So I guess the last ABDL thread got deleted because the OP was

>too lewd
I thought because it was off topic.

>>8312594
Then how do you explain the three consecutive ABDL threads that got to the bump limit without getting deleted?

>>8312594
Given those threads lasted for a few weeks without issues seems weird that the new one would get saged all of a sudden

>>8312608
Either the mods gradually decided against those threads or the last one was deleted for its more overtly sexual OP.

Means we'll want to continue inconspicuous OPs. No more jokes :( mah bad

>>8312660
It's a shame, I was looking forward to continuing the conversation about modding cute clothes and regularly changing my mind about who my favorite superhero is

>>8312671
It could have even been because I said ageplay thread, which can be easily confused. We'll probably not know what exactly I did wrong. Even using the ball pit over just a generic symbol might have done it.

>>8312679
You're right, it could have been any of those things.
But it's clearly possible to create an ABDL thread the mods won't delete. We've just got to be more careful.

So is this now the /abdl/ thread or are we gonna have to make a new one?

What is abdl?

>>8312800
OP here, I'm okay with either one. If you make a new thread be sure to play it safe.

>>8312800
I'm okay with this being thread 4.5

>>8312586
you all should probably take it to /d/ to be safe

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>>8312839
I was just thinking of doing a new one with the old image from the third edition
>pic related

>>8312841
/d/ is no good for discussion

>>8312841
/d/ is for porn. Discussion gets shouted down in general. It just gets worse if us trannies start discussing queer relationships, transitioning, and how ageplay plays into it. Cishet males salty over being alone tend to crowd us out.

>>8312815
ABDL stands for "Adult Baby/Diaper Lover."
It's a lifestyle/relationship style where you wear diapers for fun, and/or act childish and enjoy childish things, either with other adults who act like kids or with people who play their caregivers.
Very common among LGBT people, trans people especially. "Reliving your childhood as your preferred gender" is a total cliche but there's something to that. Also there's some, "I'm already outside the mainstream so why should I try to seem like an adult if I don't want to?"

>>8312855
Plus,I think the /d/ threads are pretty much dead. The /aco/ threads are active but have the same problems you just mentioned.

>>8312845
>I was just thinking of doing a new one with the old image from the third edition
Seconded

>>8312855
>>8312841
This, it's still way easier to have a nice discussion about being an LGBT little here than on /d/. That should tell you something

>>8312864
>Very common
Doubtful!

New Thread
>>8312905

>>8312874
Among the general population no. Inside this weird nexus of kink, dysphoria, and lifestyle choice it is. The proportional population of transfolk involved in abdl and related age play behaviours is quite high. We're still overwhelmingly outnumbered by cishet males. But there's a big draw from those forced to grow up male to regress to a headspace where we can play our preferred gender.

Most of us thus far have a kink with diapers. There's a particularly stress free feeling having ones genitals completely hidden.

We also don't all play babies. Several people from the last thread enjoy ageplay as a middleschooler or teenagers.
The terms just existed before the internet so it's hard to really encompass everything we sort of do.

>>8312659
>Either the mods gradually decided against those threads
Funny how this is an actual issue for many different threads on all boards, yet the janitor application page says:
>Rules are to be enforced as written. Janitors enforce site policy only and personal motives should never influence deletion. They are objective, not subjective.

>>8312855
>Discussion gets shouted down in general.
The problem is less other posters and more that the mods delete threads that aren't image dumps, with a handful of arbitrary exceptions.

>>8312916
>We also don't all play babies. Several people from the last thread enjoy ageplay as a middleschooler or teenagers.

But then not diaper play right?

Like I looove getting off over thinking of myself as like a kid (10-13 I guess) being 'molested'. Theres sexual abuse history in my past so I guess thats why, but it just gets me off like nothing else.

But I never thought the ABDL community was for people like me?

>>8312601
The same way some cp threads on /b/ can stay active for god knows how long before a mod finally decides to pull the plug before the fbi knocks on the door.

Yeah they're just taking down the threads now :(
It was a good run I guess

>>8312982
They left this up, and it's been more active, maybe this is our thread for now?

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>>8312993
I guess so

>>8312964
What is your fantasy? How close is it to what actually happened to you?

>>8312964
It's more ageplay. A lot of us also have diaper fetishes. But there's been some drift away from using abdl in some places. It's just the terms the early generations coined so we're sort of stuck with them.
You'd be usually refered to as a middle. Not little, But not grown up either. A lot of us use this as a coping mechanism for abuse.

I was shamed, beaten, and abused for trying to explore feminity as a child; on top of a whole mess of other nonsense. Ageplay is a way for me to work through through a lot if that while enjoying playing in a safe headspace.

>>8312993
This is our thread for now. Second post was also a literal shitposter in the new thread. Lets just stay here, we'll worry about a new thread when it comes.

>>8313031
Even ageplay doesn't fit all of the time. Sometimes you just cant turn off being little or younger. You just drop into a headspace and lose track of everything.

There aren't really new terms for ageplay yet lol.

>>8313082
>the language is constantly lagging behind the nuances of describable practices and experiences
It's a lot like being LGBT that way

They probably deleted the most recent thread because we already have this one.

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http://www.sheknows.com/beauty-and-style/articles/961965/how-to-make-your-own-colored-denim

I'm hoping yo go lavender but the minty green would he cute too

>>8313146
It would be! I'm glad we could pick up this conversation here!

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Middle reporting. It's Friday night monsta trucka and I ain't doin my algebra homework!

>>8313082
Maybe we should just call the next thread Queer Trans Littles and Middles. It's not graceful, but it's probably more accurate then abdl. Plus we could shorten it to QT Littles and Middles.

>>8313210
I like the Queer Trans/QT pun. And it is a much more accurate description of what these threads are actually about

>>8313210
I like that. Only thing is it doesn't really include those who are mainly DL.

>>8313262
Yeah, but that's probably the main critic we've gotten. Of course it's welcome, but it'll take heat off the threads to take the emphasis off crinkles.

>>8313262
Or caregivers. Although I don't think that would really scare them away.

>>8313181
Due on Monday dear.

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>>8313370
I... I know! I'll have it finished by Monday, I promise!

>>8313410
That a girl. Any fun weekend plans?

>>8313455
My weekend plans are still a little fuzzy, but as long as I have the weekend off, I know it'll be super fun and relaxing!

I've hopefully got a tiny bit of a little day this weekend :3 daddy rented a car for the weekend (for other reasons), but we'll still have it for sunday, and nothing to do ^___^ who knows what'll happen, but at least I love car rides a lot, especially if I can be padded up, and have my favorite plushie and paci with me :3

>>8313146
This looks like a pretty fun project desu I kinda really wanna do this now

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>>8313210
Made a graphic for ur thread name idea

Ugh why do I like this, it feels so good yet at the same time after I try it I feel so disgusted with myself

>>8314939
Maybe you haven't entirely accepted yourself yet? It takes some time to gain full self acceptance and get over the disgusting/embarrassed feeling ^^;

>>8314787
I think this is probably better than straight up calling it the ABDL thread. I feel like Little/Middle/Big has more lifestyle/personality associated to it than ABDL (which is more fetish-y). Kinda why I prefer to refer to myself as a little rather than an AB, I don't feel like it's a fetish, or a role I play, but rather who I am as a person, kinda ^^;

>>8315041
Yup! Happy to contribute to this branding adjustment that some people in this thread think might help our threads here be better recognized for the /lgbt/ appropriate discussions that they are

Found a weird was store that seems pretty much designer to sell to crazy old cat ladies. But they have a ton of pastel shirts with unicorns and kittens on them. Haven't gotten the nerve to buy one yet but the mall it's in will probably close within 6 months. So trying to be patient and I'll clear their stock as the wrecking ball comes.

>>8317217
Good luck! I know what it's like for getting the courage to do something being a gradual process.
Would you like to tell us more about yourself? Your gender, whether you're a little or a middle, other things you want to get or do, whether you've posted in these threads before... things like that!

>>8315032
>Maybe you haven't entirely accepted yourself yet?
definitely I've only really started experimenting with this stuff so idk
On one hand I enjoy it and think it feels good on the other it makes me feel really gross and strange :/

>>8317394
Uh huh. I posted about dyeing shortalls too. I've been on a hunt through thrift stores and shoddy malls looking for cheap cute things with my bestie faghag. I'll slide between little and middle. I've just been trying to build a wardrobe and a sense of style beyond the typical sissy things.

