I'm starting HRT at age 24. I'll probably end up being

No, absolutely noone started in their 20's and turned out fine
Just kill yourself

>>8448564
I think about it daily, but what's the point in killing yourself before you've tried?

>>8448500
I started at 22 and I pass 8 months later.

>>8448581
She actually looks pretty and yeah it's 4chan I get told to kill myself a lot I'm used to it.

>>8448583
Well that's good hopefully I can too.

>>8448581
I was being sarcastic because OP is retarded. Why wouldn't people turn out fine in their 20's? Anyone can pass to cis people with HRT if they're short and don't have a fuckhuge face and body. You don't even need to be in female ranges, just be an average male

Stop falling for TERF memes. Most trannies before the modern era didnt start HRT until their 30s. You're lucky if you realize it in young adulthood as opposed to, you know, age 54.

>>8448628
This site makes it seem like if you don't start in your teens you might as well kill yourself.

>>8448638
Yes, because 4chan is filled with edgy culture warriors who spread FUD about every subject. When its with trannies, their end goal is for you to kill yourself.

They think they're "changing le world!!!!11" by shitposting really hard but in reality they just out themselves as sad embarrassments who rely on obsessive behaviors to avoid the crippling questions they have about their own lives. You can call them autistic, but honestly, it's demeaning to actual spergs.

>>8448581
>https://imgur.com/a/WcFxQ
the trick is be good looking to begin with
fuck this gene lottery...

>>8448500

Started at 24, now at 26 I'm pretty much leading a cis girl's life. Only a few of my friends IRL now I'm trans, but even they can't see me as anything but a woman. I don't think I've gotten clocked as trans more than 3-4 times in my life, and only in my first year. So yeah, it can totally happen.

>>8448564
>t. hon

>>8448758
Fuck I'm jelly

>>8448758
I'm never going to be able to read things like this without feeling sad about what my life could have been and how I might be now if things had been different.

>>8448758
Wow that's sounds amazing and thanks for posting and letting me know it's possible.

>>8448788

Turn that jealousy into motivation. When I started, I was filled with jealousy for other girls (both cis and trans who passed) and resentment for having "missed my chance to be a girl," and I also had fell for the "you can't pass after 20" meme by then.

I transitioned anyway cuz my other option was offing myself. From then on, I worked on my transition almost obsessively, learning to walk, speak, dress, and behave in every aspect, while also working out at least once a week. But that was the responsibility I chose to take when I decided to become a girl.

>>8448820

No problem, you rarely see hopeful threads here, and I wanted to add to that. This can be a very gloomy place, with everyone projecting their hopelessness and misery into each other. It frustrates me as a infrequent lurker, cuz I know for a fact that this can be so much better than that, but people in a better place rarely come here to post about their experiences.

>>8448628
>tfw not short
Can I kms then?

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>>8448628
>tfw above average male

>>8448898
No, but since you stand out more there's stricter requirements for everything else

>>8448906
Right but I can say I don't meet those so do I have permission to an hero?

>>8449547
I dunno, anon
There might be better surgeries in the future

>>8449547
No no an heroing in my thread. You matter and I don't want you to kill yourself at least try to transition and try to do everything you can do to be happy before thinking about becoming an hero.

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>>8449581

So you would have me suffer on the off chance that maybe in several decades they can magically shrink my skeleton?

>>8449587
Maybe you can be happy anon. You should at least try everything you can to be happy before considering ending your life. You only get one life and maybe you can still be happy.

>>8449587
I'm OP and maybe I'm better off than you maybe I'm not, but I'm 24 and I'm going to try to be happy. I'm going to give transitioning my all so maybe I can finally be happy.

>>8449581
What a kind OP

>>8449610
I started at 24 as well, I'm 26 now and don't pass. If I get ffs and still don't pass I don't see any possibility of continuing
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>>8449647
That sucks anon what about your face doesn't pass? Who are you going to for ffs?

>>8448581
That's 100% going to be a hon in 15 years.

I started at 25 and after 3 years of hormones and losing weight I started failing boymode. Now I am regularly getting "miss" and "ma'am" until I open my mouth.

