Crossdressing+browsing /tttt/+sissy fetish+erotic hypnosis+extreme

I "cross dress" every day tbqh.

t. eternal boymode mtf

Go see a therapist Anon.

>>8317194
are you on hrt? do you get weird looks?

>>8317170
stop that shit and sort your life out, you silly girl
I've been there and its very unhealthy for your brain

you might be seriously AGP and need to see gender doctor, check into AGP thread for better advice

>>8317216
not OP but I can't even get a regular therapist, let alone one that's gonna be down to hear me talk about how I watched tons of hypnosis porn as a teen and now I think I'm trans

>>8317236
Is it AGP if you crossdress non-sexually? I wear womens clothes underneath my mens clothes in public but it doesn't turn me on it just makes me more comfortable.

>it's another "AGP tranny starts diving deeper and deeper into the weird fetish rabbit hole in order to deal with her dysphoria and avoid getting the medical treatment she needs" episode

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>>8317236
>you silly girl

>>8317275
>I wear womens clothes underneath my mens clothes in public but it doesn't turn me on it just makes me more comfortable.
Yes that's very AGP. Contrary to popular belief AGP isn't just sexual. That comfort from feeling feminine is AGP too.

>>8317365
Autogynephilia is entirely arousal based, though. Is the difference finding being feminine comforting vs. finding the idea of being masculine upsetting?

>>8317365
>Yes that's very AGP. Contrary to popular belief AGP isn't just sexual. That comfort from feeling feminine is AGP too.
...no it isn't, otherwise all transsexuals would be AGP.

>>8317422
>otherwise all transsexuals would be AGP.
Well,

>>8317384
>Autogynephilia is entirely arousal based, though.
It's not, not any more than being gay is arousal based. There is that but there's other things too, in that example romance and companionship, which correspond to the AGP comfort of being feminine.

>Is the difference finding being feminine comforting vs. finding the idea of being masculine upsetting?
No, although I think being comforted by being feminine without being upset by being masculine (at least much of being masculine) is common for AGPs. But it's not definitive.

An AGP can be comforted by being feminine even when she isn't perceived that way, by dressing in private or underneath her boymode clothes. An HSTS wouldn't find those comforting the same way. She would want to present feminine and secret femininity doesn't help that.

>>8317422
Find me an HSTS who wears girl clothes under boymode.

>>8317473
>HSTS
Oh, you're one of those retards.

>>8317508
Oh you're backing out of your pretend AGP expertise.

>>8317473
AGPs simply grew up without a support network.

The only reason AGPs don't know what they want is because they don't think they are allowed what they want.

We would all be like Corey Maison if our parents were open with their own gender dysphoria instead of forcing us to repress it the way they did.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4134008/amp/Mom-transgender-girl-reveals-living-MAN.html

If corey grew up in an oppressive environment she'd no doubt be posting on /tttt/ one day about buying hrt from india and wearing girls clothes discretely in boymode.

>>8317546
No, it's a fundamental difference in the kind of need to be female that leads to dressing in private.

>>8317546
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4134008/Mom-transgender-girl-reveals-living-MAN.html

Fixed link

>>8317216
My mother went to one behind my back and they recommended me to go there so that I could get conversion therapy for my crossdressing fetish, they said I had developed it because of my fear of socializing and getting a gf.

That said when a professional psychiatrist uses the failed male hypothesis I'm pretty sure they don't deserve any credibility. Living in a 3rd world country ftw...

>>8317629
What was the conversion therapy?

>>8317696
No clue, he just said it was curable

>>8317559
No, the vast majority of AGPs note wishing they were girls at a young age. Their environment causes them to internalize hatred and shame for that desire. Instead of lashing out at the world like Hsts they shut it away deep inside only for it to come out later in life

>>8317629
That failed male shit sounds purely Freudian, don't let it invalidate you anon

>>8317984

Hello, are you AGP ? Only AGP say that "the vast majority of AGP note wishing they where girls at young age"

AGP has 10,841,224,974 different symptoms.

>>8317984
I'm AGP and that's entirely untrue. Most AGP are GC and their transness begins in late puberty, early adulthood or when they're middle aged men.

>>8318063
Most of AGP would have responded that. You are an AGP. AGP.

>>8317984
AGP are gender conforming or mostly gender conforming HSTS are by definition GNC. Your post whitewashes this.

>>8318113
Gender conforming for the reasons I specified yes

>>8318249
no

>>8318249
No, the differing gender conformity comes first and the different ways of handling it follow from that.

>>8318063
I dunno most people with agp seem to say they started fapping to fantasies of being a girl at a pretty young age.
I wasn't exactly the most gender non-conforming but I certainly recall having agp fantasies at a very young age. That's kind of how I started with anal play. If you ask in agp-gen you'll hear the same stories, it's pretty rare for people to start fantasizing about that stuff in late puberty or after puberty, usually begins pre-puberty or the start of puberty.