I mean I do love a fluffy dress with frills too, but a girl's gotta have more.

>>8317447
>I mean I do love a fluffy dress with frills too, but a girl's gotta have more.

I know exactly what you mean! I want to wear a frilly baby gown every once in a while, but I also really like more active, casual play clothes and teenager-y clothes.

>>8313022
My fantasies are quite far removed from what happened. Molested by my teacher aged 8 or so, but I tend to fetishise myself being a bit older than that, but I still think it's probably a factor in why I have that fetish.

>>8317651
My abuse plays a lot into my quirks as well.
I was a frequent bedwetter up until my teen years. I was physically and psychologically abused a lot for it. Now my fantasies often center around not only growing up as the right gender; but diapered too so mommy would love me.

>>8317459
Aaa, I really want frilly dresses myself. Most of what I wear's from the girl's section in Target.

>>8318151
I know what you mean. I see a lot of clothes for babies and kids I'd love to wear in stores like that.

>>8318151
We lack Target here. What kind of clothes have you been getting?

>>8319087
Sorry about your lack of Target. I've mostly gotten cute cartoon shirts, a couple skirts, a pair of shortalls. I found some animal socks with mouths on them that barely fit and they're cute too.

>>8318572
Ugh, I know right? I wish I fit those sizes. They get all the cute clothes. :P

Yay :3 daddy woke me up with a bottle of milky tea ^-^ we cuddled in bed for a while, and i'm about to get changed and dressed up so we can go to a petting zoo ^____^ I'm excited, I haven't been to one for sooooo long ^-^;

>>8320341
Just waking up to that post was nice, so I can hardly imagine how lovely it would be to actually experience! I hope you have lots of fun! Be sure to tell us about all the nice animals you petted~

>>8321084
>I hope you have lots of fun! Be sure to tell us about all the nice animals you petted~

It was super awesome! ^___^ the place was really big, with several open fields for animals to roam in :3 some of the fields were closed off for people, but anyway...

I got to pet some bunnies, they were so incredibly soft ^___^ I've never felt anything that soft ever before in my life o.o

we saw peacocks! even a completely white one, it was so amazing I never saw that before :3

I got to pet some cows and donkeys, one of the donkeys even did a silly thing and showed off his teeth :3 I dunno why it was silly ^-^;

and I got to pet and feed some sheep and goats ^-^ there were lots of baby goats and they were super cute :3 one of them climbed on my lap while I was feeding them and I hugged him it was awesome ^_____^

then daddy took me to get ice cream :3 I got to pick two scoops and I chose banana and cookie dough ^-^

>>8321127
That sounds wonderful! I'm so glad you had a great time!

>>8321127
just wondering but wtf is wrong with you?

>>8321127
That sounds so cute and fun!

>>8321351
is this some type of fetish or something?

>>8321353
It's a little more complicated then that and its unique to each of us.
Ageplay is where we'll roleplay as a younger age for various reasons. It can be a completely innocent and fun time as >>8321127 or lewd and naughty. That little is lucky enough to be in a relationship with a caretaker that enjoys indulging their little side.
There's also many trans people who ageplay as their preferred gender, sort of a way to recapture a childhood denied to them.
Theres those who roleplay as babies/toddlers, some as young elementary school kids, and those who prefer teenagers. It can be pretty fluid depending on the person and the mood.
Most of us also carry a diaper fetish, but not all of us. Then there's a few hanging around who only have that fetish.

We know it's weird and goofy. Heck even cringeworthy embarrassing for those of us into being embarrassed. But it's harmless fun, and can be very freeing for those who click with it.

>>8321378
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa im a straight guy and this is crazy

>>8321386
If it's not your fetish, you don't have to come in her and kinkshame. I'm not even a little or anything like that, but it seems fine to me.

>>8321386
>im a straight guy
Sure ya are namefag

>this is crazy
We're well aware of that. Helps a lot of us not be crazy elsewise.

>>8321402

You like my name dont you?

youre a bad girl! get on your knees for daddy!

>>8321400
my name is Johnny Serrentino

>>8321450
too much to read but my name is Johnny Serrentino

-Johnny Serrentino

>>8321378
Some of this is just our personality. Plenty of adults get all sentimental about soft cute animals or Disney movies or things like that.

I think of us are just late bloomers. You don't magically turn into your parents on your 20th birthday. It can take years for you to outgrow things you liked as a teenager, or even things from before that. Or get so busy with adult stuff you no longer have time for the interests from your childhood. And neither of those things always happen anyway. But when you're officially considered an "adult," you might need to explain to yourself and others that you still want to do those things and that's okay, or that you still have some growing up to do, and this is where labels and identities like "little" come into play.

And when you're trans, there's so much more pressure to fit in. Some people want to and can, and they integrate into cis society so seamlessly that they can hide the fact that they're trans, hate themselves for being different, and put down trans people who aren't ashamed to stand out for inviting adversity upon themselves.

And other trans people go in the other direction. Knowing that they'll be stared at and judged no matter how "normal" they try to look, they don't shy away from other things they like that could make them stand out even more. Dressing and acting like a kid is one of those things, right up there with weird haircuts and piercings.

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>>8321127
>I got to pet some bunnies, they were so incredibly soft ^___^ I've never felt anything that soft ever before in my life o.o
Very cute reminds me how in my family growing up we'd describe things that were super duper soft as "bunny soft"

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>>8321709
hehehe bunnysoft

Does anyone else think this fetish comes from having significant diaper-related memories early in life? I remember when I must have been 3 or 4 after I stopped wetting the bed one night I went to bed without wearing a diaper and was proud that I could wear underwear to bed, but when I woke up my parents had put me in a diaper. That's really my first ever memory of anything as far as I can tell.

>>8322269
One thing I like to bring into this conversation is that children who are gender nonconforming and/or grow up to be LGBT tend to try to stay attached to earlier phases of their development, before it was clear they were different from other children or before that mattered as much

>>8322284
I'm bisexual but I also didn't really realize that until college. I had a girlfriend in high school and I didn't think I was different than anyone (other than my diaper fetish) until I was well past puberty

>>8322284
I'm definitely one of the non-confirming kids who had gender roles enforced on them far too hard. I was always made well aware by other kids, parents, and extended family that I wasn't 'acting like a proper boy'.
I liked dance more then sports, glitter more then mud, and bunnies more then dinosaurs. I was raised by a single mom who cared far too much about what others thought. So while I was allowed to do dance instead of sports because my older sis was in it. I was constantly reminded that I was the only boy. When I play little girl with ageplay, I can enjoy all of those things I was shamed over without feeling guilty.

>>8322581
How did she shame you?

>>8322269
I've thought about that. I was potty trained at 3 and a half but I do have a couple of diaper related memories. There's not a lot to them but still.

>>8322374
Same here only I realized I'm bi later than you.

>>8323425
What were the memories?

>>8323425
>Same here only I realized I'm bi later than you.
It's always nice to hear that I wasn't the only late in life bi. I often think that I lost out on the best years of being bi but honestly I don't think it would have changed anything.

>>8323469
They're pretty brief. Almost like short video clips and they were not really significant things but here goes.
I'll start with the one that's a little clearer but first a little background. When I was 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 I went to this early start preschool because I didn't talk as much as kids that age usually do. I was in diapers full time that year I went there so my mom would send me there with a spare diaper with me so they could change me if necessary. Unless they still had the spare from a previous day. Anyway, the memory I have is of going onto the school bus after it stopped at my house. I remember walking up the steps and down the aisle holding the extra diaper in my hand. I'm not sure 100% sure about this next part but I think I remember another boy waving me over to sit by him and him glancing at the diaper I was holding. I don't think he said anything about it though.
The other memory I have is of being changed. I'm guessing I was 3-3 1/2 and I remember my mom asking me to lift my legs up and then having rash cream applied. This memory was actually brought back many years later when I found an old tube of Desitin in the bathroom closet and smelled it and the memory suddenly came back to me.
So yeah, those are the two I've got.

>>8323486
Yeah, I think can be extra confusing when you're bi because so many people expect you to only be into one or the other, even in the gay community.

