https://www.queerty.com/russian-newspaper-reports-26-gay-men-murdered-chechnyas-antigay-purge-20170525
Is there a scientific reason why gays are so hated?
ignorance = fear = hate
gay concentration camps dont exist
>>8343823
>thread
it's never women either is it? they always go for the guys
their entire reasoning is based on 'eugh, guys doing that is gross'
>>8344018
>always men who die
>"this is homophobic!"
We're a biological dead end.
>>8343810
no, gays are a result of evolution. homophobia is largely artificial.
gay men and women acted as a way to control population increase without detracting from their group's ability to survive.
gay men also served as bodyguards for the females/children, because there was no risk of them fucking the women while the men were gone.
and that's also why bisexuality exists. "don't worry gaiz, i'm gayyyyyy. leave me alone with the women, nothing will happen ;))))))"
lesbians also acted as second mothers, and took on some of the parenting responsibilities the biological mothers couldn't do or when the mothers were busy. on top of that, homosexual activity served as a means to bond with others within the tribe and prevent infighting.
>>8344018
chechnya is also predominantly muslim, so it's not like they ever cared about their sexual gratification anyway. and how could lesbian activity occur when all developed women are married and trapped?
>>8344043
And I bet you call the crap homophobes come out with pseudoscience :^)
>>8344052
it's not the type of thing that can be verified through testing like physics/chemistry hypothesis, but we can make reasonable inferences about the development of early human society based off of our current situation, natural inclinations, and comparisons with how other apes interact. i'm not saying my post is absolute 100% fact regarding the evolutionary history of homosexuality, but myself and many who are actually qualified to speak with some degree of authority agree that it, at the very least, is a reasonable inference based on the available knowledge. feel free to argue against what i said, or provide links to dissenting views
>>8344068
I'd just like to hear your actual reasons for inferring that.
>I'm not saying what I just said was true is true
...
>>8343810
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpUWEkhuqN4
>>8344107
tl;dr
unusual = disgusting = bad
people vary in what they think is unusual or how much "unusualness" is required before it becomes disgusting. People Some people dont make the disgust = bad connection. Just depends on your genetics, neurology, etc
>>8343810
>a scientific reason
>scientific
nazis are normally poor, uneducated white men who feel like society is against them because they don't have money or girlfriends.
they need someone to hate so that they feel better about themselves.
so they cling to some religion (opiate of the masses) and use it for guidance, in the same way that poor uneducated black men use islam.
just a few verses taken out of context gives them the excuses they need to feel superior to blacks, jews, gays and women and so they feel better about their sad empty lives.
>>8344086
sexual mimicry. "Sneaky copulation is a strategy used by many aquatic organisms who portray sexual mimicry. Several studies have found that small male fish will look and behave like the female of their species in order to gain access to female territory and copulate with them" from the wiki page on sexual mimicry.
similar behavior has been found in some mammals and birds, so it's not unreasonable to think a similar social development occurred within human society.
also: you need to learn the difference between confidence in a hypothesis and statement of absolute fact.
>>8344018
Gang of men 'assault group of lesbians in homophobic attack' in Portsmouth
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gang-of-men-assault-lesbians-homophobic-attack-portsmouth-a7697291.html
Five of the women sustained injuries and one of the victims was hit so hard she lost seven of her front teeth and her jaw was dislocated.
>>8344119
>comparing neo nazism to Islam
>>8344153
?
they are similar right wing ideologies
>>8344160
Bullshit, how many people have neo nazis killed?
>right wing
Trolling or willfully ignorant?
>>8344136
Wonder how many people get beaten up in Portsmouth every night but nobody cares because they aren't female.
Caucasians are sexy but subhuman
>>8344164
Hi, different Anon here.
>Bullshit, how many people have neo nazis killed?
This has literally nothing to do with ideological similarities.
Both Neo-Nazis and Salafist Islamists blame societal problems on LGBT, promiscuous women, secular values of tolerance and of course the jews.
>>8344185
As long as they aren't losing teeth, we're good!
