1) How GNC were you? 2) How did adults make you act your

>>8277588
>How GNC were you?
"When did you first start fapping to being a girl?" for the AGPs.

>>8278536

so when did I first start fapping? idk like age 9 i used to fap to imagining that I switched bodies with a cute girl in my class.

I used to do a bunch of things whose criticism was met with "he's just secure in his masculinity" from my mother :^) Sorry ma!

I was just pretty autistic as a kid, so no interest in team sports, but lots of interest in trucks and dinosaurs, etc.

Started wanting to be a girl at puberty because of jealousy at how they were able to coast through everything.

Got over it in my early twenties when I started having regular sex.

I've always been very pro gay rights, but think trannies are just attention seeking trendgenders or mentally ill perverts. "But for the grace of 'God' go I."

>>8277588
I was pretty neutral I didn't feel very boyish or girlish up until I hit around elementary school age where my peers were a bit more aggro about not conforming to gender roles.

Tho I do have some memories of being gender conforming as a kid too like at one point my mom sorta jokingly asked if I'd like to dress like my sister one day and I told her no because boys aren't supposed to
that moment fills me with regrets because I feel that's the attitude that condemned me to be a late transitioner

>>82775881)
Really early on:
Not really GNC or not GNC, just picked stuffs I liked from each sides, but turned out to be socially-wise oriented girly (hang out with girls mostly, collected cute stickers), but preferred gender neutral toys (legos were the shit, I don't actually remember myself having a gendered selection of toys, just a random bunch of stuffs).
Less early on: basically remove all the social because there was no more social except getting beat up and bullied almost daily until <school that is the equivalent of high school but no quite, Lycée> by schoolmates. Still on gender neutral toys mostly, as well as mostly books and technical stuffs. I liked everything complicated so I was absolutely fascinated by RC toys (talking about the toys until i wasn't in the age to play with toys anymore, obviously).

2) It wasn't the adults that did it (because I'm not 'murican, lawl), it was the other kids which really early put into my head that I MUSTN'T, AT NO COST, EVER, act girly (because otherwise i'd get bullied). A really obvious thing is that it has fucked is how I walk because I overwrote the routine like 4 or 5 times already and I can't walk in automatic (and also I can't walk straight for some reason, but meh... makes for funny stuffs when going somewhere with friends). Oh, and it probably fucked my perception of having it bad, since according to my criterion I'm basically in heaven.

>>8278536
Literally age 10 I'm agp as fuck

>>8278536
Had (non-sexual) fantasies since I was 4, but started masturbating to them during puberty.

>closeted ftm
>I'M NOT A GIRL MUM IM A TOMBOY
>went through month-long autistic phases refusing to wear anything but tracksuits
>was into sharks/nature/treasure planet
>scalped and tortured all my barbie dolls
>also went through autistic girly phases when bullying or my mum got too aggro
>these generally ended badly
>emo heaven 2007 jeans and band t erryday great year
>experimented with binding since boobs appeared
>always remember being sad in primary school because the boys wouldn't play with me
>on occassions where they would play with me I'd get mad if they assigned me a female character
>learned to accept this cuz they'd reject me if I didn't

I sometimes wonder whether my mum's behaviour caused me to buffalo bill myself into beliving I'm ftm or whether I hate her because I was always ftm. She like was a crazy demanding teenage girl and she thought I was her princess.

I was pretty GNC as a kid, but also remember being scared to order any ice cream except strawberry because my mum would ask me why I didn't get the pink one.

>>8278536
Tru tru.

>>8280106
W-wow your mom's screwed up. My parents were similar but not so pushy.
Me? I was a hermit with no interests except reading, running track, and school. Hated playing with girls but didn't make guy friends after elementary school because I didn't want to be seen as a pontential crush.
Did any other ftms repress really hard and dress very girly until they came out? I am a straight (into girls) ftm and did this, so my parents didn't believe me when I told them I secretly wanted to be a boy for the longest time.
I think I'm a little AGP as well because the idea of me having tits turns me on but the fact that I don't have a dick makes me want to kms every day.

>>8280106
Tell more please.

>>8278536
I'm agp and kids used to tease me and thought I was gay, what does this mean

>>8280187
It could mean that they just thought you were GNC. "Gay" can mean many things after all.

Did you have any GNC behavior as a kid?