>>8317365
>autogynePHILIA
>not purely sexual
are you retarded anon

>>8317422
now you're gettin' it

>>8318063
>I'm AGP and this one anecdote of mine will surely prove you wrong in general

AGP just means "people who aren't real trans like me."

You literally can't prove me wrong.

>>8318644
>AGP just means "people who aren't real trans like me."
"I'm AGP"

>You literally can't prove me wrong.
Just did bitch.

>>8317422
>all transsexuals would be AGP
truth

>>8318720
stockholm syndrome

>>8318626
Stop it. Being deliberately stupid is unbecoming.

>>8317284
>diving deeper and deeper into the weird fetish rabbit hole

>OP image looks like Alice

Freudian desu.

>>8318604
Actually I said that trans feelings begin at late puberty/adulthood, but you are correct, AGP starts at early puberty at around 10 years of age.

>>8318887
I'm confused. Is AGP bad or accepted?

AGP is just a fetish, like a foot fetish. That is all.

>>8318909
In my view AGP creates transness through prolonged conditioning (whenever I see myself as feminine I feel sexual pleasure therefore femininity is good and masculinity is bad; sexual pleasure generates positive emotions which are correlated to femaleness.)
It also plays with the sense of self, for example, part of the pride of a Chad is his sexual dominance and dominant desires, his pertaining to the male order by being straight, an AGP by having a sexuality that is female-like feels conflicted with his normal male identity. In order to eliminate this tension, many agps transition.

The conditioning theory and the conflicting identities theory explain the temporal gap between agp and the emergence of dysphoria

>>8318973
I have no idea whether I wanted to transition before I was 10. So now I don't feel proper cis and I don't feel proper saying I'm not cis. What the fuck

AGPs are bigender.

>>8319010
You need to get dicked the fuck out m8

>>8319032
I'd need a qt bf first. I'm not going to fall for the "go suck some guy on craigslist's dick" meme. I don't want sex I want a relationship

>>8319039
A relationship where you get dicked out

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>>8319025
explain?!

>>8319051
I mean eventually

>>8319010
If you don't know then you didnt, unless someone hit you in the head with a beer bottle or something

>>8319091
I barely remember my childhood, especially pre-puberty.

>>8319150
That's sad, why not?

>>8319160
Just wasn't that memorable.

>>8318604
Yep for me it started because I would fantasize about being a lesbian which started around age 11. I actually wanted to transition so I could be a lesbian when I grew up, but I managed to repress that desire for a long time.

>>8318973
This also explains why failed male AGPs are so common nowadays, they have less to lose by transitioning. They're significantly less masculine to begin with so it's easy to rationalize that as proof of being trans, also easier to adapt to being a woman.

>>8319150
I can barely remember my life and i'm 32, I think it's just how i'm wired, essentially borderline amnesia. Sometimes the memories will flow if something triggers them.

>>8317517
The typology is not backed by any major mental health organization. Both APA, who write the DSM, and WPATH, who write the SoC, have deemed it to be untrue. So, speaking of expertise.. none of the experts believe it!

>>8318909
agp is trans

>>8317231
not that poster, but I'm in the same situation
yes and yes

>>8318604
GG anon, you hit the nail on the head.

It sounds like the sissy videos worked desu.

Isn't this what you wanted?

>>8320412
Maybe sissy videos can really work.
I think I'm a partial agp.
I masturbate to agp fantasies all the time.
However, I also like men. I'm really into being dominated by a man, no matter how I look or how I'm dressed.
Would date a man also.

I used to repress my tranny feelings and I called it a fetish. That's why I had post-orgasm regrets.
Now I'm starting to be more open to tranny-ness and view it as something ok.
I've been thinking about transition a lot recently in a non sexual way.
Now I no longer have post-cum regrets.
What does this mean, I don't know, but I do consider myself a tranny.

>>8320508
>I masturbate to agp fantasies all the time.
>However, I also like men.
That's still AGP. It's pseudobisexuality. You don't necessarily have to look or be dressed feminine for pseudobi to apply. You just need to be able to feel like a girl, which for some AGPs takes looking and dressing, but what you say about being dominated suggests is still your orientation.

Being open to tranny feelings and not repressing them might be at work. Did you not feel attracted to men without feeling feminine ahead of time until then?

>>8320412
they just push you over if you already had these feels and fantasies
for most normal people its just fap and forget (and most of it is just trash porn anyway, Id rather watch something sensual I could self-insert)

>>8320673
I like guys way more than AGPs usually do. In fact, I would much rather have a good bf than a gf.
I don't have much interest in having sex with women. They're just kind of cute, I just wanna cuddle with them and suck on their boobies.
I've been very attracted to multiple real life males and almost had sex with one.