>>8322269
I honestly don't have any diaper related memories at all so I don't think it's that >__< I've been intrigued by them for as long as I can remember though :3

>>8322284
>children who are gender nonconforming and/or grow up to be LGBT tend to try to stay attached to earlier phases of their development, before it was clear they were different from other children or before that mattered as much
I feel this way strongly. Growing up, it never seemed to matter much. Later on, when I was 8-ish, and I got the "boys don't cry" bullshit I started sensing something was wrong. When puberty hit, it was "oh fuck, abort, abort!".

Still took me until 23 to say "fuck it, I need to do something about this before I go absolutely insane >____<

>>8322581
>I'm definitely one of the non-confirming kids who had gender roles enforced on them far too hard.
I'm glad it wasn't quite like that for me, at least from my mum's side. I grew up having both stereotypically boy's toys (like cars) and stereotypically girl's toys (like a baby doll). Still didn't gravitate too much towards a super girly side for a long time, and still don't.

>>8325864
>Still didn't gravitate too much towards a super girly side
One thing I've been thinking a lot about lately is the way feminine behavior in AMABs is scrutinized. Too girly and you're just performing stereotypes, not girly enough and it doesn't "count."
Basically the same thing applies for masculine behavior and AFABs.

>>8325998
yeah, I honestly try to not care too much about it. if my therapist/doctor at the gender clinic are pleased enough to keep giving me hormones (and eventually, schedule me in for surgery), that's good enough for me. I never bothered changing my wardrobe either, I just don't care about most feminine clothes, but I didn't wear super masculine clothes to begin with anyway.

I rarely get any shit about it from anyone though, I don't know that many super stereotypically girly people anyway.

I don't even know why I'm here desu, call it morbid curiosity but goddamn even with all of my shit going I suddenly feel a lot better about myself.

>>8312586
What does a diaper fetish have to do with LGBT?
Can we have furry threads? No
Can we have pedo threads? No
Can we have lolcow threads? Sort of but they have to be related to LGBT

ABDL is a fetish take it to /d/

>>8326189
There's a thread here *right now* for discussing BDSM. It's a regular thing and the mods don't delete them.
They don't delete these threads either. This one lasted the whole weekend and three others made it to the bump limit without getting deleted.
And we could probably even have a furry thread here if everyone just talked about their experiences as an LGBT furry and what kind of animal they are and nobody posted furry art or fursuit pics.
I'm glad there have been way fewer posts like this than there were in the last thread

>>8326237
I'd be happy if they deleted the BDSM thread too (infact I think they should)

But whatever, I'm not a mod so I don't decide that, I just don't think any of this should be on a blue board.

>>8326249
I mean, it's a board defined by the sexuality of the people on it; of course there's going to be discussion of sex here. Are you also opposed to threads for discussing your first gay experience or things like that, or is it just the fact that it's fetishistic that bothers you?

Even beyond that, there have already been countless posts in this thread and all the previous ones about how this fetish is disproportionately common in LGBT people, especially trans people, and is often tied into being LGBT in some way.

Hey I'm in Canada and want to know is there a site or something to help me find other abdl? Tried Craigslist but no luck :(
I can't be the only one who loves some thick padding :P

>>8326249
I'm glad you can understand that this is about what you're comfortable with and not what's actually allowed.
Consider this: I'm sure you could find more than a few people who wouldn't consider LGBT people talking about their sexuality a SFW subject, yet this blue board was created for exactly that purpose. And legbutts definitely discuss sex here, even when kinks aren't involved.
And ABDL isn't strictly performed for sexual gratification anyway. It's something plenty of us do to relax and express ourselves in nonsexual contexts.
If you read these threads we're talking about relationship dynamics, hobbies, exploring and accepting our identities, gender expression, things like that.

>>8326267
Have you heard of FetLife? It's a major social networking site for people into things like that.

>>8326267
I'm a leaf too. It really depends on what part of the country you're in. Some areas have a ton, and then more rural places can just be a desert o
for kinkiness.

A school bus honked at me the other day, like the driver thought I was looking for it, I guess because of my cartoon backpack. That was nice

>>8329286
What cartoon do you have on your backpack?

>>8329366
It's actually Super Mario Maker. It's got a checker pattern of classic Mario graphics and Mario in his construction outfit. Which is great for me because I love the classic Mario games and construction worker toys.

>>8329384
That's cool! I love the classic Mario games too, and the newer ones also.

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Think I'm gonna get me some of these! :3

>>8331265
Yay ^-^ any building block toy is fun if you ask me :3 I love my Duplo ^___^

also
>tfw not waking up with a bottle of milky tea because daddy isn't here

>>8331421
I recently got a Bob the Builder "power nailer" that spits out Duplo style Mega Bloks, and it's made me think about getting more of those. I would get Duplos but I'm concerned that they wouldn't fit as well

>>8331445
Oooh, that sounds awesome ^___^

>>8331478
Yeah, I think I want a hard hat and a safety vest to go with it!

>>8331502
oh my gosh :3 that would be so adorable ^___^

How to get a little?

>>8331931
Have you tried looking for local events to go to on FetLife?

>>8331952
Yes, there's no events near.And I'm not sure what you're meant to do on fetlife

>>8331983
You can look for local groups as well. If you're from a smaller city there might not be any ABDL specific groups and just general BDSM groups. Look for one that allows personals and post.

>>8331983
Fetlife's best when you look for local groups or events or munches or w/e. Using it to find people is a mess.

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>>8312586

>>8333240
Would be much cuter with some nice, thick ABDL diapers. I hate seeing otherwise hot guys in granny-style depends.

>>8334024
yeah, but this isn't supposed to be a porn thread, but rather discussion. if you wanna see pics of guys/gals in diapers, there's loads of other places to go.

>>8334056
I was discussing the fetish from the perspective of a gay guy (LGBT related) in terms of the types of diapers I like to see on people. I don't need to go anywhere to see pics, as I have a folder full of them I could flood this thread with if I chose to. I didn't post the pic I was commenting on, and the pic I was commenting on wasn't pornography.

Plenty of haters have already been telling us to gtfo /lgbt/ with this shit, and now you, as an ABDL, are trying to tell me to gtfo for posting a comment well within the parameters of this thread?

Fuck off.

>>8334877
I'm sorry you felt so unwelcome in this space that's for you. We've maybe gotten a bit too anxious about trolls and things that might get the thread deleted.

>>8335117
>I'm sorry you felt so unwelcome in this space that's for you.

lol don't worry about me - I won't melt. I'm just giving you shit, it's all good.

It's still 4chan - remember ;)

>>8335289
I'm accustomed to being extra nice in these threads. That's how the other regulars and I like it, and honoestly we're all a bit too guileless and naive to respond to trolls and snark the 4chan way.

>>8333240
The one on the far right is clearly wearing it over boxers what a dork!

>>8335497
You know there are plenty of ABDL communities on Reddit and Tumblr and Fetlife and ADISC where you can be extra nice and not have to worry about trolls so much.

Not being sarcastic or a dick - just saying that 4chan is 4chan, obviously.

>>8335552
I also go to some of those places, I just like to come here too because it helps me meet other people. I've already added two people on FetLife I met in these threads

>>8335552
Not every board is angry yo. /v/ just had newfag rage babies with /pol/ now erryone thinks you're supposed to be mad here all the time. Every board used to have a more distinct culture, and you can still see it in the slower boards.

Personally not looking for a hugbox or safespace. Just anonymity and communicating without the egos.
ADISC is (was?) run by a paranoid meglomaniac that actively spies on his userbase.
Tumblr is well... tumblr. Great for porn.
Reddit is far too egocentric with its upboats.
Fetlife has a tenuous attachment to my real identity and that ego problem too.

>>8335552
Like >>8336084 is saying, all those other ABDL communities have something weird about them. This is really the only place that isn't shitty about it.

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>>8336519

>>8336597
Overhyped, but for normies one of the better depictions of us in media.

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>tfw you go down for a nice calm nap and end up flooding your diaper to the point of leaking it in just two hours
>Tfw now there is a huge wet spot on my bed

>>8337002
That just happened to me the other night. I know it's not fun! Especially waking up in wet sheets *and* a soggy diaper!
It's okay, sweetie. Accidents happen! That's what the washy machine is for <3

>>8337013
I was trying to do an experiment to see how much my diaper could hold. Since, while awake, my tolerance of a wet diaper is about an hour I thought I may as well sleep to beat the time. I woke up in the middle of the night and had to pee so I did and then it just shot right out of the leg hole.

Now I have to change the sheets and worst of all, I had to change my diaper all by myself! Why is being a little so difficult?

