/ftmg/ - female to male general

Tfw no plants

>>8119066
>tfw no ftm bf to impregnate

>>8119153
ew

>>8119153
>be ftm
>ywn impregnate your cis gf

>>8119153
>tfw no cis man whose dick i can slap until he cries like a baby and begs me to stop

>>8119200
>tfw I had this

>tfw ywn have hundreds of bastard children around the globe after cyka'ing blyat's
>ywn pass your genes into population that way
>ywn get to breed until your pepe won't get up anymore
>ywn impregnate a horny slut after good fucking
It sucks man.

>>8119226
And yes, I have a breeding/inpregnation fetish...

>>8119176
hey b b
>>8119177
>tfw ywn cuck the ftm
>>8119200
>tfw not even a cis man

>>8119264
>not even a cis man
mtf?

>>8119289
you bet b b

>>8119307
you better hurry then, your semen isnt gonna last forever.

>>8119307
post tiddies

>>8119329
i think its too late for that
>>8119331
NO

[spoiler]only if you be my bf[/spoiler]

>>8119341
>only if you be my bf
O-okey

>>8119365
hey anon

are you submissive or dominant?

>>8119391
I just want cuddles

>>8119399
where you at anon?

>>8119427
in my house

Has anyone gott some examples of fms? Mainly changing the brow and the chin.

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>>8119489

>>8119433
-____-

>>8119601
:)

>>8119613
i thought we could cuddle ;_;

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>>8119626
oke

>>8119641
n o but b my bf tho and like give me babies

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>>8119660
bebes delivered

>>8119696
>tumblr

anon... pls

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>>8119726

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>>8119545
Checks out

>>8119735
>>8119726
Can you guys not get a room for this?

fun fact.

if an ftm doesnt start testo as a teenager, they will most likely have a funny sounding mickey mouse/cartoon character voice. its anything but manly.

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>>8119767
nah

>>8119835
why won't you get a room with me ;_;

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>>8119846
I want them to watch

>>8119786
If they don't actively train their voice, yeah.

>>8119786
nothing worse than ben barres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODYf7Vz22jQ

he makes aydian dowling's voice sound manly

>>8120351
as a side note I started T at 22 and am 14 weeks and my voice sounds fine. it's already male range. it's not super sexy deep but it's pretty average for a guy my age.

>>8119545
That's a handsome girl.

>>8119177
Worst feel. Nothing else you can do sexually is on the same level of intimacy as impregnating a girl.

>>8120651
because the world needs more mentally ill fugmos.

>>8119177
>>8120651
>Worst feel.
As bad as getting knocked up by your trans gf?

>>8120793
I'd let a trans girl cum in my ass

A transman getting knocked up is a fucking idiot that deserves it.

>>8120629
Rude

I'm thinking of getting a tattoo. Do you guys have any?

>>8122056
yes.
just remember it will be on you for life.
so don't get stupid shit that you will later regret.

>>8118160
Sorry, I posted that around the time I passed out so I didn't get the chance to fully use my brain.

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>>8122056
What design are you thinking of?

Why transition when it hurts the people I love? Why not just an hero?

>>8119904
This is true. Trans guys just need to learn to stop talking in female patterns and also project the voice from deeper in the throat and chest rather than at the back of the throat, which sounds more light and airy and more feminine.
This is why so many trans guys sound like fags, because they don't train their voices so still talk with these female speech patterns as if their voice was still in a female range.
Another thing trans guys on youtube seem to do is talk using way too many "like"s and "um"s while waving their hands around. Don't do this.

>>8122977
You won't transition because it will hurt your loved ones, yet you would become an hero which is certainly going to devastate them? Are you stupid?

>>8122752
>Tfw ywn have tiny man nips

>>8122999
If I make it look like an accident they'll get over it

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>>8119066
Friendly reminder to do your neck curls

>>8123031
fat necks on ftms makes their heads look even smaller

any masc trans guys that would be into an andro/sorta fem mtf?

>>8123051
define masc

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>>8123074
at least to this level or maybe even a bit more boyish. i don't care if your not as attractive or kinda bad looking.

>>8123086
How's agp treating you?

>>8123099
ehh w/e im not agp im just tired of guys who cant empathize with being trans and are a bit ashamed to have me as a gf.

