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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homonationalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_nationalism

Since around 2010, some (though by no means all) groups in the leadership of the white nationalist movement have been inviting out cis gay men to speak at their conferences, write for their magazines, and be interviewed in their journals. Donovan and O'Meara, far to the right of disgraced provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, are the white nationalist movement's actual queer stars. But there are others in the ranks, like Douglas Pearce of the popular neofolk band Death in June. And there are many more gay men (and some trans women) who have been profoundly influenced by two white nationalist ideas: the "threat" posed by Islam and the "danger" posed by immigrants.

Donovan tries to sugarcoat his own racist beliefs when speaking to his main fan base, gay men who like his macho looks and straight men from the "pickup artist" culture and the manosphere who are desperately trying to learn from him how to be manly. Instead, reverting to the other half of the Nazi playbook, he prefers to highlight his hatred for "effeminacy," feminism, and "weakness." A beautifully muscular man of 42 who has perfected a masculine scowl in the many photographs of himself he releases on his website and Facebook page, he functions as beefcake for the neofascist cause. He’s parlayed his butch allure into a brand, earning money from a line of T-shirts and wrist guards that say things like BARBARIAN and a series of books that seek to instruct both straight and gay men in how to become more masculine and in particular, more "violent."
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White gay guys have always been super fascist, only voting Democrat for their own benefit but throwing women and people of color under the bus at EVERY opportunity. A gay guy helped to found the Nazi party (Ernst Röhm).
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>>8393387
Just another story by a blog run by limousine liberals try to keep minorities and the working class divided so that we will always have to suck on the capitalistic tit of the Democrats. There is no alt-right problem in the gay community. Stop trying to divide us
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>>8393387
>Why are gay men being drawn into the alt-right?
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>>8393473
No idea why OP!
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>>8393387
>"pickup artist"
>"effeminacy"
>"weakness"
Funny how the media treats anyone right wing of Hillary as some weird exotic alien subculture with scarequotes galore, yet the most radical of radfems are seen as "scholars" and "activists".
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>>8393728
Probably because of how far right Hillary is. There's a reason why she can never win with her own party
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>>8393728

You're a dipshit. Thomas Sowell and Bret Stephens have had an active career for decades.

You're confusing "Republican" and "to the right of a centrist Dem" with actual Nazi loons.
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>>8393387
>Why are druids being drawn into the alt-left?

Because fake news needs click-bait
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>>8393473
t. whitey
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>>8393728
>yet the most radical of radfems are seen as "scholars" and "activists"

Because (((they))) fund them. The march through the institutions happened.
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>>8393387
>tfw no qt white nationalist bf
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>>8393408
Ernst Röhm last words before dying were ''Mein Führer''.
Hitler was really close to him as well,maybe he loved him?
How poetic.
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>>8394412
protip: that didn't rhyme
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>gay nazi
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>>8394412
What fags. Should have been sent to the chambers.
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>>8393387
What can I say? I don't like minorities or illegals.
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>>8394382

I know.
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>>8393387
Daily reminder that niggers, spics and goat fuckers are worthless welfare leeching breed like rats leftist voting savage parasites that offer nothing to whites other than crime, ungrateful attitude and a lower standard of living.
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>(((Donna Minkowitz)))

Every. Fucking. Time.
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>>8395222
daily reminder that if lgbt "people" try to oppose us, you'll all be killed in the race wars so shut your filthy whorish mouth or pay the price
t. latino
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I am a bisexual neoreactionary. I was drawn towards 'The Alt-Right' by my own intellectual analysis (although I did finish my Red Pill process roughly concurrently with my realization of bisexuality so they could be conceivably linked?).

Also, Richard Spencer is very cute :3.

I can answer any questions you may have.
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>>8395372
>Also, Richard Spencer is very cute :3.
>I can answer any questions you may have.
you already did
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>>8395415

What question?
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>>8395222
Checked, trips of truth.
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>>8395332
> waging war against white people
Top laff
White men may be pussies. But you'd be surprised just how far we'd fuck you back into the stone age. We're gonna hang up some pictures of based Polk and wipe Mexico off the map for real
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>the "threat" posed by Islam and the "danger" posed by immigrants.
>alt-right only things
That political position was already held by a gay man a full decade before the alt-right was even born.

and that was in a time where muslim terrorism was still considered exotic.
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>>8393387
>(((Donna Minkowitz)))
Holy fuck, they don't even try to hide it anymore.
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>>8393387
Let me go ahead and ruin this entire thread for yall.

As a pseudo closeted gay guys who chases effeminate blond twinks, and as a NatSoc with about 10 years of activism under my belt, I can tell you this:

There aren't any, or NEARLY as many gays in modern fascism/National Socialism as you guys seem to think.

The closest I ever came to "acceptance", is drunkenly telling one of my closer comrades that I fuck males too, which was met with instant "dont ever talk about that again" attitude. The only reason I wasn't instantly outed, is because I'm too important to be ousted so easy.

What you guys are thinking of is a pipe dream. There is no huge gay movement in Fascism or modern National Socialism. I wouldn't be against it but I'm clearly biased against the norm. Also, I don't see why it should be exclusive to masculine gay men, and not the effeminate types as well. Like, what the fuck is even the point behind that? Seems like a retarded rule some fetishist thought up.
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>>8394412
Men being close friends, especially military, isn't a sign of homosexuality. Quit reaching so hard.

