How do you figure out if you're a tranny other than just

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen

>B-but society is always holding trannies back!

If you aren't trying to be a woman of every second of everyday, you're probably not trans

>>8462443
If I were you I'd stop worrying about whether you're trans and start questioning whether the effects of HRT are what you want. It makes things easier.
If you want those effects then do that. Then start looking at surgeries, do you want those surgeries? Go do that.

Basically just look at what occurs at various stages of the process and decide if you want that. Don't worry about whether or not you're trans. Realistically if you're okay with any step of the process, even if you're not okay with certain surgeries, there's a decent chance you're trans.

>>8462443
Transsexualism (F64.0) has three criteria:

The desire to live and be accepted as a member of the opposite sex, usually accompanied by the wish to make his or her body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatmentThe transsexual identity has been present persistently for at least two yearsThe disorder is not a symptom of another mental disorder or a chromosomal abnormality

>>8462455
>Joining the military during the 40's
>trying to be a woman every second of every day

Nice try hsts

>>8462455
To be fair, the reason could very well be that I'm 18 and so the euphoria isn't as bad as it would be later in life because my appearance isn't as bad as it could be later in life

>>8462455
Oh my god, who cares about people treating you like total garbage and thinking you're an insane degenerate when you go out in your high heels and pink dress passing 0%. You gotta be a real gurl erryday, you tell'em hun.

xoxoxo trixie.

>>8462679
>degenerate
Thank god I never talk to anyone who believes such silly nonsense.

>>8462443
You know how you've always wished to be a girl and have to imagine being one to get off?

That's not going to go away and it's exactly what Jenner felt.

>>8462695
Well I don't imagine myself in sexual situations to get off, I would be hsts not agp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>8462707
Who are you attracted to? When did you first start wanting to be a girl? How feminine were you as a child? What crossdressing have you done?

>>8462707
If you're hsts, you're agp, because cis women are agp, therefore hsts as a requirement of being women are also agp.

>>8462710
When was the last time a cis woman got off to thinking of how sexy she was in a swimsuit?

>>8462443
a) you're trans

b) Theres a lot of common signs that aren't "I always knew." For example:

>didn't mind being a guy. But always thought that being a girl would be better
>Was just generally unhappy, tried something like crossdressing. Suddenly felt like a void was filled.
>Started threads on the internet asking "how do I know if I'm a tranny?"
>and so on

c) you're trans

>>8462719
Some do. A fetish is not determinant of gender. The internal imagery is though.

>>8462723
>Some do.
Where?!

>>8462709
>Who are you attracted to?
Guys, especially jock types
>When did you first start wanting to be a girl?
I'm not really sure, I at least started considering being trans 4 years ago (when I was 14)
>How feminine were you as a child?
Pretty feminine I would say, I listened to Britney spears and only played with dolls at 2, used to have my hair long in an extra faggy justin bieber style, ect
>What crossdressing have you done?
Full makeup, dress (for halloween) enjoyed the compliments I got "wow you're pretty anon"

>>8462728
Uh have you even spent a single second in the real world?
Here you go, easiest agp example for cis women ever, also cause you're probs a repressed transbian, you're welcome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqom-uT9K7I

Most girls are agp, most trans should be agp. I'd even argue nearly every single female is agp if you loosened the definition which isn't all that defined.

>>8462722
Transtrenders get out

>>8462744
She's not masturbating. When I said get off I meant literally.

Where's the cis woman masturbating to dressing up in sexy female clothes?

Seriously, just give me one single example.

Also that example was obviously a cis woman dressing up for the social status and male boners she'd get, not getting off to herself, so I don't have high hopes for an actual example.

>>8462709
not her but im wondering if i fit the hsts

>Attracted to men. Bigger than me :3
>Never really "wanted' to be a girl, I just felt kinda weird and ugly all the time and I also got really hurt when my brother told me I was gay when I wanted a baby doll when i was like 5.
>Started growing my hair out when I was 9 and when I was very little I had naturally long flowy locks.
>My crossdressing is/was limited to normal girl clothes and this one maid outfit my friends coerced me into buying.

