>At long last, accept being trans >In utter hon territory

>>8464244
>and would transition if you could do so convincingly?
It's never guaranteed. At some degree of caution this question must be asked by people of any age and regardless of looks.

>>8464244
>if you accept that you're (probably) a woman
You're not a woman until you transition.

>>8464255
Sure, but I know there's 0% I'll pass.

>>8464271
OK

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>>8464244
>How do you repress

Just focus on how manly you look and how you will never pass.
And remind yourself that women prefer manly men to manly women.
If you're HSTS then take steroids and lift weights instead of taking E. Become the man that you wish was fucking you, and fuck dudes that look like you wish you could.
I know it sounds strange but it worked for me.
I just imagine that I'm the femboy that I'm fucking and I'm the bara dude that I always wanted to dominate me.
Also, T is a helluva drug.
Being horny all the time and having every femboy for miles around getting a leaking boner whenever they smell me is a big power trip.

>>8464324
>Just focus on how manly you look and how you will never pass.
That just makes me sad.

>And remind yourself that women prefer manly men to manly women.
>If you're HSTS then take steroids and lift weights instead of taking E. Become the man that you wish was fucking you, and fuck dudes that look like you wish you could.
I don't think I could ever be with anyone as I am. I'm 27 and a virgin. I never initiated anything and turned down every person who came on to me over the years.

>>8464244
How old are you? I'm starting at 24 in hopes I have a chance.

>>8464357
27, but honestly genetics are as big of a factor as anything. Some people transitioned later than you and did well. Fuck, Sertii turned from beta Notch to a qt in 6 months.

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>>8464244
Un-trancing myslef by hanging on to all the memories when I felt normal as a man and dismissing anything that points to me being trans. Finding anything that makes me feel good and takes my mind of the perpetual sadness and hopelessness. Dont dwell on the bad feelings.
It's all porn-induced fetishism anyway,

>>8464368
betas with non-manly faces have better chances, normal test guys grow fast and develop manly features too early, handsome man has no chances while ugly one with no chin could become passable

>>8464580
>It's all porn-induced fetishism

AGPs actually believe this

>>8464599
Sertii looked like Notch m8 her transition is nothing less than a miracle and irrefutable proof of divine favor

>>8464354
>I don't think I could ever be with anyone as I am. I'm 27 and a virgin. I never initiated anything and turned down every person who came on to me over the years
Holy shit anon are you me I'm 27 and a virgin. I did the exact same thing I haven't really done relationships because I wanted to be with someone once I transitioned. I transitioned when 26 so I'm more or less a guy with boobs like you I was in like hon more twink hon territory but I will never pass even with ffs I think :( it sucks feeling this lonely

>>8464642
I saw the timeline, losing weight is not divine favor, she was never manly in the first place

>>8464631
wish I was true-trans - I would've transitioned 15 years ago

>>8464651
post tits or gtfo

>>8464674
>wish I was true-trans
Congrats: the typology is a lie. Go. Go and be free.

>>8464244
When I was repressing I would literally go to Susan's or r/transpassing, look at the hons and resolve not to end up like that

In my experience though, if you're genuine trans with dysphoria and the whole nine yards, breaking down at some point is pretty inevitable

>>8464693
Yea that's not gonna happen but you made me laugh

>>8464244

how you feel doesn't have to relate to how you look.

most women aren't beautiful. most arent even that pretty, even with make up. we just focus on the pretty ones. the reality is that no one looks the way they want to look. im a tiny ass twink ill never be a big burly lumberjack. it sucks but thats life.

that being said it doesn't really matter. so you see your self as a woman. does that really mean you need a vagina? it wont be a real vagina anyways so whats the point? why do you need boobs? why do you need to wear a dress? most people arent dressing the way they wnat to dress because of money / style / body types any way.

the point im trying to make isj ust because you are trans doesn't mean you have to transition in any way. look at chris fucking crocker, hes now full dude even though hes clearly a woman. he is doing what is going to look best on him and continuing to be who he is personality wise despite it.

im doing what looks best for a twink eve nthough i feel like ab ig strong manly man inside.

>>8464708
what does it matter? I didn't want to be a girl when i was a teen and now its too late

>>8464744
>I didn't want to be a girl when i was a teen
When did your crossgender fantasies start?

>>8464735
>chris fucking crocker
damn, cute af, is he just gay or trans? why didnt he transition then

>>8464785
dunno, if I had anything early on it was rare

>>8464807
But they still started in your teens probably?

>>8464807
>why didnt he transition then
because his bf wanted him to be a man.
and his bf is rich af.

>>8464857
I dont remember, I had bondage fetish when I was 5 that I can tell you for sure and was auto-sexual

>>8464916
no one is going to believe you when you pretend you had sexual fetishes as a toddler you retard

there is no way you even remember being 5

pls stfu

>>8464916
Autosexual as in you it was arousing just thinking of yourself and being tied up?

>>8464923
I believe her.

>>8464923
This is not unheard of..