The thing is, I do have strong AGP feelings, but I am not a pseudobisexual.
Blanchard and Lawrence think stories like mine are fake, because they disprove their theory.
I also want to be girly in non sexual ways.

This is all complicated. I will say this again, because it's imoortant:
I AM NOT A PSEUDOBIEXUAL

>>8320699
I don't think it's fake. It's just really high-res pseudobisexuality.

None of what you say about preferring a bf, being uninterested in sex with women or being attracted to irl males can't be pseudobi. It's just less common that the typical pseudobi examples we hear.

>I also want to be girly in non sexual ways.
That's AGP too.

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>>8320714
>high-res pseudobisexuality.

ffs its only pseudo if its to validate your femininity

>>8320714
I'm not really sure about that.
I have always loved penises and dominant men.
I can't even get hard imagining I'm fucking a woman. Vaginas just don't interest me.

So, are you saying AGPs are legit trannies or what?

>>8320730
Exactly, thank you.
I once almost convinced my manly friend to let me suck his dick. I used to touch it through his pants and he was kinda getting into it. I didn't imagine I'm a woman or anything, the focus was on dick.

>>8320730
That's compatible with anon's account. As long as they see themselves femininely enough they wouldn't need to specifically imagine being a woman for pseudobisexuality to shine.

>>8320734
But you get hard imagining being a woman? That's the AGP gynephilia and sex with a woman isn't required for you to be AGP and pseudobi.

>So, are you saying AGPs are legit trannies or what?
That's neither here nor there.

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>>8320747
Nice mental gymnastics there. Everythung just to prove trannies are AGPs. You wouldn't give up this theory, no matter what.

>>8320779
No actually, plenty of trannies aren't AGP, and if you're >>8320734 then it's possible you aren't. I'd like to hear what your AGP fantasies are to be sure.

>>8320821
My agp fantasies include everything pretty much. From erotic feminine behavior to being extremely dominated by a man as a woman. I like all kinds of agp things.

All I'm really claiming is that agp is not a pure separate thing.
I can suck a man off without any femininity.
I think agp is a part of a bigger picture and that not all agps are pseudobisexuals.

Also, I don't always get turned on by the thought of being a woman, just in erotic/sexual ways.

>>8320853
>All I'm really claiming is that agp is not a pure separate thing.
Separate from what?

>I can suck a man off without any femininity.
You mean without any extra femininity like dressing up or roleplaying as a girl. But if you see yourself as feminine enough in general then you wouldn't need anything extra for your AGP pseudobi to be in effect.

>I think agp is a part of a bigger picture and that not all agps are pseudobisexuals.
What bigger picture? Yes some AGPs are transbians/just into women and others are just into men out of pseudobi despite being in their heart gynephiles.

>Also, I don't always get turned on by the thought of being a woman, just in erotic/sexual ways.
Please give specifics, like being extremely dominated?

>>8320883
Separate from other "forms" of trans-ness, separate from sexuality...
You're just going by the blanchard's model. You know that sexualities and gender identity can get pretty weird.

No need for femininity to suck a man off, I just like dicks, get over it.

The same way some people are straight, some bi, some gay, it is possible to have agp tendencies without being a standard blanchardly agp.

When I imagine just being a woman in a woman's body, I feel good about myself, I feel like that is the honest way of presenting myself.

I get turned on by the thought of doing anything erotic or sexual as a woman. No need for specifics, the whole package.
That's why I most often watch straight porn.

>>8320925
>Separate from other "forms" of trans-ness, separate from sexuality...
>You're just going by the blanchard's model. You know that sexualities and gender identity can get pretty weird.
Ok but what you described is consistent with Blanchard's model. He said that the "forms" of trans-ness, A*P and HSTS, are separate.

>>8320965
I claim they can be together.
Some people are straight, some gay and some are BI.
The same way it's possible to be HSTS and AGP.
And please don't give me that pseudobisexual bs. Some are pseudobisexuals.
I however know that I am not.
It is very subtle, only I can tell what it is in my case.
I think when I transition I will be even more into men.
What blanchard described seems to be a very shallow attraction, only liking men for what they do to your feminine body. That is not the case for me.
As far as I know, almost all "agps" end up being transbians. They don't like men at all, they just like what they do to them as a feminine person in sex. After sex, they don't want to be with a man anymore, I do.

>>8321003
>The same way it's possible to be HSTS and AGP.
HSTS is being an effeminate gay. AGP is a straight male orientation switched around. How can those go together?

