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How many of the trans women here were actually gender non-conforming

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How many of the trans women here were actually gender non-conforming as children/tweens/teens?

note that being "nerdy" and "shy" =!= gender non-conforming.
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what did they call the guy who got hit by a car, but was completely unharmed and the impact on his body actually ended up totaling the car?

fender-nonconforming
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>>8209756
thanks
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>>8209726
i was due to my weird upbringing
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Too shy and scared to present, was a grade A closet tranny instead taking every chance I had at switching to girl clothes when home alone.
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>>8209726
Was and wasn't. Had fun wearing my mom's heels and stockings and stuff, liked pushing my peepee in and pretending I had a hole (b4 I knew vaginas existed) and occasionally dressed in loose fit clothing and stuffed my shirt to look as if I had tits. Shame and guilt made me stop and hide it all.
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>>8209833
What age?

>pretending I had a hole (b4 I knew vaginas existed
What did you know about genitals and male/female physical differences?
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>>8209865
I didn't know or care there was a difference till I found my step dad's porn tape "House of love". Untill then, I never gave it any thought and thought babies came from belly buttons. Then I found out through porn that girls had a hole, and the girl in the film was getting double penetrated standing up so I thought the two guys dicks were touching or something.
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>>8209890
Before you saw the porn tape, what did you think was the difference between men and women/boys and girls? What age did you see it?

What age were you when you did the dressing up?
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>>8209794
>anon whose parents treated her like a girl detected
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>>8209726
I hung out with girls and preferred imagination play, but my family's tolerance for that waned as I got older. Mom tried setting me up on a few play dates with boys; they absolutely spooked me. I rejected overtly masculine clothes, hair and toys. Eventually we settled on "okay sweetie, you can be an amorphous blob and have these legos and video games, and be a shut-in if you won't play with your peers." So that's what I did. It was lonely and fucked up. When I did go out, I was mistaken for a girl a lot. I had qt squirrel cheeks, and hair like Joan Jett.
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>>8209912
I guess i didn't think there was one. I guess i thought the only difference was women had milk jugs for kids. I didn't even have a concept of sex and never even thought about it or my penis.

As for the dressing up, i wore my moms clothes once or twice as a kid, and i think i put her make up on. She even died my hair blond for me once as a child. But i always knew not to let anyone else know, and i had some extreme paranoia as a child, don't know if it was from church or something else but i always thought i was being watched 24/7. So the few times i did dress up i felt totally ashamed and i think i even prayed for forgiveness. Plus, when i did act girly or whatever around my brother - he would add an a to the end of my name and call me a girl and wouldn't play with me.

I didn't really dress up again (outside of video games) until high school. I found some of my sisters clothes and wanted to wear them, and put my baggy jacket on and stuffed it like i had boobs with clothes. I looked at myself in the mirror for along time and felt like i was too manly to ever be a girl, so i just stuck to the emo look (tight brightly colored pants, tight band tees, long straightened spiky hair). I always tried to look as fem as possible, but then graduation hit, cut all my hair off (all the men saying "it looks good!") and started working eventually. At that point i tried to emulate the look of a lawyer, even though it felt pretty wrong. I actually got addicted to those sissy fap roulette, and tried some pretty degrading and disgusting stuff, but it was the only way for me to get off.

Then i tried to find out if i was gay, dated a girl from work and lost my virginity. She always said i seemed like i never cared about her like she cared about me, that i was always depressed and disinterested. I wore her clothes from time to time when she left them over, but they were way to small for me (she was very petite, while im 5'10).
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>>8209912
>>8210062
After dressing up with her clothes and my uncles girly wig (i don't know, just found it, don't bother asking) and seeing that i might actually have a chance of looking like a girl, i started reading more into transgenderism and now im setting up an appointment with a therapist and taking some pills i bought of the internet.