>>8280160

I'm repressing pretty hard and yeah I can get pretty girly sometimes, usually immediately following a breakup. The fact I can get bfs as a girl is the only thing keeping me from transitioning. I have some low ass self esteem.

>>8280160
>I think I'm a little AGP as well because the idea of me having tits turns me on but the fact that I don't have a dick makes me want to kms every day.
It's really bizarre how straight FTMs seem to get AGP.

>>8280257
Yes I was implying kids thought I was gay because I often acted in a shy and effeminate way, also I think holding hands with my best friend during recess had something to do with it as well

>>8280176

>be 5
>2000, pokemon rush
>collected the stupid card altho nobody would play them with me
>watched the cartoon autistically
>other kids have red/blue on gameboy
>beg mother
>"what does it say anon? Does it say gamegirl or gameboy? Are you a boy?"
>reee forever
>she appeased me by buying me endless plushies tbf, I had them all
>years later
>now have a 2y/o brother who is the favourite child
>still want a console, still not allowed a console
>christmas
>lilbro gets a psp
>a fucking psp
>try to conceal my jealousy cuz I love him but I spent the next year or so watching a toddler destroy it
>they buy him another one, which he again destroys
>"maybe he's a little too young for it?"
>plead for the backless carcass of one of them in case it can be fixed
>"don't be stupid anon it's fucking broken"
>years later again
>bro and I both have ps3s
>love the shit out of mine wheras he still ignores it bc pretty young kid
>his is downstairs in "playroom" mine is in my room
>had a breakin, his got stolen
>"c'mon anon just give yours to your brother he'll appreciate more than you that's your little brother whine whine whine"
>guilted into parting with it
>he still ignored it for years, when he finally took interest my parents bought him a new xbox anyway
>heartbreaking


I have many more.

>>8280379
Wow...

>"what does it say anon? Does it say gamegirl or gameboy? Are you a boy?"
This was the most triggering part to read but the rest way still horrible.

More.

>>8278536
literally since I started jerking it

>>8280337
I wonder if it's the other way around, do straight MTFs get AAP?

>>8281248
If >>8280123 isn't meming, yes.

>>8280404

>I am britfag and white trash brit women have an odd tradition where they go to sunbeds before they go on holiday since paleness is bad and idk
>mum actually owned one
>when I was 4 she made me lie in it to "make me look nice for the holiday"
>4y/o me was quite content to sit under the big lights and draw with crayons
>screeching refusal all other years bc I was old enough to equate tans with females

>ragefight literally every time she has ever bought clothes for me
>one of the biggest was when I was 9-ish
>she bought me this dress
>white, slim-fitting, giant fucking holes cut out of the hips
>getting cold writing this srsly
>I felt sick looking at it
>"anon c'mon this cost months of your pocket money youre such a bitch just try it on"
>do try it on
>this is a weird slut dress even for my current standards and I am a chubby autistic GNC 9y/o who cries if you tell her to take her low-tied ponytail out
>those giant hip holes
>I must've been dawningly aware of what puberty would bring because it was all I could think of and I felt disgusting
>totally broke down
>"It feels like slime"
>I got in trouble but she let me take it off, never looked at it again
>this spurred one of the tracksuit only phases I mentioned


>be 13
>got bullied in primary for autism but at the time pinned it on GNC traits bc i was starting to like boys
>starting high school brought on a major girly phase for me
>walk into room one day normal
>mum looks at me smiling
>"The money you'd make us on page 3"
>for non-britfags there used to be soft porn on page 3 of newspapers
>girls with their tits out
>I wanted to die

More?

>>8277588
cis male bisexual here

1) I played with girl toys when I was too small to know they were for girls

2) They did not need to, if anything they discouraged my most masculine behaviours, such as fighting and "Adventuring" (walking off alone)

>>8281476
>this cost months of your pocket money
She spent your money for you? Or she spent more than months of what she gave you for something you didn't want?

>"The money you'd make us on page 3"
Said to a 13 year old...

>More?
Yes.

>>8281476
>"The money you'd make us on page 3"

Ugh! Cringe!

My mother was a bit GNC herself... total tomboy farm girl. She would refuse to let me wear my hair short tho. It was the 80s so she'd only let it be "short" if I had a god awful perm... so that as the perm came out it was longer than I'd wanted it cut... also she only let me wear my gender neutral cloths for pictures if I wore big gaudy earrings too.

