Why do the large majority of MTFs here tend to look down on HSTSes

>>8384071
Because HSTSes are no better than cis women, despite their male socialization.

>>8384073
but they're both better than agps and transbians tho

>>8384331
:^)

>>8384071
Because of jealousy. The straightest trannies are submissive and have high E. They are also more attractive on average.
Transbians are more similar to straight men. They have high test so they're attracted to the female form since they aren't feminine themselves. They tend to be bigger and more masculine. A lot of transbians are creepy degenerates who are either married or in a relationship already with a woman, then impose their sick lifestyle on them. They're usually old hons who are actually AGP crossdressers.

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>>8384378
HSTS aren't submissive, you're confusing not being an intrusive domineering man with that.

>>8384378
Transitioning is a "sick lifestyle"?

>>8384071
Why are they all flaring their nostrils like racehorses in heat?

>>8384402
It is if you have kids and a family to consider. If you're a single 20 something you can do whatever you want with your life. If you're transitioning as a 40 year old man, you're undeniably selfish and pathetic as fuck. Don't you agree?
>>8384391
Straight trannies tend to be more submissive and you can only be "trutrans" if you're a straight tranny. There's nothing more AGP than wanting to stick your dick in a female and ever doing that.

>>8384430
>you're undeniably selfish and pathetic as fuck.
Do you say the same to women who initiate divorces and tear their families apart if they have kids?

>>8384466
Yes, they are selfish too. So you agree with my point?

>>8384475
Nope, because an older transitioner can still be a good parent.

>>8384483
>stephonknee.bmp

>>8384487
And one single bad cis parent proves cis people are unfit parents too, right?

>>8384483
Imagine this: you're a straight cis woman who is into MEN. Your husband who you thought was a man claims to be a "woman" and wears ridiculous clown makeup and dresses in drag. He looks fucking ridiculous and embarrassing and a complete and utter turn off to you. You vowed to be with him forever and imposes this onto you while pathetically hiding it his entire life, while wasting yours.

Do you think anyone deserves to be put in that situation? People who do that are pathetic as fuck.

>>8384497
>vow to be with someone forever
>through thick and thin, illness and health
>decide you don't like them after all
But the problem must be with somebody else!

>>8384516
that's the most delusional thing I've ever heard anyone say. this is why people despise trannies. they're narcissistic and selfish pieces of shit.

>you have to be with someone no matter how creepy and disgusting they are, and live the rest of your life with someone you're not attracted to and don't love anymore
So with your logic, if you must be with someone through thick and thin, you would stay with a pedophile? You're pathetic for thinking someone should sacrifice all their happiness for your sake.

>>8384537
>that's the most delusional thing I've ever heard anyone say.
When you calm down maybe see if you can say why it makes you so angry?

>>8384544
Because you're so stupid and deluded. Your logic is so bad it's astounding and no one living in a first world country and able to use the internet should be this retarded.

>>8384549
>tfw I fall in love with people and not their bodies
feels good

>>8384071

I wondered something just now. Does anyone here think Eli's goal in the future is to become the first trans woman president of the United States?

I'm feeling threatened now. That's my dream, damn it.

>>8384549
Are you able to explain why something you disagree with is stupid and deluded and such bad logic and so retarded?

>>8384560
I don't see the problem with an AGP president. It's a cis woman or an HSTS that would be a mistake

>>8384516
the problem is that he has changed into somebody who is unrecognizable.
the problem is not with "somebody else" it is with him.
he thinks i can somehow turn into a lesbian overnight just because he's been beating off to tranny porn for the last 10 years and has brainwashed himself into thinking he's "pretty"

>>8384598
this

>>8384593
>if you're not shallow you must be ugly
Found a pic of your personality

>>8384602
it wasn't a matter of being shallow you delusional fucking retard. you could love an ugly fat man but be disgusted when he turns into an ugly creepy tranny hon piece of shit like yourself and forcing her to adapt to your degeneracy.

>>8384598
>>8384593
>If it's not obvious to you, you're an imbecile.
Ok, you can't explain it. I guess that's natural for what's a very emotive and instinctive, not rational, view.

She can still have sex with her wife.

>>8384615
you're fucking disgusting

Am I in a different universe? Why is every single person here retarded? Are you retards so selfish that you expect a woman to put up with you and have sex with you, knowing that she's not attracted to trannies?

Is there even one rational person left here that isn't insane or are all trannies just crazy fucks?

>>8384613
Except it is a matter of that. Love =/= sexual attraction, just fuck someone else.
>degeneracy
OH you're one of those kids

>>8384629
>if you're not a sex obsessed loser you must be ugly
I don't believe in marriage, it gets in the way of the reality of love. Your mind is about the size of your dick ain't it.

