I'm a cis lesbian. I have feelings for a trans girl which

>>8553474
Well, for what it's worth, those hardships could be something you bond over. After all...
She had to get over the fact that she was born male. She had to get past fears of what others would think. And she still has to deal with the last point, too.
If you find love in spite of that, then it's forged all the stronger.

>>8553474
>how do I get over the fact that she has a penis?
15k$.
>How do I get over my fear of what other people will think?
>How do I get over myself?
Start being an adult.
>How do I get over the fact that she was born male?
You don't. Just try to ignore and not think about it.

>>8553474
Are you afraid of her dick? Most trans girls are genital avoidant desu, you might not even have to touch it.

>>8553496
>Are you afraid of her dick? Most trans girls are genital avoidant desu, you might not even have to touch it.
But, but, reddit says they love to use their dicks!

>>8553474
Why not just figure out a way to get rid of her penis? She probably hates it too

Btw, if she's as perfect as you say, then this is your chance. Since she's trans, her self-esteem is probably so low that she'll never leave you.

>>8553490
I know she has those same feelings. I know she has been dealt a horrible hand in life and has felt pain I can't even imagine and is just making the best of it. And despite all that she's been through she came out such a good and wonderful person, I love her all the more for it.

I just have hangups. Very serious hangups. I won't even try to deny that I have problems with men and masculinity and maleness. I don't think all guys are evil or anything, I do my best to treat everyone fairly and equally and not let me prejudices get to me, but I just have a straight up aversion to guys. I am uncomfortable around guys. I am uncomfortable with masculinity. The penis is a real life lovecraftian nightmare horror to me. I really do think of her as a girl, just as much a girl as I am or I wouldn't even be able to have feelings for it. But I can't ignore the innate maleness that is a part of her.

>>8553495
She hates her penis but she doesn't want to have SRS for a number of reasons, and I respect her feelings about it. I wouldn't really be 'into' an SRS vagina anyway (even though it would be MUCH better for me than her having male organs). Sometimes I think about her getting into an accident which destroys her penis (like a car crash or something) because I am a horrible person.

>>8553541
>She hates her penis but she doesn't want to have SRS for a number of reasons
I keep hearing this bullshit. Respect her feelings all you want but keeping it is nothing short of deviant honestly. A girl with a dick is not normal and will hopefully never be. Not aesthetically pleasing either if youre actually into females.

The surgery seems scary, yea, but all it really is is a lot anxiety prior, anesthesia and being high as fuck on opiates for 2-4 weeks. Like every other kind surgery.

>>8553563
It's her life and her choice. It would feel wrong of me to push it on her as bad as I want to.

>>8553563
And the high risk of infection and dilations required to keep the thing from trying to seal, and fear of a "botched" result especially now that the leading surgeon is booked through retirement, and the quality of his students is up in the air.

>>8553519
>Since she's trans, her self-esteem is probably so low that she'll never leave you.
Damned if that isn't true. My bf said the same kind of thing to me as one of my strong points...

>>8553563
mtf here. my ass has fissures and can sting and is unreliable for pleasure and i worry about losing orgasm. how is wanting to keep orgasm deviant?

>>8553581
>high risk of infection
Don't go to India?
>dilations required
Once a week half a year after the surgery, big deal.
>fear of a "botched" result
The alternative is a schlong...
And lifelong restriction on clothes.

>>8553580
>It would feel wrong of me to push it on her as bad as I want to.
That I can get my head around. Nontheless you could try to reason her out of her fear.

>>8553581
>booked through retirement

Is this true now? So it's officially over?

>>8553595
>how is wanting to keep orgasm deviant?
Because odds are very high you'll keep it anyhow.

>>8553606
It's more than just her fear. She doesn't want to risk losing the ability to orgasm but she worries that if she gets SRS now it could jeopardize her ability to get a superior procedure that may be developed in the future.

>>8553608
Yes something about gradually passing his work onto his students after 2018. He'll do all surgeries himself, then he'll do them mostly himself with students performing minor things, then students performing most with supervision, then retirement around 2020 or 2021.
Cba to find the source. Nontheless there's other decent surgeons.

