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>tfw lesbian but becoming GAMP Help. I don't want

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>tfw lesbian but becoming GAMP

Help. I don't want to like trannies.
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>>8270926
Well if you ever decide you like trannies I'm always here
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>>8270926
should have become psbi instead
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>>8270926
Tranny x Tranny is GOAT
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>>8270938
what's psbi?
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>>8270957
pseudobisexual
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I'm retarded. What's GAMP?
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>>8270965
A fresh new meme.
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>>8270926
>tfw only attracted to mtfs

T. transbian

i am ashamed to be AGP
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>>8271005

Is there a wiki or something somewhere with all this stuff? This board is turning into gobbledegook and wherever I try to look it up online I get computer parts. I literally only hear these acronyms here..
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>>8271056
NORMIES GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>8271056
Yes there's a wiki it's called lurk moar newfag.
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>>8271070
>>8271086

Fuck off I've been at this site before this board was even a thing its not my fault trannies invent a new disorder every week
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>>8271097
I guess it's easy to forget technical terms when you have Alzheimer's.
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>>8271097
get out you fucking autist, you do not deserve to be here
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>>8271097
Same boat anon, they get a new acronym every fucking week.
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>>8270926
>>>/lgbt/femgen
Date pretty boys with tits instead. Theyre like mtfs but you can trick your family into thinking you're suddenly straight. They'll celebrate.
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Can everyone calm the fuck down? It's a new term because scientists like making up new terms for every little thing in order to make their discoveries seem bigger than they are, preferably using latin or sometimes greek. That's why the pic shown mentions both GAMP and GMP (gynemimetophelia): because two different studies used two different terms because why not.

That being said, it's not a "new" tranny accronym, it's the first one to describe chasers.
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>>8270926
look the penis is feminine so its gay

uh thats not the usual context for that statement but it still works. you'll be fine, anon.
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>>8270926

Lmao. How did this start? Tell me about your life as a lesbian.
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>>8271005
>be the biggest tranny hater in the world and still subconsciously be a nagamp
wouldn't it be more poetic for them to be an agp gamp
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>>8270926
>I don't want to like trannies.

the lesbian is prejudiced, color me surprised. i bet you're feminist too

if my assumption is correct, the trannies deverse better

t. straight white conservative christian guy
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>>8271936
>implying mtfs should be forced to pick between alt-right religious scum and transphobic lesbians.

what did they mean by this?
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>>8271425
Quite the fresh spin on an old meme...

>>8271960
Yeah, trannies deserve a man they can build socialism with. Pic related, of course.
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>>8270926
Okay now what the fuck is "GAMP"?