>>8337099
>Why is being a little so difficult?
it's only difficult if you don't have a daddy around 24/7 :<

I guess even with it can be difficult but gosh it does make things easier >__>;

>>8337099
>it just shot right out of the leg hole
That's what usually happens to me when I wet the bed x___x

>I had to change my diaper all by myself! Why is being a little so difficult?
I'm sorry that happened, sweetheart! Little ones have to work extra hard to take care of ourselves, but that's why the bigs understand that we need help.
I know it was daunting, but I'm glad you were able to help yourself this time you needed it! Just remember that there will be other times when someone will be there to change your diaper for you!
Does that make this all a little bit less scary, darling?

>>8337208
And my dick was perfectly positioned too! I made sure to put it right in between my balls yet somehow it still managed to squirt out the leg hole. I don't understand it. And these were genuine adult diapers, not goodnites or anything. I am disappointed to say the least.

>I'm sorry that happened, sweetheart! Little ones have to work extra hard to take care of ourselves, but that's why the bigs understand that we need help.
>I know it was daunting, but I'm glad you were able to help yourself this time you needed it! Just remember that there will be other times when someone will be there to change your diaper for you!
>Does that make this all a little bit less scary, darling?
A little bit. I've just had horrible luck with mommies and daddies. I've had 4 people I've been interested in that like this sort of stuff but it NEVER works out. I fear I'll never find a mama or a dada to help change me. So I'm still a bit scared.

>>8337235
>I've just had horrible luck with mommies and daddies
>I fear I'll never find a mama or a dada to help change me. So I'm still a bit scared
I'm sorry, sweetie! Sometimes, when I'm worried about the future like that, I just think about right now. I know what I'm doing right then, what I've planned for later that day and night. And that makes me feel sure of something, and it's enough for me to think about, so I don't want to worry so much about things I don't know when they're going to happen.
For example, maybe you're going to eat a snack, and take a nap, and play with your toys!
I hope that helps.

>>8337235
Might need even thicker ones sweetie. Were they off the shelf, or nice super thick ones?

Plastic pants would also help when your babypants spring a leak.

>>8337235
>these were genuine adult diapers
>and yet it still managed to squirt out the leg hole
Even the best diapers can gap up and leak in certain positions. Laying on my stomach is tricky for me, for example.
You've just got to learn how to use your diapers to keep everything else dry!

>>8337319
I actually had a huge little day yesterday due to a lot of stress recently. I got all my plushies, put on my diaper and a onsie with little hearts all over it, got my paci and just went full babymode all day. It's rare when I get to do it, but nothing beats just being a baby the entire day.

>>8337342
They also said they made a big piddle in a diaper that was already soggy, and that can be trouble! Even the best diapers need to be changed eventually!

>>8337348
Then it sounds like you understand what I'm saying, and how it can help you cope! That makes me very happy!

>>8337343
>>8337348
These are the ones I got: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007VF4QZ2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They aren't the best adult diapers in the world, but 100 for 33$ is a steal, I just couldn't pass it up. It seems like the weak points are laying on the side (which lucky me is the only way I sleep). And they aren't like super duper thick but thick enough for one or two full bladder releases. Anything more than that and things get a little sketch.

Can I have some recommendations? I have only recently gotten in touch with my little side and really explored it. How does one be a baby? Like other stuff should I get? I've got powder and diapers and that's about it.

Woops this >>8337363 was meant for you too >>8337342

>>8337363
>Like other stuff should I get?
>I've got powder and diapers and that's about it.
Stuffed animals? A soft blanket? Footed pajamas? A Nuk 5 or 6 pacifier?

>>8337385
I have a paci and plenty of plushies (some would say too many but bleh). I would love some footed pjs though.

Any diaper tips? Or just tips in general?

>>8337363
That is a pretty good deal! But you might need plastic baby panties to keep from making bed puddles.
They're pricier, but i tend to use tykables, ABU, and bambino bellissimo. The wick the moisture in quicker.

>>8337422
I've tried Bambinos before and absolutely loved them. Unfortunately they are expensive as fuck. I wish they didn't cost so much.

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Go to /b/ you sick fucks. You're not part of the LGBT sandwich, unless you're stuffing that sandwich with used diapers coated in soupy diarrhea shit.

You all engage in a disgusting fetish akin to scat and watersports, with participants being TruHon 60 year old men in dresses who's Azheilmers riddled brain causes you to forget that in reality you're a grown adult shitting in a diaper.

Grow the fuck up.

>>8337593
>t-this isn't LGBT related!
>unless you're LGBT, but you're still probably gross if you like this so go away

>>8337651
If the T in LGBT stands for TruHon, then yeah.

Otherwise sage and let it die.

>>8336084
>actively spies on his userbase.
Is this true?

>>8337593
You tears fuel us. Keep crying.

>>8338028
They definitely belong in the corner if they can't just hide threads they don't like

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>>8338063
speaking of corner time or timeouts, I really like this idea. I hope I can get daddy to make use of it at some point ^___^

>>8338068
Wow, that actually *does* sound great!

>>8338068
>>>8338063
>speaking of corner time or timeouts, I really like this idea. I hope I can get daddy to make use of it at some point ^___^
>>8338068
Omg! Thatd be awesome

>>8338068
Probably could have used one of those today...

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>>8337342
What are some good plastic pants to get? nicediapers has some cute Japanese style ones but I don't know what's like, "best".
Also are adult cloth diapers a thing?
>>8337416
Use lots of powder both cus it helps and smells good (imo), dont sit around in your piss too long or you might get a rash. Just have fun really (also there's no such thing as too many plushies).

>>8340722
>Use lots of powder both cus it helps and smells good (imo)
it can help, but it can also dry out your skin, which can also lead to rashes, or make them worse.

>dont sit around in your piss too long or you might get a rash.
And keep in mind that for some people, "too long" means 12+ hours, for others it could be maybe half an hour. YMMV, and if you do end up with a rash, it can be very sensitive and/or painful for way longer than it's clearly visible.

>>8337593
Not all ABDLs enjoy using diapers. In fact, I know more ABDLs who just wear for comfort and saftey

>>8341230
That and even when we do use our diapers, it's usually just to wet them.
Most of us don't want to do anything else

>>8341297
yeah basically

>>8341343
But >>8337593 was definitely reacting more to their preconceived notions of who we are than anything else, and didn't seem to want to consider that there might be more to it than their assumptions.

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>When you've been having a rough week with algebra but your teacher says you're a joy to have as a student

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So I bought an enema today. Should I do it?

>>8344213
If you feel like you have plenty of time in a safe environment to experiment with it, then yes!

>>8344243
What do you mean plenty of time? Will it really take that long?

And my roomies just left for the entire weekend so there will be no interruptions.

>>8344253
>Will it really take that long?
I don't really know how long it would take but since it's your first time, you might spend extra time fumbling with some of the steps.
Roommates being out for the weekend sounds like a good opportunity though!

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I'm hanging out with a group of other littles this weekend and I'm kinda nervous about it. Any advice?

>>8344716
Just take your time getting comfortable, and let them know that this is an unfamiliar thing for you. They should understand, it's very common to be shy at first when meeting other littles!
May I ask where you're meeting them?

>>8344253
Enemas usually take around 15 minutes to "activate"

>>8344727
That makes sense, thank you :3
And sure. Someone's hosting it at their house.

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>>8344840
Glad I could help! I hope you have lots of fun! Are you planning on bringing any toys?

>>8344861
I'm at least bringing my pacifier and a plushie but idk

>>8345121
What kind of plushie is it? Does it have a name?

>>8346889
Her name's bunbun and she's a 16" pink bunny

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>>8347172
Aww, same name as Lincoln Loud's stuffie! Coincidentally I'm sure ;)

>>8347333
probably. I haven't watched that show. kinda hoping I get to cuddle someone tonight but I dont have any other expectations lol

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I went to a local event for littles, middles and bigs on Friday night. It was wonderful!
I didn't realize until it happened how good it felt to go to a mixer where I could basically spend my evening showing and telling everyone I met about my favorite toys.
And so good to go to a social event where alcohol was not served, and it wasn't unusual to not drink at all.
And sometimes I would be talking to bigs who would make me feel really safe and protected and soothed. I let one daddy put his arm around my shoulder and stroke my back and pet my hair as we talked.
It was such a unique pleasure to be around so many other people who got what I was about, what I wanted, and they wanted to give that to me.