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>>8119066
My orchid is finally blooming after a year of baldness

>>8122987
>>8119904

So is the faggy Buck Angel voice completely correctable with training, or is it somewhat anatomically set if your vocal chords reach a certain age before transitioning?

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Mtfs like being called good girl.
Do ftms like beigng called good boy? Good man? Bad boi?

>>8123161
Should be correctable. Considering cis men can also talk like it, plus I know some trans guys who transitioned pretty early who also have the fag voice. Personally I'd call it a fag accent rather than a fag voice, I don't think it actually has too much to do with the voice chords.

>>8123373
>good boy
>bad boi

lmao those sound like insults

>>8123373
My boyfriend calls me good boy, I love it.

>>8123442
Same. Feelsgoodman. Especially when we fuggin

>>8123373
Daddy

>>8123373

I projectile vomit on the inside when the phrases 'good boy' and 'good girl' are applied to people. That's the kinda shit you say to dogs and toddlers.

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>>8122147
>tfw you tattooed your favourite videogame logo on your forearm and still don't regret it at 21

>>8123527
look at this shit normie opinion lmao

>>8123442
>>8123483
Once my boyfriend told me to masturbate for him and called me a good boy. It was great

>>8123161
I'm pretty sure the buck angel voice is natural. I didn't do vocal training and I sound fine.

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>>8123373
Yes i like being called a good boy and having my head pet and fed treats

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>>8123554
I need an adult

>>8123161
Who is to say you'll even have such a faggy voice to need correcting?
Honestly, I might have heard one or two other FtMs who sound as bad as Buck. But I don't think they care to try and correct it. And correctable it is.
You can learn to speak at a lower register at any age. As I said earlier trans guys who have fag voices need to learn to speak from the chest rather than the top/back of the throat and nose. That's all there is to it.
King Kong Bing Bong exercise should work just fine for you if you keep at it.

>>8123597
I'm telling your mom you're on an 18+ website if you don't leave right now, mister!

>>8123373
I've a (chaser?) coworker dude who calls me "pretty boy" and fuck with my hair.

He's kinda gross and also old, though, so I wouldn't.

>>8123527
>not wanting to be someone's good pup

>>8123497
this

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>small, thin face
>feminine jawline
>girlish lips
>tiny shitfinger hands
>5'6

What is the point of living dudes. The only "masculine" thing about me is that my shoulders are marginally wider than my hips. I'm just starting to transition but I only see myself looking like an abomination.

>>8124410
FMS
Height's not bad
Lips dont matter
Eat more, work out

>>8124410
>What is the point of living
To get on T, then get a D.
But I reckon you'll be fine. I know I was crazy dysphoric early on in my transition. It settles down. You learn to accept that you may not ever be 6ft 3" but you can be a pretty handsome 5ft 6"er with some work, and 'mones of course.
Chin up lad.

>>8124484
>>What is the point of living
>To get on T, then get a D.
This works for mtfs too:
To get on E, then take a D.

>>8123563
I don't know if you're joking. But I genuinely love to have my head patted. Maybe it's my 'tism. I get a lot of odd sensory experiences sometimes.

>>8124494
Not who you replied to but I only like it when it's someone I'm very close to. And then I really enjoy it. Outside of that, it's touch me and you die.

>>8124505
Oh yeah, same. I should've said patted by my BF, because I genuinely am uncomfortable being touched by anyone but him, really. I wasn't hugged very much as a child either, ha.

>>8124530
Yeah, same here, there's just one person I'm comfortable with to be touched. I think I probably was hugged a lot, at least by my grandparents, I just don't really remember liking it.

>>8124410
>5'6
>oh man I wonder what that is in Reasonable Units
>167 cm

Unless you'll become a rockstar and permanently wear heels, just sack up and get some friends that are either your height or just absurdly tall.

What happens if I skip T? Double dose next week?

>>8124639
Why would you intentionally skip your dose?
Just take a regular dose next time though.

>>8124639
Don't double dose. You'll have too much T which will convert back to E. I've heard of people bleeding after missing a dose but that's individual and probably also has to do with how long you've been on T for. Outside of that I don't think anything should change, aside from weird stuff like possibly being very tired and having a low sex drive.