>>8553625
That superior procedure will be unlikely to require old tissue, else it wouldnt be superior, so hardly a loss there. And its very unlikely to lose the ability to orgasm.

>>8553636
I can't make someone get an expensive invasive surgery just to be with me.

>>8553616
10% chance of never cumming again gives me pause

>>8553628
What would be the best option for someone who values aesthetics and passability the most, and lives in the western United States? I know not to go to Bowers or McGinn.

>>8553653
Wheres that statistic? How can you possibly fuck nerve endings up like that?

>>8553648
No, suppose not, but its a very valid reason to be disgusted and that's on her.

>>8553666
I think Meltzer was supposed to be ok US-wise, but I'd go to Thailand desu.
As much as the site sucks, go to Susans for first hand reviews. Won't get em anywhere else.

>>8553690
But... Weren't we just talking about how Suporn's not an option anymore? And I'm circumcised anyway.

>>8553680
I think her reasoning for not wanting it is valid. If I convinced her to get SRS and it didn't work out for her I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

I want to find a way to be ok with the fact that she has a penis.

>>8553708
literally just get over it faggot

>>8553701
Ah yes, Suporn, the only surgeon in all of Thailand.
From what I know they tend to use penis skin for the vulva only and tend to make them too big in order to have some excess to work with for a rather common followup correction, so I can't imagine circumcision to be much of an issue.
>>8553708
>I want to find a way to be ok with the fact that she has a penis.
Mental gymnastics it is. I'm not sure what you want to hear? I very much doubt you can force yourself to be into something youre not into, you can at best try to work around it.
Like >>8553727 said. Or stick to masturbating.

>>8553708
Okay is there some trauma with dicks for you or something?

Idk the only thing i can think of is chastity which is fetishy as fuck but maybe having it not possibly be a "threat" helps?

>>8553563
Get off your high horse. Your idea of aesthetically pleasing is no better than anyone elses. You don't have a good enough reason why people need to get srs besides being accepted by cis people.

>>8553708
Well, just know that she probably isn't going to want you to touch it directly. Maybe you can penetrate her with a strap-on or toys? Maybe you can use a vibrator to stimulate her?

>>8553734
I've never even seen a penis in person. It's just disgusting to me, it's a terrifying baby injector that forces something to grow inside you it's fucking disturbing.

>>8553734
I've actually thought that something like that (chastity) would make it better for me but I have no idea how I would even begin to propose that to her because like you said it's bizarre and fetishy as fuck.

>>8553738
I'm tired of transgirls crying endlessly about shit they can fix, make up excuses to avoid the hassle and cry some more.

>>8553740
I'm no expert on the matter but when my bf used my vibe he had very painful pisses for 2 days and wanted to die...

>>8553752
>terrifying baby injector that forces something to grow inside you it's fucking disturbing.
lmfao!

>>8553752
Trans girl dicks wont give you babby

And anyway I dunno. If you tell her your hangup with dicks and present it as something that might make you feel better if she'll try it... problem is idk how cages interact with tucking

>>8553764
It's still gross to me, even if the gun is unloaded. And again no idea how I would bring that up to her

>>8553806
You've just got to be frank and forthright about it. "We're both interested in having a relationship, but because these aren't circumstances I'm used to we need to talk through some things and lay some ground rules to make sure this is actually going to work right, for both of us."

>>8553752
>it's a terrifying baby injector that forces something to grow inside you it's fucking disturbing.

Are... Are you FtM?

>>8553814
I guess I could try something like that and hope she understands

>>8553819
The thought of injecting myself with testosterone practically gives me a panic attack so no

>>8553474

You are a retard and I will tell you why.

A cis lesbian being into a trans woman does not have the same biological limitations as a cis man being into a trans woman. You never had a chance to begin with when it comes to leading a normal life with her. There was no chance of having children. There was no chance of having insertion intercourse. Their biological sex could not matter any less - yet you're claiming to be hung up on it the same way a cis heterosexual person would be were they to date a trans.

>>8553845
>The thought of injecting myself with testosterone practically gives me a panic attack so no

Oh okay. Lol it's interesting how you seem to hate the idea of testosterone and penises as much as trans women do, but also the idea of pregnancy.

>>8553864
I like girls and I don't want kids. It's really that simple.