>I however know that I am not.
>It is very subtle, only I can tell what it is in my case.
Ok so how do you know you aren't? Because nothing you've said so far has suggested you aren't.

>I think when I transition I will be even more into men.
This is archetypal pseudobi.

>What blanchard described seems to be a very shallow attraction, only liking men for what they do to your feminine body. That is not the case for me.
Where did you read that? That's not so. Pseudobi can be every part of a relationship, love and affection, romance, cuddling after sex. All those things can enhance the feeling of femininity that AGP is the longing for.

>As far as I know, almost all "agps" end up being transbians.
There are huge numbers of (pseudo)bi AGPs.

>>8321057
Straight + gay = bi (possible)
HSTS + AGP = some trannies (possible)
It doesn't have to be pseudo bi.
It can be regular bi, but the attraction for females is centered on oneself.

You just keep hammering your opinions, without considering this.
I still like men, with no femininity, with no thought of femininity, with nothing. Just a dude, his dick and my hairy masculine body. That's enough.

>>8321094
Please answer my questions.

>>8321057
>HSTS is being an effeminate gay. AGP is a straight male orientation switched around. How can those go together?
The same way straight guys can be effeminate and gay guys can be straight acting. So bisexuals can be both. A bisexual could enjoy his feminine side (agp) while separately enjoying cis sexuality. I'm bi so I have an agp and aap side. Why would a gynephilic pseudobi want to top men? How would dominating a man validate my femininity? Im attracted to men for their beauty, just like with women,i love the contours of a sexy physique. Im attracted to good looking faces of either sex whether they appear masculine or feminine. Agp is a kink that enhances the attraction rather than being the source of it. Thereforr I'm not pseudobi because my androphilia comes first, yet im still gynephilic and autogynephilic, so im not HSTS either.

Or am i instead an aap hsts whose gynephilia comes from affirming his masculinit? So when my pseudoagp turns me on its only doing so via firing up my male libido, to dominate my pseudo feminine self, inorder to validate my inner aap fueled masculinity?

I can see how for biphobics, roleplaying as the girl lets them express their homosexuality without feeling bad for being gay.

>>8321229
>Why would a gynephilic pseudobi want to top men?
Dominant male sexuality and lack of the homophobia that prevents straight guys from liking twinks.

>How would dominating a man validate my femininity?
You're AGP and bi male combined. No HSTS.

>>8321057
>HSTS is being an effeminate gay. AGP is a straight male orientation switched around. How can those go together?
It is possible because the typology isn't real and AGP is just a fetish.

>>8321396
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I've never really had an actual sexual fantasy, i enjoy cross dressing and when I've masturbated its never been imagining sex, Just to the general sexiness either of me dressing up, or the idea of being forced to dress up.

Never really been interested in sex. Experimented wth anal and getting pegged, but its not really that enjoyable to me, i only tried it because i wanted to see if it was something i enjoyed.

I don't have a sex drive, and I believe im asexual due to the lack of interest in any sex. I just thought people exaggerated how much they talked about sex, but the stores of failed relationships have lead me to believe I'm the defective one.

>>8323127
That's called anallosexuality -- lack of sexual attraction to others. It's because you're AGP and your sexuality is focused internally on yourself.

>>8323165
Never heard of the term, minimal results on goggle.

Guess that explains my high self-esteem, i am a sexy beast.

t. 6'4" red neck who enjoys acting like a faggot on occasions

>>8323336
High self-esteem is probably a coincidence. Plenty of AGPs don't have it.

quick question, haven't been here in a while because UNI, what's /tttt/?

>>8323483
This board, /tttt/ - Transgender, Transgender, Transgender, & Transgender.

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>>8323483
this board, cause its mostly trains

>>8323567
oh.

hah.

>>8323586
but i'm glad i'm agp!

>>8323586
I'm AGP scum, Blanchard

>>8323676
>>8323684
You'll be fine, girls.

Fresh from Blanchard twitter
http://mirandayardley.com/en/pornography-and-autogynephilia-in-the-narratives-of-adult-transgender-males/

>>8323782
>Anyone who knew me growing up knew that I was fascinated with women. I was the first of my friends to think that Playboy was a must-have magazine; I even remember begging my mom to buy me a copy for my 10th birthday!
>for my 10th birthday!

>>8323357
How can one be attracted to them self and not feel awesome all the time? And think well of themself?

I hate myself as a person (not dysphoria, i know all the shitty things I've done, and its been alot of really shitty things i don't forgive myself for) but i know I'm awesome, so i Just ignore the things i dislike and have a great time. And if i don't think highly of myself, who else will?