>>8124639
The default behavior for missed doses of medicine is to ignore it and take the next one normally, there are few exceptions to that rule

Like if you ever find yourself in the same situation with other drugs and get the same idea don't double unless your doctor told you you can
>>8124494
>>8124530
Not joking (I mean, joking but also saying the truth) also you're me

How do you bring up transitioning when starting a new job? Upfront, or only when the changes become noticeable?

I go by a male name and dress like a man, but folks just thought I was a butch woman when interviewing. I didn't correct anyone, as I'm not on T yet, so I really can't blame them for the assumption. (I'm from rural bumblefuck, and the career move is largely motivated by wanting to be closer to decent healthcare.)

(I'm a software engineer that will be joining a ~200 person corporate office in a liberal US city, if it makes any difference.)

>>8124838
No clue but it would be certainly easier for your coworkers to switch if they didn't get used to you being a girl yet

Yesterday at my family's Easter dinner, a family friend was talking about how her son's wife is pregnant with a boy, and they're planning on naming him "Aiden Prince LASTNAME". The most tragic ftmeme of a name, and some poor cis baby boy is going to get stuck with it against his will.

>>8125098
>son's wife confirmed for ftm wanting to live vicariously through his child

>5'2"

what do

>>8125159
Same here, my friend. But there's hope for us, I know cis dudes our height.

>>8125159
>5'0
Let's cry together

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>>8125159
>>8125160
>5'2
>both parents are 5'7

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>>8125672
It's bad on so many levels
>never had a chance to not be a manlet in the first place
>had a chance to be less of a manlet and still missed it
>missed the chance to be born with a dick on top of it
>missed the chance to hop on T early and maybe get some growth
amazing

>>8123373
I like when cute girls call me "good boy", yeah
An old chick at work did once and it sent chills down my spine.

>>8125159
Be a mexican

>>8124661
>Why would you intentionally skip your dose?
It's not intentional.

>>8124693
>>8124835
Alright, thanks lads.

>>8123497
>>8124150
Daddy

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>>8125672
>5'3"
>brother one year older than me is 6'1"

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How does an ftm attain the fountainhead of their physical being? Without the majestic spring of pater from which life pours into the well of womanhood can there really be found such a thing as "man"?

>>8124484
>take T
check
>get a D
;_;

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>>8126102
>How does an ftm attain the fountainhead of their physical being?
we don't & try our best not to think about it

>>8126102
no clue i only use my genitals to fap to cartoons anyway

>>8126232
Aesthetic

>>8125255
same :Y the height dysphoria is real

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is it possible for an ftm to be both cute and not just-fuck-my-shit-up/uncanny valley looking like a lot of the ones you see in the media (asking for myself)

>>8127014
yeah i've met plenty cute and passable ftms who i myself would happily fugg

probably some kind of AAP squared thing but who cares

>>8127014
if you have a good face, yeah. rest of the body doesnt really matter if your face looks like a male one, however young. but if you have a round womanly face youre gonna look weird no matter what, so the best choice is to cover it with a beard so no one sees, which doesnt really work if you want to be cute (unless you want to be a cute bear)

>>8126102
I pour the majestic spring of water into the well of the toilet, it'll do

does anyone have pics of trans guys that started T before puberty?

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>tfw you will never be a 5/10 Joe
>tfw you will never be the sweet average height of 5'10
>tfw you can never dare to shave your pube beard as afterwards you will look like a butch dyke.
>tfw you will never pass as cis and will suffer through life as a 1/10 MickeyKaiAiden
>tfw the only option to live a normal life is to detransition and live as your own dream fem gf.

>>8127849
>too masc to be a femboy
>too fem to be a real man

Life is suffering

>>8127014
transition soon cuz after 25 you end up with buck angel / ben barres / zeke "zika virus" smith voice

if T makes you ugly then quit taking it after like 6-12 months (once your voice drops & you pass decently) to keep the cute look

>>8127849
>tfw the only option to live a normal life is to detransition and live as your own dream fem gf.
Tried that, but without the detransitioning part.
It's really dissociating, I wouldn't recommend it.

>>8126758
Yeah, and it doesn't help that my boyfriend likes to tease me for it...

>>8125792
You just described my life
Does T really make you grow though?

