In this time of tragedy it is really important to not buy into

Same goes for undocumented immigrants and how they're currently being treated like shit at Pride.

>>8334493
>"undocumented"
You mean the people living here illegally?

>>8334501
No one is illegal.

>>8334510
Living in a country illegally is somehow impossible to you?

>>8334510
Bullshit, Countries have a right to borders.

>>8334501
http://nohumanbeingisillegal.com/Home.html

>>8334520
Yes? You can't just declare that someone doesn't belong on a piece of land. Living where you want to is a fundamental human right.

>>8334535
Actually it's not. You're describing a squatter mentality. When squatters are evicted, no credible human rights organization makes a fuss. Similarly, when illegal immigrants are deported, no credible human rights organization makes a fuss. There are rules. Living illegally in the USA is unfair to those immigrants who follow the rules.

Why do people argue with obvious troll bait?

No matter how much you wish it were true, no tumblr-tier sjw feminists are getting so lost that they are winding up on 4chan and making threads like this.
And they certainly aren't doing it while using the same fucking OP pics over and over.

If you want to argue against this ideology so badly then make a fucking reddit account.

>>8334544
>i know that gasing the jews, gays and black people is bad but there are rules and it would be unfair for the aryans if we didn't

>>8334560
>Why do people argue with obvious troll bait?
Because it's an opportunity to circle-jerk.

>>8334592
>having borders is literally the holocaust
epic

>>8334592
You kind of jumped the shark with that post.

Roleplaying is no fun if you don't do it properly!

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>>8334592

>>8334607
What they said is Holocaust denigration and a form of antisemitism.

>>8334592
>gassing jews
>bad

>>8334592
I agree with you that no one is illegal but this argument is retarded and makes no sense what so ever.

>>8334824
>"I agree with you that a nation having actual borders just isn't fair, but don't make it so obvious we are clueless kids pls"
ftfy

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>>8334845
>muh national security.

>>8334879
A nation without borders is no nation at all.

>>8334888
EU member-states have free movement?

>>8334893
That is part of why Brexit happened. Nations don't like giving up parts of their sovereignty, including border control and legislative power. But I'm not here to talk about EU regulations, I'm here to talk about how important border security can be. Just imagine if the EU had an open border with Turkey... so, so many refugees would flood in. It would be a catastrophe.

>>8334912
Here's the problem with you people. You think something has to be black and white with no middle ground. An open border with Turkey could be a dangerous bet. The EU is what you call 1st world countries so there safe compared to Turkey and Iraq. Brexit only happened because of autistic conservatives having to turn everything into a race / religious issue. Also an identity issue because muh identity. (Also the labour party is run by a fucking tool) I can tell your clearly American and have never traveled to England to discuss why Brexit happened.

T. Britbong

>>8334932
I have a lot of family in England and Ireland. I have discussed Brexit with UK citizens and I have actually visited, though not since Brexit. There is a lot more to it than identity politics. It is about sovereignty. You cannot have laws determined by voters in your nation if you have unelected EU officials deciding your laws. But I am sure you will dismiss this as "autism", memelord.

t. Canadian

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>>8334912
>Just imagine if the EU had an open border with Turkey...

Not going to read the thread. Just dropping into to sage and say

KILL THE SAND NIGGERS
GAS THE KIKES
FEMININE PENIS SHALL PREVAIL
TOPMOST KEK

>>8334977
ok

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>>8334932
>An open border with Turkey could be a dangerous bet. The EU is what you call 1st world countries so there safe compared to Turkey

>>8334977
Don't do that

>>8334998
Try and stop me, I've got the Tomorrow theme on, we're on the darknet nigga

>>8334998
t.transphobe

>>8334483
anybody else going to the muslims against homophobia march?

>>8335080
i wouldn't go cause i like homophobia. btw is that actually happening or you're just memeing?

>>8335088
different anon here, it was obviously a meme no muslims would be at such a march

why like homophobia though?

>>8335093
>why like homophobia though?
He's probably Muslim.

>>8335124
Muslims on 4chan? now I've heard everything.

>>8334493
Illegals are worthless parasites that vote for anti white leftist statist politicians to bring in more illegals and to give them more welfare.
Fuck off you dumb fucking cuck.

>>8334510
Go deepthroat a chainsaw and tell your illegal bf to go deepthroat one too.