Why are there new acronyms to learn here every week?
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>>8271281
Why do we need all these fucking labels this is getting ridiculous.
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>>8271891
Can a cis lesbian be agp?
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>>8273295
yes, a gynephilic person with an erotic target location error will be attracted to the female version of themselves even if they are, in fact, that female version
however, this does not mean agp cisbians can be directly compared to agp transbians in the sense that the latter are just 'the former in a male body'
also, we have absolutely no idea how common this is and there's reason to suspect it's proportionately rarer, and that women with it would be unlikely to identify as 'lesbian' (as opposed to considering themselves aromantic asexuals or being straight-by-default)
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>>8273342
They are basically pseudo-bisexuals. I've heard it described as "I'm psychologically a lesbian, but...." and then they explain their meta-attraction without the terminology needed to really explain it.
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>>8271005
this entire argument is retarded
traps as they're widely known on this site are NOT the same as shemales/transexuals.
being a little gay doesn't need it's own definition. there's no need to beat around the fucking bush so much. jesus.
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>>8273211
>>8273190
It's just a techical term for 'chaser' that one study used, useful because it distinguishes between straight, gay and chaser on the one hand, and between 'straight' chasers and 'wants it in the butt and also deep down to be the girl' chasers.
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>>8273396
1. It's empirical evidence and not an argument.
2. It uses the oldfag definition of trap as "anything biologically male that can pass well enough to trick - i.e. TRAP - a straight man into thinking it's a woman". That newfags have started using 'trap' to mean basically "an extra-femme twink" is not anyone's problem but theirs.
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>>8273342
WTF do you mean that doesn't mean you can compare them to agp transbians? It's 100% reasonable to suggest that male biology, socialization and puberty causes the bulk of the difference between cisbians vs transbians and psbi cis vs psbi trans. Why are you running away from that? Why are you so desperate to misgender transbians?
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>>8273429
Hell there is even evidence that male hormones and puberty are the main driver of difference; the younger a transbian transitions, the more they fit in as a lesbian actor down the line. I have personally observed this, the older you transitioner the greater the rift between a transbian and a cisbians behaviors and tendencies
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>>8273422
except that the extra-femme twinks in question are most often the subject of the argument that takes place at any given moment regardless if the term is appropriate or not. the reason they're referred to as traps is simply because it's much easier to say than "extra-femme twink" and get the same point across.
not only that, but with the increasing prevalence and exposure to transexuals in modern society and media, using trap as a blanket term is sorely outdated.
if anything this should be evidence that futa isn't gay
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>>8273493
Good point on the confusion, the summary should be changed to address the changed meaning.
However, actually reading it reveals that trannies, and not "traps" in the modern sense, are the subject.
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>>8273547
How's this?
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>>8273429
>It's 100% reasonable to suggest that male biology, socialization and puberty causes the bulk of the difference between cisbians vs transbians and psbi cis vs psbi trans
...that's exactly what i'm saying, anon
male biology is a pretty massive difference!
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>>8273704
What are the differences male biology (from the start and from puberty) and male socialization respectively cause between cisbians and transbians?
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>>8273720
[shrug emoji]
i'm terrible at describing people and still collecting data from this. the heinlein cluster traits like in pic related, in both their extreme form (rationalists, rothblatt-wachowski-conway) and mild form (eli erlick), keep jumping out to me as a difference -- there's a specific weird high-piq programmer eccentric neuroatypicality that for all intents and purposes does not exist in cis women, regardless of sexual orientation.
as for 'nature vs nurture', the answer is always nature, no matter what the question is
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>>8273802
Isn't it possible the reason that eccentric high-PIQ group doesn't exist in cis lesbians (remember, we're not comparing AGPs to all cis women here) is female socialization?

In any case, which part of male biology do you think causes that difference? Brain structure from birth? If so, why wouldn't masculine brained natal females belong to that group? Hormones at puberty, in which case AGPs given blockers early wouldn't be expected to have those traits?

>as for 'nature vs nurture', the answer is always nature, no matter what the question is
That's over-exaggerating surely?
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>>8273841
>Isn't it possible the reason that eccentric high-PIQ group doesn't exist in cis lesbians (remember, we're not comparing AGPs to all cis women here) is female socialization?
well, *i* was female-socialized, and i at least seem to get along with that cluster better than i do anyone else in the world, though the ways i'm 'neurodivergent' (as the going euphemism is) are generally much flashier and my piq probably isn't that impressive. i don't buy any of the social explanations as to why e.g. autistic girls look very different to autistic boys, because i generally have the experiences of the former and the outcome of the latter.
>Brain structure from birth? If so, why wouldn't masculine brained natal females belong to that group?
there is no reason to expect a person who has been awash in estrogen from the fetal stage on and a person who has been awash in testosterone from the fetal stage on will have indistinguishable brain structure just because the have the same orientation, even though they will be far more similar to each other than they would be to the cross-orientation example, and let alone because they have the same gender
(exactly how this works for those natal sex attracted people who transition is somewhere between 'can make educated guesses' and 'completely unknown'; educated guess is 'a lot closer (still not identical), but 'gender identity' itself is not the reason why')
>That's over-exaggerating surely?
nope, the biodeterminists are right
the more we study this, the more it turns out even the bits of nurture that seem to be there are more like random noise than anything
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>>8273704
Ah okay, I misinterpreted you there--when you say "transbians are just cisbians in a male body" you mean the idea that their minds are exactly the same?
Because I read it as "transbians are roughly what would happen to a cisbians personality if she was subjected to the same upbringing and puberty"
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>>8270926
Op theres nothing wrong with liking trannies, you control who you date and who you don't date. if you don't want to date transexuals or have sex with them just fantasize about futa. There's nothing wrong with accepting the dick into your life, plenty of lesbians use strap on and don't question their sexuallity.
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>>8273802
>me scored highly on VIQ and PIQ, am an ambivert that loves people some days and wants to hide others, have phases of emotional-social orientation and logical-competitive orientation, have interests in scifi but also fantasy and fandom, get along with male autists in some ways and female autists in other ways, have both AGP and AAP, altering conceptions of my gender and my desires for presentation, etc
How did this happen to me Trent?
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>>8273973
>me scored highly on VIQ and PIQ
clearly not if you didn't gather from context that i was talking about relatively high scores, not absolutely :^)
that aside, clearly you're a trunonbinary
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>>8273892
>well, *i* was female-socialized, and i at least seem to get along with that cluster better than i do anyone else in the world,
How female socialized? As an HSTS FTM who isn't AGP you aren't a perfect example of either AGP cisbians or transbians, by presumably having a more masculinized brain than cisbians. Also any female socialization is going to be different for someone as extremely GNC as an HSTS FTM since situations will come up that wouldn't with a less GNC natal female. Also simply getting along with that cluster isn't the same as identifiably belonging to it, and you say you're different from it.