Now she can't display any of those pics she was so adamant I wouldn't "look like a boy" in... because now I have a beard and she gendered my school pics against my will. Idiot.

I was all tonka trucks, ninja turtles, GI Joes for as long as I can remember.

>>8277588
I wasn't very GNC. Not the most boyish (didn't like sports, loved to sing, preferred peeing while sitting, preferred coop vidya games and support roles in vidya games, was secretly jealous of girls for getting to be treated as such, but never openly acted on it), but I mostly just acted like a shy, emotional, autistic boy.

As for my parents, it was moreso the kids in preschool and kindergarten that got me to act like a boy. What's that? You like mermaids? There goes your social life. And here, why not paint a target on your back for bullies too?

The only role my family had in my repression as a kid was that my dad was a Jr, passed his name down to me, and treated it like a family heirloom.

>>8278536

11, pretty much the first time I fapped

>>8281522

As-in it cost the equivalent of however many months it was of my pocket money, but she did talk out of her ass to get her way a lot so I don't know how true that was.

It was sort of thick stretchy textured satin-ish stuff and she kind of went through phases of getting things because they were designer, plus the fuss she made over me not wanting to wear it, it was probably way too expensive for us anyway

Relatively minor but:

>be idk in primary school
>7 or something
>cute lil school disco
>in uniforms first half of day, pack change of clothes for afternoon
>everyone getting changed
>to my horror everyone is wearing little versions of normal clothes
>mum had bought me a hot pink dress covered entirely in pink sequins and those little girl sized heels normal mums were outraged at at the time
>"anon cmon it's a disco you wanna look like you're having fun everyone will be wearing this stop being such a fucking brat I'm not buying you anything else"
>step outside
>kids all laugh
>"ANON THINKS IT'S A REAL DISCO"
>for some reason that super worked
>teachers even look disgusted
>misery
>but was already being bullied so it didn't make much difference
>teachers tell me I couldn't walk in the heels, made me put on plimsoles
>got laughed at more but day got a little better

>>8281792
>>8278741
>>8278580
shit how did you guys fap so early?
i never masturbated until i was 16

>>8281932

I fapped since like 8 but never felt desire for another irl human till I was like 20

Sexuality is just weird anon

>>8281837
>it was probably way too expensive for us anyway
Poor people.

At least you didn't have to wear the heels.

More.

>>8282023

>poor people
She used to take me on "bonding" shopping trips in the city, wherin she would look at ugly clothes in slow mo while I carried her bags in misery, I remember her shopping in all the rich people high street shops like Karen Miller, spending hundreds of pounds on an outfit and being all "don't you DARE tell your stepdad"

She also once bought a jag and had to give it up a few months later because she could not afford that shit

She did all this working in a supermarket cashier and she now uses her "financial troubles" as an excuse for her behaviour back then and her later descent into alcoholism as soon as I hit my teens.

>be 15-ish
>fixing friend's laptop
>I say fix I'm installing/using an antivirus and fucking ccleaner
>she asks, I tell her
>I have been unjustly blamed for every technology failure in the house since I was 8 and fell for virus ads literally first day on the internet so she's confused
>asks me where I learned to do that
>"???? taught myself? It's really not that hard"
>she tuts
>"you used to be my princess, what happened?"
>oh she's drunk
>"it's all <stepdad's> fault, he made you a boy"
>I barely speak to my stepdad but hey ho
>I mmhm until she leaves

But this shit is what I mean am I actually ftm or am I all fucked up just trying to not be her?
To boot I don't know my real dad and the replacement was an abusive (til I was old enough to hit back) insecure retarded betalord who she physically and psychologically tortures so I have no secure male role model, did that cause this?

>>8282632
I can relate to feeling conflicted about dysphoria that way. Do you have a throwaway email?

>>8281932
I didn't fap in the conventional sense until I was a teenager. When I was younger I'd usually rub right below my glans with my fingertips. Sometimes I'd do it while wearing borrowed panties. I'd orgasm but I didn't cum until I was older, it was pretty surprising.

>>8278536
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>>8281932
I didn't masturbate until I was almost 18, either, and then it was only an "attempt" at it.

I'm sure you can guess why THEY did it.

>>8283503
?!?!?!

>>8283529
>I didn't masturbate until I was almost 18, either, and then it was only an "attempt" at it.
Why?

>I'm sure you can guess why THEY did it.
Clue!