>>8553474
Accept that you're a bishit, stop pretending to be a cis lesbian and move on.

>>8553474
You can learn to stuff if it feels good.
Fall in love with her dick together.

>>8553507
Lemme guess, asktransgender?
Bunch of pervy transbian hons, desu. Hardly an unbiased sample to base your conceptions of trans women, or even trans lesbians.

>>8553590
He sounds like a borderline abusive, dominant boy. Just the kind i like.

>>8553474
>>8553708
Post pics or she isn't real. Kidding, obviously you wouldn't do that to someone you love. Also is her benis big and manly or little, feminine, and limp?
>how do I get over the fact that she has a penis?
Not trying to meme here but if you watched a bunch of porn of other trans girls masturbating with dildos you could slowly become more comfortable with the idea of being in a relationship with her having a dick instead of mutilating it to have a meat pocket wound that will constantly try to close itself up and is at risk of infection constantly.

If you really love her you'll be able to take steps to becoming more comfortable with her body, doesn't have to happen over night.

>>8553752
>>8553734
Do it OP, put a cute chastity cage on her.

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>>8553752
>it's a terrifying baby injector that forces something to grow inside you it's fucking disturbing.
So let her know you'd be uncomfortable with her penetrating you, the only real solution is to buy a strap on and be the dominate top in the relationship and fuck her ass and make her refer to you as mistress so she knows her place.

Then post a green text of the results, for scientific reasons of course.

>>8554514
>and is at risk of infection constantly.

Even the "no self-lubrication" thing had more truth to it than this.

>>8553474
Surgery and will esentially be bio female

>>8553474
Give her a hug.

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>>8555335
>Even the "no self-lubrication" thing had more truth to it than this.
The amount of misinformation about SRS around here is fucking hilarious. Anything to tell yourself not getting it is fine.
Worst part about it is the liquid diet prior and the pain after they take you off the morphine tbqh.

>>8555342
Well wait, let's slow down here. I don't think she ever said anything about this girl's passability, just the fact that she was "perfect", she could have just meant personality-wise.

>>8555537
No the worst part is that it's still not a cis vagina.

>>8555545
Sure you can keep dragging yourself down if you think that does anything for you, but maybe thats not the most healthy attitude.
At least it is a vagina. And on the plus side you don't bleed or cramp.

>>8555561
>but maybe thats not the most healthy attitude.
It's the most realistic attitude.

>At least it is a vagina.
It's not.

>>8555561
>at least it is a vagina
what
its the leftovers from your cut up penis dude

>>8555569
>It's the most realistic attitude.
Still a dumb one cause you'll never be cis so what exactly do you gain from crying over it day in day out?

>It's not.
Well thats like, your shitty opinion I guess. Enjoy being a freak with your dick?

>>8555561
>you don't bleed or cramp
That's not a plus. It is another part of the cis experience that we will never achieve.

>>8555590
they gain a lack of a messy, unnatural cutup axewound that burned a hole in their pocket and still causes dysphoria

>>8555621
>and still causes dysphoria
Nah it doesn't. I started going swimming cause it feels absolutely amazing not having that retarded bulge.

Besides what a dumb answer is that, you dont gain that from crying.

>>8555615
qq. Why would I want monthly pains and illness? I can't stand children anyway.

>>8555643
>I started going swimming
Wear shorts.

>qq. Why would I want monthly pains and illness?
Enjoy male I guess.

>>8555964
What?

i'm a cis lesbian and i also felt the same fear as you. but suck girl dick is sooooooooooo dope honestly

>>8556158
>lesbian
>likes dick in their mouth
what did xhe mean by this?

>>8553474
By simply thinking about her own situation and thinking about her. You think you dislike her dick? She probably hates it even more than you do and she's pretty much stuck with it until both a) better techniques are developed and b) she can afford it.

>>8555590
>Enjoy being a freak with your dick
And having a meat pocket 'vagina' made from the cut up remnants of your dick doesn't make you a freak?

>>8556345
At least I'm not a girl with a dick.

>>8556488
I thank G*d every day that he didn't give me genital dysphoria he was okay with just the tip

>>8553474
>How do I get over the fact that she was born male?
Physically, maybe. But if she doesn't come across as male now, it's not like you can turn back the clock and interact with her like that.

