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>>8422939
>http://transcendmovement.com/if-i-transition-do-friends-have-a-right-to-know-about-my-sexual-interest-in-feminization/

I find it genuinely hilarious men use actual women to represent the "sissies" of their forced fem garbage. It's like they know how ugly men really are in negligee.

>>8423202
Of course we do. Don't shame.

>>8423271

I will, because forced fem is literally misogynist garbage. Sexual objectification and complete dehumanization of women gone to an extreme length. You're nasty.

>>8423286
I have every right to have objectifying and dehumanizing fantasies about myself.

>>8423320

yeah that why:

>men use actual women to represent the "sissies" of their forced fem garbage.

please try to be consistent, you stupid man. you put 'woman' on like a costume and pretend it's 'yourself'? get real.

>>8423328

It's the very state of being a woman that is reduced to being a sex object for another person (usually other men). It's the idea of inherent submissiveness to femaleness. It's the use of women to further spread porn I doubt they made themselves. It's literally "women are fucktoys: the fetish"

>>8423343

Het porn =/= sissy shit.

>>8423332
It's what I wish I was.

>>8423343
It's kind of different though. When I did it, it was because I couldn't fantasize about sex from the other perspective.

When they do it they are using as a method humiliation. When they put themselves in that position they are doing to feel demeaned, and in doing so are saying that women are less than. Otherwise why would they find it as being demeaning?

>>8423286
This this this
T. transbian who always hated female objectification

>>8423286
Forced Fem is about getting what you desire, being feminine, without having to admit that you want it.
It can be manipulative towards the people you have 'force' you to be feminine. Because essentially you're using human beings as props for your fantasy.
The mature thing to do is admit what you want and own up to it.
Easier said than done though.

>>8423351
I think about being submissive to women though?

>>8423387
What if you were always the dominant partner in forced-fem and merely wanted to increase the world's population of cutegirls?

>>8423351
Yes. This is why I have a hard time with sex. One has to be 'used' the other being the 'user'. The power plays and objectifications of roles makes me dysphoric.

>>8423361
>When I did it, it was because I couldn't fantasize about sex from the other perspective.
Excuses. You could have found porn where the woman wasn't submissive if you'd wanted.

>>8423398
Just be a good Dom and have frequent check ins with your cutegirls that you're on the same page.
Other than that, Godspeed, anon.

>>8423366

>bimbo girl tumblrs are made by girls

hahaha... sure.

>>8423360

Doesn't change what it is.

>>8423387

You could do all of that and still look like men, and use men to represent you.

It's about women being objectified as the Ultimate Fuck Toy.

The equivalence made between being a woman, and being feminine, and being submissive, all imply they're inherent to each other. It's misogynist to the core.

>>8423411
If you find a partner, you can experiment with role reversals. Guys get fatigued to by always having to play the dominant role.

>>8423366
It's still wrong. It's self objectification, led by media. It's why angry gf's withold sex as a go to. It's ingrained in them it's their 'only resource'.

>>8423411

>One has to be 'used' the other being the 'user'

Sex can be pretty bad, but when you're vocal about your needs, and remove yourself from bad or dangerous sex, you can minimize the power dynamic.

And you're a man, I'm guessing, so how exactly does this play out for you?

>>8423374
>literally transition out of objectifying the female form
>claims to be against it

What did he mean by this?

>>8423441
>be a TERF who uses half century old freudian thought to judge others from an ivory tower
>hated by all
>loved by none
>shitpost all day on 4chan in the desperate hopes you'll change things

>>8423441
Dysphoria is real. Not everything is about you.

>>8423430
>>It's self objectification, led by media

Refuses to believe women would want to do anything of their own power because it's goes against her own prejudices. Must be some outside force brainwashing the poor dumb girls.