Even coworkers who have known me for a long time will slip up, accidentally referring to me as "Ms. [lastname]" and then quickly correcting themselves and apologizing. It keeps happening too.

I didn't even consider it a remote possibility that I would pass ever, so I am now like 3.5 years in and working on my voice, makeup skills, acquiring clothes and all that when I should have been doing it the whole time. Oh well better late than never.

Kind of sucks getting tranny hate IRL while trying to coast by in boymode but even having been able to come this far is good.

If you wind up never passing, trust me, it's better on the hormones and not passing than it is not being on them at all. Just take care of yourself and get/remain in good health and good shape, to maximize your chances. Also, work on voice and makeup and hair and all that shit from the start so that if you do wind up passing, you don't have to go through a mega-awkward stage like what I'm in now.

>>8449742
Alright anon thanks for the advice and your story.

>>8449587
You could just try out experimental shit like relaxin to grow hips, start with injections so your HRT is 100% efficient, start progesterone, corset train to reduce your ribcage and waist, and get some sort of collarbone surgery to reduce shoulder width.
Shit might be risky, but it's better than killing yourself.
Lower body is easier to fix, since you don't need to reduce anything, just make it bigger. HRT actually do a lot more than /lgbt/ thinks, since /lgbt/ is mostly young people starting out.
The skeleton isn't as hard and permanent as people here might think, it changes subtly over time and even becomes shorter and smaller based on hormones in certain places. Most people will in fact lose shoulder width after many years on HRT, since the difference between male and female shoulders are caused a lot more by muscle than the actual bone itself.
Shit probably isn't as bad as you imagine it is, there's probably tons of people out there who thought they'd turn out as hons but turned out just fine.

>>8448500
I started hormones at 22/23 and I came out the other side passing. There's still hope. It depends on what your starting with.

>>8449687
Brow, forehead slope, hairline shape, nose, and chin are the worst features. I'm consulting with facial team and frankly I've never seen anyone I like better so it's probably them

>>8449783
I'm taking relaxin, it's not going to be enough no matter. It's not like I'm even line backer tier it's just too many male features here and there even if none themselves are critical failures. I want to make a custom corset sometimes too, I should. How can you get shoulder shrinking surgery?? Where

>>8448500

I started at 23 and pass pretty well 9 months in. I straight up told a guy to pretend I was a boy today and he said he couldn't. I even have to tell other queer people that I'm trans.

>>8448628
>tfw 6'1 and 17.7" shoulders
I want to FUCKING DIE NOW

>>8448500
Plenty of people start in their 20's and turn out fine, it's mostly up to luck though

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holy shit you nigger are you going to really reply to each person in this thread individually? just fucking do it all in one post you dumb nigger stop

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lol i called the trannies ogly again x-D

upvoate me!

>>8448756
>the trick is be good looking to begin with
welcome to the real world

>>8451427
this nigger really is looking through the thread replying to people he wants to individually

>>8451427
>he thinks I don't live in a multiculti liberal shithole and clock trannies on an hourly basis when I'm out and about

Keep trying to convince people to delay trans so they'll kill themselves in the future, though. It's what you want in your grand scheme kek worshiper.

>>8451435
holy shit you really are replying to people individually as you scroll through the thread that's nuts well anyways

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all shit tier bait but i gave you a few (You)'s can you bash your fucking head into a wall until you die now?

>>8451438
Nothing is sadder than the emotional cry of the non-passing hon. It's like a desperate wail of wanting to belong. Hence why she's on here trying to delay other people's transition. She wants other people to share in her fate.

>>8451442
kid did it in another thread the same way too he literally replied to each post individually i'll probably report him honestly

>masc repressor trying to convince herself than no trannies pass regardless of age so she doesn't have to admit ruining her life was her own fault.
Kinda sad.

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All bait posts please don't respond seriously.

>>8451447
No Its not sad because I am right. Also passing is gradient. Some people pass much better than others in more situations but no one really looks cis in person.
Show me someone who passes.