Plus Rohm was a fat pig. I sincerely doubt there was any attraction.
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>>8393408
It was not just Rohm. A huge chunk of the Stormtrooper leadership was openly gay men
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>>8398065
What was your activism and what made you start thinking that way?Got any other pics?
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>>8398065

Luckily, I'm alt-libertarian not NatSoc. Just join us, senpai.
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>>8400261
Why would a NatSoc become a libertarian? The former has far more in common in with communists, progressives (original and modern) and DemSoc than with classical liberals. Disregard for freedom of association, disregard for anything close to a non-aggression principle, the common faith in 'top men'...

Besides, (((libertarianism))) was pushed by Jewish intellectuals.
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Anyway, camp is not property of the left, nor are gays. Maybe if the left's rhetoric didn't involve outright hatred of whites and hatred of men and hatred of 'cis', they wouldn't have alienated so many homos. Sorry 'bout it.
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^ Especially so since camp is historically irreverent, and the modern left is insistent on pushing censorship, speech-policing and shame brigades. Those things are not reconcilable.

Sorry, leftists, but you blew it. Enjoy 8 years of Trump.
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>>8393387
Cults recruit through fear, sex appeal, the innate human need for belonging and identity, and by targeting one's presumed insecurities.

Both the far left and the far right are guilty of this, but the far right is different in that it revels in its recruitment tactics and roots them in ancient memes like Abrahamic religion, nationalism, machismo, and the lust for power and control, whereas the left presents them as counter cultural rebellion and the defense of the downtrodden.

It's all poison, and it's bad for you. Be your own person. Ignore the extremes. Ignore those trying to convince you to fight their wars for them as a mindless pawn.
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Probably because progressives have started attacking gay men for not being 'oppressed' enough.

Also because its idiotic to defend Islam if you supposedly care about human rights and equality.
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>Why are gay men being drawn into the alt-right?
Alt-Right are a bunch of culturally liberal, reformist, civcuck faggots, so of course it would logically follow that they are literal faggots as well

WE DON'T WANT OR NEED SODOMITES
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>>8396187

Come on now, you know /pol/ is allergic to actual history. You'll trigger the poor dears.
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>>8401053
>Bottom boys get in for free
Stopped reading right there. There's no gay night in the world that isn't 100 bottoms trying to hookup with the 3 tops there.
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>>8401372
lol, you're looking for 100% accuracy huh
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>>8401372
Interesting, that makes it a reverse of straight gender dynamics.
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>>8393491
This, lmfao
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>>8394346
t. Single issue race voter
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>>8395222
Checked trips
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>>8401652
Yep. And every gay would become a submissive bottom for a hot straight guy. It's an interesting situation. I'd be interested to see if most nights guys are also bottoms, because almost every one I've met has been
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>>8398065
How "homophobic" would you say the alt-right is? Like, if you were surrounded by a bunch of alt-righters who knew you were gay, would they attack you beyond some dirty looks? I know everyone's different, and I've seen some mixed answers to the question on /pol/, but I just want to know what you've experienced. Also I'm assuming you're a normal gay guy in this scenario and not a flamer.
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>>8402183
>Like, if you were surrounded by a bunch of alt-righters who knew you were gay, would they attack you beyond some dirty looks?
Yes, that happens all the time to gay people in Europe in alt-right districts.

Wait, that's not the alt-right.
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>>8402169
Most bi guys*
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>>8402204
You're talking about Muslims, right? I've already accepted that the left is going to side with Muslims over us. I'm just wondering if there's any chance of safety within the other extreme, or if we're going to have to bank on a less-extreme civic nationalist "alt-lite".
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>>8402229
>I'm just wondering if there's any chance of safety within the other extreme,
As a rule, I think yes.
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Sorry for not replying earlier, work called me in and I had a late night. I'm this guy.
>>8398065


>>8400222
I started thinking this way at some point during my military service, seeing how races, even in the same company or platoon sort of segregate themselves on off-time. It's only natural. Then seeing how degrading my own race was to itself, it started to make me angry. How most liberal whites strive to be a walking mat for other races due too "white guilt". Its disgusting. Thats how it started. My activism consisted of passing out fliers....and some underground recruiting, mostly.


>>8400261
No.

>>8402183
>would they attack you beyond some dirty looks

No, but I'm 6'2", and have an imposing stature. And no, I'm not a flamer by any means. I have a quiet, more sincere nature. I'm not sure how they'd react to someone whom is clearly gay. The aly-right anyways. NatSoc guys would likely just avoid you.
Photo is from about 10 years ago.
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>>8402961
you should see how it is at any uni in the states. Last year the first edition of the schools paper was commending the school for it's least white year yet. our state is over 70% white, this years enrollment 40%, mostly Asians for the rest. So you still in the army? Seems like a good place fro recruitment considering it's mostly southerners.
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>>8402229
>I'm just wondering if there's any chance of safety within the other extreme
Nope.
>or if we're going to have to bank on a less-extreme civic nationalist "alt-lite".
Yep.