So I know that ABDL is fairly common among trans people, but it seems like the vast majority of those trans people are mtf.
Is ABDL that common among ftms?

>>8351665
One of the first other trans littles I met was FTM, and I feel like I've seen one or two others but I can't help but feel like they're not less present, just less visible, and they just kinda blend in more with the cisboy twinks.

>>8351684
That's what I figured. Not sure what it's like at munches or conventions, but online they get probably get drowned out by all the cis boys into this. They also probably don't want to bring attention to the fact that they're trans when there's no real need to.
I was just wondering because it seems like a lot of people in these threads that talk about why they like being littles/middles is to re-experience that time in their life as the correct gender. It seemed like most of those comments came from mtfs so I was curious if it was the same for ftms.

>>8351811
I've heard things like that from transmasc ageplayers, it's just less of a cliche, really.

Waddled around a big convention all day thickly diapered but completely hidden because of my fluffy lolita dress. Going to do it again tomorrow!

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>>8353475
Well, I'm glad that worked out for you!
I remembered that I really like taxi cabs, so I started looking online for toys and children's books about them. :))

>22
>mtf
>abdl since can remember
>never gets to enjoy it for fear of being judged
>depressed cus i ignore that side of me, maybe it will go away?

>>8353952
I think the best way for you to start getting comfortable with this side of you is maybe get a stuffie and watch cartoons in private.

>>8354342
Its not like i havent done it all, i just decided i shouldnt reinforce the sick delusion of myself and so i ignore it in hopes maybe one day i can just not be an adbl...

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>>8354357
I definitely used ageplay to repress at one point, and just wish I didn't look like an adult so I could live as a child, away from the discomfort of my dysphoria-inducing body and the confines of my assigned gender.
But it's also helped me to become more comfortable with myself in the time since. It's a way for me to let my defenses down, and receive acceptance and understanding, and to focus on just enjoying my juvenile interests without worrying about whether or not I should have them.
And ageplay makes me feel way more comfortable about still sorting through stuff that cisgirls were able to take care off in their teens.
I understand what it's like to want to feel in control of yourself in this way.
It was a slow, difficult process for me to realize that I could channel those feelings in productive ways that were consistent with my values. I won't ask you to believe in this moment that you can or want to do the same, I'm just offering another perspective.

I have such a love-hate with this fetish. I mean I love it for the all the obvious reasons but it's diapers! And I piss and shit in them sometimes. It makes me feel so disgusting and ashamed

>>8355632
Do you think there might be a connection between the pleasure and shame using your diapers makes you feel? Since you like it, but you consider it an unacceptable indulgence?

>>8354393
>about still sorting through stuff that cisgirls were able to take care off in their teens.
What stuff?

>I understand what it's like to want to feel in control of yourself in this way.
What do you mean/ I'm a different anon and I'm pretty sub so for me giving up control is the important thing.

>>8355689
I think it's exactly that. And more when I stop to think about (a 21 year old mtf with a paci in her mouth and a wet diaper) I feel ashamed.

>>8355741
>What things?
Clothes and hair and makeup, mostly. A little bit of balancing responsibilities and a social life, since when I was actually a teen I never had a job, or friends, or chores, or much opportunity to leave the house without my parents. I just kinda withdrew from my real life and retreated into my imagination. I was a total "egg," if you've heard that expression. My parents didn't expect much from me; juat to do my homework and leave the house with them occasionally.

By "feeling in control" I meant not identifying with your interest in this lifestyle/kink, believing you can resist the desire to participate in it and ultimately overcome it completely. I felt that way at one point, like I didn't "need" this, I just felt like doing it for now. Since then my attitude has shifted to, "Since I want to do this let's make it work for me," instead of needing to know whether I can "stop" or if I should.

>>8355817
>when I was actually a teen I never had a job, or friends, or chores, or much opportunity to leave the house without my parents.
Haha, you were me now, in my twenties.

>>8355689
Different anon but I have weird feelings re: diaps. Like it feels different when I'm in a wet diaper and kinda horny vs when I'm deep in little space and am a diapered little girl. I don't wanna mix kink/sex stuff with the latter but the two like.. have some crossover and its uncomfortable. T_T

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>>8355861
This
>>8355777
And this
The exact reasons i want to just lock the little inside me up and throw away the key, in ashamed to admit it to anyone of the little inside me.
Its only caused me pain and difficulty in relationships.

Ill never get the mommy i want and ive come to accept that for the most part people like that dont really exist

Rip to my fursona

>>8355855
Well, things didn't change for me the moment I started my twenties, either.
It was a slow process for me that didn't really ramp up until I started transitioning. The more I felt like I was living my gender identity, the better I felt and the more interested I became in taking care of myself.
And this was a pleasant association but I felt like I had only just begun learning the things that teenagers do (especially girls).

>>8355942
It's horrible isn't it? Like once I finish fapping and everything I just feel a huge shame, especially if the clean up is long. I wish I could just be rid of this but I can't.

>>8355942
desu i'd rather just lock up the big parts of me and be little forever but thats not really doable rn. if anything I feel worse when I have to dial down little stuff around other ppl.

>>8356420
What little stuff is a part of your day-to-day?
These days I sleep with stuffed animals and usually play with blocks and action figures to unwind.

>>8357549
I carry around and cuddle plushies and suck on my paci when I want it. I diap when we have them and only watch kid's shows. sometimes coloring books..
just a pile of little stuff desu

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>>8357875
>I diap when we have them
I spend a lot of my time off work diapered, too. Like I just did Friday night to Sunday morning, only put on undies as I was getting dressed for work.

>only watch kid's shows
Yoooo, me too. That's pretty much always been the case. I guess I'm fortunate that I don't have friends or co-workers that expect me to talk about their gross grownup TV shows.
Most of my friends watch cartoons at least occasionally, and they're just used to the fact that I basically don't watch anything else.

>>8358055
>gross grownup TV shows
Same anon here, I just felt like adding that I occasionally hear things about what goes on in shows like Game of Thrones and the Walking Dead, basically that they're both gruesomely violent. And it always makes me glad I never bothered with them in the first place.

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>tfw algebra homework's finally going smoothly

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>>8359769
Yay I'm glad :3
>>8358062
Haha yea. My roommates watch a ton of that stuff and bleh.
The best is diapering up and putting on some cartoons and just like.. dropping deep into littlespace and forgetting about everything else. @_@

What kinda cartoons do you like to watch?

>>8360648
>What kinda cartoons do you like to watch?
I jump around. Mostly grade schooler age stuff, occasionally stuff for preschoolers. I especially like anything with female characters or lessons about interpersonal issues. Pepper Ann, Generation O!, The Buzz on Maggie, My Life as a Teenage Robot... I was thinking the other day that I need to finish Jem; I only quit watching that because it got taken off the website I had been using. I *really* like Jem.
I also have DVDs a cartoon that was made right after Jem called Maxie's World, which is just a bunch of high school girls learning lessons, it's very preachy but I love it. Like there are episodes about smoking and eating disorders, that kind of thing.
In terms of preschooler stuff, I've been meaning to rewatch Madeline since I remembered I loved it when I was teeny tiny. I think the last preschooler thing I got into before that was Charlie and Lola.
I have a few Nick Jr. DVDs but I never watch them; probably should change that soon, come to think of it.
I like Steve-era Blue's Clues, Oswald and Yo Gabba Gabba.

>>8360648
Forgot to ask what cartoons you like, in case you were waiting for that ^^;;

>>8360991
Sorry, was busy~
I like stuff with female characters too. Powerpuff Girls, Miraculous Ladybug, Teenage Robot, Bee and Puppycat.. when I had cable I'd just watch whatever was on all day. Wasn't too picky about cartoons.
Maxie's World sounds pretty cute..

I wanna find and watch more preschool stuff. There's a ton I used to watch like Max and Ruby, Angelina Ballerina, Dragontales.. out of stuff I've seen recently, I really like Doc McStuffins and Sofia the First.

>>8337924
the man tried to ban memes so who knows what he'll do

>>8361863
>when I had cable I'd just watch whatever was on all day. Wasn't too picky about cartoons
Iktf, although I eventually get sick of whatever's playing on Cartoon Network at the times I usually turned the TV on (and I didn't want to watch anything but cartoons lol) so I would usually take a break from broacast TV every so often, and watch cartoons online instead.

