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Why not just kill homophobes that incite violence or commit

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Why not just kill homophobes that incite violence or commit violence?

https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/three-men-who-beat-gay-man-france-finally-jailed030614/

>Three men were found guilty and handed their sentences in a Parisian court today (3 June).

>K. Taieb and M. Abdel Malik, both 19, were jailed for two and a half years. They also face up to 15 months probation following release.

Please tell me moar about how le ebil KKKristian RethugliKKKlans are the real problem, cuckfag.
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>>8544963
Because the definition of "incite" is incredibly vague nowadays. And any permanent act such as killing may occur in the less than rare mistake of innocent people being accused for whatever reason.
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>>8544963
Since that pathetic excuse of a community doesn't seem to be willing to respect itself in any way, shape, or form, we're sadly not going to see something like that for some time.
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>>8544963
>Why not just kill homophobes
Because we try to be better, hard as it may be
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>>8545423
It's very easy to be a pacifist when you don't belong to the strong side. You're not virtuous in any way, you're just a coward, and you must realize that.
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>>8545494
> Not wanting to literally murder people who disagree with your lifestyle is cowardice

You're an unintelligent person who subjects themselves to a tribalistic us vs them worldview of black and white, and you must realize that.
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>>8545634
Praise be to Allaah.
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>>8545423
"Lots of ways to help people. Sometimes heal patients; sometimes execute dangerous people. Either way helps."
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>>8545634
Did I hit a nerve ? Does the truth hurts ?
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>>8545634
>self-defense is murder
What.
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>>8545634
>if you kill your enemies, they win
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>>8544963

>Filthiest of Allah's creatures
>Allah's creatures
>We will show our devotion to our creator by destroying his creations

Jesus christ you doublethinking morons
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>>8545841
They're literally brainwashed, not to mention uneducated.
It is sad that in [current year] there are still people like that in the world.
I blame anyone who is against birth control.
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>>8544963
A lot of the LGBT community outside of 4chan are basically like lambs to the slaughter, with Social Marxists trying to shove them head first into the meat grinder. It's aggravating to see but I think the best we can do is round up who we can and leave the rest to fumble into the killing floor.
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>>8545634
>things goyim actually believe
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>>8544963
under sharia law gays are literally faced with 4 choices:
have your nuts cut off and become less than a woman in a nation where women are literally property (compromise)

get thrown from the highest cliff (mountain or tall building) until you die (execution)

hide your true identity forever until you can escape or kill your own emotions (defeat)

literally actually kill all of your oppressors and probably die failing to make a dent in the overwhelming numbers of brainwashed zealots (futile courage)
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>>8545634
No you're thinking of Muslim homophobes.
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>>8545983
>hide your true identity forever until you can escape or kill your own emotions (defeat)
people in saudi arabia seem pretty content this way and the government itself kind of lets it go except when the homo hunter guys get a hardon for reminding the gays to stay quiet

its a place where you might die, but probably wont
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>>8547136
>homo hunter guys

You know that anyone who volunteers to do this is probably a faggot. Straight men don't even like being in the same room as gay men.
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>>8547154
not muslims man they aren't about living in peace and respecting boundaries they all love rape and mob violence
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>>8545751
>Homophobia is murder
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>>8547296
>I'm possibly one of the most retarded people ever, the post.
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>>8548323
>I'm possibly one of the most ret*rded people ever
You sure are. I'm not saying that I disagree with the principle of self-defense, in fact I fully agree with it. But the whole notion of "pre-emptive self-defense" is pretty stupid, it ends up just being an excuse for unprovoked violence. If you find that they're literally planning to attack you while you're on the way home from work or something, then sure, attacking them before they attack you might be justified if there is no other way to guarantee your survival. But merely being a homophobe, or "disagreeing with your lifestyle"? Now that's a different story. I think homophobes are idiots, and a cancer on society, but as long as they're not actively engaging in or calling for violence, or using the state apparatus to do so, then they don't deserve to be killed for it. I mean, it's honestly pretty ridiculous that I have to explain this to you. Someone doesn't lose the right to life just because you think the world would be better off without them. Because honestly, there are very few people who DON'T feel that way about somebody else, and if everyone acted on it, then the world would be even more of a constant bloodbath than it already is. Is that really what you want?
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>>8544963
>Why not just kill homophobes that incite violence or commit violence?
You want to reduce the population by 85%?
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>>8544963
>you can only reject one type of extremist violence at a time! you literally HAVE to choose either us brave patriotic white heroes or the dirty foreign invaders to murder you!
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>>8549648
>disagreeing with your lifestyle
What kind of pathetic people use such meaningless words ? Can't you use normal meaningful words, like "hating your guts" ?
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>>8544963
>Effeminate homosexuals are the filthiest of Allah's creatures.

can confirm

masc only pls
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Because muslims are above fags on the Social Justice Pecking Order
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>>8550882
So if someone hates your guts you're justified in killing them?