Or you form your own group.
Like actual homonationalism or something like that.
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>>8403038
I'm no longer in the service. I did my contract and after the war I was discharged honorably. As for Southerners, eh, it's kind of a mix. I was an Infantry grunt, so there was a LOT of aggression and "war" mentality. I did not try to recruit anyone there. That was not my job.

And what your Uni is doing...thats the thing that creates minds like mine. Just one more straw on the camels back, Remember, National Socialist didn't come to power by preaching to those who were already happy.
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>>8403106
It creates the minds, but not fast enough. People don't recognize how bad it is or that it is even bad. Visiting an acquaintance at a local community college, they were having a Mexican cultural fair. Held by la raza affiliate group, that openly advocated reconquest of the southern U.S. The white students thought this was great, stick it to the white man.
Where were you stationed? At least the scenery was probably nice.
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>>8403181
I was stationed in Kuwait, doing convoys over into Iraq. Scenery wasnt great, unless you like sand.

Yeah, Whites have become this self loathing, pathetic, worm of a people. It's the product of Cultural Marxism. This was always the plan of Jewish media.
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>>8403219
At least Kuwait was safe, scenery would have gorgeous in Afghanistan but you would have had to deal with Afghans. At least with the rise of alternative media some people are noticing the issues. Probably to late for western Europe though.
Say is bacha bazi a thing in Kuwait? I had a had a geostrategist or whatever acquaintance in Afghanistan who said it was rampant over there even for servicemen. Or do they just use the imported Filipinos?
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>>8403250
In Kuwait, the main enemy was boredom

And I didn't know of much Bacha Bazi in Kuwait, it's actually a rather advanced westernized society in some place. It happened in Iraq though. And the guys I served with never took part in any of those practices. . And I never saw a Filipino, though I was on a joint ops base. Germans, Georgians, Koreans, Brits etc....
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>>8403283
Westernized sounds like an exaggeration considering how much slavery they have. I meant did they just use their imported Filipino slaves for sex slavery.
Did seeing how Muslim society work help get you towards your current ideology?
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>>8403340
I meant Kuwait is westernized in SOME places (Kuwait City, for example). And I never saw, or heard of any Filipinos when I was in either Iraq or Kuwait. I'm not saying it's not a thing, I'm just saying it's not a thing I ever came in contact with. The impact of my deployment didn't have much to do with my current ideology. It was interesting to see a culture so vastly different. I never had any resentment toward the Iraqi people, or Kuwaitis. They are a people with a lot of problems, but they've grown so used to war and occupations, it's routine for them. It's not a huge surprise they don't often take loyalty to, what is to them, just another occupier.

It did, however, enforce my dislike of Capitalism. Seeing how little others live with, then coming home to see fat, spoiled, western children crying and waning for the next new cell phone, or crying about "micro aggressions".
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>>8403397
Wow every Kuwaiti I ever met just made me look toward a second Iraqi occupation. Every Iraqi I ever met made me look forward towards an irredentist Iran. You at least dislike Islam though right?
I don't think the Kuwaitis problem is capitalism, without it they would all have nothing. They just lack a proper education system and inwardly directed capitol to have industries outside of petrol.Their sovereign wealth fund is composed of entirely foreign companies.
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>>8403422
>Their sovereign wealth fund is composed of entirely foreign companies.

True, I suppose. If it wasn't for that black gold, they'd be living in poverty.

As for Islam...It's not something I see as good or evil. It's an ideology, and like any other ideology or religion, it just depends on whos practicing it. Though, if I had my own society, I'd not allow it, as it's alien to my people.

Autarky, Homogeneity, and cultural and racial preservation are on the top of the list for any actual National Socialist.
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>>8403250
>who said it was rampant over there even for servicemen. Or do they just use the imported Filipinos?
American servicemen?
>>8403283
>It happened in Iraq though
What do you mean by this?
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>>8403458
>Autarky,
So a Kjellén style nationalist? I like limited free trade, but to each his own.
I never met anyone with such a serene view of Islam, either it's a bulwark against western and colonial oppression or the spawn of satan. Since you're no longer in the military what do you do?
>>8403508
I meant do the Kuwaitis just use the flips as substitutes for bacha bazi .
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>>8403508
I mean I heard of it happening in Iraq. Not so much in Kuwait. I guess fucking young males happened a lot there. I was a convoy gunner though, I wasn't doing urban ops, and I didn't spend much time with locals. So I never personally saw it. I'd heard stories though.

I don't see anything wrong with an older man fucking a younger male though, as long as it's not straight up pedo-ago. It has been common practice throughout history. It's never held as much stigma as it does now.

I find it funny how older straight males lust after the "high school cheerleader" type, but when an older gay male does the same thing for the same sex counterpart, it's much more stigmatic.
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>>8403521
>I never met anyone with such a serene view of Islam

I don't waste time on hating or loving things that have nothing to do with myself or my people.

>So a Kjellén style nationalist

You're the first person I've know to use this term, but yes, something similar to that. You must be decently educated.

I also think, had the Reich won the war, it, like any other political system would have adapted as time went on. I doubt things like homosexuality would hold as much stigma in the 2017 Reich, as it did in the 1930s version.

But I suppose thats a moot point.

I do think that is an issue with moderns "National Socialist", they cling to an outdated version on NSism. They in effect antique themselves.