>>8127352
Seconding this

>>8128495
hormone blockers upon onset of puberty + starting T youngish = yes, definitely

starting T between 18-25 = maybe 1-2 inches in the torso, but the odds are against you. it does occasionally happen though

starting T after 25 = no

>>8127352
you can't really start T before puberty according to medical standards so what exactly do you mean? the typical route for a young trans person (at least in the US) is hormone blockers upon onset of puberty and then HRT at 16 years old

>>8123373
in the right context yeah
>>8123497
literally anything but this
i die

but i love it when they call me big papa

>>8124838
You can either be up front with HR/manager or let them figure it out on their own.

Found out injecting t heightens your sense of smell as a funny side effect, my family thought I was crazy for smelling cat piss every where in the house that no one could smell. All though they all smoke like chimneys it's fucking disgusting.

>>8128941
>heightens your sense of smell while simultaneously making you stink
well that's just cruel

>5'3"

Why live, lads?

>>8126102
women are subhumans

>>8129776
Wanna trade?

>>8119904
how are trans guys meant to do voice training? i'm an early transitioner and still have a bad voice (not ben barres tier, and i'm not yet at a year on t so there's still a long way to go, but the direction it's going in is shit)
but there are no ftm voice training guides at all anywhere and only the occasional piece of weird advice i can't figure out how to do

>>8128659
dude i would give up so fucking much for just 2 more inches of height

Just slept right through my two hour morning shift. It wasn't even mine, initially, I'd offered to take it from a colleague.

Honestly, just leave me in like, a really deep hole somewhere, christ.

>>8128365
>27
>naturally speak from my chest
should i worry or not

>>8130059
Backwards engineer the MtF ones maybe?

How do I find a transguy bf to love me and fug me and take me out to restaurants or to watch a film or to play vidya with me??
t. transgirl

>>8130059
Look up king kong bing bong exercise and stick to it as well as generally trying to speak deeper.

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I've been interested in/with a few ftm. What are some things that would make you feel more comfortable in a potential relationship?
Just looking for the 'inside scoop'

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Things are looking good at last, bros. I'm so happy
>18
>unemployed and about to finish highschool
>next year family is moving out lf the city and into the countryside
>mom says she'll help me rent an appartment in the city if I get friends to rent it with me
>trans treatment and meds are free here
>mfw I can finally start transitioning
I won't have money for a while to buy new clothes for a while, but looking like an awkward guy with women's clothes is better than just being 100% girl
I'm so happy, I haven't felt this light and nice in forever

>>8130273
There's no general guideline for this, just be open to learn and listen to your bf's concerns. Also if you're gonna fuck ask him what he feels comfortable with and whatnot

>>8130330
He's usually the one fucking me.
So just make sure to listen to him as much as I can? I can do that~

Uhh hey dudes mtf here

Idk if this is a weird question or not, but can any of you tell me the difference in sensation between vaginal and anal sex, and the difference between a vaginal and anal orgasm?
From your perspectives obviously


I'm been on hrt for like 3 years and I've never gotten one of the "female orgasms" a lot of other transwomen rave about, so if you all could tell me
The difference between your pre and post T orgasms that would be great too.


I'm just trying to get a feel for what I'm missing, the paltry dick orgasms I've had sucked and we're basically the same as when I was a teenage boy (sensation on dick>ejaculation>feel good for a couple seconds>done)
Also, I hope I'm not intruding in your space at all!!!! >_<

>>8130176
What's the point of a two hour shift?

>>8130509
It's a rush hour thing, none of our shifts are longer than 5hrs because it's outside work and whatnot. It's only like, twenty hours a week to begin with.

>>8130479
I don't think most people can achieve orgasm without also touching their dicks. At least for me that's how it is. Never had any kind of "hands free" orgasm going on, sadly. So it kind of all feels the same to me, except varying in intensity depending on what kind of sex I'm having.
I don't think there's much difference in how I orgasm now from masturbating VS when I was pre-T either.
Never had any kind of full-body sensation. It's all focused in the genital region, although the soles of my feet tingle afterwards. That's about it.

>>8130059
You don't need FtM guides specifically, just general voice deepening

>>8130479
Anal sex does nothing for me and I've never came from either.

I personally haven't really noticed a difference in how orgasms feel but I get there quicker, doesn't take nearly as long to fap now.