How many people have you met from that cluster? Why do you put Eli in it?

>i don't buy any of the social explanations as to why e.g. autistic girls look very different to autistic boys, because i generally have the experiences of the former and the outcome of the latter.
Why do they look very different?

>brain structure
Your point is that despite being broadly "male brained" and having AGP, AGP cisbians and transbians won't have identical brains despite being close?

>exactly how this works for those natal sex attracted people who transition is somewhere between 'can make educated guesses' and 'completely unknown'; educated guess is 'a lot closer (still not identical), but 'gender identity' itself is not the reason why'
I don't follow this at all. Nether cis lesbians nor natal male AGPs are "natal sex attracted people who transition"? And neither of us had mentioned gender identity?

>nope, the biodeterminists are right
Do you have examples of things commonly thought even by smart, rational people to be nurture are actually nature?
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>>8273973
>have both AGP and AAP
OP of >>8214457 detected
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/8214457/
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>>8273985
>Relatively, not absolutely high
Wait what? Sorry the dumb hsts part of my enby brain isn't comprehending what you're saying, please mansplain ;_;
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>>8273892
>biodeterminists are right
Except, of course, that only biodeterminists themselves are saying this, and it is true only according to their own metrics. There is a huge body of litterature both from outside and within biology strongly criticising this view and unscientific and merely a bad of case physics-envy.

Given that only biodeterminists think biodeterminists are right, while many other biologists, philosophers of biology/science, anthropologists, historians, psychologists, sociologists and even many neurologists think they're wrong kinda says something. But of course, if one is willing to ignore all this criticism and cherry-pick the data which supports the view one already has, then one can go on believing in biodeterminism while also making it clear to everyone else that one is interested in justification of an ideology and not scientific insight.
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>>8274004
>who isn't AGP
kek, i'm not 100% sure that statement's true
if i have it it's mild, but there's a lot more that can be explained by me having it than not
one of my childhood friends was very gnc and grew up to be a gender-conforming cis woman, though, so i have a decent frame of reference here and 'atypical female socialization' is certainly not 'male socialization'
>How many people have you met from that cluster?
lots
>Why do you put Eli in it?
eli isn't in the cluster, she's in the normie version of the cluster. most sjw trans women are in the normie version of it (e.g. nevada is pretty much a book about being in that cluster, although the egg in the second half is an example of the different 'omega male' cluster), it has the same traits to a milder degree that's actually capable of interacting with reality (well, they're sjws, so not *that* capable)
>Why do they look very different?
man, you're really hitting the limit of my ability to describe people. autistic girls are like guys who are the level below autistic -- they just seem quirky until you realize they can't make eye contact with anyone. this is not the same thing as high vs low functioning, they can be pretty severely incapacitated despite it.
>Your point is that despite being broadly "male brained" and having AGP, AGP cisbians and transbians won't have identical brains despite being close?
yes
>Nether cis lesbians nor natal male AGPs are "natal sex attracted people who transition"? And neither of us had mentioned gender identity?
it's about hstses, i addressed it in advance to prevent anyone asking
>Do you have examples of things commonly thought even by smart, rational people to be nurture are actually nature?
i dedicated longer to trying to figure out whether to write this or not than i have in any post in a long time, but what the hell: iq differences between ethnicities
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>>8274015
high in comparison to your fsiq
130 viq/160 piq and 50 viq/80 piq are both high piq
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>>8274041
>yes
but where are the proofs?
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>>8274041
>iq differences between ethnicities
I find it funny how some people are SO SURE that this is true, given that the debate has long been raging among actual biologists, and that you can find respected scientists on both sides of the fence. Hell, there's not even full agreement on whether or not IQ-tests accuratley measure intelligence, Stephen J Gould being a very prominent biologist who completely trashed the idea inn 'The Mismeasurement of Man' (which of course was criticised by other biologsts who think IQ-tests are accurare).