>>8556656
>he was okay with just the tip

BAIT

its so easy

>>8553580
Does she know about cosmetic SRS? If she's worried about dilation and healing issues but not about depth it's a pretty good option.

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>>8553474
>I wish she was biologically female so badly that it makes me want to cry
However badly you think you want that multiply that by a countably infinite amount and that is how much she wishes she was cis. Like it FUCKING sucks.
t. Lesbian transwoman who feels cis but isn't.

>>8553541
>I wouldn't really be 'into' an SRS vagina anyway (even though it would be MUCH better for me than her having male organs).
Reading this makes me want to punch you so fucking badly. "I wouldn't really be into an SRS vagina." How the fuck do you know?

You say you love this woman and yet you aren't willing to even cross a small hurdle of considering an SRS vagina on par with a natal one like FUCK OFF.

I think lesbian transwomen in Canada at least have no reason not to get the surgery. Brassard is supposed to be great, and genitals Especially vaginas all look different anyway.

Like I borderline want to call this out as bait.

Love her for the woman she is. Encourage and help her in getting SRS and LOVE THE FUCK out of her new vagina and life will be fine. Once you have SRS and pass being trans really isn't that big of a deal.

You missed out on shit as a kid but you can learn enough to make up for it with minor hiccups from your earlier socialization that can easily be written off as just odd ticks.
Again. Just love your gf don't make a massive deal out of it.

>>8556833
>However badly you think you want that multiply that by a countably infinite amount and that is how much she wishes she was cis.
This.

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>>8555561
Ignore the fucking idiots.

Like the reason you have to dialate is the same reason ciswomen who have a hysterectomy have to do it. The uterus is what keeps things anchored normally without it things don't stay the same. It is not a wound that is trying to close. That is a stupid fucking meme.
>>8555615
>you don't bleed or cramp
You will bleed plenty during the surgery and it will give you cramps for the time being worse than any period. So in a way you are just having all your periods at once!
The meme about it not looking like a vagina is horrible too. Like look at all these. There are so many different ways and shapes a vagina can take.

>>8556955
>The meme about it not looking like a vagina is horrible too. Like look at all these. There are so many different ways and shapes a vagina can take.
>Like look at all these.
Why are you trying to remind me how the trans ones stand out?

>>8556981
>trans ones stand out
Not really, mine is #5 in the top row and it's old tech from '05.

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>>8556981
Wow what fucking hideous atrocitieis

>>8553474
>I'm a cis lesbian
I already know what about this thread.

>>8557091
No way you are actually in that picture?! (Super cool/small world) #5 is pretty decent too btw so you should be happy and any lesbian should be fine with her partner having that.

>>8557091
Are you the one who posted the pic?

>>8557185
No, I posted it I am also >>8557139 being surprised that they are in the pic!

>>8555621
You haven't even seen modern neo-vags I'm guessing. A gynecologist could tell in an exam but aside from that no one would question its authenticity just going by how it looks/feels.

>>8553474
Neo-vags are typically indistinguishable from real ones unless you're a gynecologist examining one, why do you think you wouldn't like one?

>>8557230
>just going by how it looks/feels.
>>8557237
>unless you're a gynecologist examining one
You're very stupid, very ignorant and very dishonest if you think it has all the sensation and function of an actual vagina.

>>8557258
t. master sexpert on 4chan

also no fucking shit it doesn't have all the function of a real vagina it can't push out babies you tard

>>8557260
Nice sophistry but at least you admit you were lying.

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>>8557278
>everyone who disagrees with me is le same person meme

nice no arguments and 100% insults as always

>>8557282
Look, it's dishonest of you, whoever you are, to reduce the comparison of the feel and function of vaginas and neovaginas to "t. master sexpert" and "no baby".

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>>8557302
the point was that it was obvious from the beginning a neovag is not as functional as a real vag you absolute sperglord. it goes without saying even.

as always, in desperation to assign me an "agenda" you trip over your own words and fuck up whatever point you were even trying to make in the first place.

>>8557258
"Neo vags arent flawless hence having a dick is better"
Sure thing, freak.

