How did it come to the point that, not only was feminism hijacked by sex-negative feminists,
but we as a collective are being put into the same group with them despite inherently depending on sexual liberation and fighting puritanical thinking such as anti-objectification which is the kind of cancerous shit Abrahamic religions moralize?
How the fuck do we make feminists see that anti-objectification is a meme and that they would cut down 90% of hate by just removing that shit from their movement?
In what fucking world is it all of a sudden fine to shame people for having physical attractions and preferences while calling yourself progressive? Before feminists, it was god damn bible humpers and Quran humpers who did this shit.
>>8487800
OP how do you think the bible thumpers and quaran thumpers decided to do something like that? this is a people think, not a feminist or religious thing. people want to tell others what to do. as for how to get feminists to stop being retarded, I'm really at a loss myself. SJWs are already a cult, its like trying to take down scientology, but with a reputation hard to touch
>>8487800
Why do trans women care so much about the opinions of largely sex-negative, second-wave TERFs, when their identities revolve around sex- and body-positivity?
>>8487800
>thinking feminists were ever the good guys
>>8487834
>OP how do you think the bible thumpers and quaran thumpers decided to do something like that?
It must have been special because other cultures that have never been infected by Abrahamic piss from the get-go are way more open-minded about sex and eroticism.
India, Far East, South America/Central America, Indonesia, there's plenty of not fuck given about sexual moralizing.
Even taking Japan as an example, they never developed any animus against incest until the West came along, and even then the sole anti-incest laws are not being policed at all and are merely a decoration for westerners to see, while society at large doesn't give a shit about it.
>>8487886
kind of hard to give a shit when you ar eworked to death nearly every day and the idea of marriage seems preposterous
>>8487800
What are you even thinking bitching about objections to objectification here? You should have heard all the complaints of this board being taken over by trannies, and objectification is the most glaringly apparent problem for such.
Seriously, you can so regularly see transwomen being regarded as objects. PERSECUTING OBJECTS. That seems really bad.
>>8487800
>feminism hijacked by sex-negative feminists
>sex-negative feminists
Wait, what? That's actually a thing? I so gotta hop aboard!
>>8487800
This is what happens when you reduce all nuance to your side (The left) and leave only identity politics. The problem is that looking past the most basic and superficial elements of someone means you have to think every once in a while.
>>8488086
"Objectification" is a meme.
People have preferences, that is not a meme.
People have relative and subjective attractions which make them who they are, and which should never ever be forced or twisted by some external force or ideal, that is not a meme.
"Objectification" is the broadest brush stroke argument of moronic proportions which attacks people for daring to possess free will and an identity, which makes it a fucking meme.
If you want to find justice for trans people, do it by not substituting justice with an injustice, because "objectification" is not only a meme but also an injustice in its concept and moronic definition, a most moronic excuse to shame people.
>>8487800
It's simple.
They're not fighting for something.
They're just kicking against the status quo like a bunch of female teenagers rebelling against conservative daddy by bringing home Tyrone, or becoming lesbians, or shit like that.
When you look at it that way suddenly everything makes sense.