>>8119786
I started T at 21 and my voice ended up just fine thank you very much.

Sorry if this is considered rude/improper, but is it considered gay to fuck a trans male as a male? He looks quite feminine and I'm pretty sure he still has a vag

>>8131765
yes

>>8131765
if a dude is fucking a dude that is gay, is it not?

>>8131765
Are you attracted to him for the feminine appearance or does he actually pass?

>>8131778

not if hes qt

>>8131765
i mean, no

if his body's feminine and has a vag, totally within heterosexual purview to be attracted to that body - but if you're ROMANTICALLY interested in him and his personality etc, then yeah it's gay

>>8131765
Really depends on what you mean by feminine and if you actually see him as male or not

>>8130178
I'm also 27 and I get the feeling my voice will sound fine after T to be honest. I rarely talk in that constricted feminine way and I think being on T would make me notice it even more when I do (I pretty much only do it when I bump into someone and say sorry, stuff like that where I want to be really unnoticible and polite. It's a habit that I have bene gradually getting rid of anyway)

>>8125974
Actually where I live there are alot of men who are around 5'2"ish, give or take a few inches. I meet alot of grown men who are my height or shorter or only slightly taller. And it's mostly Mexican people here. So not bad advice honestly. brb moving to Mexico

>>8130059
read the Hudsons ftm guide. Been on T for 7 years and my voice is deep as fuck thanks to family. Sometimes my voice makes shit vibrate in my room if I speak low

>>8132139
Doesn't mexico also have free market for chemicals, OTC medicines that are prescription-only in other countries? I heard somebody mention you can get test OTC. Fucking dreamland if you dodge the drug cartels

>>8130479
Not sure if FtM but I have extensive experience with masturbation as a female bodied person of very little color

>sensation on dick>ejaculation>feel good for a couple seconds>done
That's how female orgasm feel for me desu except I don't ejaculate and get mild vag spasms

Anal sex is kinda similar to vaginal but "softer" and vaginal sex is kinda like getting fucked in an inside out clit really, there are subtle differences in sensation but at the end of the day sex will feel like sex no matter how I do it

I once accidentally tied a rubberband on my finger in a way that allowed blood to go in but not out and it felt strangely like a boner (without the erotic part of the sensation) so now I'm convinced most of the sensations you associate with sex are just more blood getting into your genitals and tissue swelling really and it probably accounts for most of the difference in sensation (since your ass doesn't get erect obviously)

That said I'm not some kinda pussy doctor so I might be talking out of my figurative ass

Orgasms themselves feel completely the same for me regardless of source

Most of the time they're really underwhelming but also most of the time nowadays I fap out of habit or just to get sex stuff out of my mind and not for fun


No clue about T I'm not on it

>>8129776
5'7 I am the king of manlets

Anyone else here prefer taking it in the butt to the vag?

>>8132436
I don't understand anal sex, how is it pleasurable at all?
I came to terms with having a cunt and I find the body\genitals mismatch kind of a turn on for me t b q h

how does the flavoe/amount/consistency of your cum change after t? bc my boyfriend is about to start and he hella squirts

im into cum+fluids but it kind of sucks when im giving him head so im hoping theres less

>>8130059
pre-t here, but reliably gendered as male thanks to voice training:

find a singer just below your voice range and sing it. breathe out through your diaphragm and pull the resonance down into your chest. put you hand over your throat and just try shit out until you can feel your chest vibrating, then keep doing that

over time your voice will go lower and lower. just keep at it man.

>>8132139
I blame my Mexican background for why I'm so short. Unfortunately, being British, it's not very common so I say I have Italian history too.

>>8130479
Orgasms are a very inexact science, it's difficult to study and a good chunk of it is mental. Like, you can have orgasms and you can have kinda shitty orgasms and you can have great orgasms and that's true regardless of your body and hormones, it has much more to do with buildup and surroundings. Most natal females (such as >>8132183)
don't get "full body orgasms" just from rubbing one out, just like most natal females don't just have double or triple climaxes, or natal males automatically enjoy anal just because of the prostate. A full body orgasm generally requires other types of stimulation as well, and generally also the right mindspace.

One thing to try is edging, it's among the easiest ways to actually play around with sex and requires very little coordination and no tools or toys.