>>8462710
Okay well I mean I like the idea of showing off for a guy? But not like in a manly way

>>8462768
congrats youre like every woman out there

>>8462766
I don't know how to prove she's getting off on it though. There's a lot of swimsuit porn out there but I'm not a mind reader

>>8462767
Am op, this is basically me desu

>>8462776
Right, you can't find one single example. I didn't think you would.

Let there's countless examples of agp males/mtfs masturbating to exactly that.

I wonder why the big difference, if women are agp too!

>>8462790
Okay what about yaoi or erotica involving swimsuits? It's female made and i can give you examples

>>8462803
Yaoi is AAP and demonstrates the opposite of the point you're trying to prove.

But erotics, let's see the examples? It will depend on if the fact of being a sexy girl wearing a sexy swimsuit is intended to get the female reader off, rather than just part of a fantasy about a guy or something like that.

>>8462740
Imagine having a relationship with a girl, what if anything would you like about it?

Do you like sexy photos/art of girls, guys or both?

What do you think about to masturbate? What porn do you watch, erotica do you read, etc?

At school would you be friends with girls or boys? How well did you fit in and what were your favorite parts?

There was no crossdressing in private, just the halloween?

>>8462767
When would you crossdress? In private, with friends, etc?

What are your answers to the above questions (except the halloween one)?

>>8462812
Yaoi is hardly aap. The bottom is always super fem and is a de facto facto girl.
I'd need too much time to search asstr. I've seen swimsuit fetish stuff there. Cajt remember the POV though

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Ya just gotta WHITE your way through

>>8462815
>Imagine having a relationship with a girl, what if anything would you like about it?
probably nothing i mean wed basically just be really really good friends
>Do you like sexy photos/art of girls, guys or both?
i like looking at guys and them being all strong and powerful and stuff its really hot desu. i appreciate girls looking hot too but i look at it as competition
>What do you think about to masturbate? What porn do you watch, erotica do you read, etc?
i barely watch porn if ever and if i do, its straight porn with me imagining myself as the girl. mostly i just imagine myself being fucked and choked
>At school would you be friends with girls or boys? How well did you fit in and what were your favorite parts?
id be a girl with the other girls in elementary school before puberty. that changed ofc and i was left alone :(
>When would you crossdress? In private, with friends, etc?
maid outfit id just test out every now and then and with normal girl clothes id just wear em out

>>8462815
>Imagine having a relationship with a girl, what if anything would you like about it?

Nothing, I'm not sexually into the female body and also hate being the stronger partner, as other anon said I want a guy bigger than me

>Do you like sexy photos/art of girls, guys or both?
Guys
>What do you think about to masturbate?

Well the thought of being dominated is nice, I'm more naturally submissive

What porn do you watch, erotica do you read, etc?

Gay porn really, guys with big dicks

>At school would you be friends with girls or boys?

Girls near exclusively

>How well did you fit in and what were your favorite parts?

I didn't, I liked learning but always felt like a massive spider farmer weirdo and was really quiet in class

>There was no crossdressing in private, just the halloween?

I've done makeup in private but I don't own any girls clothes :/

>>8462873
Also sorry about short responses and typos, im typing in between Mario kart rounds

>>8462836
>>8462873
Wow, you both sound HSTS in pretty much everything.

What ages did you start to think about transition? What age are you now?

>>8462890
well desu im already transitioning. started hormones at 18 and when i was about 16-17 id think to myself "once i move into the city im definitely going to a trans clinic and get hrt" but ofc i had to start self medding because itd take too long. im 19 right now

though when i was 16 i definitively made up my mind regarding transition when i was told i'd be stuck at 5'2 forever.

its really complicated for me honestly i think like my mind is all over the place. when i was around 11 or so i was definitely gendered as a girl all the time and i had this urge to not come off as female because i didnt want to be bullied or anything.