>>8553474
>How do I get over the fact that she was born male? Etc
Just don't. Cut your losses now.

>>8557339
Liar.

>A gynecologist could tell in an exam but aside from that no one would question its authenticity just going by how it looks/feels.

>Neo-vags are typically indistinguishable from real ones unless you're a gynecologist examining one

>>8557355
>freak
Nice projection. Guessing your non-genitals are a sore point.

>>8558180
Nah just disgusted by dickgirls like most normal people.

>>8558696
That's projection again. I take it you feel nobody finds you physically attractive.

Maybe you're right but before giving up on your body I'd suggest maybe it's something else that drives them away.

she probably doesn't like it either. are you okay with a non-sexual relationship?

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>>8553474
>How do I get over my fear of what other people will think?
It's your life, not their. It's more reasonable to make decisions based on what you want, not on what others want you to be. Giving to much of a fuck about what people think of you will only hold you back in life.
> Most importantly, how do I get over the fact that she has a penis?
Well, that is a problem I don't have and answer to. I'm bi, so the whole genital issue is kinda alien to me and I can't give advice on that.
>>8553563
The current SRS techniques are far from acceptable for many in terms of how far they are from a real vagina. Take into account huge cost and all the related problems(likely losing your job, the risk of it being botched even with a reputable surgeon, etc.) and maybe you can understand why some trans women decide not to have it even if they can afford it and have genital dysphoria.

>>8558986
>even Adrian believed the memes

No wonder she killed herself.

I'm a cis lesbian, and dating a trans girl was one of the best things I ever decided to do. It's honestly not that different than having sex with a cis girl depending on what boundaries you want to negotiate, there's just certain things that are a bit more difficult to navigate body wise. Communication helps though. feel free to ask me anything. I think you might be surprised

>>8559079
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>>8559079
Is your gf pre-OP? How do you deal with and navigate around her having a penis? What do you usually do sex-wise? Does she keep her panties on during sex?
Not OP, but really curious about how such relationships work. Hope you don't mind talking about that.

>>8559079
Best and worst things compared to a cis girl?

Are you always the dominant one?

How male are they physically?

How male mentally/personality?

>>8559079
That's because it's normal for men and women to date each other so your brains were sympatico

>>8559096
yeah, she is. I don't really mind her dick, im mostly just neutral about it and don't know what to do sometimes. We use vibrators, sex toys, oral sex, she fingers me and vice versa, etc. I've even used a double sided dildo with her before which was....incredibly good imo and something I thought would be a challenge. We just can't rly rub our genitals together which is fine cause scissoring is fake anyways.

>>8559120
Cisbians and transbians both have male brains tho.

>>8559114
She doesn't look like a boy. She has boobs and a really pretty face and soft skin. I'm the more masculine/dominant one. The only thing I miss really is that vaginas are easier to use sex toys with and finger than anal stuff. Not a big deal though in the long run.

>>8559134
>We just can't rly rub our genitals together
Women can scissor and men can frott, why can't you mix the two?

>>8553474
>How do I get over the fact that she was born male?
you poor thing, I can't imagine how hard this must be for you

seriously, get over it or leave her
being trans is worse than being a partner of a trans person btw

>>8558996

Who?

Some of the advice here is so.... terrible

I don't know about you, but for me knowing a girls has a dick would just be a turn off

>>8553474
>how do I get over the fact that she has a penis?

you don't. You seem like you're forcing your attraction to her. When you're really attracted to someone, you don't "get over" their appearance.

At best you can just ignore it. Unless dick is a turn off. Or maybe you can have a relationship without sex.

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>>8553474
I'm too lazy to search the entire thread but you're going to cause an aneurism to that chinese virgin autist from cis lesgen.

I remember when she went full rage mode on me because I didn't agree with her killing all men and that I was a cockcraving slut that wanted my dad's dick deep inside my womb or something.

Seriously OP, you're like her kryptonite.

>>8553474
You walk away and realize you fucked up somewhere..

>>8559145
Then discuss it with her. You know, like people in healthy relationships do. Who knows, the actual girl in the relationship with you might have some insight that a chinese cartoon forum lacks.

>>8560122
Author of that webcomic presumably.