The only way to pass is to hit genetic lotery which means being born with small and proportionally androgynous body and more important a SKULL that is within female dimensional range in all major parameters. Its incredibly rare. Sure if your definition of passing is being able to trick randos on the street than I guess lots of people "pass"

>>8451461
i don't take advice on playing the odds from someone who can't even spell lottery right. Brazilfag?

>>8451447
Also I wasn't all that masc. I received many compliments on this very board.

>>8451461
reported and move on you can't just come into threads reply to everyone individually and say everyone doesn't pass and expect people not to think you're baiting come on now i may be a faggot i'm not new to 4chan step up your bait posts nigger

>>8451460
>someone said something that made me uncomfortable
>quick throw up mental walls to protect my current narrative that I'm emotionally invested in

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>>8451467
>samefag/shit up multiple threads and make it obvious from your atrocious lack of proper grammar
>whine when people react

Just adopt a trip so we can filter you proper, you couldn't convince a wet paper bag to dry.

>>8451442
I find responses like yours to be the most sad. You actually think I want to "delay" people as if I care about whether they do it or not. I am offering my unique perspective from my life. It makes you uncomfortable. Get over it.

I wasn't a hon lol

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>I don't care, I just spam the same message over and over again through multiple threads and many paragraphs
>b-but pay no mind to my shitposting! I have no stake in this whatsoever!!!!

Okay, I will then, opinions disregarded.

You guys are so ignorant lol. You don't even know if your heads are within female range for anything. Literally living off of hopes and dreams but nothing else that is real.

I even had my skull measured dimensionally to confirm what I am telling you all.

>>8451483
It's not shitposting you fucking nigger. It's fucking knowledge

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>>8451485
>I paid men to tell me I failed as a tranny

LOL stay salty with those bitter tears genetic failure

>>8451488
>resorts to calling people "fucking nigger" whenever they disagree
>pretends he's not a /pol/ pretending to be a tranny

How many lvls are you on kek worshiper lel?

>>8451491
No. I paid a PHD anthropologist in London with a large sample data base of human skull measurements to measure CT scan of mine and compare it

>>8451494
Well I do have some polish believes. And ya I don't care about saying nigger. I will say it if I want

>>8451495
>I spent wayyyyy too much money for something that's basically just psychological self-assurance
>and I fucked up at that too

Are you just prone to making shitty decisions with your life?

Is this why you're a tranny?

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>polish

Oh, you were just born special.

Keep fixing my pipes when they go wrong, "Miss".

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idk im a turbohon and still pass to cis without makeup sometimes
if I ever ask someone like a queer person at work i frame it as id like to know if they could tell because i want to self improve and they still say no. this includes someone i interacted with dozens of times

regardless if i pass as a woman its as a huge dumpy big shoulder woman with a mannish jaw and brow so i dont get hit on much, but i have been hit on

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>>8448758

Pretty much same as me except I'm 25, only the people who knew me before know I'm trans and I keep it that way.

Jesus Christ what the fuck happened in here

>>8451583
You guys should all post pics to show us how good you pass. After all we would never know right? Girls post pics online all the time

>>8451497
It was only $1000 bucks and it was a great decision. It showed me exactly what was causing me to look male in my face. I was able to pinpoint exactly the why and the how. It allowed to let me give up transition in peace

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>tfw 18 (-2) right now but ugly manface and 5'9

Im thinking about joining the military, I might die in combat and thats a fucking plus.

>>8453121
Do it. Better then slaving in a factory

>>8453126
>Do it. Better then slaving in a factory
Yeah, at least i know that if no one will kill me and i just cannot die, i can still do friendly fire and then suicide

>>8453121
Senpai just transition you're still young and if it's only your face that's fucked up get ffs. It's better to have a manface than a manbod

>>8453133
You can't change hands, feet or shoulders. Especially as old as dude says he is.

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i still have a "manly" body,
5'9
boy hips (so nothing there)
sort of broad shoulders
maybe some good things could be
really soft hands but they are big
and small wrist and also small frame
Beside my face is like really fucked up, i get a 100% masculine in pictriev all the time, its long and narrow, nose is big, eyes are small, see for yourself

>>8448500
I think if I started it, I wouldn't be a hun... I'd just be an ugly girl..