>>8335093
>>8335124
i just feel like fags have gone out of control and no im not muslim

>>8335171
>>8335194
>it's a samefag episode
also reminder that among newborns whites are already a minority so you lost already

>>8335232
Ahahahaha so that means you lost you retard.
You think 80 iq dindus and spics can run a first world nation?
Oh and not yet, if low iq nonwhites are removed the amount of white babies won't matter.

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>>8335224
I'm pretty sure it's straight people that are the issue, not fags.

>>8334493
>they're currently being treated like shit at Pride.

I haven't heard of this

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>>8335249
>white """"people""""

>>8335250
Which crimes does SA crucify you for?

>>8335250
>hurr look at me, western values are only values right guys

>>8335250
>no homosexuality or alcohol

wow what a bunch of buzzkills

>>8335277
>hurr look at me, cutting off hands for petty crime is SOOOOO much more civilized than those savage filthy westerners

You people can't even give an argument that isn't just "hurr nihilism meme looool XD nuffin matters so post modern it's all le lie like le cake". Cringeworthy by default. Back to Kekistan.

>>8335277
>hurr look at me, stoning gays is morally acceptable

>>8334493
pride has nothing to do with economic migration

>>8335277
t. degenerate oil prince

>>8335290
>degenerate
Fuck off back to /pol/

>>8335250
So glad these guys just got a $100 billion in weapons

>>8335308
fuck off back to saudi arabia

>>8335283
>>8335287
Then maybe bomb and torture them? That will teach those filthy brown people.

>>8335249
okay, whitay

>>8335271
Crucifixion is an option for any execution in SA, the method of execution is always at the discretion of the court iirc

>>8335277
>hurr, look at me, moral relativism!

>>8335250
um, saudi arabia is literally our ally, stfu

>>8335315
>America does it so all the sins we ever do are justified!

The soviets used this excuse in the 60's. It didn't work for them. It doesn't work for you. Enjoy barbarism because the other guy does it.

>>8335268
MRIs
The Internet
Computers
Antibiotics
Airplanes
Rockets
Cars
Modern fertilizer
Physics
Mathematics
Chemistry
Engineering
Computer science
Biology
Astrophysics
Geo physics
Radio
And pretty much the vast majority of inventions and discoveries, all by whites, white men to be specific.

You subhumans have contributed basically nothing to civilization and leech on whites and their accomplishments.
The only ones that are even remotely comparable are the East Asians.

>>8335283
>>8335319
moral relativism is the patrician choice

>>8335277
This. I'm gay and I don't care if Muslims kill gays in their countries. Literally, a non-issue.

>>8335331
it's literally a specific incarnation of a general logical fallacy

>>8335330
>wh*es
>inventing anything
You dipshit dicklets would still live in caves by your own.

Islam is a cancer on the principles of freedom

>>8335345
Aaaand you jumped the shark. It is now obvious you are white. Nice roleplaying.

>>8335328
Don't try to take the moral high ground, honey, your president himself said you're no better than anyone.

>>8335328
>it didn't work for them
Yes, we destroyed them for glory of capitalism, praise the dolar!

>>8335250
lately, fags have been acting so entitled and like they're above the law, though, a little more homophobia should set them straight

>>8335347
*tips fedora*

>>8334535
Where do you live? I have some friends that might move in.

>>8335337
Look at this tolerant liberal you guys, give him his good star and tendies

>>8335384
Oh i bet you would *love* to give me a gold star. Or a least a yellow one you fucking dipshit.

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>>8335330
How many of those have you contributed to?

>>8335384
I don't eat meat, faggor.

>>8335398
Ill give you one extra arm on that star, just for being extra special

>>8335360
>>8335353
>Two people who miss the point so hard it loops back around and stings them in the ass

All you're saying is the entire world is shit. Thanks for the update, jackasses.

>>8335402
Oh, he's a VEGAN liberal too! Isn't that just precious?

I bet you tell yourself you're making repentance for the white man's sins by not eating meat in your techno-utopian fantasy world powered by rare earth minerals and billions of chinese in factory sweatshops deforesting habitat by the hectare-load.

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>>8334510
>>8334534
Yes. Illegal immigrants are ILLEGALLY residing in the country. Trump is a fuckin moron imho but it always confused me why Americans were so pissy about Trump wanting to deport illegal immigrants. He's not even anti-immigrant, he just wants illegal immigrants out. Obviously. How could anyone have a problem with that? They're there illegally, a burden to society and not paying any tax.