I like Powerpuff Girls too! Although the original series was a lot more about fighting than I remember. I guess because the parts about the girls acting like regular kids or working through their feelings were my favorite moments, they left an outsize impact on my memory.

I remember Max and Ruby! And I'm glad I could recommend Maxie's World to someone who might enjoy it!

Speaking of preschool shows, anybody else like The Backyardigans?

>>8366146
I do! I haven't seen much of it but I remember watching the "super spy" prime time special back in the day and really enjoying it!
(Aside: All the Nick Jr. primetime specials were treats for me and I enjoyed every one)

>>8366146
Did you have any particular favorite character or episodes?

>>8366225
My favorite character is probably Austin. I always thought his shy and soft-spoken nature was adorable. All five of them were fun though. Some of my favorite episodes are: Cave Party, Samurai Pie, The Swamp Creature, and Tale of the Mighty Knights.

>>8366292
Thanks, I'll definitely check those episodes out! Have you already posted in this thread about any of your other little interests? If not, feel welcome to talk about that!

>>8366320
I have! I'm actually a middle and have posted about that here. Though I didn't mention I like a few preschool shows too.

>>8361887
Haha, yeah, all the Powerpuff Girls episodes I remember liking the most had like.. the least amount of fighting and they just sing a lot or do cute goofy things. That show had a lot of fighting tho.. >.>

>>8366146
I watched some of it but I don't remember much. :o

Also I'm >>8344716 and had a really good time around other trans littles and I'm looking forward to hanging out with them more. Little friends are the best. >.<

I love curling up and watching dexters lab and teen titans :P

>>8366377
Oh yes! I remember you! And yes, talking about your favorite preschool show didn't make you easier to recognize ;p But of course it's perfectly fine for you to like the Backyardigans!
I'm going to watch it and I look forward to talking about it with you in the future <3

>>8366540
>all the Powerpuff Girls episodes I remember liking the most had like.. the least amount of fighting
I'm glad to meet somebody who feels the same way!

>I had a really good time around other trans littles and I'm looking forward to hanging out with them more
I'm glad that went well! Although I don't remember you saying you or your other little friends were trans!
Could you tell us a bit more about that?
What is your gender? The genders of your new playmates? And maybe a little something you learned about who they are and what they like?

At this point how does everyone feel about calling the next thread something like "Queer and Trans Littles and Middles" instead of ABDL?

>>8367781
I'm okay with that ^__^ seems like the best way forward.

>>8367781
It doesn't matter what it's call as long as all those know they are welcome, ideally from just reading the OP.

Im hardcore abdl, love my bf and he wants to try and be a daddy figure for me but he doesnt know how to do it... i have a hard time explaining it because i have no experience and dont know how to do it myself... im afraid it wont work it out with him if he doesnt learn because how big a part of me it is

>>8368275
Start small. Like, do you want him to diaper you or not? Give you baths? Cut up your dinner for you?
I know that the ideal caregiver has some talent for anticipating your needs, and maybe you just want to be there already, but it's something you'll probably need to build.
Get your partner's noggin joggin' by asking him to do some stuff for you that you're sure you'd love, and encourage him to think of other things he can offer to do for you. Make it clear that being taken care of is something you like to be surprised with sometimes.

>>8368275
>>8368390
You could also help him get a feel for when and why you get into that place by telling him, "Right now I want to be babied." If possible, try to explain what got you to that place. If you want, invite him to sometimes spontaneously ask you if you'd like to be babied then.
The more conversations like that you have, the better he'll understand when to engage and why.

>>8368443
The problem is he doesnt know how to baby me.
>>8368390
i dont know exactly what i want. I know how i want to be talked to and that alone is difficult to explain to him he doesn't get it. He is trying hard to understand though. As for activities i dont really know what i want in the way of that either. Never had an actual parent really so i dont know how any of it works.

>>8368771
If you consider yourself an ABDL then don't you have an inkling of some things you want to at least try?

>>8368780
Yes of course.. but putting it into words is very difficult for me.

>>8368790
If you can't talk about it, write it down.
If you need to go slowly, go slowly.
Telling people about this got easier every time for me, but it was agonizing at first.
I remember one time it was like
>I need to tell you this I'm gonna tell you okay? I'm gonna tell you...

>....

>It's DIAPERS I like DIAPERS ughhh I'm so sorry

>>8368844
Im thinking of starting out with doing some online roleplaying to see what i do and dont like and will have examples to show him when he has a question

>>8369198
That sounds like a good idea!

>>8369201
Haha but no one to practise rp with

>>8369198
thebabyskunk on kik i suppose if anyone wants to help me practice!

>>8367352
I'm a trans girl, and everyone there either was too which made it really comfy? There was a Mom there too taking care of things which made it really nice. @_@
It was my first time meeting any of them but I felt like I found some smaller side to me that didn't know was there without other littles there to push me towards it, so I'm grateful just for the exp.

>>8371037
That's great! Did you have any nice or memorable interactions with the mom?

>>8312586
Why is fetish shit allowed on /lgbt/ when it has fuck all to do with lgbt? You fucking delete shit all the time but you leave this fucking gross fetlife shit up?

Send this shit to /trash/ with the diaper shitting furries or /soc/ where it belongs.

Unless I guess you think being a gay man means you're into diapers.

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Thought this was relevant to this thread.
Would add that this could apply just as much to trans and other types of queer people, and it's perfectly alright.

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>>8371284
>Unless I guess you think being a gay man means you're into diapers.

So "LGBT" is just gay men now? I see how you think - no wonder your reply is narrow minded and shitty ;)

Bump in case anybody wants to use this later tonight

>>8371490
That's interesting. Maybe that could be part of why there's a disproportionately high number of LGBT people into this stuff.

>>8312586
I just shit my pants.
Anyone want to play?

>>8374022
Kill yourself you fucking sick fuck
I hope you get a urinary tract infection and mrsa inside your shit covered diaper

>>8377986
I think so, everyone in the threads here has talked about that.

>>8378316
why are you on this thread anyway anon?
Besides some of us didnt choose to be abdl and wishes it could go away. But Just like being gay you cant pray it away.
kys

>>8377986
>>8378334
There's not only the fact that queer lives -- as in coming out and living full time -- can start whenever, there's usually a lot of unfinished business. Things you've always wanted to do, lessons you've got to learn from experience that are associated with the young age that most cishets learn them, less concern for standing out for other things after accepting that you're already distinguished by your gender or orientation, and there's likely to be less of the responsibilities and obligations in the mix that occupy cishet adults of the same age.

>>8378316
Would be possible I suppose if I actually shit in them. I'll keep you updated ;)

>>8378403
>Besides some of us didnt choose to be abdl and wishes it could go away.

Learn to love yourself and embrace it. Seriously - best decision I've ever made.

>>8378772
Self acceptance was the first good step I made.
Not giving a crap about other people knowing/finding out was a second one.

Not that everyone around me knows, I just don't really care if they find out anymore.

>>8380515
This, most of my friends know at this point, and I don't remember needing to explain it or sell anyone on it. They were pretty much all previously familiar.

>>8380534
Yeah, I don't think most of my friends know. Some definitely do. I'm just not really hardcore hiding anything anymore. Sippycups/bottles are just with the rest of my mugs/glasses in the cupboard, diapers are in the same place as my clothes. If anyone finds them, not my problem. If they make a huge deal out of it, fine. I don't need that shit in my life.

I'll gladly explain to anyone that asks questions. Anyone that straight up judges isn't worth keeping around in my life :P

Plushies and other cute little-ish things are scattered around my house, and I'm not exactly a model adult, so I think some of my friends figured it out already, or if they haven't, it won't be a huge surprise when they find out.

>>8380554
>Plushies and other cute little-ish things are scattered around my house, and I'm not exactly a model adult, so I think some of my friends figured it out already, or if they haven't, it won't be a huge surprise when they find out
This is basically where I am with my parents

>>8380557
>This is basically where I am with my parents
Heh. I straight up told my mum about it when I was 14. My dad already sorta-kinda found out when I was 8ish and caught me sneaking diapers that were for my younger brother >___>; I have no idea if he still remembers that, or if he realizes that it wasn't just a phase.

(fwiw, they're divorced, in case it's confusing)

>>8380566
my mom definitely caught me a bunch when I was younger, and my dad, but I think they both kinda waited for me to grow out of it. I think my dad just had to get used to the fact that my personality and interests stayed childish. Arguably got more childish as I got older, because I went from collectible type action figures in high school back to preschool toys and stuffies.