>>8462890
I started thinking about it when I was 14, now 18. I've went back and forth on this a few times, the closest I got was coming out to everyone, including my psychiatrist who told me to wait until next visit to do anything, which then gave me the time to panic from anxiety and basically re-neg

>>8462815
>Imagine having a relationship with a girl, what if anything would you like about it?
having someone to hug and love me
>Do you like sexy photos/art of girls, guys or both?
I don't like either. But I have some background images of girl I'd like to look like
>What do you think about to masturbate? What porn do you watch, erotica do you read, etc?
This 28 yo strong guy with his nicely trimmed beard sexing me
>At school would you be friends with girls or boys? How well did you fit in and what were your favorite parts?
I was friends with both equal but the boys were more not really masculine betas
>There was no crossdressing in private, just the halloween?
I never crossdressed because one guy at school was really homophobic which made me "decide" to be straight and not a fag (when I was young I thought being gays means being a man who would be better off being born a woman)
>When would you crossdress? In private, with friends, etc?
shortly before I saw my therapist when I broke my repression

Well... For me it got to a point where it was either transition or die... That was a pretty good indicator.

>>8462913
>I don't like either. But I have some background images of girl I'd like to look like
Not liking either is odd but the background images scream AGP.

>>8462923
my mom has pictures of other women hanging around too
some people get inspired that way

>>8462963
Ignore blanchard posters, they're anti-fact.

>>8462963
Hm.

When did you first start wanting to be a girl? How feminine were you as a child? What crossdressing would you have wanted to do? How attractive do you find women to be?

When you think about the guy you like sexing you, what's he doing?

>>8462988
>When did you first start wanting to be a girl?
The first time I could put it into words was when I was 10 or 11
> How feminine were you as a child?
I don't know. I was feminine enough to make my first boyfriend treat me more like a girl.
> What crossdressing would you have wanted to do?
Nothing special, just dressing feminine
> How attractive do you find women to be?
Not that attractive. I feel more jealousy than attraction.
>When you think about the guy you like sexing you, what's he doing?
He makes me blow him or we have kinda penetrative sex where he forces me down or chockes me and after that he holds me

If you would push a button that would permanently change your sex you are trans.

>>8463043
Being trans isn't the same as being a CIS girl for most though.

>>8463041
>I was feminine enough to make my first boyfriend treat me more like a girl.
What age was that?

Had adults considered you feminine before puberty?

>Nothing special, just dressing feminine
Like dresses or just female jeans and t-shirts? Would you have done that at home by yourself or what?

>I feel more jealousy than attraction.
Describe the attraction?

>or we have kinda penetrative sex
Would that be anal or do you imagine it being vaginal or what?

>>8463059
That's irrelevant
Taking someone in Nigeria with zero access to hormones and hence no chance of ever not looking like a man, that person can still be trans. Your passability or ability to meet your standards has nothing to do with being trans.

>>8463059
It doesn't matter. Nobody wants to be a tranny. Trannies don't want to be trannies. Trannies want to be cis of the opposite gender.

>>8463059
To transition or not is the nightmare dilemma facing trans people.

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>>8462443
>How do you figure out if you're a tranny
Super simple desu.
Does this make u envious? If so then ur trans harry

>>8463118
how do i tell the difference between envy and straight male attraction?

>>8463143
STRAIGHT MALE ATTRACTION:

"I wanna stick my dick in that"

AUTOGYNEPHILIA (implying I'm calling a spade anything but a spade):

"I wanna be that while a man is sticking a dick in me."

>>8463143
If you could choose to fuck her or be her which would you choose?

>>8463143
>how do i tell the difference between envy and straight male attraction?
Thats like so fucking easy moron. Straight male attraction is "hot damn hubba hubba" and envy is "Its not fair she gets to have boobs and I don't, I'm so fucking mad and sad kill me please!"

>>8463150
i get the second one for sure
how do i tell if i have the first one too or if its just me confusing myself?

>>8463152
definitely be her

>>8463158
i think its both
i think how hot she is just like a straight male as well as wishing i was her

>>8463170
>i think its both
>i think how hot she is just like a straight male as well as wishing i was her
Jesus fucking christ then if she makes u horny in any way ur just a creepy guy.