That and the Skinheads...ugh, they do more to damage the image of NSism than any Jew could hope to do. Uneducated, foolish...I can't stand them.
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>>8403521

>Since you're no longer in the military what do you do?

Forgot to answer this. I work at a bar now.
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>>8403574
I like mazzini or Ratzel nationalism personally
Thank I have always prided myself on my erudite tendencies. Plus I had a course in Uni this year about geopolitics.
Absolutely right about the skin heads,they are such welfare leaches, on the plus side that means less for illegals. Everything progresses except peoples attachment to ideologies, so you might be right.
Fun, Gay bar or regular?
You thinking about taking advantage of the GI bill?
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>>8403631
>Fun, Gay bar or regular?

I did work at a gay bar, I didn't fit in very well. I'm not flamboyant, and I'm rather...I don't know. Serious? I have a calm demeanor. Most of the customers there were flamboyant and very outwardly gay. There was a lot of attraction toward me from the customers. It always made me think "If they are attracted to me, to how I am, then why do they all act so...opposite?". I've had to carry many drunk twinks out of that place, wedding style. Until I learned they were acting drink in some cases because they wanted me to carry them.

In any case, that place shut down. Owner wanted to retire.

I work at a biergarten now. Lots of craft beer/cocktails. Snobby hipsters abound. They all have the exact same Liberal mindset. It's like they are sharing the exact thought process, it's a tad disturbing at times.

And yes, I'm using the GI Bill to go back to college this fall. I will someday be teaching history.....correct history.
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>>8403685
Opposites attract, in people it's always one sided. Or they abandon all other interests for a pretty face.
You can't be too open in the education system, the leftists control it all the way up. You could only provide hints at best. Even in states like Texas the schools attack "whiteness".
Most people only get their news from a few sources, and it's fairly common regardless of their position on the political spectrum.
So you're a bartender?
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>>8403726
Yes, the education system is nothing more than indoctrination. I want to change that. I doubt I'll be able too, but it's a step in the right direction.

>Opposites attract, in people it's always one sided

I suppose thats true, I do have a "type". And it's not me for sure.

>So you're a bartender?
I do pretty much everything from cooking, to making drinks. I fill in the gaps.
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>>8403742
Seems risky, a single complaint and you are screwed out of working at any school for life.
So what is the correct history would you be teaching?
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>>8403767
Well, for example, I'd be giving BOTH sides of what happened with the NSDAP, say, I'd mention WHY there was anti-antisemitism, and the reason the NSDAP was even a thing to begin with (anti-Communism etc).

All of that is far off in the future though.
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>>8403781
That's good, they all ignore why people hated them. You should see the new common core stuff for WW2 and the holocaust, Israeli grandmother must have wrote it. Still any jew complain and you are dead.
Seems weird that someone so right wing is here. /pol/ your main board?
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>>8403817
I rarely ever visit /pol/, my interests lay here because I've been lately catching wind of the political climate of the gay community. Almost like there is an "underground" of gay right wingers.

That and I kind of read a lot of BL comics..... I'm a bit of a romantic, and a lot of those stories are very much romantic.
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>>8403841
The amount of black drag queen gifs, I think shows the politics here. So do yuo go to other places or live stuff?
Bara or yaoi?
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>>8403875
Live stuff? What do you mean? I've been to 5 other countries. Or maybe you meant on the net?

I don't like "Bara" art. I like feminine males.
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>>8403947
I meant like live nationalist groups, a lot of people don't want to risk being put on a list, or tracked, so they keep online, like /pol/.
So basically you want a mellow conservative twink? Sounds rare
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>>8403993
>I meant like live nationalist groups

Most big NS groups are numbered by fat uneducated pigs who know nothing more than shouting racial obscenities and shaving their heads. I'll have nothing to do with them. I've met Jeff Schoep, commander of the "NSM" before, he struck me as a weak, patsy eel. And his followers are no better. They are not actual National Socialists. They are attention seekers.

>So basically you want a mellow conservative twink? Sounds rare

More like non-existent. And their politics don't much concern me, if I develop feeling for someone, nothing else really matters. As long as they aren't insanely far left. I basically just want a "traditional"-ish relationship. Just with an effeminate male. I have 0 attraction to masculinity.
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>>8404050
So then who do you talk to about politics?
Being gay must suck for you.
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>>8404084
It's not easy...and other NSists don't know about my.."other" life choices. I don't really advertise it. And yes, it's very lonely, to be honest. I'm hated for being how I am by each side. Such is life.
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>>8404109
There must be some pluses, you looked hot in that pic. there's always here at least, Twitter is a great vent as well.
You ever read praktischer idealismus?
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>>8404131
I haven't but seeing how there is a link to the PDF on Daily Stormer, I'm sure I will have by the time the week is out.

So, what is it you do here? Chat with random NatSoc people?
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>>8404145
When I was younger I had some eurobrat(children of eurocrats) friends recommend it to me, they sent me a Spanish PDF,, since I spoke the language at the time, they thought it was good, To them Europe is nothing more than some abstract values and land. I ended a friendship when I told a girl off, after she said some rapes were going to happen during the transition period and it was fine.
I just come to /lgbt/ to laugh, so much suffering to make me feel better. My main board is actually /ck/, good recipes occasionally
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>>8404164
Oh, so you like cooking? What do you like to cook? I personally like Italian and Japanese food.