At this point, accepting the iq-difference argument at face value without acknowledging the controversy is nothing but a huge red flag saying "/pol/tard here".


>>8274098
Yes and not. This is HIGHLY controversial even among scientists. No side can be said to be right at this point. It's turned into an ideological struggle.
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>>8274098
guillamon's brain sex study (A Review of the Status of Brain Structure Research in Transsexualism, Guillamon, A., Junque, C. & Gómez-Gil, E. Arch Sex Behav (2016))
while it doesn't directly compare categories, it provides data on both bisexual/lesbian trans women and straight trans men (who would be more masculinized than lesbian cis women)
the former have more clearly 'male brains' than the latter
>>8274110
for reference, pic related is how much of a /pol/tard i am
and i made it very clear that this is a controversial statement that smart, rational people in the general population will usually disagree with
>Hell, there's not even full agreement on whether or not IQ-tests accuratley measure intelligence
this part is factually untrue -- in the field biggest hit by the replication crisis, iq is the thing that has consistently replicated the most often
>inb4 shalizi
doesn't show what people think it shows, and even it's a step up from gould's pile of shit
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>>8274041
>kek, i'm not 100% sure that statement's true
>if i have it it's mild, but there's a lot more that can be explained by me having it than not
I actually thought you were for a good while when you were posting anon but then I swear I saw you say you weren't and thought it must have been some other transguy who said that!

What is your possible mild AGP?

>one of my childhood friends was very gnc and grew up to be a gender-conforming cis woman, though, so i have a decent frame of reference here and 'atypical female socialization' is certainly not 'male socialization'
How GNC was she? Is she lesbian?

The point isn't that atypical female socialization is the same as male socialization but that a natal female with the mind of a transbian wouldn't experience the same female socialization as an HSTS FTM. Unless you think she would be GNC in the same way as an HSTS FTM?

>lots
Aren't they rare? Where do you meet them? Why do you get along with them well?

>eli isn't in the cluster, she's in the normie version of the cluster.
I interpreted "mild form" of that cluster to mean still part of it, rather than a different cluster.

Why are they SJW when the stronger form cluster >>8273802 is libertarian?
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>>8274121
>this part is factually untrue -- in the field biggest hit by the replication crisis, iq is the thing that has consistently replicated the most often
Its still better to say that the margin of error on IQ testing still exists and is not insubstantial nor is it free from societal factors and moral
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>>8274131
>margin of error on IQ testing
...is not fifteen points
if iq had a margin of error in non-disabled people that was a full standard deviation, it really would be useless
i understand your environmental argument, but if it were a linear difference as opposed to different populations having genuine differences in this trait you'd expect to see things you don't (e.g. native americans would have lower iqs than african-americans, when in reality they're equal or slightly higher)
>>8274124
>I actually thought you were for a good while when you were posting anon but then I swear I saw you say you weren't and thought it must have been some other transguy who said that!
i keep going back and forth on this, it really perplexes me and i'm not sure what the traits i can point to that are part of it are
>How GNC was she? Is she lesbian?
strong end of tomboy, essentially -- gnc girls are so common (and gnc boys probably would be if they could get away with it) that it's very hard to consistently distinguish any of these categories in childhood if the relevant child doesn't have obvious gender dysphoria
>Is she lesbian?
not to my knowledge
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The point isn't that atypical female socialization is the same as male socialization but that a natal female with the mind of a transbian wouldn't experience the same female socialization as an HSTS FTM. Unless you think she would be GNC in the same way as an HSTS FTM?
she most likely *would* be, at least in the same way as a weird autistic hsts ftm like i was. 'nerdy social outcast boy' is in fact a type of boy, and it looks strange in a girl.
>Where do you meet them? Why do you get along with them well?
the answer to both those questions is 'because i select for people who think in ways similar to me'
>Why are they SJW when the stronger form cluster is libertarian?
the theme is 'non-normie politics', sjws are a little more normie
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>>8274041
>man, you're really hitting the limit of my ability to describe people.
Well what's the point in not pushing the boundaries of what's known?

>autistic girls are like guys who are the level below autistic -- they just seem quirky until you realize they can't make eye contact with anyone. this is not the same thing as high vs low functioning, they can be pretty severely incapacitated despite it.
Then aren't guys who are the "level below autistic" likewise capable of being pretty severely incapacitated and therefore should also be considered autistic?