>>8463176
but im envious and trans by both your other posts

>>8462747
transtrenders aren't real

>>8463170
Well then we have safely ruled out being a straight man. You're trans.

>>8463297
i guess
kayla said im not >>8463176

>>8462443
The only way to genuinely know is to transition, pass as cis and see how you feel

The best way to figure out if it's worth it is to experiment as much as possible and see how you feel

If you're really worried try digging up various stories of people who detransitioned cause they prefer to be their birth sex rather than passing/social stuff and see if you identify with what they say


Also this but not really >>8462461
Rather than thinking "am I trans or not", "do i want the body or not" it's best to think if transition is right for you or not cause that's all it boils down to
You can be trans and not transition but helpfulness of transition is the main practical difference really

>>8463274
Yeah they are. I'm one of the more inclusive people on this board, but transtrenders are totally real.

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>>8463628
Yasss queen you don't need to TRANSITION or eat hormones in order to feel comfortable in your body becus oohhhhhh muh body positivity uwu

u don't need no dysphoria lol it a spook
i am uh gender studies expert X3

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>>8462443
See >>8462455
Also transsexuals are BORN TRANS
Our brain develops that way in the womb
You don't become trans.
Fuck off transtrenders.

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>>8463679
You saying the genders are intrinsically different?That sounds pretty misogynistic.

>>8463150
What about feeling an entire range of feelings that encompass more than what is being offered as possible reactions? Like... I don't want to stick my dick in anything. I also think that she's pretty and attractive and would enjoy making out with a person like that. Men or women, it really doesn't matter. Yes, jealousy, but also... I don't really want to look exactly like a cis woman. I don't think being attractive like that defines transness; I don't need to be hot to be passing. Envy seems like this super shallow thing that trans people in their endless fount of GID insanity just draw from so much, feeling inadequate all the time. Maybe I'm retarded, but I'm just me... male or female I'm still me. My past is still me, and people can deny they were born male and be crazy about it, but it's just life. If you can't accept reality maybe you shouldn't live in it.

>>8463647
if i read uwu again im gonna go on a shooting spree at the anime club death to homosexual weaboos

>>8462980
>Ignore blanchard posters, they're anti-fact.
They like interrogating people so they can pigeonhole them.

>>8463647
Lol yeah, this shit. If we let anyone be "trans" the word loses meaning and we can't fight for our rights.

>>8463679
THIS

>>8463723
.........uwu

>>8463749
It's sissification fetishists misappropriating psychology to encourage depressed twinks to become girls for them online.

You people forget there are in fact predators on 4chan. They can be manipulative enough, sadistic enough, and woeful enough in outlook to encourage these feelings in other people. They get off to it! The mere thought alone of fulfilling their TG stories IRL, even 2000mi away gets them rock hard.

I think hormones should always be a personal choice, but there are many in the fetish community who have no qualms about forcing them onto others. Those same fetishists tend to browse 4chan. I'm not saying don't if you feel you're a girl inside, but use your head people! Just because the board told you something doesn't make it true.

>>8463336
Kayla is fucking retarded
Never listen to tripfags

You're trans

>>8463798
I like identifying whether people are AGP or HSTS but I don't tell them to transition either way.

>>8463624
Detransitioner stories are kinda terrifying

>>8462873
interesting I dont like gay porn cause I cant self-insert, maybe only as twinks
I want to have a bf and love dick and fantasize about being with men but gay porn doesnt do it for me

>>8463624
Ive read some and even talked to them, some did it cause they couldn't pass, could never be women and felt worse so they've decided to detrans,
others had more like identity crisis and didnt feel right despite socially passing (from their words) and felt they made a mistake, they realized they wanted to be male again

some of them transitioned back again

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is this >>8463043 real cos I've felt this way my whole life.. should I just go on hormones now at 24 or just repress this feeling till I die. never seriously thought about this tranny thing tbqh just thought I was a bit of a bender

>>8464060
mtftmtf?

>>8464155
yeah, some even did feminizing surgeries then un-did them

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>>8464132