Also, before i dated that girl (last year) i read about transgenderism for the first time on /lgbt/ and started talking to some tgirl in washington. She said i was probably trans and made me buy makeup. I decided im not going to do this degenerate thing and browsed a bunch of /pol/ and cut all contacts with her. Thats when i went through the whole gf thing and here i am.

so i guess thats everything. Luckily enough, when i've posted my picture here i get some slightly positive results saying i have a chance. But who really knows. I feel like my entire life since birth has been some sort of twisted challenge that i've had to force myself to overcome. I honestly feel pretty indifferent about everything now. No lust, no drive, just kinda empty. Like im not even a real person, just a tool or a piece on entertainment for other people to enjoy. I don't want to let them down :(
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I kind of acted like a turbofag but weirdly enough I had just enough masculinity that nobody ever seemed to question it. I had really long hair that I'd blowdry and straighten into more feminine-ish styles, was obsessed with cosmetic products, crossdressed a lot. But I had no gay voice and had mostly boy-ish hobbies so nobody ever said anything to me.
I did ask my mom about being a girl a bunch of times but she just ignored it and said it's not possible. Now I'm old, found out the truth, and just want to kill myself lol
Then again i'm still not 100% sure I'm not just plain gay and want to look feminine.
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>>8209976
That pic is really cute and emotive and fits context like this so well.
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>>8209726
I was extremely GNC a kid. I liked girls' clothes, I'd always identify with female characters in games, I'd get mistaken for a girl by strangers, I didn't like toy cars and loved stuffed toys to roleplay with instead. I didn't get along with boys mostly.
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>>8209726
I had a pretty gender neutral childhood. I was into boyish and girly things, and had many friends of both genders.
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>>8210249
lol

i like her a lot because she has the same last name as my bf
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>>8209726
Used to wear hair long before puberty and was aways gendered female. Get creeped on by old men.
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I didn't think about my appearance until I came out. I didn't really care (I'm trying to now). I sometimes got read as gay before I came out. I think mostly I just seemed like an eccentric guy, but now that I'm out a lot of things that were once weird mannerisms (eg feminine stance and gait) make a lot more sense to people now that I'm out.
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>>8209726
I tried but my mom made sure I was as boy like as possible so I just retreated into myself and delt with the boy colored everything until I was old enough to buy my own cloths which is funny because now I go out of my way to hide myself with dude clothes.
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>>8213699
That's kinda sad.

I wear long hair and when wearing certain clothes some elders have mistaken me for a girl once or twice.
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>>8209726
I was somehow often seen as a girl, sorta found it annoying throughout childhood, then puberty hit and I realized "fuck, they were right".