>>8334535
They don't belong on a piece of land if they are not citizens of that country, or don't have a visa. You utter dumbfuck. Living where you want is NOT a human right. This is why you can't just go to some rando's house and live there. Cause it's THEIRS, not yours. Their land.

>>8334592
poor bait

>>8334824
why is it that you cannot seem to grasp the concept of illegal immigration? Were you dropped on your head? How the fuck can you say no one is an illegal

>>8334893
uh, irrelevant? the nations still have borders. They can leave the EU at any time. Like Britain is doing.

>>8335282
this is why they're so angry. this is why they blow shit up

>>8335277
the fairest and most equal values. Objectively.

>>8335315
nah, see, the problem is you don't bomb them. Saudi arabia is your ally. unless, of course, you were referring to ISIS, in which case, you don't think we should bomb them? You think what they do is ok? You are a disgusting subhuman?

>>8334483
>not buy into media narrative

What do you consider the media narrative to be?

>remember that bigotry has no place in our community no matter what.

By this you mean islamic beliefs, or anti-islamic beliefs?

It is not Islamophobia to note that Islam, as currently practiced around the world, is largely incompatible with Western ideals.

Of course, not all Muslim sects believe in enacting theocratic law in their governments, making homosexuality illegal, restricting women's rights, etc. But Sunni and Shia Islam, as practiced currently in most of the world, includes exactly those things.

It is not Islamophobic to believe Islam needs a fundamental reform from the ground up before we should start accepting it and defending the actions of its adherents. The argument that Christianity was also once bad isn't an argument, because we don't live in the Middle Ages, we live in the present.

So long as Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran, provinces like Chechnya and Aceh, continue to abuse human rights in the name of their religion, we need to look at that religion under a microscope and see whether most followers reject or embrace those human rights abuses.

When it turns out people in Egypt and Turkey, free to choose secular self rule, voluntarily give their rights to a religious state and/or tyrants running under the banner of abolishing secularism, what do you expect those same people with the same ideology would try to do if given the chance to reform new countries they go to?

There are lots of good Muslims out there who don't share these views. Most live in the US and have been fully Americanized. Some live in the UK, and other western nations. But they are not the ones who live in the Middle East, Indonesia, India, etc. So when we say "Western Muslims are good", it does not follow "So we should allow Eastern Muslims en masse". It's simply a non sequitir.

>>8334483
i'm gonna say here what i said on on /pol/ but no one listened because it clashed with their narratives.

The death of wahabism will come only when enough people hear about its alternative, Mutazillia.

it's actually undergoing a revival as a result of the terrorism, so im hoping once wahabaism is put in in place again, that they usher in the 2nd golden age. in stead of blowing up buildings and killing people, building taller buildings and making contributions to science.


if you dont know what mutazillia is watch these 2 videos (theyre short, and interesting):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guYMAycJgYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUx9NzzTz-0

>>8334483
i'm a male in a relationship with a female,but i'm questioning my sexuality as both a straight male and maybe leaning towards gay/bi furries...yet you fuckers sage me instead of giving advice

>>8336715
You've been spamming this on every related thread on here.

>>8336737
people spam their hatred, i spam a solution.

>>8336749
And likely have a social disorder.

>>8336754
and what "social disorder" would that be?

>>8336762
Idk, just obsessive posters are usually either on the autism spectrum or suffer from some sort of psychosis.

The fags are going to go flying off the roofs once Islam takes over the UK beyond.

>>8334529

An entity that is both mindless and imaginary does not have rights.

>>8335250

What the hell kind of rock is that, it looks like four rocks glued together. Maybe stoning people breaks down the weak rocks that can't handle such cruelty and thus clears space for the proliferation of four-lobed superrocks

>>8335282

They compensate, in part, by eating a lot. Saudi Arabia is one of the fatter countries out there.

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LBGTQ: "DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH"

ME: You do realize that Muslims, at best think of the LBGTQ as useful idiots and when they are done using your narrative. They will purge you!

LBGTQ: BIGOTED RACIST!!!!!!

how can you keep on supporting religious ideology that murders children?

>>8334483
lot of white folk in that pic

>>8340321
Why should my politics revolve around me being a faggot?

it's amazing to me that /pol/ hasn't gone full Esoteric Kekistani Islamist yet

radicalism is typically fluid, so I wonder what the barrier is

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>>8336681
you are a moron. this is a modern day and christianity is just as it was in the renaissance in africa. The reality is islam being evil has more to do with the local culture. to say that you can compare islam to christianity one to one is wrong, but so too is it retarded to believe that an entire broad sect is against something. Sects like sunni and shia only seem monolithic from outside. inside they are fractured and hold their sway through power perpetuation and conservative men like any group.