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>only two genuinely GNC people itt so far
>one half of that is an FTM being congratulated and applauded by the MtTs here for "not being like the rest of the girls"
so what can we do to fix this?

>>8283662
OP did not specify for people who were GNC to reply.

If anything there should be a lot more replies with absolutely nothing related to report.

>>8283693
>If anything there should be a lot more replies with absolutely nothing related to report.
The 80% of trans people who are A*P, like Cara, may still be GNC in some ways. As might cis people!

>>8283662
>tfw a disgusting late transitioner joins your thread
Why are you even here?

>>8283723
cara isn't agp

>>8283734
???

>>8283734
hes a disgusting late transitioning illegitimate hon

>>8277588
Very much so

>be ftm very closted
>Growing up was very tomboyish
>Dad constantly gave me shit for not acting girly enough, acting too much like a boy, and not dressing girly enough

>>8287675
What would he do, and how were you not girly enough, too much like a boy, and what did you wear?

>>8277588
very gnc for a boy, slightly gnc for a girl. disorder of sexual development, undersized nonfunctioning genitals, undeveloped internal gonads, raised as a boy. i played with dolls but i got bought very action and war soldier figures because they're what you buy a kid, right? i'd dress up my sister's barbie to be a tough army woman, driving a red hot rod convertible while carrying a rocket launcher. army barbie was the best. but i'd mainly play house, or shop, and given the option of rough and tumble fighting games, the boys made me a 'nurse' to help up anyone in the game who was dead. i'd let my friends put makeup on me, i got to play around, express myself, draw pictures, and i fitted in. i had relatives who would beat my ass for walking girly and talking girly because i was supposed to be a boy, and my parents made me get forced haircuts because otherwise 'i would get bullied' but i was already being bullied anyway so lol. i only started to enjoy sports when i got put in a mixed sex sports class and i got to play field hockey, softball, and volleyball, instead of football and soccer. when i was in my early teens i developed naturally more along female lines, i grew my hair out, and i became more tomboyish. i liked sports more, and was scruffy and just had my hair in a shaggy mane or a ponytail, wore minimal makeup to cover up uneven skin tone. no-one knew if i was a girl or a boy, and that was ok. then i took T to be a boy and tried to conform with masculine stuff, cut my hair off, started growing facial hair, still wore makeup tho. then realised i was never a boy or meant to be one and i wouldn't ever make my parents proud as an unhappy loser fake male, took estrogen, lasered the facial hair off, finally now working towards a clitorectomy and vaginoplasty my endo tells me i should have had when i was 12. now settling into being a shy, sporty tomboy again.

if i'd been left to self determine i wouldn't have been a complete genderfuck meltdown fuck the 80s

>>8283662
There was another thread that asked the same question, so I didn't see a good reason to share the same thing again here.

> Live in an all female house as the baby boy
> women to men ratio: 11 to 5
> Was weirded out that a Hello kitty hula girl bobble head is "gay" yet metal swinging nuts on the back of your lifted truck isn't?

I'm pretty feminine as a men. I lift I'm tall I have a deep voice but if you looked at my car you would swear I was an 90 lb female

>>8287928
That's Caraposter, who got expelled when his sexual obsession with GNC early transitioners turned into stalking and calls every other tranny fake.

>>8288018
lol I know who caraposter is

>>8278703
>because boys aren't supposed to
My life story
I thought boys acted like "boys" and girls acted like "girls" because that's how we were told to be... I was pretty neutral otherwise, played hopscotch and skipped with the girls, played cars and war with boys and everyone played tag/hide & seek together.

>>8283491
>I didn't fap in the conventional sense until I was a teenager. When I was younger I'd usually rub right below my glans with my fingertips.
Can any other MtFs else confirm if this is common? I did this until someone taught me how too "properly". I never used to feel disgusted with myself for masturbating until I learned the "proper" way but sex-ed said is was normal to feel shame. This fucks me so badly.

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>>8283662
>FTM
>MtT

>>8281932
>>8283529

I didn't until I was 14. Am I trutrans?

>>8281932
I didn't til I was 18 and it was to stop me from getting wet dreams, penises are so gross

>>8277588
My mom says I was "never feminine, neutral if anything."

I had to wear girl outfits for a few special occasions. Other than that, nobody made me do anything. I was painfully aware of the role on my own though.