Where are you from?
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>>8393496
wow I had not heard of this and this makes me legitimately angry. I rarely get rused by things and wow this just takes the cake
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>>8404180
Poulsbo, it's little Norway
I prefer cooking fried foods and sweets regardless of the nationality, I make cuban occasionally . Pandan madeleines were a favorite of mine to make, or dulce de leche covered flan filled macaroons.
I can't stand Japanese it's all seafood.
A few years back When a black girl won miss Poulsbo some people came out in Nazi uniforms. I didn't pay too much attention because I was eating funnel cake.
Lately it's turning into little mexico.
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>>8404238
Sounds nice, I hope you enjoyed your funnel cake. I can't stand sweets myself, or seafood. I like Japanese beef sushi though. What are you, racially?
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>>8404281
White what else would I be?
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>>8404302
I mean what makes up your racial background. Tell me about yourself.
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>>8404307
I'm 1/2 Irish, quarter Spanish, 1/4 Austro polish mix
My mother is from Cuba and 1/2 Spanish Galician and 1/2 Polish Galician. The Spanish are actually Castilian, but they lived in Galicia.
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>>8404324
Mhmm...and what do you look like?
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>>8404334
have an pic,
sadly I took the antibiotic doxyxyline for a sinus infection and it gave me cysts, so i now I have scarring. So i look like that and add some acne scars I'm doing acid peels, it works but it's taking forever.
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>>8393491
Yeah this shit was infuriating, glad they got fucked by this.
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>>8404216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0rXfX0Q7WE

How long can you last?
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>>8404356
Heh, still a pretty boy though.
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>>8404383
I'm not effeminate though, sloped forehead and biggish nose, masculine features. How bout you?
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>>8404408

This is me.
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>>8404446
I thought you would have short hair, looks good.
Say do you lean towards ethnic or racial nationalism?
For most people it's white is white, little care about ethnicity. I personally dislike that.
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>>8404478
Hm, well, cultures should keep their own traditions, but I see race as more important than borders. Especially these days.
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>>8404514
Ethnicity is more than borders, genetically just as real as race, but I get your point.
Wish people took either more seriously, like Europe's nonexistent borders.
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>>8404552
Europe has become a shadow of culture. A self destroying crown of "white guilt". Merkel... That fucking woman....
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>>8404577
I liked her before the refugee crisis, the CDU has otherwise good policies.
V4 is the only sane part of Europe left.
So what kind of music do you like? That hardcore Nazi death metal stuff?
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>>8404625
Absolutely not. My favorite genre is classical piano. Franz Liszts "Liebstraum" is mind altering for me.
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>>8404680
Liszt is great, how do you like amilcare ponchieli or smetana
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>>8404781
All great names, but Liszt will always "Top my Liszt".
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>>8404805
Clever, got anything else?
You definitely are different than the average NatSoc
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>>8404821
Debussey, Rachmaninoff, Povarati on the Operatic side...

Anything like that really. Do you have Skype?
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>>8404877
I don't and having looked around i don't have any audio or a camera to use for it. Any other ideas?
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One the one hand I think any gay guy that goes fash is a traitor and useful idiot for the right, but on the other hand it would be really funny to see them get the Ernst Roehm treatment from the other Nazis.
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>>8404969
Email? Whats yours?
>>8404988
Because anyone who doesn't follow the Liberal hivemind deserves execution, right?

Oh, and Rohm was a pig.
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>>8405010
it's a temp
[email protected]
what idiot what would put there real one on 4chan.
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>>8405010
It's actually really funny and good to kill Nazis, IMO.
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>>8405010
>Rohm was a pig
Yes, he was a Nazi pig, but betraying and murdering a loyal supporter like Rohm shows the depth of Hitler's evil.
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>>8405028
Sent.
>>8405044
Nobody cares about your opinion.
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>>8405056
Rohm was degenerate, and it showed trough his actions. The party was clearly under better control after the garbage was swept out. And I can tell your knowledge of history is based on what you've seen in films and heard through other parrots.

>depth of Hitler's evil

Well, gays are supposed to be good at drama, so you fit that bill.
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>>8405070
Are those Nazis eating two fucking scoops?
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>>8405079
>clearly under better control
Hitler was in control of the Party both before and after the betrayal. Rohm and the other Sturmabteilung officers purged were loyal to Hitler. It does show how evil he was, whether you like that or not. But yes, excellent control, only stellar leadership can bring about results like Hitler's...
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>>8405091
Haha, you're using a picture of Soviets, and complaining about control? It took half the world to bring down the Germans. The USSR crumbled under its own weight because of faulty leadership. Haha, oh the irony.

And are you not clear about the Night of Long Knives? Do you really know this little about what you're talking? I'm not even sure if I should bother with you. Your knowledge seems based on Tarintino movies.
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>>8405112
I thought you would be intelligent enough to understand that I posted a picture of the Red Army raising the Soviet banner over Berlin to illustrate the failure of Hitler's leadership, not because I wanted to talk about how great Stalinism worked out. Unlike you I value my rights and freedoms.

