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I see a question here a lot, "Am I trans or is it just a

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I see a question here a lot, "Am I trans or is it just a fetish?"

What's the real answer?
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are you retarded?
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>>8517553
yes
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"Allahu akbar. Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar...ALLAHU AKBAR!"
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>>8517553
>>8517766
Yes
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>>8517773
Praise be to Allah
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>>8517553
It's the most redpilled fetish. Becoming a cute girl and getting plowed in the butt is the true path to happiness.
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>>8517796
Sometimes it feels like this is true.
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>>8517553
both
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>>8517553
Most times it means you are repressed trans. Sadly. It would be easier otherway
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>>8519381
Of course it's an easy question for Blanchardians.
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>>8517553
It depends on the individual.
A lot of repressed transsexuals develop a fetish relating to becoming like the other sex while repressing in order to cope and tragically mistake their gender dysphoria for something that is caused by this fetish rather than the other way around.
A lot of cis people develop the very same fetish for different reasons. In some cases it causes them to feel confused about their gender identity.
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i feel like this thread is redpilled. enough so that i dont even need to say anything. i dont know how the fuck that happenned. im proud of you.
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>>8521185
>A lot of cis people develop the very same fetish for different reasons.
What reasons?
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>>8521258
I wonder about this too
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>>8521375
Any guesses?
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>>8521258
>>8521375
>>8521383

Long-term porn (or other sexual stimulus) exposure triggering an irreversible epigenetic event (or set of epigenetic events).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetic_theories_of_homosexuality
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>>8519291
Mainly when I'm getting plowed in the butt, amirite?
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There is no such thing.
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It's a fetish like being gay is a fetish. LGBTQ+ is a fetish club
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>>8517553
You're trans
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>>8522615
Are those things reversible?
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>>8523601

Not really. Conversion therapy, for example, doesn't work because once a gene expresses itself a certain way, it's extremely difficult to 'unexpress' it.

In the distant future, it might be possible to use virus-based gene therapy to undo certain types of epigenetic expression and literally, medically "cure" a person of homosexuality/transgenderism/etc.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vectors_in_gene_therapy#Viruses

but considering that homosexuality/transgenderism/etc. are, in and of themselves, no more harmful than heterosexuality is, there wouldn't really be a point in doing that.

The sexual urges/tendencies brought about by epigenetic events are, to an extent, suppressible (the extent to which varying on an individual level), but they are not reversible. That's why every once in a while you might discover that a deeply conservative or religious person is actually a self-suppressed homosexual themselves. It's why sometimes a married person with children might 'all of a sudden' turn out to be gay. In both cases, they were actually epigenetically gay since whatever event triggered that particular type of gene expression, but knowingly or not, they were suppressing themselves to preserve some sort of social/cultural normalcy.
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>>8522615
>>8523877
Epigenetics triggered by porn. Fucking LOL
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>>8523877
I would like to supress my GD
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>>8523877
what predictions would an epigenetic theory of homosexuality or of either transsexualism type make that distinguish it from any more accepted theories?
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>>8521258
>>8521375
>>8521383
In the Secret Blanchardian Conspiracy Chatroom, we speculated that perhaps there is a sort of PsAGP that is motivated by the same thing as interest in lesbian porn, namely "MORE GIRLS " rather than by actual AGP. This could help explain why so many cis men seem AGP when asked (15% in studies by Hsu and Rosenthal; 50% in surveys by me).
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>>8524855
What, you can't add emoji on 4chan? :(

Read "MORE GIRLS " as "MORE GIRLS :D"
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>>8524855
I have had a path fron agp - lesbian porn to clear dysphoria and want to revert it
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>>8523917

I'm sure it sounds silly on the surface, but think about it for a minute.

The fact that any of you are on /lgbt/ at all means that most of you have probably been internet users for 5+ years. I bet you didn't just wake up one day and decide to check this particular 4chan board out, you had probably visited other boards and strange corners of the internet for years and then eventually gravitated towards this one for whatever reason.

In all the time you've spent on the internet, if you regularly watched porn at all, I would bet that you found over time that your sexual interest gradually expanded, roughly in line with the content you consumed. You saw a video or image that 'awakened something within you' or developed a fetish through exposure that you didn't have before. You acquired sexual tastes over time.

Could you bottle up those new fetishes/kinks/interests if you tried? Possibly. But would you want to?

You've seen those memes about how 'oldfags jerk off to anything' or whatever. If the theory I present to you is correct, it's because over time, repeated exposure to new expressions of sexuality triggered epigenetic events and expanded tastes.

I bet many long-term internet users were very straight and very vanilla before they found themselves acquiring new tastes.

It's not just porn, either. A sexually stimulating event in real life could pull the same triggers (the tragic story of an assault victim becoming sexually attached to the event/the assaulter comes to mind). Kinks/homosexuality/transgenderism have obviously existed since long before the internet (although note that it's becoming more common in correlation with mass internet availability). I would argue that all these phenomena are largely the result of epigenetic expression.
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>>8523925

And I would wager that you probably could suppress it, if you truly needed to. But the consequences, I'm guessing, would be psychologically devastating.