>>8280106
> tracksuits
Wanna go bowling?

>>8280106
> my mum would ask me why I didn't get the pink one

Why is your mum such a faggot?

>>8280337
It's nice to feel sexy AND physically intact sometimes :/

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>>8281366
But if AGPs benefit from transitioning, then do FTMs with AGP benefit from detransition?

>>8289633
Only if their AGP dysphoria is strong enough. But remember many natal male AGPs don't benefit from transition.

>>8289699
>But remember many natal male AGPs don't benefit from transition.
[citation needed]

>>8295998
Burden of proof's on you. Cis people don't benefit from transitioning, and non-dysphorics are cis.

>>8296042
>"Cis" people don't benefit from transitioning
[citation needed]

>>8281476
>>mum looks at me smiling
>>"The money you'd make us on page 3"
kek

>>8278580
>I used to do a bunch of things whose criticism was met with "he's just secure in his masculinity" from my mother :^)
You lucky little agp you!

I only played with animal and 'science' toys. No dolls, vehicles, blocks, guns, etc.

First present I can remember asking for was a diary. When my parents signed me up for tee ball all I'd do was sit in the field and pick flowers. I dressed up as a princess for Halloween one year. That being said, I had a lot of "boy" hobbies too. I was even in Boy Scouts (though I was secretly jealous of the Girl Scouts). IDK I was definitely a GNC kid, but probably not enough to be labelled TruTrans(TM).

>>8277588
>started playing video games/learned to read by playing pokemon at 5
>Strung barbies up by their necks as a voodoo ritual like I saw on the Nat Geo channel at 8
>had Legolas and Aragorn duke it out with my bionicles at 9
>friends with neighborhood boys exclusively from 8 to 14
>started lifting weights in middle school, picked it up again in high school

Never really thought about it, but I don't think I've ever been "girly".

>>8308659
>though I was secretly jealous of the Girl Scouts).
Jealous why?

>IDK I was definitely a GNC kid,
How GNC?

>>8308688
Oh, cis les by the way. I don't want to be a man, but I'm certainly not femme, or butch. Just don't give a damn about putting effort into fitting into a role.

>>8308731
Were you pressured to act more girly like lots of girls in your position would have been? Were you comfortable acting girly at when you did want to?

I think a lot more girls identify as NB or reject femininity altogether because their mothers gave them awful examples (being obsessed with wine, being second wave feminists in general, being emotionally withholding/abusive, shitty parents overall but get away with it because they're women/daughters and nobody really cares) so they fail to connect with other girls once they're old enough to develop a personality. Any thoughts on this?

>>8308762
I didn't want to be girly. I grew up in the 90s with the whole "muh parents were super strict with me, I'll let my kid do whatever they want as long as they're not being a little shit" mentality. That meant I got obese when I was young, and they were fine with me lifting weights from 13 on up when I lost all the weight. Also fine with never teaching me to shave (taught myself) or use makeup (never bothered).

The only pressure was from outside my family, and that was only when I was obese. After losing the weight, classmates typically left me alone or were nice to me since I was a "class clown" who got good grades. I bought and wore a dress to school once and only once. It was uncomfortable, and the next week another girl showed up wearing my dress, despite it being from a fashion line for 40 and up women. So no pressure, but when I did choose to try being feminine, it wasn't comfy and some bitch copped my style.

Did get forced out of the girl scouts by some mean girls type behavior though. Forgot about that.

>>8277588
>how gnc were you?
i'd play house with all the other little girlies but i always insisted on being the dad or the brother

>>8277588
these children disturb me

>>8308769
Very believable. The interesting thing is that boys in the same position won't identity as nonbinary. They'll just be nerds or some other subculture with others like themselves.

>being second wave feminists in general, being emotionally withholding/abusive, shitty parents overall but get away with it because they're women/daughters and nobody really cares
Can you expand on this? I'd like more specific examples.

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>>8308821
>I'd like more specific examples.

>>8308817
>contemporary "art"

>>8308847
That's what you already said, I want specific examples of how that would make her a shitty mother whose daughter can't relate to her!

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>>8308925
Encouraging their daughters to be hypergamous, obese, narcissistic, entitled, pursue worthless degrees - are you asking me why this is considered shitty parenting despite all this?