What do you think is behind the biological difference between male and female autists here?

Autism in HSTS FTMs in the same as natal male autism, right?

>yes
I can believe that.

>i dedicated longer to trying to figure out whether to write this or not than i have in any post in a long time, but what the hell: iq differences between ethnicities
I'm pretty sure you've already said that anyway. It's already commonly believed IQ is significantly nature though, if not in that case, so do you have a different example of something thought to be nurture?
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>>8274155
>i keep going back and forth on this, it really perplexes me and i'm not sure what the traits i can point to that are part of it are
Well why do you think you may be? What can be explained by you having it?

>she most likely *would* be, at least in the same way as a weird autistic hsts ftm like i was. 'nerdy social outcast boy' is in fact a type of boy, and it looks strange in a girl.
What does it look like in a girl?

You said it's hard to distinguish categories of GNC girls but as much as it can be done, why would this natal female transbian be more weirdly autistic HSTS FTM than any other kind of GNC female such as your strong end of tomboy friend?

"natal female transbian" is a weird hypothetical. Would you consider "natal male transbian assigned female at birth" to be the same for these questions?

>the theme is 'non-normie politics', sjws are a little more normie
I see. Would alt-right transbians be more likely in the normie cluster?
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>>8274121
>IQ-tests are accurate.
I didn't say they weren't. I said there was disagreement. And you can call Gould's book a "pile of shit" until you turn blue in the face; it still shows that there IS disagreement and that even well-respected biologist like Gould didn't buy into IQ tests. Which means that you don't get to just state it as a fact and dismiss everyone who disagrees out of hand - if there is disagreement in the scientific community, doubt is a valid position and you'll have to come up with facts and arguments which others can then counter with facts and arguments of their own.

>leftie
Then maybe stop buying into /pol/ack bullshit without question and read the arguments against it from some leftie intellectuals? Just a thought.


>>8274124
>Why are they SJW when the stronger form cluster >>8273802 is libertarian?
Maybe because most SJWs are attention-seeking transtrenders?
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>>8270926
I didnt want to like women either but after many failed attempts at trying to turn myself straight I just accepted that Id be a lonely hon that impotently lusted after women alone in a tiny apartment until I died.
You'll probably do fine OP. You probably transitioned way earlier than me. Just quit freaking out about liking transwomen.
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>>8273445
This is true? Personally, I think that have a lot of sense, but There's a study, or personal anecdotes to support this?
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>>8274121
>while it doesn't directly compare categories, it provides data on both bisexual/lesbian trans women and straight trans men (who would be more masculinized than lesbian cis women)
>the former have more clearly 'male brains' than the latter

Does this mean I'm more of a man than you'll ever be, Trent?
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>>8274121
>the former have more clearly 'male brains' than the latter
Wasn't that pre-HRT? As you've said a lifetime of exposure to the sex hormones of their natal sex obviously have an effect.
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>>8278758
has*
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sooooo AGP transbians hons are the result of what happens when we put a "lesbian brain" on a male body? and for that reason early transitioner transbians are similar to cis lesvians?
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>>8273445
where is the evidence?
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>>8280277
Just personal observation. The older the transitioner the more eccentric and trans they behave, generally.

>>8280276
That's the theory. Supporting evidence would be if the sexual orientation distribution of AGP etiology early transitioners is different. Again just from observations the younger they are the more they seem to fit in.

However one cannot discount the inverse possibility that the girlier you are naturally the earlier you will transition, but I've seen behavioral changes after long term administration of estrogen on agps often enough that I believe hormones are strongly linked to behavior.
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>I don't want to increase my dating pool
Never understood this.
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>>8280300
It would make more sense if bisexual (closer to straight) AGPs were more feminine and more likely to transition early than lesbian masculine AGPs.

>but I've seen behavioral changes after long term administration of estrogen on agps often enough that I believe hormones are strongly linked to behavior.
Could be placebo/socially transitioning that causes it.
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>>8280330
hormones are a powerful force, there's studies who say strogens feminized trans brains and vice versa for FTMs, the FTM one was the next.