>>8325803
cause you look nothing like your ideal (female)
duh

>>8326168
But i love being a guy 99%of the time, sure it sucks that i am not a size 0 with c cups when i play dress up, but if i was id likely whine about being small, no one taking me seriously, periods, the effort involved in being a girl every day ect. I love being able to do almost anything without assistance, rolling out of bed and being good to go in 30 minutes and the way no on really fucks with me even when I'm being a faggot, because i'm 6'4" (without heels)

Im rather happy as myself, the only things that make me feel shitty is the shitty unforgivable things I've done to ppl in my 31 years on this planet, none of which are related to my image of myself.

You should get off porn and stop being weak minded

>>8326235
I am almost your age and also a physically masc AGP. I can agree that being a man has some nice advantages, although I really sucked at being a man when younger, so probably would of been cool with womanhood. If you want to see ciswomen whine about being women go to r/gendercritical, female equivalent of r9k imo.

>>8326820
>I can agree that being a man has some nice advantages,
what?

r9k are right that being male sucks. cis women just whine

>>8317567
How can someone have six kids and marry before realizing they're trans

>>8327048
same way my roommate I college had a gay dad. Some ppl take longer tip figure themselves out

>>8326872
Only thing that sucks About being a dude is the lack of choice in clothing, and i don't play by the rules So i get all the choices, in my personal time, i can't weary women's clothes to court and most clients don't want a weirdo for their attorney, though ive run into other attorneys while I'm out having fun, but there's work and there's fun and most people understand that.


Yeah i can't pull out every look because my shape and frame, but neither can every real girl. Though i do wish i could wear more dresses, but they aren't that practical, how hard is it to add sone Goddamn pockets.

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I think my desire to dress, act like, and have sex as a girl is just an extension of my masochism. When I first started having sexual desires it was to me being dominated by a woman, although I didnt start masturbating until 18; shortly thereafter I started with the sissy stuff. In the hypothetical would you press the button to turn into a girl or start over as one I would say no. But I'm still intrigued by being feminine, submissive, and being dominated.

I notice now that I make an effort to go out more and talk to women it kills a lot of these desires, but I still have the occasional relapse. Will these thoughts ever go away? And why might I have developed these thoughts?

>>8327332
AGPs are almost always extremely submissive and masochistic.

>>8327260
>Only thing that sucks About being a dude is the lack of choice in clothing,
ok you're an idiot

>>8327397
so are HSTS
so why make the distinction?

>>8327526
I don't think an HSTS could see her desire to be female as an extension of her masochism. For her it would be the other way around.

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>>8327440
Nope, I'm just awesome. And envy the fact females have choice of all clothes for both genders, while males for the most part only get clothes from their gender. That's all i really want, just the cute clothes.

I am a white American male, 99%of the time i wouldn't want too be anything else because i win the lottery on awesomeness

>>8327748
you have no idea of all the reasons people don't want to be guys so you assume there aren't any besides fashion

the world isn't just you

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>>8317170
>tfw can turn it on and off

feels p good, maybe it's cause I have a low self-esteem anyway though so I will probably never go out of my way to do stuff. Also hypno is fucking cringey as hell, I can't take any of that stuff seriously.

I can take the degrading aspects of it as a turn on but the whole "you're not a REAL man xDD" sort of thing just goes over my head desu. Like it's a turn on to be told it (by certain people, not just anyone) but I don't actually take it seriously at all

>>8327790
Yeah I dont even feel ashamed when I cum anymore. I can still masturbate to regular stuff too, it just feels so good to give in.

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>>8327891
Just accepting you're a big ol' pervert makes it easier really. I mean, as long as you keep it to yourself there's literally no downsides. If you start going around and doing weird shit in public you kinda deserve to feel ashamed about it. But as long as what you're doing isn't illegal or hurting anyone (without their consent anyway) then you've got nothing to feel bad about. Everyone gets their kicks their own way.

>>8327782
Did say i was speaking for anyone else? Because i didn't believe i was, im speaking for myself.

Stop being a faggot.

>>8326872
>but if i was id likely whine about being small, no one taking me seriously, periods, the effort involved in being a girl every day ect. I love being able to do almost anything without assistance, rolling out of bed and being good to go in 30 minutes and the way no on really fucks with me even when I'm being a faggot, because i'm 6'4" (without heels)

>>8317984
Seems true in my case.

>>8318063
Can't paint us all with the same brush.

>>8318909
AGP DNE IRL

>>8327561
Should? No.
Could? If she didn't want to accept her identity or was not especially dysphoric, I could see it.

>>8326235
well good for you then
being a man has lots of advantages no dispute,
but most of AGPs have dysphoria at least periodically and dislike their male features

on top of that this is considered a degenerate fetish and boys are punished for being non-manly - which inevitably contributes to psychological problems and low self esteem

>>8331890
Not caring about what anyone else thinks and doing whatever you want is what begging a man is, even if it's being a "faggot" by society's rules.

