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>be me >think about 2 things almost every day >transitioning

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>be me
>think about 2 things almost every day
>transitioning and suicide
>can't seem to do either
>when i want to transition i always find a good reason not to try
>when i want to kill myself i think about how my parents would feel

I feel like no matter what I'm going to be miserable. Is it worth it to try to transition if there is a slight chance at passing? Not passing is one of the things that scares me the most about transitioning. If I knew I would pass at least decently I would just do it regardless of it fucking up other things in my life.
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Don't wait. It'll only get worse.

JUST TRANSITION DO IT
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>>8471226
Probably should
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>>8471210
A G P
G
P

Don't transition. Man up, and start repressing.

See repression general for more information.

Best of luck, brother (or sister, if you prefer it, but still stay male physically forever)
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>>8471326
Senpai I've been repressing long enough to know I will either kill myself or transition. I've been to repression general and everyone there clearly states they want to transition. You can't repress forever it will make you a husk of a person.
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>>8471337
I've been repressing for over a decade.
There is always a price one must have to pay in life.

If you feel you KNOW you will transition or suicide, then you know the option you should choose, anon. (It's HRT.)

Transition as a whole is palliative care, and there's nothing wrong with that if you have no other options, but be aware of that fact before you proceed.
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>>8471337
Quick addition: I don't wish to transition, and I'm from repgen. I'm holding out for the AGP cure - There is always hope, even in the darkness, when you think it's hopeless.

Hold on, you can make it to the end of your life naturally, as a male.
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this is insane
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>>8471337
I know you are strong, anon. I mean look at your last 4 digits of your post number, anon. You are elite, you've come this far, go all the way.

>>8471359
What is insane?
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>>8471363
manchildren buying into the trans meme, because manhood requires transitioning into a man, but it's been misdirected into being a homosexual due to low self esteem and the trials of manhood make it not worth it.

I don't care, fuck off
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>>8471374
Regardless of sexuality, AGP or HSTS, trans people need help. I'm still waiting for you /pol/faggots to come up with actual relief for gender dysphoria. Just "manning up" doesn't relieve it, it just keeps it at bay.
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>>8471359
>>8471374
/r/ing that "things i don't like in a thread i entered, how could this happen to me?!" meme
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>>8471381
there's no mercy more beta males, women don't want you, society doesn't care.

transitioning is suicide
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>>8471396
*for
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>>8471396
Well aware, this is why I have been holding off for over 10 years. I'm waiting for a real cure, and will until death don't you worry /pol/guy.

I'm aware society doesn't care. Not even trans people give a fuck. But I'm not one to simply give up.

Oh by the way, you can gas however many degenerates you want, there will always be LGBT people in existance.
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>>8471396
You of all people should know life is a natural hierarchy and there will ALWAYS be a beta and an alpha. Dismissing betas will just result in you "alphas" having nothing to even rule over.

Have fun with your /pol/ fantasies, anon.
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>>8471408
>>8471418
the problem is

/pol/ is always right
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>>8471427
>/pol/ is always right
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>>8471408
>Oh by the way, you can gas however many degenerates you want, there will always be LGBT people in existance.

anyway I never said I wanted to gas people

I'm just saying you're going to be a miserable wannabe fucktoy thinking of suicide either way

maybe the answer is to try and work your way out of the black and white thinking of your problems all boil down to suicide or becoming a pseudo girl
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>>8471440
>maybe the answer is to try and work your way out of the black and white thinking of your problems all boil down to suicide or becoming a pseudo girl
Tried this for years senpai. No matter how much you work out or try to be normal all you want is to be a girl or die.
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>>8471381
>>8471374
>Just "manning up" doesn't relieve it, it just keeps it at bay.
This. Poltards are just as deluded as the "ultra faggot leftist" that they oppose. No one thinks for themselves on either side, and all I hear from both sides is parroted info, usually misinterpreted or just plain wrong.

The facts are simple. You have a portion of the human poplutation who, for one reason or another, wants to be the opposing gender.

Rightist (wrongfully) interested this phenomenon as something new, and that it must have some form of explainable cause (such as bpa leeching from plastic, somehow feminizing the brain). The solution they propose to these individuals (who undergo tremendous amounts of stress trying to hold on to there sanity) is to accept the way you are born, and get over it.

The leftist on the other hand, take the evidence as a sign that the phenomenon has always existed, and our modern times has led to an increased focus on individualism, therefore causing more closeted transexuals (that have always existed) to seek the change they desire, to lead a more fulfilling life
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>>8471450
I'm batting out of my league trying to tackle this. hehe

obviously "be a girl or die" is more complicated then that, then some sort of psychosis sounding obsession....
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>>8471474
honestly you all sound mentally ill and brainwashed it's really bizzare

i'm not sure we should encourage it
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>>8471486
Why are you here shitposting on /lgbt/? Do you want me to say I'm mentally ill? Well I'm mentally ill there you have it now go back to /pol/.
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>>8471478
Still waiting for that cure, /pol/anon.
Until you can give me logical, sound proven methods of not being trans, you have not a single leg to stand on in any argument.