>compared HSTS FTM with straight men and women
>the HSTS haved masculinized brain, but not totally, a intersex brain
>after testosterone the HSTS was similar to straight men brain

puberty probably makes irreparrable changes, but hormones in their own change the brain even if this after puberty.

about cisbians and transbians, for what i see, early transtioner trans lesbians are very, very similar to cis lesbians.

i think cis lesbians and trans lesbians have the same type of brain, until puberty and testosterone hits on trans lesbians
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>>8280421
I wonder if I was able to stop and reverse some of the mental changes from male puberty... Maybe that's why Trent calls me and Eli "cisbians".... Hopefully.....
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>>8280515
>Trent calls me and Eli "cisbians"
wut
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>>8271005
>tfw worried about being completely incapable of arousal unless it's a tranny

If there's ever going to be a death camp erected for men, I want to be first in line for the showers because I don't think I can ever find happiness
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>>8280300
>The older the transitioner the more eccentric and trans they behave
Could you elaborate on that? I think I've seen that too

Also, what age group typically behaves less trans?
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>>8274110
Let's see here
Blacks score low on q tests and no matter what you do it never changes even if they're adopted by whites
Adopted Asians score along their ethnic group so it isn't racist white parents lowering the score
Children of rich blacks do worse than poor whites on the sat
Blacks are violent unintelligent parasitical subhumans in every country(but I guess all whir countries are just racist, right?)
Genes associated with advanced brain development are much less common in blacks
Their brains are literally smaller and have less gray matter

BTFO!
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>>8280738
>Adopted Asians score along their ethnic group so it isn't racist white parents lowering the score
No, racist white parents are reverse racist to their adopted Asian kids.
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>>8280738
>no matter what you do it never changes even if they're adopted by whites

nigga please
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>>8280804
LOL one anecdote that's statistically rare.
Do you even know what an average is? Percentiles? Standard deviations? Regression to the mean?
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>>8280776
I cant tell if Poe or no.
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How did this thread go from talking about a lesbian not wanting to like trannies to regurgitating /pol/ nonsense?
Is this the power of trolling?
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>>8280838
Facts are pol nonsense?
Africans literally have smaller brains, literally smaller brains.
You know, that organic computer where consciousness and intelligence originates from, it's smaller.
Like a Gtx 1070 vs 1080.
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>>8280832
Think about which white parents adopt Asian kids? Ones who think Asians are smart, who want to have successful careerist kids, who want to play Tiger mom like their Asian mother rolemodels.
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>>8280856
What does it say that trans women's brains decrease in volume when exposed to female hormones?
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>>8280826
i'm sorry the mean black kid beat you up in kindergarten, anon, but you need to get over it.
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>>8280871
And what about Asians raised by blacks or Hispanics? Because I can tell you right now the result is the same.
And wait a minute, aren't the dumb cuck race traiting whites that adopt dindus also like that?
They think we're all equal and their little Tyrone can become a neural surgeon physicist.
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>>8280856
>Africans literally have smaller brains

mfw
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>>8280906
They do.
Almost 230ml smaller volume.
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>>8280738
>Genes associated with advanced brain development
Wanna know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?

>>8280593
Kinda worry about the same myself, I mean I'm OK with liking all kinds of girls but I don't wanna fetishise trannies like that or to that point - that would be bad both for me and the tranny.
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>>8271960
Trannies shouldn't get to pick at all. There should be basically a slave market where you purchase your tranny like cattle, and real w*men with vaginas should be all killed off for they are ugly and useless.
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>>8280905
>And what about Asians raised by blacks or Hispanics?
Let's see the stats.
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>>8280905
>race traiting whites

what did she mean by this?
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>>8280936
I can find the study if you'd like.
Even if I'm incorrect about this I still have iq stats, transracial adoption studies, rich blacks scoring lower on the sat than poor whites and the fact they have smaller brains.
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>>8280887
I'm wondering that too. That was literally my reasoning for not transitioning, and now I'm not sure about the science
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>>8280972
Instead of adopting a white child in the us or from Europe they adopt some dindu that will probably never amount to anything and might even kill them or their real children if they have any.
White children that are many times not cared for because they're white.
No affirmative action
No scholarships
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>>8280990
meant for >>8280880
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>>8280978
go back to stormfront, shitlord
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>>8280905
One of the most bizarre moments I've ever had was talking with a neurologist named Tyrone in an airport last summer. It's bizarre because my birthname is Tyrone ( A name I still have to use since I'm not out at work nor to my parents so I can't really change it yet without fallout)as well and we kind of bonded over our mutual frustration regarding our name. He was a bit more indifferent to it then I was but he absolutely hates Erika Badu and refused to listen to anything by here. He even told his wife if she ever sung that song around him that he would divorce her. Sorry for going on a tangent, your post just reminded me of that.
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>>8281019
Literally no argument.
Are you denying that they have smaller brain sizes?
This is a well known fact, even leftist Libshits when they write articles on this admit this but they say MUH BRAIN SIZE HAS NUTIN TO DO WITH INTELLIGENCE, which is of course bullshit and is like saying the number of transistors has nothing to do with computational performance.
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>>8281019
Fuck off back to redd*t.
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>>8281055