The Night of the Long Knives was clearly a betrayal of loyal officers. Do you know what you're talking about?
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>>8405091
Uhm...Didn't Stalin kill like, a large number of his leaders? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was a thing.
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>>8405128
We can talk about Stalin if you like. He was evil too, though he was at least successful about it.
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Straight guy here checking out this board because it was linked on /int/ and boredom

I was involved in the alt-right and TRS for the past few years before a stopped a few months after realizing how stupid white nationalism is and especially the leaders of "the movement"

I don't think any of you realize just how gay alt-right is.
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>>8405123
I know much, much more on the subject than you, I'll tell you that right now. Oh, and what "right and freedoms" exactly?

And the NOLK was a blood purge of those who were deemed unworthy. And again, it worked like a charm. Before that it was street fight and protests. After that it was running the nation.

Stop being stupid.
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>>8405148
>I know much, much more on the subject than you, I'll tell you that right now
You trying to convince me? Or yourself?

>what "right and freedoms" exactly?
You know exactly what kinds. Hitler and Stalin were both notorious for restricting the same basic human rights and freedoms such as the right of peaceful assembly, association, expression, movement, religion, and so on.

>the NOLK was a blood purge of those who were deemed unworthy
Please. It was political infighting. The Sturmabteilung descended, the Schutzstaffel ascended.
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>>8405138
>past few years

I'm not a White Nationalist, or "Alt-Right". I'm a National Socialist. And this debate is about National Socialism. I also sincerely doubt you are "straight", more than likely a fetishist who wants to be perceived as hetero. Thus getting attention from homosexuals who seem fond of hetero men.

Oh, and as we already discussed, the leaders of "the movement", are morons. And if you went to them for your info, no wonder why you dislike all of it.

You should have done your research for yourself.
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>>8405137
>successful
>assassinated by higher ups after a lifetime of paranoia
>empire collapses in on itself 50 years after death
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>120 replies
You all taking this seriously?
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>>8405165
>You trying to convince me? Or yourself?
Doesn't matter. You're clearly to far up on that high horse. You lack a lot of information, and formulate opinions based on reactionary garbage.

>peaceful assembly,
You mean the riots that keep happening?


>expression
Oh my, how vague.

>movement
Movement of????

>religion,
Yes, because thats worked out well so far, right?

>association
With?

>It was political infighting. The Sturmabteilung descended, the Schutzstaffel ascended.

Well yeah, no shit. Thats what was supposed to happen. And again, it worked.
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>>8405182
>"assassinated"

>hello where is the proof?

Stalin went from being a bank robbing fugitive to a world leader commanding the largest military on earth. He stayed in Moscow through the worst days of the German invasion, even when the German army was on the city's doorstep. Then he won the war and died holding onto his office at home. Through it all he turned a backwards country with wooden ploughs into a nuclear superpower. Yes, he was evil, but there is no denying he was successful. Rather like Ivan the Terrible that way.
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>>8405197
>You lack a lot of information
You keep saying so, but you don't actually offer any information, just your own massive ego...

>You mean the riots
You just mentioned a moment ago the Nazis themselves were notorious for violent rioting before gaining power.

>Oh my, how vague.
I am talking about censorship laws, smartass.

>Yes, because thats worked out well so far
People have a right to their own business away from the government, including faith.

>With?
Freedom of association generally means the right to associate socially with other people, which Hitler and Stalin both restricted for many people for a wide variety of reasons.

>Well yeah, no shit. Thats what was supposed to happen. And again, it worked.
It seem we don't disagree about what happened to those officers or even their loyalty to Hitler. You just refuse to admit the Fuhrer could commit betrayal.
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>>8405200
>Doesn't mention that Hitler went from starving in the streets to commanding and entire country with some of the best tech on the planet.

>"Unsuccessful"
>>
They're alt-right?
more like
They ain't-right.
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>>8405215
Hitler was an epic failure in the end though. The system Stalin built failed, but that was long after Stalin died. It's literally just the difference between the winner of a war and the loser.
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>>8405172
>I'm not a White Nationalist, or "Alt-Right". I'm a National Socialist. And this debate is about National Socialism
the article says alt-right doofus

>I also sincerely doubt you are "straight", more than likely a fetishist who wants to be perceived as hetero. Thus getting attention from homosexuals who seem fond of hetero men.
I like girls and this sounds like its one of your personal problems

>Oh, and as we already discussed, the leaders of "the movement", are morons. And if you went to them for your info, no wonder why you dislike all of it.
I get the whole demographic situation and yes they're right that white people are losing.

but anyway if demographics are destiny, then the alt right will fail because it's filled with people that have failed in life. If demographics aren't destiny, then a core alt right tenet is wrong.
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>>8405212
>but you don't actually offer any information

I've been studying this subject for over 10 years now. Even if I hadn't, I'm sitting in front of a device that has any answer to any question I could ask. So your petty insult is just that.

>You just mentioned a moment ago the Nazis themselves were notorious for violent rioting before gaining power.

And it worked.

>I am talking about censorship laws, smartass.

Better to be a smart ass, than a dumb ass. And besides, those laws are still in place. All around the world.

But go ahead and raise your kids on GTA and porn. See how it turns out.

>People have a right to their own business away from the government, including faith.

Sure thing. If they wish to follow another faith, they can go somewhere where it is practiced.

>Freedom of association generally means the right to associate socially with other people, which Hitler and Stalin both restricted for many people for a wide variety of reasons.

Give me an example. Are you talking about the race laws?