Sexplanations on youtube is good for inspiration, or examining how you relate to your body. Even as an avid mastrubator.

Personally, my orgasms have changed; I have a shorter buildup but also a shorter climax. I get wetter, but I also come down much quicker in terms of pure physical sensation (I used to ride it out a bit more, now I experience very little pleasurable sensation right after orgasm). My sensations downstairs have changed in a way I personally prefer; I no longer need as much precision, which is nice, and I also enjoy penetration marginally more, though I still haven't explored it a lot.

>>8132534
I feel you, my dude. Anyway, my friend with more anal-experience explained it like he can feel his g-spot through anal penetration, or he's maybe even developed a prostate. He's not sure. Most natal males aren't going to orgasm from purely anal either so, y'know.

>>8132572
I got dryer briefly but now I'm decently wetter, though I also smell more so y'know. I'm curious about squirting though, you make it sound like ejaculation comes naturally to him? Does it always happen regardless of stimuli? Has he always done it or did he need to train?

>>8132875
>Has he always done it or did he need to train?

i taught him with blowjobs (he never did before we started dating and it spontaneously happened one time and now its regular)

im cool with musk and wetness but having to literally drink his ejaculate in multiple gulps to keep up is unappealing in reality even if him cumming so much is hot in concept

>>8133001
...wrong thread?

>>8132965
So he can't turn it off? Honestly, I really want to learn to do it.

>>8133001
your skin's good but will need ffs and still might not pass. how tall are you? if you're not very tall it could be alright

>>8133016
ive cum like that before a few times and what triggers it is clenching your abdomen and pelvic floor, try clenching next time u orgasm and itll prolly feel different and maybe u cum

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>>8119066
Cis gay guy here. Just found out today that the most autistic girl from my high school is now actually an FtM. Are you guys really super autistic like him?

>>8133098
A study showed that FtM trannies have the highest autism quotient, unless it's a coincidence that happens to occur that often there must be a correlation, in some way.
"Not all autistic girls are FtM, but all FtM are autistic girls". Jokes aside, I'm FtM and with non-meme, non assburger autism. In the high functioning spectrum because I scored high on IQ tests throughout my entire life, but I'm fucking retarded for anything that's not matching patterns and chemistry.

>>8133237
>non assburger autism
What's the real difference?

>>8133278
nyart, but terminology. It's called a spectra for a reason, aspergers is autism with less (easily noticeable) symptoms.

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Did you get "he"d today?

>>8133278
Pretty much what >>8133362 said. Assburgers are the "weird" kids that might look off but are closer to normal people, and have non-impaired language skills. High-IQ autism is like autism minus the cognitive retardation, but language is often impaired and body language is absent.Then it's a spectrum so manifestations may vary, but high functioning autism is more easily pinpointed as autism, while assburger can appear as just being an odd one.

>>8133098
i mean, it's called a spectrum for a reason. a lot of ftms are, but the ones here are generally at least normie-passing

>>8133445
>>8133362
hivemind

>>8133098
>one possible cause of autism is the "extreme male brain" aka over-exposure to testosterone in the womb
>a segment of female who act and behave like males also have unprecedented rates of autism

Really makes ya think

>>8133098
I'm a stealth non-sperg autist, and when I was going through some evaluations/research at a nearby university, they did ask about my sexual orientation and gender identity. I've heard that there's allegedly a correlation between mental nuances and LGBT-ness. Also left-handedness, though my autism personally megafucks all spatial awareness to the point of accidental ambidexterity.

>>8133385
i he'd my bf also id rly like some feedback on what his cum is gonna be like post-t thanks god bless

>>8133529
But mtfs are also autistic, though not as much.

>>8133849
i've heard different reports of people drying up or getting wetter in general on t, so no guarantees either way there

smell and tastewise it should get a bit 'manlier' and be largely dictated by his diet as beforehand

>>8133879
actual autism or meme autism?

>>8134316
Actual, only not as common as for ftms.

my bf is ftm i love him lol

>>8134543
:)

>>8134543
wow. mtf or twink?

>>8134587
uh neither?

>>8134601
ohhhh. cis girl. should have known.