>>8464923
thanks for a good laugh, all you said is hilarious
sorry you had delayed development

>>8464938
I played with myself too and indulged in self bondage, didn't know how to masturbate back then
I wold get turned on from my own body rubbing myself or in she shower
had lots of 'soft' bdsm fantasies like tying up and kidnapping.
would've' liked to tie other kids but that wasn't allowed and I was punished for doing anything like that

and no, I have no freaking idea why I developed this fetish this early

oh and I got a hold of de Sade before I even knew how to fap and I guess I could totally self insert as Justine... fml

>>8465028
Inserting as Justine shows how early your agp developed too. What age was that?

How connected were the bondage fantasies to your agp?

>>8465058
or maybe I just had sick imagination? I was too impressionable
Im not sure exactly 9 or 10 maybe

>How connected were the bondage fantasies to your agp?
I dont know
the only vivid agp moment I had was when I saw a stripper in some bmovie and later on imagined I was her

I guess if I saw any women in captivity or tied up in movies I could self insert/imagine myself as either them or their kidnappers, it was equally hot to me
I had normal gender development, identified and acted 100% as a boy

when I discovered porn I just fapped to the hot girls pics
.

op is such a faggot. once u learn u need meds to function normal, and u choose to deny treatment because of social reprocussion, youre a loser. plain and simple. stop pulling down others into your crab bucket.

theres nothing wrong with medication side effects. choosing to skip medicine that will improve quality of life is considered a mental illness. find a better doctor. allah akbar
>>8464324
lol ur gay ur not tranz
>liking men before hrt
g a y
a h o m o s e x u a l
y
>>8464580
drug addict. bet ur depressed as fuck. start hrt.
>>8464735
materialistic faggot. bet u carry a mirror and comb in ur car.
>>8464923
i rember in utero

>>8465150
Did the bondage fantasies feel similar to the agp ones in things like submissiveness or focus/mood? Would you picture yourself tied up the same way you'd picture yourself as a girl?

Do you imagine the two together not, being a girl and being tied up? Do you separate them?

>I had normal gender development, identified and acted 100% as a boy
Normal for agps.

>when I discovered porn I just fapped to the hot girls pics
Imagining you were them?

>>8464708
>>8464674
Agp is trutrans

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>>8465263
No I dont think so. AGP was more romantic, like love and longing.
Of course later on I had them both separately and together in all variations possible.

>Normal for agps.
hey I was told earlier on that typology is a lie?

>Imagining you were them?
at first no, later on sometimes

Are you doing research or just having fun? Should I kms already since I will never be the girl of my dreams?

>>8465346
Why didn't you tell me that a decade ago?

>>8465364
Because a decade ago I had no idea what agp or trans was

>>8465364
>AGP was more romantic, like love and longing.
Can you describe that further?

>hey I was told earlier on that typology is a lie?
Well let's just say that for it lie it's awfully accurate. Keep track of /agpg/ threads to hear from lots of other agps.

>Are you doing research or just having fun? Should I kms already since I will never be the girl of my dreams?
I want to understand agp. Try to find ways to cope with not becoming her and learn about your options regarding transition.

>>8465440
I don't know. Describe love? The longing, the lightheaded euphoria, the tingles.
It's not just hot arousal you get from watching porn, or seeing or experiencing something/someone that turns you on.

I've read the threads and some articles and summaries on AGP, I can relate to many things. And Im sure I have to some degree feminized brain and may psychological traits that are more common for women.

>>8465440
>your options regarding transition.
Too old and no savings to throw my life away and go to some lgbt paradise and transition into a happy hon either. Im bad.

>>8465534
The similarity to love in agp is very interesting.

>psychological traits that are more common for women.
What are they?

>Too old and no savings to throw my life away
Your options aren't simply transition or repress/kys. You can try some HRT without social transition, you can find opportunities to crossdress, you can find an understanding boyfriend or girlfriend, all sorts.

>belittles a dangerous mental illness but demands respect for his precious gender feefees in the same sentence

Just kill yourself, you already admitted you'll never pass anyway.

>>8464324
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>>8465177
>You're a faggot and a loser
rude

>>8465440
>Well let's just say that for it lie it's awfully accurate. Keep track of /agpg/ threads to hear from lots of other agps.
AGP existing as a fetish doesn't make the typology real..

>>8465954
>The similarity to love in agp is very interesting.

oh and the burning jealousy of women, god its unbearable

>>8467869
It's the jealousy of someone knowing they'll never have their true love.

>>8466567
that's meta-attraction target location inversion, not metacis. fucking newfag

>>8464244
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>>8464244
Keep repressing, anon. I know you can do it!

Visit repression general.

>>8464324
This seems like great advice for AGPs, especially masc ones, but why would an HSTS want to be a masc top? Wouldnt they be better off as a tranny?

>>8464599
I was pretty beta when young, but after a couple decades of T exposure I look quite masc. I do have a short chin, but it juts out a bit and is broader now. I also have a heavy browridge.