>>8308700
Well, I like camping, but the girl scouts seemed to have more fun. Tons of trips bc of that sweet cookie money, less competition, more skills I'd actually want to learn (sewing, baking, etc.)... It just all around seemed like a better fit for me. I was a nerdy kid anyways, so it wasn't like I made fast friends in the Boy Scouts either (in fact a good chunk of my friends WERE girl scouts).

It's kinda hard to say how GNC I was. I'm from a pretty conservative area, so that combined with the morals I was raised with made me ashamed to do girly stuff after kindergarten. Basically, no one says I was a girly kid because I thought from a young age it was "wrong" and tried my very hardest to hide it.

>>8308957
Narcissistic and entitled in what ways?

The rest I get.

>>8309065
>Narcissistic and entitled in what ways?

Antisocially.

>>8309093
See this is where I wanted specifics.

>>8309113
Specifically, narcissistic personality disorder/entitlement complexes are indicitave of antisocial behavior. Full stop.

>>8309010
But what girly stuff did you want to do but knew you wouldn't be allowed to?

>>8309136
But like how would that come across? Give an example of a scene where the mother acts that way and the daughter doesn't relate as intended?

>>8309191
Well dressing up as a girl was the most obvious no-no. I always wanted to go to the girl's sleep-overs (and not for the reasons most guys would). Conservative parents made this a no-no too. I constantly tried to get my female friends to give me makeovers (this was usually played off with making a bet a would go on to lose on purpose). This had limited success, and as I got older it was impossible to continue without getting strange looks for even suggesting such a thing. So I repressed. I tried to rid myself of all girly desires. I was of course unsuccessful, and here I am now.

>>8307625

More like lucky my mom was able to see through my antics and self medicate with a pleasant lie. Overall I had to keep it pretty boymode, but I was allowed to keep my hair long.

>>8309968
How did you express to your parents that you wanted to dress up as a girl and go to sleep-overs? How did your parents say no?

>>8310068
>Overall I had to keep it pretty boymode,
What would you have done but didn't get to?

>>8277588
Does GNC only apply to trannies? I'm just gay but have always been a tomboy since I was a toddler. The usual: hated dresses and girly things. Always wanted boy clothes and toys. Parents pretty much let me but would ask periodically if was ever going to want to wear girl clothes, or do my hair all pretty etc...
By mid-teens they just let me do whatever. The only thing that's changed is I wear girl jeans instead of boys due to better fit.

>>8277588
1. Not very. I was a bit more boyish as a kid, I liked baseball and collected cards and everything. My parents and brothers would say I was a tomboy. But by the time I got into middle school I had gotten a lot more girly. I joined the softball team but the funny thing is that it was normal, the girls who did sports were popular and no one questioned their femininity. It is strange how people project their fears onto children. In addition to cards I also collected comic books throughout my childhood and teen years, I kept this a secret from all my friends though.

2. I can't remember anything in particular, they were pretty lenient aside from the basic things like only buying me girly clothes. All my brothers were boring nerds so I think my dad liked having somebody to take to games and all that stuff.

>>8277588

Am I the only dude who doesn't know what GNC is? Where the fuck do all these acronyms keep coming from?

>>8323083
Gender non-conforming.

There's a committee that votes on new ones.

>>8321324
>Does GNC only apply to trannies?
Also wondering this. I am just lez but I answered OP's question anyway.

>>8321324
>>8323315
It's fine just mention your letter.

>>8323078
>In addition to cards I also collected comic books throughout my childhood and teen years, I kept this a secret from all my friends though.
Why keep it secret?

1. During early childhood, not very. Pretty much just didn't care.

When I hit puberty, very. Hated wearing skirts, dresses, blouses. Wanted to tussle with the guys. Wore my dad's slacks and oversized polos as to hide my body away. Would skip if I had to wear the feminine formal uniform.

Started lowering my voice as soon as I could, because I felt my voice should have dropped when it didn't. Got "confused" often for a boy, which was a complicated thing. It made me feel shitty but I still wanted to be one.

2. Grandparents and aunt and such would buy me feminine clothes and compliment me on any feminine behavior I had, and I was told I'd "grow out of" my masculinity. (Sure haven't.) My dad was more chill, but he said sometimes that I looked like a dyke and that I should change my style. Later came out as gay, then as trans.

School made me wear the girls' formal uniform despite my begging for the boys'. Got made fun of for being so masculine, laughed at by rich Christian brats.