>>8423413
>Assuming I didn't

>>8423456

>calling yourself a transbian because muh dysphoria

>>8423441
don't listen to >>8423454 ilu

>>8423462

There's literally an entire board dedicated to the Jews controlling the world on this site, and you have a problem with 'people are influenced by the society around them and act accordingly?' Tell me, how do ad campaigns work? Why do gay people stay in closet?

>>8423427
I think agp is pseudoscience. People are turned on by being a girl because it's forbidden. If there was less distinction between sexes, there would be far less interest in 'agp' feelings.

>>8423482
>Samefag agree with yourself because literally nobody else will
>Still loved by no one
>Still hated by all

Between TERF and tranny I choose the 12 gauge btw.

>>8423482
Mocking something doesn't make it go away. And I'm not a transbian but I do acknowledge that they exist.

>>8423484
>People are turned on by being a girl because it's forbidden.

This is the weakest analysis ever. FTM is not really valued but no chick I've seen has "forced masculinization" as a fetish.

>>8423498

>Between TERF and tranny I choose the 12 gauge btw.
Great, when are you going to do that?

>>8423421
>Doesn't change what it is.
What it is is what I want for me, not for anybody else...

>>8423510
As soon as I become either a TERF or a tranny. Neither has happened yet, thank God himself. :^)

>the freak show tells me I'm the one who should kys without looking in the mirror

>>8423502
F-M gender TF is not unheard of in the kink scene. It's just rarer because FtMs are rarer in general and people who "tend toward" FtM will "tend toward" that form of gender TF. Just like people who "tend toward" MtF will "tend toward" male to female gender TF.

>>8423484
>People are turned on by being a girl because it's forbidden.
Of all the things that are forbidden, why this?

>>8423523

Men can only become mtfs, not terfs. Silly anon.

>>8423514

That shit is all over the internet, and as a woman, I'm going to point out misogyny when I see it. Sometimes people's sexual interests are based on fucked up things. Personally, I think fetishes can change.

>>8423538

>https://tgmentalhealth.com/tag/prevalence/

If the ratios were the same, the fetish would be a lot more prevalent.

>>8423570
How is wanting that for myself any more misogynistic than a cis girl being submissive sexually?

>>8423566
Because women and women's clothing are sexually stimulating for most men, and it's forbidden and seen as degrading. Which in turn makes it sexually exciting. That's where you get the casual crossdressers from.
Then there's people who have dysphoria with their natal hormones and want to be feminine but feel ashamed for it. That's where you get forced fem and captions and magically turned into a girl. imo

>>8423570
I think women with dysphoria can more easily relieve their discomfort by being extremely butch. So they don't register as transgender in statistics. Whereas mtfs necessarily have to take hormones due to how strong test is. imo

>>8423570
>thinks a fucking blog site can accurately determine the prevalence of a kink in society\

LOL!!!!

my sides

stay classy TERF also

>men can't be feminists

>>8423629
>Because women and women's clothing are sexually stimulating for most men

Yeah, on girls or by themselves (sniffing panties etc.) not playing dressup on your own.

This hypothesis is shit. If every man had a secret drag fetish this would come up WAY more often in society than it actually does. Instead it's a rare and niche interest catered to by the BDSM scene, which is by itself on a scale larger than the forced-fem scene is.

>>8423632

>>>thinks a fucking blog site can accurately determine the prevalence of a kink in society\

dude I said >>If the ratios were the same, the fetish would be a lot more prevalent.

As in, there would be a 2:1 ratio of forced fem to forced masc like there is with mtf to ftm.

>men can't be feminists

Men can't be radfems.

>>8423629

I just think those women are butch. I don't push trans shit on them.

>>8423617

>but most of it is just like wanting to dress in cute clothes and get fugged in the butt.

But you can still be, and be represented by, a man and do those things.

>>8423653
I said it's considered degrading to a lot of men too because men being seen as women in society is to lose status. So, Degradation and BDSM go well together. That's why it's common in that scene.

>>8423665
Oh absolutely. Admitting to yourself you want to be feminine and start hrt can definitely remove the appeal of forced fem fantasies.