Being yourself isn't easy, people used to have to be tough, both mentally and physically to survive. You don't need to be a strong physically nowadays as much, but stop being such a pussy and go out and have fun without giving a shit what others think. Your a rockstar, act as such

Scared someone will fight you? Mace or a air horn if your in a place that's illegal

>>8332048
This. So much this. I actually became more manly when I stopped trying to be manly.

Everyone is naturally masculine and feminine. You can't express one without the other; you can't repress one without the other.

>>8331890
I do have dysphoria as an AGP sometimes. I try to rationalize it away or smoke weed to compensate.

What I notice is, I dont really identify as a man internally anymore. I consider myself a test damaged lesbian. I just play along with being a man to fit in.

>>8332090
Just identify as you and be happy.

>>8331890
>being a man has lots of advantages no dispute,
yes dispute.

>>8336829
So you think there is absolutely ZERO advantages to being a man?

You're a fool, there's Pros and Cons to everything.

>>8337233
Supposed advantages tend to turn out to be not so great upon examination.

"People take you more seriously... so you get blamed when you do something wrong."

>>8337265
Personal responsibility? For shame i might have to not be a constant Fuck up.

As a man i can do almost anything that my biology allows.

What is something that solely females can do that men can't, not including biological functions.

>>8337302
Like I said, supposed advantage. It's not an advantage when it comes at a price for failing to live up to social demands.

What's an actual pure advantage?

Something solely females can do is get off free from driving offenses by saying it was their time of the month. Another thing is have gender-exclusive spaces, support, career opportunities and groups without being accused of sexism.

>>8337327
Traffic ticket excuse is bullshit

The exclusive places, elks club, knights of Columbus, masions, ect. If outs a privateer club it doesn't matter if they discriminate.

It's only women saying sexism, and No one gives a Fuck what they say anyway, their women

>>8337400
>Traffic ticket excuse is bullshit
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-06-16/news/1991167033_1_pms-richter-defense

>The exclusive places, elks club, knights of Columbus, masions, ect.
http://www.newsradioklbj.com/news/austin-local-news/historic-elks-lodge-may-close-its-doors-amid-charges-sexism-cronyism

So you're wrong on both points and you still haven't given a single example of an advantage to being a man.

>>8337450
Advantages
Strength
Height
Logical thinking
ability to be Taken seriously
Dudes don't live in fear of rape
A man is never called slutty for getting laid
A guy can be dressed to impress abbr ready in 30 minutes, women take hours


The list continues, but its all subjective and pms is bullshit as an excuse, I've never seen it work in NY and I'm an attorney

Hooters has solely female waitstaff and they get called sexist all the time

You're looking at the world from 1 view, look at the whole picture, and you may realise the grass isn't always greener on the otherside

>>8337508
>Strength
>Height
>Logical thinking
"not including biological functions"
t. you

>ability to be Taken seriously
Already covered that one >>8337265 >>8337327

>Dudes don't live in fear of rape
Dudes live in fear of getting mugged, murdered or falsely accused of rape.

And guys do get raped, and then fail to get the support for it women do.

>A man is never called slutty for getting laid
A guy gets shamed for not having sex.

>A guy can be dressed to impress abbr ready in 30 minutes, women take hours
A guy can't shave, bathe, etc in 30 minutes, so dressed to impress is an exaggeration. A woman can be as ready as a guy can in 30 minutes.

>The list continues, but its all subjective
You could think up bunch more falsehoods I'm sure.

>and pms is bullshit as an excuse, I've never seen it work in NY and I'm an attorney
Who to believe, the public record or some guy on the internet who says he's an attorney?

In summary, BTFO.

>>8337527
>not including biological functions
characteristic is not a function ffs

Come on, there are ups and downs to everything, even the same sole characteristic can be advantage and disadvantage depending on context. Like with power comes responsibility and weakness can be exploited to manipulate others.

>>8337602
>characteristic is not a function ffs
Are you for real? You demand I come up with something non-biological and then can't meet your own demands and have to resort to semantics.

>Come on, there are ups and downs to everything,
Maybe there are, maybe there are downs to being a woman and ups to being a man. If you think of any let me know!

>>8337527
I want you to know you're being 100% subjective and you will refuse to look at both genders as a whole and you will see upsides and downsides.

that woman went to court on her case, a scientist wrote a scientific study that the cop Only thought his car didn't stop at the stop sign and he got off.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/23/local/la-me-0423-traffic-fine-20120423

Jury nullification works on alot of things, if you can get the jury (or judge on a bench trial) to be on your side you can in open court admit a crime, and if they don't care, you're not guilty.

also Men on average make more money, there is a irrefutable fact :P


But seriously? What dude fears muggings and murder?
I don't fear muggings or anything. I have no fear in my life even while walking down a dimly lit street, none of my friends fear that either. Though every girl i know will say they feared rape multiple times.