You have to do a cost-benefit analysis and come to your own conclusions. Is being closeted worth the detriment to your mental health? Would the gains in happiness from coming out and transitioning be worth the potential social marginalization or even hostility/violence? Could you actually pass well enough to be truly comfortable and happy with yourself and minimize the risk of being ostracized? Those are questions only you can answer, and they're not exactly easy ones to answer either.

It's unfortunate that you should have to consider suppressing at all, though. In an ideal world, you could live as whatever you wanted without fear so long as you weren't hurting anyone, but sadly our world is not ideal.

So why do you want to suppress?
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>>8523926

Do you think the ancient Romans were 'born gay'? Or is it that same-sex relations were such a common part of Roman tradition that anyone born into it would naturally develop an epigenetic inclination for it through exposure?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome

Do you think there's some Thai-exclusive 'gay gene' that explains the prevalence of transgenderism/ladyboys in Thailand? Or is it that transgenderism has been openly practiced and accepted in Thai culture for so long that anyone born into it is more likely to develop an epigenetic inclination for it due to exposure?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathoey

Epigenetics would also explain why, of a pair of twins, only one might be homosexual. It would explain why individual sexual interests tend to expand over time. The more common 'gay gene' theory explains none of that, because it's so incomplete that it may as well be wrong.

You can test the epigenetic theory against whatever other theory of human sexuality you might come across, and every time, the epigenetic theory will win out as being both the most logical and the most scientifically demonstrable.
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>>8525381
I would be ugly chick while i have some charm as a guy. And I woul lode massibe inheritance
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>>8525598

Would you be happier freely living as an "ugly chick" but losing your inheritance? Or would you be happier suppressing, but remaining a guy with "some charm" and still qualifying for your inheritance?

Would you really be especially unattractive/non-passable as a girl, or are you being excessively self-deprecating?
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>>8525671
Tbh I'm not sure how I would look. Face app made me look a bit like mumsy which is good. But im quite bald and have big nose
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>>8525738

How old? Where do you live? If you're mid 20s or older and balding, then yeah, passing might not be the easiest thing. But don't take that as a discouragement, it's still ultimately up to you. It's a matter of your own personal happiness.
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>>8525759
Mid twenties yes from eastern Europe
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>>8525418
>Epigenetics

No matter how many times you say it, you still sound dumb.
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>>8525766

It's worth noting that hormone replacement therapy can sometimes prevent or even reverse male-pattern baldness and hairline recession, but there is absolutely no guarantee that you'll have a full head of hair after starting.

Also, there are plenty of biological females with big noses. That in and of itself doesn't necessarily disqualify you, unless it's truly comically oversized. You could probably minimize or distract from many of your masculine facial traits with good use of makeup.

Living in Eastern Europe, however, I would imagine trans acceptance is relatively low, unless you live in maybe Croatia or Slovenia or some other central EU state.
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>>8525778

Believe it or don't, it is still the most sensible and scientifically demonstrable of any 'gay' theories.

Why does it sound dumb to you? What does epigenetics fail to explain, or poorly explain, that some other theory explains better?
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>>8525828
It doesn't mean anything.
Just use regular words to explain your ideas.
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>>8525812
I live in Croatia, by origin of catholic bosnian high Nobility. It is hard
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>>8525858

It very much does mean something, but okay, I can try to simplify.

Tastes for food, activities, situations, people, settings, etc., can all be acquired. Likewise, sexual tastes can be acquired. Once you've acquired a taste for something, it's quite difficult to unacquire that taste.

This is due at least in part to epigenetic expression.

I think that analogy is easy enough to digest.
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>>8525872

Well the good news is that, as far as I know, Croatia is quite possibly the most progressive of the eastern European states, especially when it comes to legal rights/protections for LGBT folk.

The bad news, of course, is that it's probably still less progressive than places like France or Norway, and that there's probably still significant resistance to transgenderism and homosexuality in everyday Croatian culture.
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>>8525872
>catholic bosnian high Nobility
Are you saying you're... a trans princess?
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>>8526570
Croatia isn't a country. It's a German forward division.
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>>8525355
did you even read your own sources? its triggered in uterus when the brain is forming
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>>8530398

What is the "it" you're talking about?

Epigenetics can be a factor during fetal development, too. It doesn't only come into play after birth.
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>>8530285

wut
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All mtf on here are going through a phase because they're weeaboos lol
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>>8531763
The changes to the brain structure that determine your sexuality and gender identity.

It doesn't come into play after birth at all, even those who undergo hormonal treatment don't become trans.
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>>8531801
Za dom spremni!
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>>8532273

Epigenetic factors don't change the brain STRUCTURE directly. They modify gene expression, including genes that affect brain chemistry, which could contribute to behavior.

Those base-level physiological changes that occur in the uterus, however, are overwhelmingly genetic (not epigenetic). That's the reason there ares separate X and Y chromosomes: each codes for a different biological sex.

But the development of one's SEXUALITY is, in my opinion, majorly attributable to epigenetic factors that occur over the course of one's life.
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>>8532273
>changes to the brain structure ... determine your sexuality and gender identity.
Proofs.

Correlation != causation.
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>>8517553
>What's the real answer?
"See a therapist."
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