go back to stormfront, shitlord
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>>8281072
I'm going back to k.
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>>8280999
>White children that are many times not cared for because they're white.
>No affirmative action
>No scholarships
Those are two very specific things that only apply to the highest achieving minorities anyway. Most get no benefit from them and most white aren't disadvantaged by them. They do almost nothing to offset institutional racism and the fact that minorities are historically set back.
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>>8281084
There's institutional racism against white people, down to coastal jew liberals pretending poor white people aren't real.
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>>8281097
No to anywhere near the same degree.
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>>8281111
To a much higher degree.

>poor, uneducated black man
Wow, we need to help this person, it's the responsibility of (((us whites))) that he's down, let's make a foundation to uplift people like him. It's unacceptable to see human being living like this in 2017.

>poor, uneducated white man
HAHA EVERYONE LET'S POINT AND LAUGH AT THIS DUMB IGNORANT REDNECK TRAILER TRASH LOOK AT HOW POOR AND RETARDED HE IS LMAO
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>>8281142
How many black men do you think ever benefit in any way from the few such foundations?

Not to mention there are foundations dedicated to helping everybody.
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>>8281155
How many white people benefit?
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>>8281167
From the all the foundations and government agencies helping poor people, race-specific and otherwise? Far more than the number of blacks considering the white population.
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Reposting from >>8281382

>>8280039

Question to transbians:

How do you manage to tolerate being in a relationship with a cis woman without hating yourself? I mean look at your hips, look at hers. Look at her skull, look at yours. Look at your hands, look at hers. Look at her feet, look at yours. Listen to your voice, listen to hers. Look at her (childhood) photos, look at yours. I mean I guess since you don't like men you have to find some way to deal with it so you don't end up alone. Don't you feel envy when you see almost any woman your age on the street? Why would being in a romantic relationship with one change the way you feel?

t. bi trans girl
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>>8281388
You really didnt read beyond the op, did you?
Why dont you just make a seperate thread for this question instead of plonking down in the middle of a hijacked thread about how white people are simultaneously the most oppressed and the most advantageous race to be because there isnt enough /pol/ in lgbt already.
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>>8270926
what's gamp mean?
anyway, w/e.
hope you find someone you can be comfortable w/, i guess
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>>8281864

I read as far as >>8274032, fyi.
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>>8281864
>white people are simultaneously the most oppressed and the most advantageous race
And also 'niggers ' are simultaneously dumb animals and the greatest threat to Muh Wayt Rajce, and jews are simultaneously the crafty, selfish manipulators caring only about other jews and also the ones selflessly defending gays, trannies, blacks, moslems (their greatest enemy) and literally everyone else who isn't a white cishet male because that somehow kills the White Race.


>>8281899
You've not heard of the dankest new meme? Explained in >>8273588.

>>8282077
And that point has yet to be refuted, instead we segwayed into someone claiming to a leftist doing a poor job convincing us that xir is not from /pol/ and here to shit up a thread about The Purest Form of Love.
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>another good thread destroyed thanks to /pol/faggotry
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>>8270926
based on >>8271005, i don't think you can become a gamp.
you have to have been a gamp in the first place to be one now
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>>8282077
>I read as far as >>8274032, fyi.

Im sorry you had to see a good thread die one post at a time.
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>>8280954
>There should be basically a slave market where you purchase your tranny like cattle,
hot
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>>8280954
>and real w*men with vaginas should be all killed off for they are ugly and useless.
I was with you until this. I wouldn't mind being a slave to a pretty mistress, toiling away for her or serving her in other ways but guys are gross.
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>>8281181
>Far more than the number of blacks considering the white population.
In absolute numbers, yes, because white people are 65% of the population. But not per capita.
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>>8288391
Both of them were asking about absolute numbers.
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>>8280515
But you are both AGPs?
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