This will be my last reply to your arguments, feel free to have the last word on this

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>>8337683
Im not even him, you cant into abstraction and definition like some autist or a 10 years old

>LOL BTFO

This looks like the place to ask, what are some nice story websites about sissification, feminization, sexuality bending, mind control into gay stuff, sex with sissies and shemale or and such? I especially like stories about straight guys who only give into/are tricked into/forced into gay stuff at the peak of horniness, or while drunk/stoned/drugged: they physically like it, but are really against it mentally, but they just can't resist repeating the experience; then it can either progress into sissification or take the shemale route; this might also be accompanied by heavy denial or ignorance; ideally the majority of their sex partners are also sissies or shemales. Futa is also acceptable.

Nifty is gay from the word go, Fictionmania is mostly TG, MCstories is a mixed bag, TFgames is a couple of gems in a sea of unfinished garbage, Literotica is censored and shitty to browse, asstr is plain impossible to browse.

>>8337753
>This will be my last reply to your arguments, feel free to have the last word on this
With 'facts' like yours I can see why you feel the need to bow out ASAP.

>>8337859
Our posts speak for themselves.

>>8317170
Just transition already tbqh

>>8338287
Make a fiction recommendation thread with an eye-catching OP is you want responses.

>>8317170
Stop spending so much time on the Internet and obsessing over sex. Get a life, you bored fuck.

>>8338287
>>8342036
>>8344228

>>8317170
You just need to find an alpha male and submit and accept his seed.

>>8342023
but I like being looking like a guy too and being nonbinary is a meme

>>8348627
Just play with all the options for both genders, it'll be fun, take the things you Like, i adopted female jeans, panties and nail polish, for my everyday clothing, occasionally a feminine shirt if it pulls everything together.

>>8349605
why panties? aren't they really uncomfortable? or do you tuck? even most guys underwear isn't comfortable for me, let alone imagine panties
im not even fat
girl jeans are really comfy tho

>>8353005
Find the styles you like In the proper size and it works.

For me:
Brief and bikini are good start, to try they are the most similar to male
i love cheekies and thongs.
boy shorts suck, they bunch up between my legs


But i am a grower, not a shower, (2-3 inches soft, 8+ hard) so my Cock fits easy, a nice feminine bulge.

Also i didn't believe it at first, but getting real panties, not multi pack and cheap ones, is the way to go. When i made room in my drawers recently, i took out all of my cheap panties out, id realized through the months all the cheap shit was getting uncomfortable, meanwhile all the Victoria's secret shit i have is great for years

My latest favorite is Victoria's secret Pink extra low rise thongs with the branded band (says pink on the waist band), holds my junk in place amazingly, feels like I'm wearing nothing at all otherwise.

Also materials for panties are cool, such of large amount of choices, even jyst the cut, like laser cut and raw cut, meanwhile male underwear has limited styles and fabrics, or at least far less venues that sell such goods

>>8354080
That's this board, as is always trans stuff

>>8354061
>Also materials for panties are cool, such of large amount of choices,
this. it's not fair.

>>8354061
>silk feels nice
>buy silk boxers
>they slide around up to and including 180 fucking degrees
>they don't breathe worth shit
>don't absorb sweat instead sticking to you
Never again.

>>8358148
dress appropriately, i don't go running in satin and lace panties, for that i usually go with cotton, though there are panties designed for working out, i believe they are moisture wicking

>>8358330
they could still make boxers out of very soft cotton like they do for panties

>>8360751
But would require me to purchase special underwear, i already wear panties every day, I'm comfortable in them to run 5 miles without issues. the few pairs of boxers i have only get used if im working with my family in a project, and I100% know my ass will be hanging out, because while i think my ass it's sexy, my dad and brother don't need to see it in a thong for 10 hours as i work

>>8360751
Just get nylon boyshorts, they're pretty comfy

>>8361270
how can you prefer thongs to proper panties?!

>>8363346
Its like wearing nothing at all, my junk stays in place just fine

>>8317216
Therapists can't do fuck all for fetishes or kinks. Absolutely fuck all. They can't use pills, there's no therapy that's proven in clinical trials to offer any aid at all, and you're basically fucked. This is why you can't cure pedophiles. You can't cure masochism. You can't cure a crossdressing/feminization fetish.

It doesn't happen. People say they're "cured" after a couple weeks of meme therapy and then go right back to slipping into stockings as they jerk it.