>>8134616
i'm a cis bi male. what are you insinuating

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Why are MTFs all such size queens, most non-trans gay guys are a million times less judgy, at least in my experience.

>>8135747
sorry meant FTM

>>8135747
cuz u gotta dick for 2 boo sry if yr wiener is too small to fill the wiener shaped hole in my heart and my butt at the same time

>>8136085
bummer, i'm about to date a FTM hope i don't develop some kind of complex.

What's the worst trans experience you've had?

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>>8136210
>be me, 20 y/o ftm, 2 months on T
>at fire with 5 friends, a random spot near a resevoir, we have beer
>random groups of people always show up here, on a given night maybe 3 or 4 groups of people roll through
>two guys roll up, introductions
>"hi, my name's [male name]"
>dude immediately shoots back "you're not a real man"
>No-sell it. Never been clocked that easily. This dude's late twenties and rolled up to the spot with no booze and hanging out with a kid around my age
>total loser
>he proceeds to stand there while my group of friends looks for wood
>hes got no booze
>after about 10 minutes of staring into the fire while his buddy used his phone he says
>"i'm not gonna stand here with some man-lady" or something to that effect and leaves

What makes it shitty is this experience contributed to an acid trip that went bad because I was not at all in the right mindset for it.

>>8136424
>>dude immediately shoots back "you're not a real man"
>>No-sell it. Never been clocked that easily.
Huh, wonder how he did it.

>>8136424
>"you're not a real man"
neither was he if he was creeping around kids

>>8131293
>>8131591
>>8132183
>>8132875
thanks alot you guys, I appreciate you replying
I didn't used to masturbate at all, but i thought i should try and "explore my body more" so in the last six months or so, Ive been trying to masturbate, but when I do orgasm (which is only happening lately because I was off HRT for a bit) it sucks.

the head space thing, makes me thing I'm either asexual, or I wont have any decent orgasms unless I'm having actual sex (as in with another person)
i'm a virgin though, so i dont know for sure, but I'm hoping thats the case

I really appreciate you all replying, it helps me alot!!!
>>8130330
congrats man, being able to start transitioning is really nice, and yeah looking like a weird guy in ladies clothes will be way better than being a girl
(just like being a weird girl in man clothes was better than being a man, lol)

>>8136210
being born with a pepee.

>>8136619
are you a boy (girl) or a girl (boy)?

>>8136644
I'm a girl (male)

>>8136657
can I have your peepee pls

>>8136665
yes you can.

>>8136675
Thank you

Hi guys. Can I get an opinion on >>8133599
Is it possible to remove breast tissue yourself without dying? I'm thinking I can remove it, prevent blood loss, then go to the emergency room for stitches. How bad is plan/rate pls.

>b-but nipples
Fuck pancake nipples. I can get tattoos. And it's not like I can go shirtless with top surgery scar anyway.

>>8136210
being born

>>8136798
oh shit someone made that joke already nevermind me

>>8136750
There were cases where people performed mastectomy on themselves but the procedure is way more complicated than just cutting your balls off it's not really comparable

>remove it, prevent blood loss, then go to the emergency room for stitches. How bad is plan/rate pls.
1/10 stitches are arguably the easiest part

>>8136814
>1/10 stitches are arguably the easiest part
How so? I'm thinking if I get shaky from blood loss or get shock stitches will be an issue.

I wish they could amputate my peepee too and give it to one of you dickless ftmbros
Shit sucks for both of us :c
t. a mtf tran

>>8136750
Literally why, top surgery is cheap as fuck compared to the 20,000$ ER bill you will get for a surgeon taking five minutes to sew you up. Also, you can't do it because you will never make it look aesthetically pleasing meaning you will leave in a bunch of breast tissue some places and it will look like complete shit, you will have a giant ER bill, and you'll still have to get top surgery afterwards to fix it.

>>8137137
>american health care
>not even once

Top surgery with Dr Salgado in 13 days! I am so excited.

Pre op exam with my GP today.

>>8137192
I hate you

Just came to the realisation that the only reason why I thought I was ftm in the first place was 100% 'the grass is greener on the other side'. Now I'm stuck with the same self hatred of myself but no possible out. cool.

>>8137223
Are you fully transitioned or are you trender scum?