>>8453150
If I knew I would just be an ugly girl and not a hon i would do it

>>8453153
If I knew I wouldn't be anything more then a dude with boobs, I would do it.

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this

>>8453140
Everyone one starts with boy hips. Height shoulders and frame are the main things that fuck people over body wise. All I'm saying is you're still young you have a chance I don't think you should throw your life away before trying you know? You aren't like 6'1 with linebacker shoulders and a strong Nordic face. You have an ok chance.

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>>8453168
>You have an ok chance.
but knowing my luck ( which is basically none existant) i would be the biggest hon that has ever lived.
And believe me, you wouldnt be saying i have a chance if you saw the rest of my face
those two are the only photos were i tolerate it

>>8453195
Nobody can see shit from those pics. How's your chin and jawline? Those are absolutely crucial for passing. Hrt without social transition is always an option as well.

>>8453195
I'm OP and well I have a pretty shitty starting point as well. Probably worse than yours since I'm 24. Still I'm going to at least try to transition. You should at least try to see if you can be happy. Especially if you plan to throw your life away in the military anyways.

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>Nobody can see shit from those pics.
im too embarrased and grossed out to show anything.
but see with your very eyes.

>Hrt without social transition is always an option as well.
I said that i would never do that, i feel like its too cruel, knowing others have what you desire and you will always live in failure but ill consider it.
>>8453225
> Still I'm going to at least try to transition.
good luck.
i know you'll make it.
>You should at least try to see if you can be happy. Especially if you plan to throw your life away in the military anyways.
i will only be happy as a corpse now.

>>8451419
You're not going to believe me because this is 4chan, but I'm not delusional and I don't have issues passing at all in my day to day life. I'm always assumed female on the phone and in person. It's just non issue for me at this point.

>>8453249
Thanks, hopefully I make it. I actually don't think your lower face is that bad at all. I do hope you find a way to be happy though anon.

>>8453292
And then I replied I replied to bait fuck me.

>>8453168
Permarepressor here. 6'4, Shoulders broader than a bus. K i l l m e

>>8453341
That sucks but at least you don't have to live with knowing you could've passed if you transitioned earlier

I started at 21, life is good.

>>8448500
Depends on what you value. I look very very cis, but really average too. Started at 17. There are trans girls I know that have some more trannyish features and started later, but are really pretty and stand out from the crowd. I'm kinda jealous of them.

>>8453423
Glad to hear your transition went well. I just want to pass tbqh. Even being an ugly girl would be fine by me.

don't listen to the anons, OP, you can pass fine no matter when you start. just takes a little more doing initially.

>>8453500
wrong

case in point: me

>>8453579
okay, sorry, correction:
you have a decent chance to pass fine no matter when you start.

I'm sure thinks will get better though, anon! how long have ya been at it?

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1y8m

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former trans girl here, that everyone hates apparently. Sorry to say but you WON"T be "just an ugly girl". You WON"T LOOK LIKE A GIRL. You will look like a tranny and there is a HUGE difference, even if you don't look like a "hon" you won't look like a cis girl at all, neither an ugly one nor a beautiful one.

>>8453292
why do people like you never post pictures lol. You raelize how many disgusting hons have uttered those same exact words online, yes?

>>8453423
I bet you look like a 17 year old femboy, not a female.

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>>8456007
Post pictures of yourself pole instead of projecting all day long. We could use a laugh.

PS: Enjoy being a castrated male for life.

>>8456007
Only retards post their pictures on 4chan.

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I have pictures floating around this sub and no one has hon'd me in them.

>>8458019
That kid was baiting he literally replied to everyone in the thread saying something negative.

>>8458126
Yeah part of me knew it but part of me just didn't want him to get the last word.

>>8448500
I'm going to start at 24 as well. God I hope I will turn out ok. I don't care if I am ever pretty or anything I just want to not look like a freak.