>>8384623
Yup anon, everybody but you is disgusting and retarded because they don't have the same irrational hatred of anyone who chases their dreams that you do.

>>8384636
you're an actual retard. anyone who isn't a moron would disagree with you. I'm not surprised at all that people despise trannies. They're all mentally ill, that's why they kill themselves so often.
>it's okay to ruin someone's life because I have a creepy disgusting fetish
ok retard

>>8384623
Naw bud you make sense.

I agree with what you're saying. If somebody gets married, has kids, etc, but then decides they want to transition after all, they should probably be on the worse side of the divorce.

It's basically false advertisement.

>>8384650
you must be the only not insane tranny here (if you are one)

>>8384615
>"""wife""""

>>8384655
Eh, kinda? I'm not transgender.
I take hormones and all that, stay smooth and such, but I wear guy clothes.
Pretty much just wanted a feminine body.

But yeah, lying to someone for years then expecting them to cater to you is bad juju.

>>8384651
>a tranny's dream is ruining everyone's lives and making their family and lover ashamed and creeped out
I get it, you're just some transphobe who wandered in.

>Your father must be disappointed in you.
He doesn't know I've transitioned because I barely see him since he and my mother divorced. Which screwed over our family far worse than transitioning has.

>>8384645
>if I'm not attracted to everyone I see my life is ruined

>>8384629
>‘SFfJSHLpY6iROV1hAbq8sg==’.
You shouldn't have outed yourself by posting images. You were banned while posting CP last time and the file proves so. You're evading 4chan ban, get out before you get another global.

>>8384071
I dont look down on HSTSs, I envy them. How they're so pretty and feminine, how they transitioned so young, how they can love men so naturally.

>>8384430
The idea of sticking my dick in a female or tranny is so wonderful, I'd hate to give that up just to be an ugly masc tranny. But the way AGP seems to work, one day I may have to transition.

>>8384497
This is why i'm thinking of just being a crossdresser hon so women know what they're getting themselves into.

>>8384391
But Cara you intrude into literally every conversation in a very domineering way...?

>>8384071
>HSTS
You're confused. People hate Blanchard fuckwits, which includes anyone who unironically uses terms like this. They have literally nothing against androphilic transsexuals.

>>8384893
>how they can love men so naturally.
Truandrophilia is impure and gross. Purest love is loving him for how feminine he makes you feel.

>>8385123
But love towards men is all about what they do for /you/, senpai!

I'm confused. As a newbie to /lgbt/, I'm not entirely sure what the perceived issue is with being a homosexual trans person? Why does it matter if a trans woman - a male of our species - if attracted to cis women? It makes total sense. You don't seriously believe all trans people were gay or lesbian when they still identified as cis, do you?

>>8385123
Well yes that too I guess. But I stand by >>8385119

>>8385171
Easier to just ask.

>>8385205
Then... don't answer?

>>8385165
HSTS MTFs are attracted to men. The HS comes from them being basically hyperfeminine gay men, not from their orientation as women post-transition.

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>>8384982
all of /lgbt/ is intruding on our space

>>8384071
>HSTS

Will 4chan ever quit using bigotted terminolgy for teh uber lulz XDD ?


This is not actually benefitting your mental health. It's a short term release of endorphins that leaves you more sore and angry afterwards, and generally only causes irritation in everyone reading your posts. It's an addiction.

>>8386244
it's not a joke

>>8386804
It IS a joke though.

>>8386903
nope

>>8384071
the answer is obvious :)

>>8387786
Nah yeah it's a joke though.

>>8384071
bc this place is mostly straight men larping as """lesbians""" under the banner of AGP and, as straight men, they hate "fags" (hsts).

>>8384571

My problem isn't with her being AGP. It's with her taking what I want. Of course, I'm not in any position to ever reach that.

>>8391796
Well what are your respective political views? At the end of the day that's the decider.

>>8391837

>implying a hon would get elected regardless of political views
>implying a hon would be able to pull together the motivation for a political career when the rest of her life is so shit
>implying a hon who hasn't done anything by 22 would be able to compete with an early transitioner (even if she's one of the worst-looking ones) who's been playing the political game since at least as far back as high school

Yeah, right.

>>8391796
Maybe you can be Eli's first lady!

Okay so if transbians are AGP and transgirls who like men are HSTS, what does being a bi transwoman make me?

>>8392189
An idiot who believes in pseudoscience.

>>8392189
It's not as simple as that but bi transwomen are AGP.