>>8471474
THIS.
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>>8471508
I used to main /r9k/ but then it became taken over by you people it seems.

I'm just investigating.
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>>8471486
I know I'm mentally ill, but there is no known cure for Gender Dysphoria, and not even any proven treatments. (and pimozide isn't proven, /pol/ - also nofap doesn't make you not trans, been nofap for a year and that shit doesn't do jack.) (Transition also, is lacking in evidence, mind you!)

If you want to bash us for being "weird", then so be it. But at least be honest about what you're doing. You're bashing suffering people with mental illnesses as the supposed "master race".

Get a life! Hitler would shove you right in the gas chamber for whining too much about degeneracy.

>>8471530
I completely understand, and the situation at /r9k/ is fucking retarded, in all honesty. I used to lurk that board, and it's become essentially /tttt2/. That's on the mods, not us.
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>>8471516
i think you like talking to strawmen then real men
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>>8471541
>strawman
What is your argument? Mentally ill people suffer, so I'm going to bash them or think they should kill themselves?

Gosh the logic in /pol/acks is worse than extreme blanchardism.

Not gonna reply to the troll anymore, but hope you had fun /pol/anon.
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>>8471541
>/pol/ giving its usual argument quality

Just ignore it and report it.
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>>8471549
you're not just mentally ill though, you're political, I never once mentioned politics it just came spewing out of you.

so here I am faced with this group of mentally ill people that hate me and are being pandered to by mainstream politics

really gets the noggin joggin

anyway life is so short I can't spend it all arguing with wannabe women when real women are horrid enough
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>>8471560
>anyway life is so short I can't spend it all arguing with wannabe women when real women are horrid enough
Then why are you here?
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>>8471560
Please go back. We don't want rapefugees either.
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>>8471565
like I said, /r9k/ is taken over so, I just figured I'd go to it's newest members home board before total migration.
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>>8471568
with all the crazy fetishes you people are into you probably are, I think they call it being "dom"

what a scary sadio masochistic world I see in you people, oh well, this is what happens when people worship women
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>>8471570
So you're shitposting on my board. Does this mean me going to your board and shit posting is fair game?
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>>8471576
Do you seriously think trans people want people who will chop their head off for being who they are?

Please, troll elsewhere.

I don't worship woman, infact I'd do everything possible NOT to be trans if there was any way to NOT be. And trust me, we've tried everything.
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>>8471570
>>8471577
Wait and /r9k/ is a red board that means I can post gay porn.
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>>8471577
/r9k/ is filled with /tttt/ shitposters, but it doesn't give him the right to come here and /pol/post.


Seriously, that's not our problem. Blame the fact trans people are depressed as fuck and tend to be robots pre-transition.
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>>8471577
as fair as my actions caused by your community you really wouldn't change anything at this point

I really am starting to hate you fags though the more you talk.

oh well, can't be loved by everyone
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>>8471585
>Blame the fact agp people are depressed as fuck and tend to be robots pre-transition.
FTFY
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>>8471592
No problem senpai I'll be sure to make a few extra gay threads on /r9k/ this week
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>>8471592
We're hated by everyone already, anon.
Join the club, we don't care.

Keep on survivin' fellow LGBT posters.
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>>8471600
please don't pull a tranny phantom before you an hero
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>>8471599
AGP, Trans, whichever label you care to use, you get the point. It's very common for robots to be repressing transgender people. Honestly, the /r9k/ trans people just need to head on over to /tttt/ and have a NEETrans thread and stop shitting up /r9k/, so /r9k/ stops shitting up our board.

>>8471600
You're just encouraging board wars by coming over here, in all honesty. I honestly enjoy lurking /r9k/, I don't post however.
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>>8471606
I would only consider doing something like that at a trump rally ;)
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>>8471606
You're still here, anon.
Have you ever wanted to be a girl, anon?
You have so much hate within you..
But all I know is love <3
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>>8471620
calling someone gay as an insult while being gay is a very dark thing
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>>8471633
When did I mention sexuality, anon?
Wanting to be a girl does not make you gay. It makes you trans. If you're a girl that likes girls, then you're gay. If you're a boy that likes boys, then you're gay.

I'm not using it to insult you, anon. I'm asking the question because I care, and are worried that you may be suffering too.
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>>8471661
no, i understand you're suffering, because you're beta males and they always suffer.

liberal men are the most objectively miserable people on the planet.