>You just refuse to admit the Fuhrer could commit betrayal.

If you have a weak link, you remove it. Thats how you survive. Do you think every weak link deserves a pat on the back and a hug? Participation awards all around?
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>>8405238
Oh look, another self loathing white person.
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>>8405255
>if you don't hate other people you have to hate yourself
yourbrainonideology
>>
I leave and the conversation becomes interesting.
Aint that how it works
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>>8405255
lol the white race is going to die
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>>8405268
At least when our race dies we can take gay rights with us, especially considering the birth rate of Muslims and Africans.
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>>8405252
>Are you talking about the race laws?
That would be one example. There were also laws restricting freedom of association related to homosexuality, religion, politics and more (in both Hitlers Germany and Stalins CCCP)

>If you have a weak link, you remove it.
You said yourself the street riots worked. The SA were the driving force behind those riots. Rohm was not "removed" for being gay, or for being incompetent. He was removed because of Himmler's ambition and Hitler's paranoia.
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>>8405260
I never said that. Putting words in my mouth to support your argument? Weak dude...Weak.
>>8405268
>Citation needed
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>>8402961

>that pic

Hnnnng, you look hot with that uniform pls dominate me Senpai.
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>>8405275
Weak just like modern day fascists.
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>>8405271
gays will be fine in the US, the Hispanics won't stop you

>>8405275
just wait for the 2020 census, if you aren't thoroughly blackpilled yet you will be
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>>8405273
>Rohm

Just out of curiosity, why are you so obsessed with Rohm? Look back, he was completely incompetent. But there are better examples you could be using to try and prove your point, and I have arguments to counter those as well.

>That would be one example

Why would you think of this as a bad thing? If a new law came out tomorrow that kept the black community, with it's criminality, separate from the rest of the people, wouldn't you support it?

And no, I'm not saying ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE BAD. Don't put that token in my slot, because I'll shut that shit down.

>>8405278
No.

>>8405284
Oh, so you re agreeing your argument is weak? Also personal insult do nothing for your point.

>>8405290
Haha, the Black Pill, isn't that the one all the edgy teens take before they throw on their "Anarchy" shirts and head to the mall?


The problem with most of you is you have no pride or dignity in your own people, even going out of your way to attack those who'd look to defend the existence of your own people. I'd respect the most hard core black nationalist far before I would any of you. Doesn't get much lower than trying to extinguish your own kind, or standing by while it happens.
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>>8405290
We can do something it just needs to be done quickly even if it means abandoning socal
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>>8405334
got skype working, no visual or audio though
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>>8405341
>got skype working,
>no visual or audio though
Why aren't you just using IRC?
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>>8405337
its not going to happen though, we're fucked

>>8405334
>Doesn't get much lower than trying to extinguish your own kind, or standing by while it happens.
and I suppose you're going to save the white race by posting picture of SS soldiers on /lgbt/? is that how demographics work?
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>>8405334
>why are you so obsessed with Rohm?
It was another Anon that brought him up and started this conversation... He is not that interesting for his own sake to be desu but the purge of Rohm and the SA officers is one of many parallels between Hitler and Stalin.

>he was completely incompetent
You were praising the effectiveness of the SA in the street battles under Rohm's leadership earlier. I dont know why you think he was incompetent.

>Why would you think of this as a bad thing?
Like I said I value my rights and freedoms.
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>>8405358
My posting pictures of the SS is so you can identify me easier. I have other forms of activism. Don't tell me your that stupid...

>its not going to happen though, we're fucked
They've been saying that for the last few decades. It's a defeatist mindset, and minds are changing. There are more pro white groups in the US now since the Klan was in its hayday. We are, without a doubt, swinging back.
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>>8405381
please detail your "activism"

>They've been saying that for the last few decades.
and every census proves them right...
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>>8405389
>and every census proves them right...

And what race are you?

>please detail your "activism"

No.
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>>8405411
>And what race are you?
I'm 1488% white and my ancestors have lived in this country since Jamestown

>No.
then I'll just assume you don't do anything irl
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>>8405423
>then I'll just assume you don't do anything irl

Assume all you want.
>I'm 1488% white and my ancestors have lived in this country since Jamestown

Using Neo-nazi code. What a joke.
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>>8405449
>Using Neo-nazi code. What a joke.
...as he proceeds to post old nazi propaganda for the twentieth time tonight
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>>8405467
Did you not read my opinion on skinheads? Where is the other guy, at least he could hold an argument.
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>>8405475
pretend to be different from skinheads all you want but at the end of they day its the same, you're both retards
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>>8405491
>you're both retards

Personal insults =/= argument.
>>
>>8405516
its not worth making an argument with you, the white race is dying and we both know this, and if it isn't then what you're doing is pointless
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>>8405524
Sure sure, go wear your tinfoil hat. Go and embrace your own peoples death with a smile, go lay down and be a little bitch.

I'm done with you, I dont converse with cowards.

And as you stated, you have no argument.
>>
>>8405545
no, i'm not going to lay down, i'm going to make non-white babies
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>>8405547
>Being this much of a race cuck.

Go ahead, I'd rather not have your genetics in my side of the blood line. Also you'll be destroying another race as well.

Win win for me.