Here is a more accurate chart displaying the relative attitude of muslims towards gays.

>>8340359
racism. muslim is the sand nigger religion. thats all that needs to be said, also pedo memes (because every girl was of "age" in the bible kek). Its really nothing more than racism and a pre existing hatred. plus some of them are actually born in the wool christfags.

>>8336734
cause everyone gets sick of hearing "GUYS HELP ME TELL ME WHAT MY SEXUALITY IS HURR DERR", it's really not that fucking hard. if you're attracted to males and females, you're bi. If you're attracted to both genders but would never think of doing anything with one of those genders, you're still bi, but may as well not tell anyone cause it doesn't fucking matter. if you like certain parts of one gender but not others, you're still probably bi, as long as you're still sexually attracted to both. if you like only certain types men or women, you're still bi. if you like furry shit you should probably kill yourself, but your fetishes are your own. what fucking "advice" do you want?

>>8334483
They would all be dead living under islamic state

>>8334483
why are you defending a religion that wants you dead

>>8340363
>Only shows US churches

>Crazy African Christians
We shouldn't let them in either.

>>8340363
>The reality is islam being evil has more to do with the local culture.

Yes. And that's fine if you let a few already moderate Muslims in at a time to culturally assimilate. It's not fine to let large swaths of poor and socially conservative Muslims into your country at a time because instead of assimilation, you get ghettoization and a development of a distinct culture.

That distinct culture does not grow to accept gay people, and will attempt to enact more political power in the future.

But all that's to say that the post you replied to simply said Islam should be criticized as a whole because most Muslims in the world practice a type of Islam that is exclusive to homosexuals.

And for the life of me, I can't understand how going "but a small minority of Muslims in x part of the world are tolerant" is a rebuttal to that argument.

It seems to be predicated under the assumption that the west is more "enlightened" and that naturally the Muslim world will also move in that direction, and that's naive.

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>>8335668
> How could anyone have a problem with that?
Illegal immigration exists because legal immigration is often near impossible unless you're an extremely valuable specialist, marry a citizen of that country, or are young enough to get education there.
So a lot of people resort to illegal immigration just to escape their shitholes of a country.

>>8341335
Sucks to be them. Still shouldn't be allowed in

>instead of helping their country with people who lives there we let 0.01% of them into our country and ditch the rest :D

>>8341376
Why? Far more Americans benefit from the cheaper labor of the underclass than suffer from it.

>>8341376
Yeah, but maybe countries should make it easier for foreigners to move in legally if they are willing to work hard, be functioning members of society and assimilate into the culture of the target country.

>>8341376
Or the US could kick out low fruit like yourself.

>>8341393
They can do their cheap labor in their home country, their American bosses can go there to manage them, and their cheap goods can be imported.

The only problem is the fact their countries aren't run in a way that allows this to happen properly. So the solution is to fix their countries, not bring them to ours.

>>8341407
>Fix their countries
Foreign companies coming in and paying their citizens nothing and delivering all profits to their home nations to exactly a good deal for the locals.

Moreover, what you're advocating is specifically what people like Trump oppose: offshoring of labor.

>>8341431
Sentence fragment.

I disagree with Trumpists on that.

>>8341451
But you haven't said why offshoring is better than importing cheap labor.

>>8341491
Cultural security.

>>8341431
Trump employs illegal immigrants you stupid fucks.
Why these hicks think a New York liberal internationalist is on their side is beyond me.
All people like Trump care about is enriching themselves and gaining power, that's the only reason he ran for president.
He doesn't give a shit about you, he loves and has benefited from illegal immigration and he couldn't give a fuck about making America great again because his sole interests are in making more money for himself, now he's achieved the ultimate political power.

>>8334483
what the fuck? the media narrative is exactly what you are proclaming in the 2nd part of that sentence?
are you retarted?
oh this is /lgbt/, sorry. Of course you are.

>>8341529
You forgot to mention that he's an idiot to boot.

Still better than Hillary.

>>8341529
>Trump employs illegal immigrants you stupid fucks.
Any proof?

>>8341544
http://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/
How do you not know this?