>>8423629
What if wanting to be the girl came first and the shame and forced fem came after?

>>8423675
>thinks a fucking blog site can accurately determine the ratio a kink is practiced in society

LOL!!!!!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

It's like everyone on this board takes estrogens! And they do! You're all so fucking easymodu it's like you can't even generate real arguments. Hell, /his/ provides more of an intellectual pushback than you fucked up trannies could ever hope for in hell!

PS: Men can be whatever the hell we want. We're men. It's our society, you're merely playing in it.

>>8423675
>I don't push trans shit on them.
You can whine and yell but it doesn't change the fact that some people from both sexes feel dysphoric from their hormones, social role, and gendered specific presentation.
Go suck on a rock.

>>8423692
That's easy. Society tells us that boys wanting to be feminine is bad. So you internalize that and feel shameful for wanting to be a girl.

>>8423653
Just as not every man likes sniffing panties, not every man likes dressing up.

>>8423705

And some women like short hair and ties and it's not that deep.

>>8423629
>Because women and women's clothing are sexually stimulating for most men
>muh fetish is everybody's fetish

Funnier than the time I saw femdom subs say "Everyone's really into femdom secretly!" yet none of them can get laid.

>>8423718
And some males like girls clothes and socializing as girls and presenting as girls.

>>8423726
??? You don't think lingerie turns men on? U surious.

>>8423736

And those are still men.

>socializing as girls and presenting as girls

Butch lesbians call themselves women. Not equivalent.

>>8423745

>women's clothing means lingerie

Considering the thread we're in, I guess I should not have assumed you think about clothing that isn't lingerie.

>>8423745
>not liking lingerie means you aren't a man

Guess I better pop the skittles because I don't like lace.

>>8423749
>And those are still men.
They are "men" for what purpose?

>Butch lesbians call themselves women.
Not all of them.

>>8423482
So if someone just mentions, say, killing you and I do it, it's totally not my fault? I'm not responsible for my actions?

>>8423758
Yeah, I should've specified. mb
>>8423760
There's silk and artificial fabrics too. Also, why you on tttt if you're not trans or gay? If you're a chaser, chances are you are just a repressed transgirl.

>>8423768
>>Butch lesbians call themselves women.
>Not all of them.

How retarded are you?

>>8423745
Lingerie was always wasted on me. Regular underwear is more of a turn-on. Seriously. I think it is unmasculine NOT to be turned on by lingerie and Victorias Secret models. It make me feel bad sometimes that I don't 'get' things like this that are common for cis guys. I constantly feel like a freak.

>>8423760
But it does. All men like lingerie. Don't you know it's the best birthday present?

>>8423820
which other common cis guy things don't you get?

t. other agp who likes lingerie and regular underwear

>>8423820

>I constantly feel like a freak

Well, we're all here on 4chan, and you're on /tttt/ for no apparent reason...

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>>8423820
Well.. if you're on this board then you're probably not a regular cis dude?

>>8423802
Name calling. Niceu

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>>8423835
>Even stuff like miniskirts and certain dresses and whatnot are still types of lingerie.
You mean like?

>>8423889
What are you using "lingerie" to mean? Anything guys like?

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>>8423944
>Lots of guys find normal clothes sexier than lingerie.

hah

>>8424013
Not only have I never seen it, I don't even know what it is. I'd like to though...

>>8423202
nasty terf

>>8423944
>not everyone is going to find every type of lingerie sexy cause there's a lot of types.
true but lots do like it, hence it selling

>>8423387
>Forced Fem is about getting what you desire, being feminine, without having to admit that you want it.

I disagree. I think the arousal is related to the anxiety of being feminized.

In TG fantasy, forced fem is practically universal. If its a totally voluntary change, it seems to lose all its arousal and appeal.

>>8434431
>I think the arousal is related to the anxiety of being feminized.
expand?

Why the deletions?

>>8438481
mass deletion of a single poster affecting several threads