suprisingly ok with it because they're probably more left leaning than even me, I'd still feel uncomfortable about it.

idk why you're being a prick about it, I'm legitamtely trying to get some advice and help and trying to explore alternatives to hormone therapy

I just want to say that I somewhat identify as a "cureanon" even though the one in this thread is a cunt

Yes, dysphoria is a real mental defect
SJWs and hons are a cancer with…dare I say…problematic implications
SRS is a path to suicide, that comment about "the vast majority are either dissatisfied or hiding it to support their narrative" hit the nail on the head
HRT helps, however. Until we have a "cure", that seems to be a legitimate treatment.

>>8570751
all assholes have good intentions.

>>8572174
They have selfish intentions but they want you to believe they have good intentions. Hero or savior vs the world complexes are common. The saddest part is they think they're changing THE WOOORRLLD through 4chan.

>>8570740
>If you fap, please get on nofap for 2 years before trapping yourself at least. In a lot of cases, it can actually cure the AGP.
What if you're not AGP?

>>8572174
How so?

>>8572297
Then you wouldn't be on /tttt/.

>>8570186
>If I stop taking my HRT meds will some of the effects reverse?
Yes

If it gets worse again without HRT you can try the raloxifene meme

If you have BDD not standing out objectively would probably help and breasts are the biggest gender cue that makes you look weird - you might feel better on HRT without tit growth

>>8570585
How much treatment did you get exactly? You should probably work on BDD first (maybe with titless HRT or blockers) but if nothing is working it might be worth it to try transitioning if your life is shit anyway

Also do you know any BDD forums/online support groups? I used to shitpost on BDD central but it got deleted and was wondering where everyone went to

>>8570472
>only includes people after surgery
>majority of detatrinsioners quit before SRS
I'm a fan of transition but anon
We need better research on this desu if only to have actual evidence against cureanons and such

>>8570550
>BDD is the thing in the back of a girl's mind
I know we're talking about an MTF here but half of BDD patients are male (even not counting muscle dysphoria)

>>8570891
kek that nigger stole my ATLE meme I made up months ago

>>8570186

thoughts??

>>8570485
Than you so much for this post!

Im at the point in transition and honestly your posts sound like me talking. I think almost the same exact things all day.

I don't have a therapist though. I really should get one.

>>8570557
Dont believe the doctors curehon! Theyre trying to brianwash you!

>>8570285
I think you're falling for the meme, you don't have to hate your genitals to be trans. I quite like mine, sure I'd prefer the female set but I don't see why I should hate what I have.

I also was pretty worried about breast growth originally, but once the rest of your body comes along you'll feel more comfortable with them.

>>8573416
I don't think genital hate is a meme, though I agree you don't have to hate them to be trans. I have had SRS and am really glad I did, every single day, because I don't hate what's between my legs anymore.

>>8570186

8 months HRT here. You're me. I don't look/feel any different than how I was as a CD. Everyone IRL sees me as a CD. Talk to your doctor but I'm slowly ramping down my Spiro so that "things" can start working again and I may also end up going off Estrogen as well.

>>8573832
I was born trapped. There was nothing I could do to prevent it, nor did I want to prevent it!

>>8573976
You're funny anon. Isn't there something else you'd like to talk about? Maybe we could be friends. I just want to talk about something other than trapping and bitterhons.

>>8573885
You know you can fap without getting hard right?
I usually just use a vibrator like the hitachi wand on my dick and a normal dildo in butt. I have a perfectly normal libido on HRT because my levels are normal.

>>8570493
>Traditional narrative nonsense
>it's a CONSPIRACY!!!!
Wow who can argue with that, truly that invalidates any evidence you don't like.

>That's not a citation, dumbass. And even if it was, 70% satisfaction is horrendous
>Repressing probably has a higher satisfaction rate than that
>but I don't actually need to cite my bullshit claims like I demand of everyone else

>>8570503
>you're literally being held down and FORCED to listen to doctors instead of believing my conspiracy theories without evidence!
Suuuure.

>There are many other options
Post literally a single alternative besides "just get over it".
Right now for all to see you can defeat the "traditional narrative" that transition is the only option by posting any one of the many alternative options you claim exist yet just can't ever manage to name.
I'm waiting, everyone is. Of course, you'll just run to another thread again or respond with a non-sequitur and refuse to answer because you DON'T have any alternative, you're just shitposting troll and anyone can clearly see you're the one pursuing an agenda without any evidence and no correlation or causation. Projecting and conspiracy is all you have.

>>8574007
I can accept that you're sincere in your beliefs, you're certainly very dedicated. You'll have to accept that I'm trapped for life and would never go back.
Unfortunately I'm in the Eastern time zone in Burgerland, and it's getting really late. It's past my bedtime though I'm sure I'll see you around again. It's hard to sleep now because of the humidity.

>>8571152
>"the vast majority are either dissatisfied or hiding it to support their narrative" hit the nail on the head
>if the people/data disagree with what I feel is the "truth" then they must just be lying to support the "narrative" conspiracy
lol how convenient and unfalsifiable

Gay people aren't really attracted to the same sex, they're just rebelling against good Christian culture and hiding the truth to support their narrative!