What king of Mad Max world do fucking idealize?
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>>8552873
You presume much of me, I'm more on the neutral side. There's no difference between killing someone and making his life unbearable. Killing someone socially or physically is the same thing. Your thinking just isn't deep enough. This retarded conflict between straight people and gay people has been going on for far, far, far, far too long, and it must end. There are people on both sides that deserve death because of their fundamental rejection of obvious moral truths, and I'm really not talking about someone who is merely against gay marriage or things like that. (since I'm also against it anyway) We should live in a society that's ruthless enough against both degenerates and haters to satisfy anyone that is sincerely looking for mutual understanding.
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>>8552908
Oh, you're just a crazy person.

Carry on. Day of the rope is coming, my brother!
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t.cherrypickers
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>>8550882
Listen, if it was people actually saying "let's put gays in concentration camps", then I'd agree with you. I've seen plenty of radical centrists insisting that literal fascists are just "expressing different opinions", when they're actively calling for genocide, and I'm tired of it. But if it's just "homophobia" in general, then that's not automatically an act of violence that justifies violence in self-defense. Rather, make them follow laws and not harm LGBT people, and if they DO get violent and start attacking gays, then it's self-defense to fight back.

>>8552908
>There's no difference between killing someone and making his life unbearable
There is a matter of degree/extent though. I don't fall for the "negative rights" meme, but I do recognize that some things are more harmful than other. Forcing someone to starve to death is no different than killing them by their own hand, but saying "I think gay dudes are gross" isn't on par with actively causing gay people to die. It's still wrong, but it doesn't justify murder since it simply isn't causing that level of harm.
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>>8553044
>I've seen plenty of radical centrists insisting that literal fascists are just "expressing different opinions"

If believing in actual free speech is radical, then I'm radical.

I'd easily fight and die for someone's right to sit in a public space and say I deserve death for my sexuality.
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>>8553081
Then I say you deserve to die for your utter retardation.
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>>8553081
I don't think it's "free speech" if that speech entails literally advocating for violence.
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>>8553116
Depends. If you're calling people to go out and form a lynch mob, sure.

If you're talking about a delusional future political ideal where all the gays are exterminated? That's abstract and protected.

>>8553115
>You deserve to die for thinking people should be allowed to say people deserve to die
Wew lad.
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>>8549832
Good idea. The overpopulation problem needs a solution.
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>>8553129
Very few things are impossible in this world.
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>>8553149
Society won't undergo a massive Nazi-esque because we let the westboro Baptist Church protest. That's not how social movements happen.
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>>8553159
You certainly don't know how social movements work.
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>>8545634
They don't just disagree with your lifestyle, they're willing to attack and even kill you for following it.

You don't tolerate people who are intolerable to that degree, you fucking get rid of them before they hurt somebody.
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>>8553164
Cultural upheavals don't just emerge in normal societies you idiot. You think Hitler was special? No. He was a dime a dozen anti Semite. The situation within Germany was such that his views could take hold.

>>8553167
If someone is actually attacking people, they are committing a crime. Arresting Nazis for being Nazis isnt right.

But this conversation isn't going to go anywhere because clearly you all believe some shouting at passersby in Central Park can invite a revolution that ends with genocide. As if there haven't been millions of those people in the US already.
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>>8553179
The gay "community" itself, because of its excessive tolerance and apathy towards degeneracy, has created the perfect climate for such a thing. Mark my words.
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>>8553199
>Gay acceptance rates higher than ever, continue to increase
>THE GAY GENOCIDE IS NIGH! BELIEVE ME!
lol. The poor, sad life of a prophetic idiot.
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>>8544963
>Why not just kill homophobes that incite violence or commit violence?
Because that will make you an extremist and extremism is haraam both on 4chan and in the West unless it's homophobic extremism. You'll become a fair game to the government.
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>>8553204
There is no need to be a prophet to see it. But you are blind.
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>>8553204
>the right-wing mind in a nutshell
But that's nothing, what's tragic is that many self-professed "liberal" (moderate leftist) people, too, think that the society is "suffering" from too much sexual freedom.

Example: feminists and transwomen with their condemnation of porn.
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>>8553129
>If you're talking about a delusional future political ideal where all the gays are exterminated? That's abstract and protected.
Sure, but if someone is actually running for political office where they will have the power to put their plan into action, I'd say that is basically a legitimate threat of violence.
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>>8553234
Porn is an abomination.
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>>8553234
They oppose sexual "freedom" when that "freedom" is used as tool of oppression, to deprive people of their ACTUAL sexual and non-sexual freedom. I'd say the freedom to go out in public without having to worry about being raped is far more important than the "freedom" to have access to fap material.
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>>8553246
>They oppose sexual "freedom" when that "freedom" is used as tool of oppression, to deprive people of their ACTUAL sexual and non-sexual freedom.
I wish.

>the freedom to go out in public without having to worry about being raped is far more important
They take it much further than that. They turn it into a right to deny men boners.
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>>8553239
And that's why you have no moral high ground over your homophobic killer. You are "liberal" only when it suits your personal taste. "Liberalism" is your excuse for your favourite degeneracy. You have no real ideology.
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>>8553270
Where exactly did I ever implied I was liberal ? Of course, I have the moral high ground against any homophobe.
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>>8553258
>They turn it into a right to deny men boners.
Lolno. Men can have boners without consuming misogynistic pornography.
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