IIRC she wasn't confirmed to have an heroed, just vanished and her site went down, so that's the most likely guess.

>>8553541
>Sometimes I think about her getting into an accident which destroys her penis (like a car crash or something) because I am a horrible person.
What the fuck? You'd be okay with this happening but you wouldn't be okay with her penis being removed surgically?

>>8560146
Oh that autist. She's a stupid virgin kid and the milo of /clg/. Every gen has its residential idiots.

Whos better between Brassard and Meltzer??

>>8559153
Wouldnt that just be penetrative vaginal sex??

>>8561889
Depends which surgeon ends up having a better day during your appointment.

>>8561897
No, just rubbing for mutual stimulation without penetration.

>>8561953
Okay so if they're about the same then I guess i can try and see meltzer, i think my insurance will cover him

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>>8561955
So....dry humping naked

>>8562124
Well yeah, same as frottage and scissoring.

>>8562154
>scissoring
>dry humping
Scissoring might be humping, but it sure ain't dry.

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>>8561835

ew now I'm sad

>>8562796
She was a tranny, we're hardly renowned for being closer to the female life expectancy than cis men.

>>8562796
>>8562833
I think she was just way too self-aware as a tranny to make it. She understood that a lot of TERF arguments were rooted in fact and unavoidable reality and harsh truths. She couldn't deal with being one of the people who she fundamentally disliked. Self-awareness means death for a trans woman.

>>8562845
In what arguments are TERFs right?

OP, go for it!

>Most importantly, how do I get over the fact that she has a penis?
I've always been indifferent to cock & ass but I used to be scared of vag and eventually graduated to indifferent to that too. I'd suggest I could relate but I'm not sure because fear of vag is because you can't see the whole thing.

The penis is supposed to be just a more developed clitoris for one thing except also containing the urethra.

Maybe you could think of your trans gf as some kind of alien species and therefor might have different anatomy without the baggage of earth-maleness.

Maybe read hermaphrodite hentai and transition to dickgirl stuff and transition to crossdressing stuff.

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>>8562845

You're not exactly trying to be sympathetic to transwomen are you

>>8556833

well, this isn't angry, rapey or creepy at all. thanks for stopping by, dude, anything else you think women have to do because you say so?

>>8562154
>>8562748
Scissoring would have alot of vaginal lubricant presumably
Most transwomen dont leak precum to that degree

>>8553474
You let her fuck you with her feminine penis.

>>8563806
I actually wasn't thinking about cis girl x transgirl when I wrote that, but, yeah, you're right.

>>8553474
Learn some more about chemistry.
Chemistry is really interesting even the beginner stuff. And learning how people are really just giant collections of atoms working as gears in a messy machine might help pull the focus off gender. It's like when you think about how vast and empty and meaningless the universe is it helps put life here on earth into perspective.

If you like her and she likes you that's something special and beautiful in this world of hurt. Try not to forget that part.

>>8563135
I don't think you know how to read. Their point was if you really love somone and actively want to make it work then point out reasons why it isn't going to work like "I don't like SRS vaginas, but I have never actually seen one lol, and wouldn't bother trying to like it" Then you either are not really willing to try things to make it work, and in this case are being transphobic as fuck.
Think of it like this. Black woman A is unattractive. "I don't find black woman A attractive." This is totally fine to say.
"I because woman A is black I don't like her." You are a fucking racist.

Make sense?

>>8558986
>Take into account huge cost and all the related problems(likely losing your job,
oh... Oh this is fucking rich. PLEASE! Tell me how your gentials that no one can see are going to make you lose your job?

Even better why being a woman with an SRS vagina makes you more likely to be fired than being a woman with a dick.

If anything the latter case is more reason to be fired.

>>8564507
The immediate post op recovery is kinda lengthy, you'd probably use up a year worth of holidays. And even after that you won't be extremely fit again.
Thats not to say it cant be done but you'll need to be able to take about 30 days off.
Idk why else you'd lose your job.

>>8564619
I was off three weeks. That's probably the absolute minimum and I was pushing things a bit.

>>8564507
I wasn't talking about getting fired, but rather about the time you're gonna be away or not fit for working due to recovery.
In some countries you probably can get a medical leave even for something like SRS, but I was talking about my situation, which involves surgeons halfway across the globe and a country with virtually nonexistent trans health care. Oh, and I'm gonna need to fly halfway across the globe again in case I need any fixes/revisions.