>>8574099
>STILL can't list ANY SINGLE ONE of the MANY MANY alternatives they claim exist

>>8574099
>Probably means not fact, dumbass bitterhon. That's why I said probably.
>I don't need citations for any of my claims and you're just bitter if you actually expect me to back up muh feels with literally any evidence

>the suicide rates are often higher post-transition
Citation? I don't see any "probably" along with that claim.

>>8574287
>there are lots and lots of alternatives out there, you just don't WANT to see them, but also I can't name a single one even though there are millions!

>people STILL haven't realized that appealing to "internalized ___" and having models of dysphoria in which 1% of BDD instantly makes you trans and the other 99% is "repression" is LITERALLY unfalsifiable and therefore just completely meaningless
>the only remotely sensible person here, cureanon, implicitly buys into the false dichotomy of "repressing / non-repressing"

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>>8570186
I don't know, I have horrible bdd. It comes and goes in waves. I'm not even really trans but I take blockers to keep child like traits. Things had gotten better and then I got an autoimmune disease that made me miserable and want to be dead.

I haven't been taking anything for a month, Fiona says you can get away with it but others say otherwise. I'll probably resume my cypro.
>>8570510
>>8570454
You became a complete hon though. You'll never pass in your life, you'll have a massive form and booming voice that scares the public, they'll probably think you're a street thug, and lots of AGP like you still crack and become megahons later in life. That makes you creepy.

Keeping yourself from becoming an ultra masculine gorilla doesn't equate to being mtf.

>>8574938
Blocking hormones doesn't preserve child like traits. It might prevent some development but overall it wont stop you from aging. There's also the risk of increased depression and weakness to severe depression, not to mention it's bad for the immune system.
The people that advocate HRT as some kind of fountain of youth usually employ faulty logic and don't understand the science even if they read it.

>>8574955
Don't forget osteoporosis.

>>8574955
It helps preserve neoteny. People here said I had childlike features. My health is now failing so maybe it was in vain.

But unless if you think I'm intersex or some other improbable nonsense it did work.

>>8570443
>No cis male hates his dick.
As an intactivist I despise every moment I have to gaze upon my genitalia. In fact many days I'd sooner cut it off so I don't have to look at what was done to me. It doesn't even feel pleasurable to use and it tore the skin just from getting hard. I hate it. But at least restoration could give me some semblance of the real deal.

>>8575783
I mean it's one thing to hate your dick because it's muitlated and another to hat the fact that it exists

It's like comparing someone with a gangrene to someone with BIID and healthy limbs then saying it's normal to want to have your feet cut off

>>8575800
That's fair. It's just, I can kind of understand where they're coming from. So many of their words mirror my own. Ironically, my trans gf is satisfied with her genitalia.

>>8575783
>It doesn't even feel pleasurable to use and it tore the skin just from getting hard.
Was it botched?

Have you confronted your parents about what they did?

>>8575889
It wasn't necessarily botched but it was done because of childhood phimosis. A load of shit. What they did was akin to setting a house on fire to kill a fly.

>>8575897
What age? What have they said about doing that to you since then?

>>8575977
I was 5. They said they did what the doctor said was going to be good for me.

>>8576000
There needs to be a way to hold doctors to account for their obsession with cutting boys.

Is your gf intact?

>>8575897
>childhood phimosis
ive had phimosis for all of my life (23) and im sure as hell not going near any form of surgery to fix it
im happy about it as im sure extra foreskin will help my srs results
you got cucked for being convinced to get surgery, you can fix it by yourself

>>8576113
if i have this and like how it looks and don't like seeing whats inside is that a sign of being trans?

>>8576142
i dont know, it might be
talk to your therapist about it

Look, I don't know what's really going on through you head, but if you feel as though you will regret this life altering decision, then just put it on the back burners for now (or forever)? If you wanna look fem just throw on some makeup and wear pink? (there's tons of YouTube tutorials that can help you look like a golden goddess)
alooooot of people out there can't stand the way they look, a lot of people out there dont wanna be who they are, but you just gotta let it go (I understand thats easier said then done, considering your diagnosis and your deep rooted self loathing). you are who you are. You can make it work without pumping your body full of chems and making yourself a girl. I mean, there girls out there who just look like fucking dudes, and dudes out there who like fucking girls,and just live their life. get over it, we all know nothing good comes from hating yourself.
And seriously, your low key upset cause some teens roasted you for growing pubes late? oh well!
youre full of self doubt cause your nose is to masculine and you're height is too tall and all that other shit?
if you want off the meds, then talk to your doctor, not a fucking 4chan post.
if you wanna be pretty THROW ON SOME HIGHLIGHT AND WEAR A FLOWER CROWN.
or not.
completely disregard everything I've said, idrc.
just dont hate the inevitable, cause that just deals a lot of fucking damage.

>>8576496
>let it go
>get over it
Do you also tell depressed people to "just cheer up"?