PS, you have to find someone to actually have sex with you first.
>>
>>8405560
enjoy being a minority :^)
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>>8405563
bavarian? finish bismark yet?
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>>8405563
Keep trying, from what I see your on the loosing side.

But go ahead lol.

>Being this much of a cuck.

I think you've already lost, being this much of a self loathing cuck. Hahaha.
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>>8405560
You do know that all nazis' effort ultimately resulted to millions of Russo-German mongrel rape-babies? :^)
>>
>>8404362
>glad they got fucked by this.
They did? Story pls?
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>>8406153
Bavarian?
>>
>>8393491
LA Pride got changed to a "Resist" march this year. I'm pissed that straights who want to virtue signal on social media hijacked our parade.
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Join the OFFICIAL /polgb/ Discord:

https://discord dot gg/nR4hJZ4
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>>8409863
Get fucked poof nobody cares about your ass when there are much bigger issues
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>>8401053
>i'm a nazi
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>>8404371
Jesus Christ this was cancer.
>>
Owning a SS uniform is the single most gay thing I can think of.
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>>8395587
>implying
Youre probably some greasy 40yrold fatass, imagining
>mu muh white pride
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>>8398082
I know he was a Nazi but body shaming is uncalled for no matter the context.

t. large person in a long term committed relationship because big people are human too.
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>>8415821
Hit the gym and stop stuffing your piehole.
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>>8415787
You need to have the SS cosplayer bottom for the Red Army cosplaying top
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>>8415821
shut it fattie
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>>8415787
SA uniform is more gay.
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>>8415821

>>>Tumblr
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>>8394382

I have one, and lemme tell you it gets old after a while.

Basically your world gets pretty small cause your god damn white nationalist BF can't exist in spaces that aren't exclusively white anglosaxon protestant male without getting grumpy and passive-aggressive.

You can't go to the movies, he's gunna bitch about jews and hollywood.

You can't go to the mall together cause there will be minorities doing stuff.

Can't go down town or club or city bars because there will probably be flaming gays or more minorities and he'll bitch the whole time.

And he's gunna guilt trip you if you don't want to move to rural Texas (we live in Canada) which he apparently thinks is some sort of white paradise.

You're also pretty hard pressed to find anyone to be friends with the both of you; you'd be surprised how few and far between holocaust denying anti-all-minority white nationalist "Canada should be annexed, all hail Trump" are.
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>>8396187

Of course those are alt-right only things. Are you daft?

We are all taught very clearly that Islam is only a danger to bigots, and that our intolerance towards their religion is why they ever attack in the first place.

Islam is a religion of peace; the idea that "Muslims hate us" due to our overly-announced decadence, the Quran directly encouraging antagonism towards the west, our support of female and gay rights, and our rampant heresy is simply made up by white cis racists.
>>
>>8417007

This would be a hilarious TV show.
>>
>>8393387
>alt light
That's it, I'm voting democrat next year.
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>>8393491
Gays>Niggers
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>>8417026
>Still believes the "Religion Of Peace" thing.
You surely missed the Chechenya incident. Don't tell people that the West is "oh so oppresive muh lorde" because that is not true, just because a lot of the times the LGBT stuff is not accepted it's mostly because of people like you, who just keep on saying the same thing:
>"b-but the west is SO sexist! h-haven't you seen how they let women vote? Islam wouldn't let that happen!"
Try again.
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>>8417026
How can it be an alt-right only thing if it existed before the alt-right?

In fact it's the alt-right who appropriated the issue and pretend they have a monopoly on being anti-islam and anti-immigration.
Funny because the socialists held that position for a while too.
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>>8393387
right wing fags need to get their shit together

As soon as you are more useful as an enemy they will be plowing your pedo aids ridden degenerate society destroying graves

They need an enemy, right now they got the refugees and "SJWs"... gays are an easy soft target for the same demonizing tactics
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>>8417007
>if you don't want to move to rural Texas (we live in Canada) which he apparently thinks is some sort of white paradise.

kek
Texas is full of blacks and asians (at least in Houston) and mexicans (everywhere) but it is /pol/s favorite state so that must be where he is getting it from.
If you want to avoid minorities you should try northern Idaho or Montana although there are still native americans there and Canada is probably not much different in terms of weather and scenery.
but to some people the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
he is good in bed at least, i hope?
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>>8417007
Did it start out as a fetish relationship that just never got the chance to break? I couldn't take someone like that seriously, but I admit it sounds like it'd be a fun fuck. I imagine them being absolute animals in bed, fueled by years of repressed self-hate for taking pleasure in something that would get themselves lynched or gassed by peers of their own ideology.
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>>8409863
Let's be honest, most of us in LA are "Resist" types. A lot of people won't be outraged. I'm sure not.
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>>8412666
>bigger issues
> "waaaah there was a criminal that got rightfully shot but I'm gonna complain because he shares my race!"
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>>8424793
so you have to have your own moment hijacked by black homophobes?
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>>8421619
ye,but creating an echochamber with only one type of opinion allowed in your group is shit tbqh
>>
>>8425069

Nigs 'gon nig.
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>>8393387
The alt-right doesn't have to do anything to attract me to fascism. Who else /yukiomishima/ here?
>>
>>8396187
>Theo van Gogh and Pim Fortuyn will never come back to life again
Makes me sad to be honest...
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