I think my hate comes from you opting out of the game of masculinity that I'm chained to.

anyway, satiate my curiosity. Are you attracted to women?
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>>8471673
>you're beta males and they always suffer.
>liberal men are the most objectively miserable people on the planet.
>I think my hate comes from you opting out of the game of masculinity that I'm chained to.
this explains why men get so hostile at the idea that women have it better. they can't admit it to themselves because denying it is how they cope.
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>>8471686
you quickly learn who you're allowed to attack and who you're not allowed to.

most of the arguments against alt righters for instance is that they're losers who stay in their mom's basement and things like that, it's all a vanity contest and women decide what's cool and what isn't.
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>>8471673
Well it's complicated, for me. Personally, I'm completely asexual as a guy, but when I imagine myself as a girl, I'm bisexual.

You are correct that beta males always suffer, but they don't *have to suffer*. While they are lower on the social hierarchy, it does not mean they should be stuck to being eternally unhappy.

And I'm not even opting out of the societal game of masculinity, in all honesty. I just have never felt a part of it, and am completely unable to even understand it.

Honestly, based on your views, you seem really chained to society and constantly having to reinforce your masculinity by demeaning others that go outside societal norms is getting to you.

You can still be an alpha male, and disagree with societal norms. Infact, as an alpha, wouldn't you simply not give a fuck about society in the first place? Since you're from /r9k/, I can only assume you struggle with this yourself.

You're correct in that liberal men are objectively the most miserable - However, we cannot change who we are, as it will make us even more miserable than being ourselves, often leading to suicide and other awful things.
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>>8471705
I'm honestly against anyone restricting free speech, anon. Not everyone wants to restrict your right to say what you want - and also, not all transgender people are even liberal. There is many conservative, even alt right /pol/ trans people out there.

It's a matter of identity, and authenticity. Something you obviously lack, and seriously need to consider letting down the social mask of "being alpha" and just simply being yourself.
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Gotta love when /pol/ comes and derails your threads.
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>>8471725
Feels awful, anon.
Especially in a transition or suicide thread.
I'm here for you, anon <3
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>>8471716
I've known gay and bi people irl, I've gotten along with them, I had a strict religious upbringing and was a generally misbehaving person. I'm not a robot but fit in with them due to always feeling like an outsider and those feelings were actually based on reality and so it becomes a repeating cycle or expectation, action or isolation.

What I really am angry about, is the suicide talked about and I think that ties into my early connection to religion, instead of life being tied into some higher power or cause or anything, it's tied into sexuality soley.

But it is all sexual because life is a fabric, an inescapable fabric and that's where we get the social hierarchy, low dominance in men is associated with low serotonin levels for instance, but it's not the serotonin levels that cause it it's the reality that effects it.

I'm sorry if I'm incoherent. The truth is I fight with nazis about gays and with gays about nazis. I just don't like any of it. I have this wound that won't heal and every day I go it festers and rots in me now I'm just a walking corpse.

I don't like what's happening with /r9k/ though, they seem impressionable, and everything is passed off as a fetish nowadays.
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>>8471747
I understand, anon. I'm sorry for what you've been through. I just try to care for all people, regardless of what they are going through.

For me, I have an illness that makes me feel as if I am a girl, and causes fairly extreme dysphoria.

I understand being angry about suicide, I'm angry about it too. But not for the same reasons. I'm angry that there is no help, no care for these people. So many deaths could be avoided if we simply came together, and worked together to better the lives of everyone rather than be divided by politics, or religion, or whatever.

I understand fitting in with /r9k/. I lurk there sometimes for comfort reasons (I don't post, as I don't want to shit up your board.)

I'm aware life as a whole is simply suffering, where natural hierarchy rules supreme. There will always be alphas, betas, and those who suffer. But compassion and care can do a great deal for those in pain.

You're not incoherent. It's okay to feel the way you do, anon. I have the same wound, myself in actuality. I know the situation in /r9k/ is bad, and I hope the mods can do something.
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>>8471790
you probably would make a good woman in some ways
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>>8471843
Thanks, anon. Woman or man, we can do our best to help. In the end, whether you're male or female, left or right, we simply want a better world, for ourselves, for those we care about, and people as a whole. The only things that differ are the means.
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>>8471856
At least your banal talking points can be a hedge against any real substance in your life while you try to score bbc on craigslist you putrid tranny succubus.

I see you for what you are.
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>>8471899
And that's okay - See me as you will, anon.
I'm not the type to slut it up, actually. I'm not really interested in that, to be quite honest.

I just want to fix my gender identity, and get on with life.

But whatever you see in others, reflects your views on yourself and the world around you, anon.
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>>8471910
50% of Americans die broke, you have endless people to abuse with your bullshit when I think about it. All these low dominance males with guilt complexes you manipulate into accepting your degeneracy. It's truly sick and contemptible.

Another demon haunting this modern landscape, I had to see it for myself, like Odysseus and the sirens.

anyway, I have more pertinent matters to attend to.

oh one last request, I need a song, please give me a song.
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>>8471961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VJBBUqr1wM

Here's a song, anon. Best wishes to you.
Believe what you wish, it does not bother me.
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>>8471980
you're such a godamn normie I have a feeling all the new trans craze is really just from pop culture being so centered around women.
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