>>8380515
I've got the first step down. Still working on the second though.

>>8380936
Good for you! Getting comfortable with yourself is a big, important step because you can never get any time away from you.

Probably a good place to mention that I'm looking for a mommy that likes to dote on me and wants to help me learn how to take better care of myself

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>>8382095
What does the mommy get out of it?
Real mommies get an oxytocin rush when caring for an infant.
I doubt that is going to happen when caring for a lazy adult who acts like a child.

FtM diaper liking guy here, though I tend to be into ageplay as a 10 year old or so, I have fond memories of not having tits and playing in the woods and tend to still do that shit, I like whittling and building forts. I usually do this alone, all my friends only like to do drugs

>>8382117
Just yesterday I talked to someone in a belly stuffing thread (of all places) about how she loves taking care of her gf the way a mommy might.
So I know that this fantasy of mine would not be unsatisfying for the right person.

>>8382187
Awww, cute! Do you have any woodsy characters you look up to or associate your outdoor play with? Like Paul Bunyan or Davy Crockett or Robin Hood? Maybe even Abraham Lincoln?

>>8382117
>Real mommies get an oxytocin rush when caring for an infant.

Humans in general get oxytocin from intimate physical contact - cuddling releases a lot of it. So yes, a "mommy" would get this from participating in abdl play if that's what they're into.

>>8382268
I like to be Rambo, I saw First Blood at a young age. I pretend cops or an army is chasing me sometimes. Today I was in the woods and saw a wild turkey and tried to gobble but I forgot how to make the right noise and confused her. I also like to make stacks of big flat rocks- sometimes these are markers for magical stuff and sometimes they're warnings for overhead heliocopters. I really really like to sharpen sticks and make little fences around areas

Nice to be able to share this with people, I'm toughguy druggie gymrat to my friends.

>>8382288
>Nice to be able to share this with people
I'm glad to lend a sympathetic ear. I love talking about this kind of stuff!

Rambo, why didn't I think of that? I think it's really interesting how your play seems to be a mix of pretend and some real survival knowledge. Can you really call turkeys? And are stacks of flat rocks really a good way to signal helicopters?
Also, I would love to hear about the magical stuff you like to imagine your rock stacks can do.

>>8382330
I can't call turkeys for shit but I usually try to make noises at animals I see around. I can do squirrel chattering good enough to get them to pay attention to me for a little, sometimes I can get birds to whistle back. I don't think rock stacks are good for actual heliocopter signalling but if I'm playing like I'm a one man operative sent out to scan an area or secure a line then my orders are to make rock stacks. If it's a magic day usually the narrative looks like there's some evil force in the woods (usually just beyond this field of ferns I like- they're soft and catch the sun well) and the rock stacks ward off the evil and make my special area safe.

I also really like force field stuff. I get a little sci fi sometimes, I once wove together a bunch of these vines to make a cloaking device which made me invisible.

I work nights and have free time during the day and provided I'm not too busy I usually like to spend it pretending

>>8382390
Interesting! Would you ever want to learn real animal calls or do you just like trying to see how well you can do it?
What kind of character do you like to imagine yourself as on magic days?
I find it interesting that the common theme of these play scenarios is you creating a safe space for yourself where you're protected from some kind of outside danger, in a place where you just like to relax anyway.

I have a friend who loves it when I explain the stories I act out with my toys, and just needing to explain it all to somebody else usually helps me understand my playtime better. I'd love to talk about my stuff if you're interested, btw.

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>>8312586
Why are you freaks on /lgbt/?
Jesus, wanting to shit your pants has nothing to do with being gay.
Why does everyone think /lgbt/ is the dumping ground for all the mentally ill freaks who have nowhere else to go?!

>>8382531
Keep crying man. We love it. You salt fuels us.

I mean it's not like there's a way to hide threads right?

>>8382485
>I'd love to talk about my stuff if you're interested
Not that anon but I'm interested.

>>8383275
So what I do is, I have a bunch of action figures (Marvel, Star Wars, a few other things). I put different figures next to each other and imagine their conversations, and try to decide why they would meet each other and if they would be friends. I'm autistic and I'm pretty sure this is a way for me to puzzle out social cues.
For example, one time I had Dracula meet Queen Amidala because they're both royalty, but I decided that they wouldn't like each other. In the Bela Lugosi movie Dracula doesn't really care if he creeps people out, and Amidala would be able to tell that he's bad news, even if she couldn't determine that he's a vampire.
And Dracula doesn't care if anybody catches onto him because he's so cocky, and certain that his powers will get him out of any jam.
Also, usually after I've been around crowds in public, I'll make scenes where lots of action figures are just walking past each other, and to my mind they aren't interacting.
Like I know a lot about when and why people do and do not talk to each other, but deep down I guess it all seems pretty arbitrary to me? So I'm trying to put it all together this way, using characters I feel like I understand, and making sense of it this way is very relaxing.

>>8383593
>I'm autistic

No, you're just stupid.

>>8383660
Why would you say that? Do you think I'm flattering myself undeservedly by calling myself autistic?

>>8382531
Half the fucking threads in the catalog have nothgin to do with being gay, you dumb fuck.

For fucks sake - look at the content of this board. LBGT people can have interests other than hormones, shaving, being a chaser, suicide, and surgery, you raging faggot.

>>8383593
>>8383660
I just hope the anon I wrote this out for was able to enjoy it....

>>8383959
I'm not the anon you wrote it for but I thought it was adorable. :)

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>>8384440
>white-knighting this hard

>>8383593
I'm the anon you wrote this for.
I like reading about how people here spend their playtime, and yours was no exception.
I like how you take different pre-existing characters and place them in settings that they would never be in and can imagine how they would react. I was never good at that, which was why I liked getting toys where I had no idea who they were so I could create personalities for them. Even with toys where I did know the character, I would just pretend they were someone else.
Are the toys you play with new ones, or are they toys you've had since your childhood?

>>8385566
They're all recent purchases, but I've been a fan of a lot of the characters they're based on for a long time.
But crossing over characters from different media happened kind of gradually. Originally I would stage interactions only between figures from the same franchise. But then I got some figures who could logically cross over, like Carol Danvers, who actually does interact with Star Wars-like characters far away from Earth in the Marvel universe. And then I got interested in exploring any common quality I could think of, like how Dracula and Amidala are both titled.
It helps that I store all my action figures in one kind of crowded shoebox and I have to take some out to get to other ones. So I'll set aside figures who I would never think to put together on my own and suddenly I'll start imagining what would happen if they met.

>>8385566
Are you a little by any chance? Do you have any playtime activities that you'd like to share?

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>>8383593
>Amidala would be able to tell that he's bad news
About that...

>>8385825
Fair point, haha! I don't always follow the canon precisely. I see the characters how I want to see them. I also have a Captain Phasma figure and I'm sure you can imagine that when I play with her, she's tougher than she was in The Force Awakens.

>>8385625
That process you describe is so interesting. It's good to have new ways to play with your toys.
Sounds like you'll need a proper toybox soon. But I guess a shoebox is less conspicuous.
I wanted to get back into playing with toys and I wasn't sure if I wanted new toys or to try to find where my old ones were at my parent's house. I think its better to start fresh.

>>8385703
>Are you a little by any chance?
Sort of? I would say so but I'm not really sure. Maybe more of a switch.
I thought I could set this stuff behind me but these threads have helped me accept that this is a part of me.
Right now I'm not really in a situation to indulge in this, so I'm just living vicariously through the people here for the time being.

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>>8385877
>Sounds like you'll need a proper toybox soon
I am actually shopping for one now! This isn't something I hide. Even when I tried to hide it, it was so essential to who I was that it snuck out anyway. I tried to act like a "sophisticated" toy collector for a time until I realized that my pedantic act was just a lot of insecurity I was better off without.

>I thought I could set this stuff behind me but these threads have helped me accept that this is a part of me
And it doesn't have to be something that controls you or holds you back. It's something you can make work for you. It's been a safe place for me to be myself, and not who I think I should be. It's been a wonderful source of self-discovery, self-acceptance, and self-care.

>>8385940
Oh my god, that toybox is so adorable. I'm glad you won't hide it.
The "sophisticated" toy collector is why I don't really like /toy/ that much. I don't see how it's much fun to just display a toy and not actually play with it.
My older brother kept his toys in their boxes and I just never understood why.