>>8565718
Thankfully I am in IT so as long as I can sit I can just work remotely from home.
Finally, the meme is benefiting me for a change.

>>8565718
(In the US), they need to leave the job available for you when you come back. Surgery of any kind, including SRS, counts under FMLA. And simply factor in your time off under your surgery costs.

Y'all realize SRS genitalia is very different from natural genitalia, right? It's not the same, and don't try to convince people it is.

>>8565948
Less different than a fucking dick.

>>8565718
Why isn't there good trans surgery in the West?

how do i get a transbian gf
i'm not really into girldick but i think it'd be so cute and fun to help a trans girl w her makeup/find flattering clothes etc
plus i'm a bit of a tomboy and have traditionally male hobbies like vidya and tabletop and in my experience it's easier to find a transbian into those things than a cis lesbian

I've been thinking of going to Meltzer because I might be able to get him covered by insurance and I need a vagina as soon as humanly possible, which wouldn't happen with Suporn even if I could afford him. And I need to save money for FFS too. BUT but but, I keep getting paranoid that Mia's result was from Brassard and not Meltzer, and that her result was only good because of how big her dick was. I'm terrified of having a non-passing vagina, especially since I know that some of my cis female friends would want to see it.

>>8566113
I'm a closed discord server for lesbians that is mostly cis women but has a transbians as well (most of whom are single).

Toss me a message and we can I can chat with you and if you are cool I can try and get you in. [email protected]

>>8566136
I just had a friend who had surgery with Brassard a month ago and they are already looking really good. Like the only real tell is the light V shaped scar, and lack of any hanging labia (In she is an innie and he usually does it that way) otherwise results are really good, she says she has sensation, clit being better than internal but it is still only a month post op. She was up and driving 10 days later soooo Yeah.

>>8566049
I'm not from a developed nation, so I'm gonna have to go either to Thailand or to the US/Canada if I decide to get SRS and am able to afford it. Both conditions are unlikely considering the current state of SRS and the fact that I make $7k a year.
Sure, I could go to some local butcher of a surgeon and have it done for like $4k, but considering that SRS even from top surgeons is still borderline body horror, I'd rather pass on that option.

>>8553474
I started dating a trans girl a few months ago. I am a cis straight male. She is very early in the transition and still pretty much looks like a guy with long hair. Some of her family still don't even know yet. It is a little strange at first. But once we met irl for the first time it became really easy to get past the looks. We are still very happy together. It is annoying to have to deal with the prejudice and everything, but if you really want to be with them its worth it.

About the penis, it really is not that big of a deal. Idk what kind of sex you guys will do, but just try not to look at it I guess.

>>8567535
What about her personality? How does she act?

I'm op

Why is this thread still alive?

>>8567570
Dunno. I guess it's devolved into just tranny relationship discussion. How's it going with accepting your gf, op?

>>8567579
>How's it going with accepting your gf, op?
This

>>8567568
She acts pretty girly. But the bitch side of being a girl is not a thing with her, so that's a plus. And she doesn't get triggered but misgendering and stuff like that.

>>8567683
By*

>>8567683 >And she doesn't get triggered but misgendering and stuff like that.
MARRY HER

>>8567693
I plan to ;)

I hope this story has a happy ending

>>8565951

a vagina is an actual human organ, like your liver or kidneys. it has muscles, hormones, and functions all to itself. you can not make one out of a dick, full stop.

>>8567683
>And she doesn't get triggered but misgendering and stuff like that.

Sounded great until this part. You should stay away from illegitimates.

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>>8567822
Its still less of a dick than a dick.
Nigga is u retarded?

>>8568014
?????? She still looks like a guy. People can't be expected to know, and she understands that. She wears gender neutral clothes.

>>8568357
Oh okay. If she's not full-time it makes more sense.

>>8566160
Will the scar fade? Also, is the fact that she's an innie a bad thing for passing? I've seen cis women be innies before and it's appealing to me in the sense that it's completely unobtrusive (unlike what I have now....), but I didn't know if it negatively affected passing...