>>8344196
You're right, they are ideologically similar. It's the danger from each that's incomparable.
>>8344158
holy shit, you're so fucking stupid it hurts.
literally the portion of the page i quoted was referencing it as a mating strategy, which would back up my point regarding the effectiveness of male bisexuality and femininity in passing on genes.
trans people, it would appear, have much more similar brain development to their gender identity than birth gender relative to cisgender people. it'd be significantly more reasonable to assume transness comes out of a difference between neurological development and physiological development.
and as to your last part, i attempted to clarify in my second post, but the specific wording of my first was because we're on a fucking scandanavian crossdressing blog and not in an academic setting. should i have worded myself more carefully? sure, but my second post was written a tad more seriously and i would have thought it was obvious enough for you
When a man and women have sex, they can create a child which is a beautiful thing. To create life. But when two men have sex they cannot do this; it is indulgent and an abomination.
This is why many religions shame sex outside of wedlock, for the purpose of recreation. Sex that is not in the interest of childbearing is indulgent and degenerate, and we could not produce children with each other even if we wanted to.
>>8344164
>Bullshit, how many people have neo nazis killed?
I said similar, not the exact same in every single way
dogs and cats are similar, it doesnt mean that cat = dog in every single way
>right wing
>Trolling or willfully ignorant?
... what do you think right wing means??
>>8344240
>I said similar, not the exact same in every single way
Granted.
>... what do you think right wing means??
There are countless things is could mean that don't cover your view, which I'm guessing is "Things I don't like".
>>8344043
what a load of shit. you dont have evidence for any of that.
>>8344258
> which I'm guessing is "Things I don't like".
thats certainly not how I use it
>Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics or tradition.
>>8344453
How is, say, socialism not a desirable social order and hierarchy in left-wing thought?
>>8344203
>men aren't losing teeth every night in every major city without anyone giving a shit
>>8344453
nazis = order is inevitable/desirable because natural law (aryan supremacy)
noe nazis = order is desirable because natural law / tradition (aryan supremacy, western traditions, white people)
islamist = order (sharia law) is desirable because (religious) tradition
>>8344481
communism is social order/hierarchy for egalitarian reasons (all people deserve equal pay and status)
anarcho-socialism is that but without the hierarchy/social order
>>8344639
By that definition anarcho-capitalism is left-wing.
>>8344662
>natural hierarchy because economics
>>8344826
>"hierarchy for egalitarian reasons"
>>8344857
I would say anarcho-capitalism is anti egalitarian in every sense of the word, anarcho-capitalist believe every man has different ability and should be rewarded in proportion to their natural ability
communism is unequal treatment for equal outcome
anarcho capitalism is equal treatment by society/government (or no treatment by govenrment/society) for unequal outcome
basically im trying to explain this picture
on left is what the left considers equality
on the right is what the right consider equality
i think english is very poor at defining this difference
ie i think we are having a semantic issue
>>8345015
>anarcho-capitalist believe every man has different ability and should be rewarded in proportion to their natural ability
It doesn't have to be conceived as different natural ability.
>communism is unequal treatment for equal outcome
Unequal treatment means social order and hierarchy and is inherently right-wing.
>anarcho capitalism is equal treatment by society/government
No social order or hierarchy, therefore left-wing.
Maybe you can offer terms and their translated definitions that explain the distinction between equality you count as left-wing and equality you count as right-wing?
Moslems are usually from low-IQ ethnies. This is compounded by centuries of customary dysgenic inbreeding.
>>8344119
>Chechnya
>White
>>8344196
The Jews have lobbied for mass immigration of homophobic cultures though.
>>8345015
helps if i actually attach the picture
>>8345073
>It doesn't have to be conceived as different natural ability.
it does though, if you deny that people are different you are just objectively wrong. Not everyone has 100 IQ exactly.
are you familiar with this?
https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2
also look at the picture i posted above, because
>on left is what the left considers equality
>on the right is what the right consider equality
>i think english is very poor at defining this difference
doesnt make sense w/o the picture
>>8345197
Obviously you aren't an anarcho-capitalist.