I then spent like 10 years feeling miserable before doing something about it but at least I sorta pass as female now, despite still being somewhat gender-nonconforming,
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>>8209726
In the very beginning, but I wasn't allowed to, so I just became nerdy instead.
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>>8214022
>but I wasn't allowed to,
How did they stop you?
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>>8210039
This is me. Aside from the settling part. My parents decided the best option was to try and beat the tranny out of me. Since I'm here you can guess how well that worked.
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>>8209726
>note that being "nerdy" and "shy" =!= gender non-conforming.
Wrong.
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>>8214178
no you're wrong
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>>8209833
>>8209833
Ayy. I did this too. I used to try to pull the skin of my sack over my pushed in peen and tape it in place so I didn't have a bulge anymore.
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>>8209912
Oh this is a good question. I actually wasn't sure what the difference was for a while when i was a kid because i wasn't sure of the scope of gender. For instance i wasn't sure if moms were considered girls. It actually led to me asking my mom why i wasn't a girl but the question was a bit misunderstood i think. I wanted to know why specifically i wasn't a girl, like the actual cause of it rather than the mechanism that made the difference. I didn't really think about gender differences all that much until I got to elementary school and got beat up and called a faggot etc. In fact in retrospect that's probably what made the most difference to me as a kid. In school guys were more physically abusive while girls talked alot of shit. That's probably when I started understanding subtle differences between genders.
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>>8214181
how is that wrong
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>>8214235
Did you know girls couldn't pee standing up?
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>>8214242
reclusive behavior isn't GNC because it isn't 'gendered'
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>>8210039
Ha. I remember this feel. When I was a kid I asked my parents for an easy bake oven because someone I knew had one and they got nervous. I mean I liked "boys" toys too so there wasn't a real reason to be alarmed but they liteally told me i'm not allowed to play house or with dolls at all. AT ALL! And they basically forced me intonhaving no friends by being weird fucks about everything.
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>>8214249
Boys are proactive, girls are reactive.
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>>8214249
true i guess
though maybe someone shy and reclusive would naturally just try to blend in and conform even if they didn't like it
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>>8210062
I had yet another similar experience to this anon. I did most of my cross dressing as a really young kid because that's just how things worked out. I stopped after using mom's nail polish and not knowing how to get it off. When I went to them for help they reached peak concern but rather than talk to me directly they argued about it that night like I couldn't hear. Dad called me a faggot. I didn't even know what that meant atthe time but I remember because of how he said it. It wasn't hateful but more like concerned. I thought I was in serious trouble or something. My dad knew how to cut hair nd basically always cut and style my hair for me. He wouldn'tlet me do the emo look at all on purpose. He said long hair is for girls and always cut it super short despite my protests. He also forbade skinny jeans or anything that wasn't sufficently masculine and tried to force me into sports and martial arts thinking that it would toughen me up. Actually in retrospect my father was exceptionally bad at parenting because he literally never even considered what I wanted unless it alligned with he wanted. Anyway unable to break away from that hold the only place I really had was my room. I spent alot of time watching stupid faggot ass shojo anime and ended up getting into futa. Tried to date a gir but couldn't get it up and wasn't even attracted to her. Ended up with the young professional look and alot of repressed problems to work out by the time I was an adult.
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>>8214244
My sister told me that once so I did know but I pretty much assumed it was always easier to pee sitting down since the thought of aiming my dik with my hands didn't occur to me for a while like a retard.
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>>8214057
Telling me it was not ok, and shaming me for it.

I had nightmares about it for a pretty long time.
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>>8214335
What age was this?
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>>8210100
>She said i was probably trans
That's kind of a meme here, you know.
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>>8214310
holy shit this is literally my upbringing, down to the "no long hair" haircuts and father only giving a shit when it was what he wanted.. i feel uuuu :(

add in my mother constantly trying to make me look masculine by buying me button up shirts, commenting on my wide shoulders, talking about my jaw.. fucking most vivid memories i have
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>>8218330
>add in my mother constantly trying to make me look masculine by buying me button up shirts, commenting on my wide shoulders, talking about my jaw
I hated this so, so much. My mom always insisted I was 2 inches taller than I actually am and she would buy me this awful business casual menswear, then get offended that I never wore it.

It sounds super whiny actually writing this down, but little things like that hurt when it's every single day.
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>>8218366
i mean it's different than "my mom made me wear a dumb suit in front of my friends" when it's a deliberate but passive aggressive undermining of your gender identity.. whenever my parents would go out of their way to point out my masculine traits, you could just feel the subtext of "you look like a fucking man, don't kid yourself"

funny thing is my parents are pro gay Obama voting typical Get Out ass types, they'd sit over dinner and talk about how great and enlightened they are and then make me feel like a freak cause i wanted a skirt lol
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>>8218288
like 10 I think.
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>>8209833
Why did you like pretending you didn't have a penis?
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Was part of the scene meme. Pretty sure that's GNC
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>>8218459
>funny thing is my parents are pro gay Obama voting typical Get Out ass types, they'd sit over dinner and talk about how great and enlightened they are and then make me feel like a freak cause i wanted a skirt lol
liberal tolerance.
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>>8209726
what does that have to do with anything?
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