>And it doesn't have to be something that controls you or holds you back. It's something you can make work for you.
That's the plan. I don't want this to consume my life, just something where I incorporate small aspects of it into my life.
I hope it will be a source of self discovery, acceptance, and care just as it's been for you.

>>8387092
>The "sophisticated" toy collector is why I don't really like /toy/ that much. I don't see how it's much fun to just display a toy and not actually play with it.
I don't know that collectors necessarily play with their toys less when you consider the time spent posing and staging them.
And not every adult toy collector is embarassed and desperate to avoid the fact that they still play with toys. But obviously the ones who do can be a real pill sometimes!
I've never kept a toy in its package, but I have kept a bunch of toy packaging. I collected action figure cardbacks even when I was a kid, and I love seeing action figures from years and years ago still packaged like new in comic and toy shops. The packaging just IS a part of the experience!
I used to spend a lot of time on /co/, and there is similar concern about whether comics and cartoons are acceptable entertainment for capital-A Adults.

Oh, I was wondering, what is your gender/orientation situation?

>>8385625
>So I'll set aside figures who I would never think to put together on my own and suddenly I'll start imagining what would happen if they met.
This all sounds really cute. I haven't had toys since I was a kid and reading about all this makes me wish I did but, money. It's fun playing pretend with plushies tho

>>8387492
I have a few tricks. Thrift stores are your friend, obviously. Then discount bins in comic shops. I was able to buy some of my favorite action figures for less than a dollar.
I also wait until things I want are on clearance at the toy store. I've spent Christmas money from relatives on toys.
A little patience and creativity goes a long way!

Since people are enjoying these stories about my toys, I have a couple more.
I want to make a graveyard playset for my monster action figures with coffins I can put each figure into, and graves and tombs to put the coffins into. I eventually realized that I basically want to be able to "tuck the monsters into bed." Sort of like how when I was very little I played with one of my Batman figures like it was a baby doll.

In addition to action figures, I collect Japanese superhero roleplay toys, like Power Ranger morphers. They're very stimulating to me; they're often brightly colored, intricately detailed, there are buttons to press and they typically light up and play music and sound effects. Also, thinking about what these toys do for the characters on the show makes me feel strong and safe, and capable of getting through my day. I've started carrying at least one of these toys with me in my bag wherever I go. Seeing it in there, or even just knowing it's there, has a soothing effect on me.
When I have a private moment I like to press the buttons on these toys, listen to the sounds they make, and imagine it's giving me the power I need to carry on.

>>8387188
>I don't know that collectors necessarily play with their toys less when you consider the time spent posing and staging them.
I guess that's true, never really thought about it like that.
I like toy packages and as I kid I saved some of them just without the toy inside.
If I get a toy now, especially an older toy, I feel as though I would like it came in its package, so that it feels complete. I also wouldn't have to worry about missing accessories.
But once I get a new toy I'll feel the need to take it out of its box to play to with it.

>I used to spend a lot of time on /co/, and there is similar concern about whether comics and cartoons are acceptable entertainment for capital-A Adults.
I usually float around other boards and sometimes if I'm lucky I'll see a thread on /co/ on preschool shows.
I think it's great that there are people who are not potentially into this who don't care if they watch and enjoy shows meant for people much younger than them.
Although some of those people are parents

>Oh, I was wondering, what is your gender/orientation situation?
I'm a femboy who takes hrt.

>>8388418
>If you get an older toy in its package you don't have to worry about missing accessories
Very true!
>But once I get a new toy I'll feel the need to take it out of its box to play to with it.
Totally agree.

And yeah, preschool show threads on /co/ can have some pretty chill people who are very comfortable about what they like!

Do you have any favorite preschool shows? I haven't watched any in a while but some of my favorites are Yo Gabba Gabba, Blue's Clues, Charlie & Lola, and Oswald.

>>8388510
>Do you have any favorite preschool shows? I haven't watched any in a while but some of my favorites are Yo Gabba Gabba, Blue's Clues, Charlie & Lola, and Oswald.
I love Blue's Clues! Charlie and Lola is also a great show. I've been meaning to watch Yo Gabba Gabba. I've never heard of Oswald, but looking it up it looks super cute and I need to watch it.
As for shows I like there's Sophia the First, Jake and the Neverland Pirates, and Sesame Street. I also like Lalaloopsy, but I feel like one of the reasons that I like that show is because I really want some of the dolls.

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>>8388758
I'm glad you're already familiar with Charlie & Lola! Funny enough, a stoner friend of mine loves Charlie & Lola. The first time I mentioned it he started quoting the characters and doing impressions of their voices!
Yeah, Oswald is... I'm tempted to describe it as a cross between Seinfeld and Little Bear. The setting of the show is actually called "Big City," but it's very soft and quiet and gently paced. And it's all narrative driven, which is a nice contrast to shows where the characters are talking directly to the viewer.

>I really want some of the Lalaloopsy dolls
Awwww! I hope you get some then! Do you have a favorite character on the show? I know nothing about Lalaloopsy.

>>8388805
>Funny enough, a stoner friend of mine loves Charlie & Lola. The first time I mentioned it he started quoting the characters and doing impressions of their voices!
That's super cute. Oddly enough, my college had its own cable lineup, and part of that lineup was a preschool channel.
Maybe one of the reason that was included was because stoners liked to watch it.

>Yeah, Oswald is... I'm tempted to describe it as a cross between Seinfeld and Little Bear.
Ok, now I have to watch this because it sounds amazing.

>And it's all narrative driven, which is a nice contrast to shows where the characters are talking directly to the viewer.
I tend to be more of a fan of the narrative driven preschool shows, but sometimes it's nice to watch the other type where they talk down to you in a sort of condescending tone. Really makes me feel little.

>Do you have a favorite character on the show?
The dolls I really want aren't really major characters on the show, but my favorite show characters are Sunny Side Up and Berry Jars 'n' Jam. I like twin characters, even though that fact isn't really mentioned on the show.

>>8389005
>where they talk down to you in a sort of condescending tone. Really makes me feel little
I wouldn't put it in such a negative way, because when I want to be talked to that way I enjoy it, but it's not an unfair description. I remember a segment of Yo Gabba Gabba about how it's okay to be scared, and all the other characters kid-gloved the red one because he was afraid of something. And it was very lecture-y but I was very soothed by this little story about the monster's fears being respected and accommodated.

I really like Timothy Goes to School. It's a really comfy show about preschool animals dealing with problems. It's super easy to find on youtube.

Sophia the First is probably my favourite of current stuff. I should try to track down the super girly shows I liked as a kid but was super self concious of being caught watching. Like Princess Gwenevere and the Jewel Riders and Skydancers.

lately when I see a baby in a stroller or a girl holding her mom's hand as they cross the street I get really jealous. part of me wishes that it was me getting babied or holding mommy's hand. part of me feels like its wrong to think that in the first place. what do I do?

>>8393194
lately when I see a post by some self-centered AGP I get really annoyed. part of me wishes they were dead and part me feels like strangling them until they stop breathing. what do I do?

>>8393194
I've experienced this feeling for many reasons. I still wish I was shorter sometimes and before I transitioned, I was jealous of women obviously.
You can find somebody to baby you. There are people out there who want to give that to you even though you're an adult. And if you let yourself believe you just don't deserve that, it's only going to make you feel crummier.
You may want some things you actually can't have, like to be smaller. And it helps me a lot to think it's okay that I want that, it's not like I don't have it because I don't deserve it.
Trying to make the feeling go away, not feeling entitled to the desire, that compounded my misery.

>>8393297
why the agp hate?

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>>8393299
>There are people out there
>being this codependent

>>8393194
>lately when I see a baby in a stroller or a girl holding her mom's hand as they cross the street I get really jealous. part of me wishes that it was me getting babied or holding mommy's hand.
Same.

>part of me feels like its wrong to think that in the first place. what do I do?
Dunno. Jealousy is kinda normal. Just don't act out on it.

>>8393299
>I still wish I was shorter sometimes
I still do this and I always will. Even though people tell me I'm relatively short anyway >___<;

>You may want some things you actually can't have, like to be smaller. And it helps me a lot to think it's okay that I want that, it's not like I don't have it because I don't deserve it.
This is kinda uplifting somehow >__>;

>>8394022
>This is kinda uplifting somehow >__>;
Glad I could help!