>picture
Actually in that picture on the euphemism "equity" is used for right-wing style social order and hierarchy. The creator admits it's not equality. "Equality" is only used for the one showing actual, left-wing, equality like anarcho-capitalists believe in.
>>8345213
>Obviously you aren't an anarcho-capitalist.
I have in no way indicated any preference for any political philosophy.
>>8345213
holy dicks i just realized i got the left and the right backwards on the picture
>>on RIGHT* is what the left wing considers equality
>>on the LEFT* is what the right wing consider equality
the actually text on the picture doesnt matter, its been used by the left to make fun of the right and the right to make fun of the left. They just fundamentally disagree on what equality means
>>8343810
If you're looking into a potential explanation outside of "Muh social construction", it would seem intuitive to me that homophobia would make it more likely you would reproduce if you were a raging faggot. It would encourage you to have babies and not get aids from fucking dudes out of pure self-hatred. The reason people criticise others homosexuality also makes sense, discouraging homosexuality in the population and especially your family would also help promote genetic success.
This might also explain why the most passionate gay bashers are always found to be fucking Hispanic busboys on the side. The more homosexual you and your family are, the more you benefit reproductively from self-hatred and hatred of your family.
I don't buy for a minute that anti-homosexual attitudes are entirely societal, they're definitely largely societal, but it seems like gay bashing has been a constant throughout history and across societies.
The introduction of birth control and antibiotics made gay bashing largely pointless because now straight people aren't breeding either and there is less concern about disease spread.
It should also be noted that many moral traditions, like Christianity, were against having sex outside of the purposes of procreation, with the bible even having a story against the withdrawal method.
Even if it didn't explicitly prohibit homosexuality, following this logic, being a buttpirate is pretty much the definition of having sex for reasons other than the purposes of procreation, and considering back in the day there wasn't good medical care it was liable to cause you to die of some disease.
In an evolutionary sense you could consider it unwise for societies, especially before the introduction of antibiotics, to promote buttpiracy.
>>8345301
>It's used by the right to make fun of the left
It's really not because that's a situation in which equity obviously makes the most sense. In the equality hypothetical the tall guy gets literally no benefit from standing on boxes at all.
>>8344043
>Gays are the result of evolution.
Then why have humans evolved to be mostly hetero?
There are explanations beyond "gays are good for evolution" for why gays have evolved. E.G. a gene might be very good for making women attracted to men, while having the side-effect of making men attracted to men, but be a net evolutionary benefit all the same.
Then again it could actually be the case that a minority gay population is good for the species, but one could also postulate that because homophobia is so common it's also an evolved trait and thus must have a benefit itself.
Moral of the story.
>if you have an unhealthy habit keep it on the low like a fucking human being and dont try to call it a lifestyle so you can do it in public and you are golden.
Inb4:dl people spread AIDS to their partners.Nobody will force u to be married just pretend ur a weeb like people have done for centuries.
Do you need a pride parade really nobody ever threw me a parade for fucking drunk chicks.
>>8344597
>waaah waaah men are so oppressed every day
There are hate crimes and then there are brawls between 1-3 drunken losers over something stupid like sports. This was like a group of maybe five lesbian women attacked by 15 full-grown men. Learn to see the difference.
>>8343810
Because Magneto was right. Humans have a tendency to hate and try to destroy the Other.
>>8345812
Magneto did nothing wrong
>>8344164
>>right wing
>Trolling or willfully ignorant?
Are you actually autistic or just underage?
>>8343810
Because cishets are violent savages who do not understand concepts such as compassion or empathy.
>>8343810
homosexuality is to many portrayed as weakening the nuclear family model, as well as gay men betray their own masculinity and thus fail to take their purposed role in society
also gay pride parades are blatantly fetishist and only fuels the idea that gay people are sex deviants with uniqe lifestyles differing them from straights. I completely understand many homophobes desu