>>8341542
I don't think he's an idiot, he's very smart, that's why he won the election.
He doesn't believe in most of the things he promised to win the election, but unlike Hillary he was intelligent enough to know how to manipulate the people.

>>8341667
Being able to manipulate people isn't smartness. It's skill.

>>8341682
It's a skill that definitely requires some degree of intelligence, particularly if you're fat and ugly.

>>8341724
I mean, ok, emphasis on "some degree".

>>8341682
Of course it's a form of intelligence.
Stupid people can't manipulate, especially an entire nation.

>>8341745
You have to at least have above-average iq. Probably like 115 minimum.

>>8341767
Unskilled people can't manipulate an entire nation. Intelligence doesn't come into it.

>>8341783
Idiots can have 115 IQ.

>>8341783
>implying IQ scores are a good measure of intelligence

>>8341806
The best we got, chucklefuck.

>>8341783
IQ is unreliable since it only measures one's capability to solve very specific tasks, while intelligence in general has a very broad application and is hard to define precisely.

>>8334535
its.. literally not

>>8341829
>cop out

>>8341843
>measures one's capability to solve very specific tasks
more like measures one's capability with quickly processing the spoken word

there's a time limit on your responses

this is why cultures with languages more complex than English (like China and Japan) score so high, and cultures with the simplier language score so low

>>8341861
Well idk what you want me to say instead. How do YOU measure intelligence?

IQ may not be perfect, but it's certainly correlated enough with intelligence that it's safe to assume someone with an IQ of 120 is smarter than someone with an IQ of 90.

>>8341897
I'll take hypotheses without empirical basis for 300, Alex.

>>8334510
Their stay in a specific place is however.

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>>8335232
>whites are a minority
Wait wasn't the left all about protecting minorities? What happened?

>>8341335
Here's a nice idea, what about fixing immigration through LEGAL means? There are countless people who want immigration on the US to be better, why don't they do pressure on the politicians to change the laws instead of opting to support law breaking people.

>>8334483
>trying to find out what i am
>join lgbt group
>become friends with everybody there (99% ftm)
>every time trump or brexit or anything right wing is mentioned it's immediately UUUUUUUUUUUGH
>can't say anything
Feels bad man.

>>8342725
you mtf?

>>8341910
IQ tests are a meme around here

>Niggers perform poorly on IQ test
>See? Niggers are subhuman. Nelson Mandela was the bad guy all along. The Apartheid was right. Martin Luther King is America's biggest liar. Race war now
>Jews and Asians perform better than whites on IQ tests
>IQ test isn't a accurate measure to intelligence

>>8342775
I've literally never seen someone say that. /pol/acks either fully acknowledge IQ is flawed, or they accept that Jews and Asians are smarter than whites.

But you're being retarded even from a non-/pol/ack perspective. Of course comparing across cultures is going to yield faulty results. Comparing within cultures is valid.

>>8342704
Because USA want its cake and eat it. They want to exploit third world nations, force them to accept globalism even if it mean to bomb them or organize coup d'etats but also they don't want the empoverished population to travel to USA after becoming a colony de facto. Hell, since Trump took the office, he has been renegociating the trade deals with the Latin American nations because they have some clauses about immigration, basically for maintaning all the free trade advantages in favor of America but none of the bones thrown to the latino nations.

>>8342791
Acknowledging jews are smarter than whites is the same to acknowledging they deserve to rule over the whites because /pol/tards base their rethoric on meritocracy, where the white male is the king of creation as designed by God himself but he (anon-kun) is pushed down by jews and their allies, feminists and niggers. The jew is a parasyte while Asians lack creativity because that's an exclusive trait of white males.

>>8342808
Why do you think /pol/ is one person?

>>8342821
Why do you think tumblr is one person?
Why do you think /a/ is one person?
Why do you think the muslisms is one person?
It's about the average

>>8342704
LOL so basically open borders for low iq welfare scum?
Fuck off.

>>8342775
>Nelson Mandela was the bad guy all along.
Not agreeing with the IQ thing but this is true.

>>8342839
I don't? I don't even fucking go to /pol/. Fuck off with your constant strawmaning, kid.

>>8342937
You just discovered what arguing with SJWs is.

>>8342738
Really just more of an occasional crossdresser leaning towards gay. But I get what you're saying. I used to be really /pol/ but I'm way more socially liberal now.

>>8342984
So? Do you think I don't also argue with them?

Jesus Christ.

>>8334592
>he doesnt want to gas the jews
uhhhhhh?