You can't cure fetishes, only adjust to them. Welcome to the lottery of life. We all have ours, after all (inb4 meme lying response like "muh fetish is cuddling")

>>8317170
Gib address so I can kidnap you and lock you in my basement while the hormones work their magic and make you into a loving girlfriend for me. :3

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>>8364717
I am asexual, and all I want to do is cuddle. If I could find and keep a partner who was cool with 0 sex and constant cuddles I would be very happy.

Instead everyone always wants sex at somepoint, and I am disinterested, and don't understand it.

I am an alien

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Fuck mates, can I just get a chart or something to sort this out?

>>8369052
What information do you want in chart form

>>8337527
>Dudes live in fear of getting mugged, murdered or falsely accused of rape.


This is the dumbest thing i've ever read.

I dont know if you're disengaged trolling or sincerely stupid.

But holy shit, if you want women to think of you as "not retarded" or "listens to someone other than his own farts" you should probably never say anything that stupid again.

YOU'RE WELCOME

>>8371763
It's mostly bullshit. Nowadays, the falsely accused of rape part is true, sadly.

I asked on /adv/, but I might as well link it here too

>>>/adv/18376506

what do?

>>8376244
I started crossdressing (in private) when I was about 12. Continued for a long time but I never was less attracted to women, although I'm bi so that may make a difference.

>>8376262
Do you still do it now? Do you keep it private or do you ever go public? I guess I should just embrace being bi curious and prioritize meeting women still. ty

>>8376244
>no fap
lol

Just dress up anon. you'll enjoy it.

>>8376758
I love playing dress up, my girlfriend finds it less fun than i do, I could seriously just try on clothes for hours. But she knew what she was getting into.

>>8379121
Learn to sew, become a dressmaker, fulfill your agp fantasies, make mad dosh on etsy cause you know how to make cute clothes better than cis women do.

>>8379121
>But she knew what she was getting into.
What's the story?

>>8379135
I'm an attorney, that likely pays better than dress maker, though my gf does sew things, no dresses for me yet though, just a got cosplay costume.


>>8379216
Been going out with her since late October, she knew for Halloween i going as Harley Quinn, (full body shave ahs awesome make up) then one day early in i wear a pair of flare jeans on a day trip and on the way back i mention i cross dress, she says she already knew about Halloween, i said i do it more regularly. She asks what i mean, i say the jeans are womens and im wearing panties. She is like "wtf" then i dropped my pants, to show my buttand showed my panties which said "cuddle me" across the butt. She laughed we cuddled when we got back to her place.

Shes seen me play dress up and shes joined in, though she doesn't think it's as fun, since that's everyday life for her i guess

I've since taken her on some of my shopping excursions, i could hit 20 stores trying things on looking for an itten that catches my eye, she gets bored shopping after a hour or 2, even for herself.

Every one of my friends comment that i behave like the female in the relationship, no one knows how true that is, although most know about the jeans and panties so they probably have an idea, Just not that i my dream would be to get locked into a dress store over night

>>8380458
How does she act like the male in the relationship?

>>8380470
She has a much higher sex drive, I'd be content cuddling and watching tv, she wants to Fuck non stop, even after a 30 minute rolling orgasm from oral.

She is the dominant one in the bedroom.

She takes the initiative (she asked me out)

>>8380470
I actually broke up with her at one point because i didn't want to have that much sex and she was set that she wanted it, so i ended it, a month and a half later she was back and had accepted that i am not interested in sex as much as she is.

>>8380555
>>8380562
Nice.

>>8376244
Yes I was in a similar situation as you last year.
I feel asking for help here is just going to act as positive feedback.
What I did was stop posting here to get your fetish triggered with these kind but irresponsible responses, stop masturbating/viewing good porn and try to focus on different things.
This is what I did and I now it's just at the back of my mind and only rarely makes me sad.
Good luck anon, it can be so fucking anxious and depressing to be in that situation but hopefully you can make it out of there without hurting yourself too much.

>>8380735
thanks I definitely feel like a part of me is just looking for encouragement. personally I'm not too depressed or anxious about it, it more seems like a reaction to increasing outside stress. I definitely don't want it to take over though

Who else cross dresses in public without even passing? All the abuse i get is quite frightening

>>8382297
i go out in boymode and manage to pass ;_; why did god make me a failed male with a feminization kink

>>8381546
haha same here.
Went through a period of time where I was failing uni exams, hadn't had any social contact with friends in 6 months and was basically pushed over the edge here.
I think you should just take a step back and look at your life, not saying this to judge but I think it'll help.

>>8382297
I do occasionally, but people rarely Fuck with the biggest guy in the room, even if he's wearing capris.

>>8382297
>All the abuse i get is quite frightening
How bad?