>closeted mtf
>feminine gait and posture from young age
>always wore tight jeans
>androgynous personality
when i got older, people usually asked if i was gay a lot. joke's on me i guess

>>8329683
Are you into guys though?

>>8277588
Grew up hating all things feminine and anything that had to with romance. The girl toys I mostly played with r doll houses and tea sets. For boy toys I played with cars, race tracks, legos, trucks and RC. I never liked the action figure/pretty doll kind of toys. Heck at one point I specified that I want gender neutral toys. Never liked anything that was ultra macho/feminine.
I'd wear guy clothes b/c dysphoria back in early grade school and until HS. It's only 2 years ago that I wanted to be slightly more feminine. Tbh the most feminine I'm willing to be is short-ish shorts and chin-length hair.
My parent's used to mind a little when I was a kid tho. But they were pretty supportive of me anyways so there's that.
On the flipside if my younger brothers did the same thing my dad would probably be pissed.

>>8331389
Cis lesbian? Did you ever have to wear more feminine clothes than you wanted to?

>On the flipside if my younger brothers did the same thing my dad would probably be pissed.
Why?

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>>8331413
Cis Biscum. Yeah I went to a formerly all-girls school so there's mostly girls. I'd often get questions like "Why do you always have your hair tied?", or "When are you going to become a girl?". I don't mind the forced dresses but I hated mandatory make-up and heels for some occasions. DESU that whole "When r u gonna girl" charade further reinforced my dysphoria.
On my 18th my parents let me wear polo shirts and jeans instead of a dress tho. It's nice that they accept me. I'm low-key excited for graduation from my uni(the most liberal one in my country). I hope they'd let me wear the male graduation outfit(see pic). I'd be willing for a female-cut barong, make-up and heels as long as for once I get to be myself.

My dad probably approved of my more masculine tendencies. But if my brothers exhibited any feminine tendencies he wouldn't like it. I'm not sure if this is only in my country but if a daughter is masculine the general reaction would be meh to disappointment.
But if a guy is feminine it's a huge no-no. Feminine sons getting beaten by their dads/uncles/grandfathers is a common story. Sucks, really.

>>8334538
Is that a Central Asian Republic? Mongolia?

>On my 18th my parents let me wear polo shirts and jeans instead of a dress tho. It's nice that they accept me.
They'd made you wear dresses for previous birthdays? What changed their minds?

>I hope they'd let me wear the male graduation outfit(see pic).
Any reason they might not?

I think the masculine daughter/feminine son thing is widespread.

>>8336983
Philippines bruh.
I think it's something like in the US where a girls 16th birthday is a big celebration. Here in my country we celebrate the 18th birthday, called a "debut". Like a sweet 16th, it's a girl would be all dressed up because it's a big part of her life. But my parents respected my wish to not wear a dress and that's nice.

Honestly I'm not sure. Maybe I'd have to file for something in the Gender Office. But I hope I won't have to. And yes, we have a gender office. It's pretty nice.

I'm really thankful to have a very accepting family and a university. But honestly outside those things, most Filipinos aren't really lgbt-friendly. They're just lgbt-tolerant.

>>8336983
>>8338812
And in previous birthdays it's just celebrated in the house, no need to wear dresses or anything formal really. Just regular birthday celebrations.

>>8277588
1) I liked wearing girl clothes and when my parents made me stop, I kept doing it in secret. I would wear whatever I could get away with, whether it was bracelets, anklets, panties, whatever. On top of that I really liked girls toys, but my parents made me feel really bad about wanting them and I didn't want my older brother to make fun of me so I kept my mouth shut, but whenever I would play with my friends that were girls, they would put make up on me and we would play dress up. Pretty sweet days desu.

2) My family used to be pretty religious, so I got scolded for any GNC behavior, but I did what I could anyway. Fortunately, other kids didn't really make fun of me, but once my father died, my family kinda went nutty for a bit. I felt like I needed to live up to the expectations of my dad, and stopped being open about it all because I thought something had to be wrong with me.

I'm 18 now and working on getting hormones.My family has forsaken god, so I'm good to go!

>>8338812
How does the Gender Office work?

>>8310112

Wear more feminine clothing, style my hair more freely (had to keep stereotypical egg type of hair, straightened it for a while during "emo" phase), wear makeup, indulge in more feminine hobbies, hang out more with other girls, etc....... dad is pretty heteronormative so I think my mom was just tryna help me out.