>>8137231
Over-compensated by wearing make-up and enjoying the company of girls as friends. Was uncomfortable when a girl would collectively refer to the group as 'the girls' or 'we women'. Told maybe 2 people and left it as a 'still thinking about it, don't change my pronouns so there's no social ripple thanks'.

Just met someone I haven't seen since I started transitioning. She commented on my voice being deeper. I always get a bit nervous around people like that because I don't want them to out me to any friends they might be with which will probably happen anyways since they don't know I'm trans either. What do about situations like that? Just pull them aside immediately?

>>8137223
>people confusing low self esteem/shitty body image for gender dysphoria
I was just saying something about this in a previous thread. At least be happy you're not the type that goes all out asking for name/pronoun changes and garnering attention while clearly putting no effort into making the adjustment to living as a guy. I can't imagine how hard it is for those types to be taken seriously by others when they finally figure out they were just performing a series of mental gymnastics.

Anyone else coming to the conclusion that they're going to look like a teenage boy forever? Or until we start getting wrinkles and leather skin that makes us look like old worn out butch dykes.

>>8137270
Yep. But I've met a fair amount of cis dudes without prominent facial features that make them look older. They're gonna look like children forever too. Plus, there's the meme about guys shaving and suddenly looking young as fuck. I don't think it's gonna be all that bad, even if it's kinda bad.

>>8137256
If you don't say anything they'll reach the right conclusion. People are wising up to the trans thing. I haven't said jack to my coworkers since starting T and they've figured me out. Have a conversation on your own terms or don't, either way you're another one of those wacky transgendereds.

You guys are cucks.

>>8137277
That's what I thought at first too but there's the fact that not everyone might realize since a lot of people don't really know about trans people where I live. Maybe I'm just overthinking it but a lot of people I've met only after transitioning have asked me what's up with my voice and only realized I was trans after I told them.

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>>8137280

Bigger ftm advice on jeans? I just can't find jeans that make my curves go away. I've already resulted to wearing hoodies all the time one size up but im still wearing girl jeans because mens jeans are either too small or too long.

>>8137291
Do what normal weird shaped guys do, buy the longer jeans and either get em hemmed or do it yourself.

>>8137192
Congrats!!!

>>8123117
If it helps, I'd accept you. I know its not easy.

Are ftms more alpha or more beta than the average male?

>>8137333
Average male on 4chan as a whole? More alpha.
Average male in general? More beta.

>>8137333
Depends if it's a low test nu male you're comparing the ftm to or not.

>>8137333
Personally I'm like, at least an epsilon

>>8137333
I have the personality of an alpha male in an extreme faggot/beta body literally equipped with a vagina.

The only thing going against me is that I love getting fucked, but I'm pretty sure if I had a dick I would equally be fucking people so eh.

>>8137291
>Bigger FTM
Go to the gym, fatty. Nonetheless, I have the opposite problem. Women's jeans are always too long for me because I'm a shortass even by girl standards, with men's pants I can actually look for and actually find my leg and waist measurements.

Well,
>waist
More like somewhere between waist and hips because that's a whole different battle.

>>8137333
I'm beta unfortunately but I intimidate people due to the colour of my skin and how I dress. Plus I'm only 5'7

>>8137291
Don't buy larger jeans. They will make you look even bigger. In the long term work on losing weight. It will be common to find the size and you will lose your curves.

I had a weight problem until several years of t and eating right with minimal exercise.

>>8137743
how do you dress and what color?

>>8137880
I'm betting black and like a nigger. Then again it could be brown and like a sand-nigger. People are easily scared nowadays.

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>>8133098
>>8133529

>Are you guys really super autistic like him?

yes

pic related. AQ = "Autism Quotient"

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>>8137928
here this ones labeled more clearly

I cant wait to get my top surgery this year so I can stop fucking up my ribs/lungs with binders

Don't really want to ask on /fit/, you guys might know though...

What body fat % is an ftm realistically able to achieve? Will this change on hrt?

How will my body fat relocate (if at all) when I start T?

Truth be told I'm aiming for ottermode/skinny twink body, but not sure how well it's going to work out with a body etc that is biologically female...

>>8137625
What makes you an alpha male? What's your personality like?

>top surgery is at 2pm
>will drive 2-3 hours to hospital
>can't eat after midnight before

I'm gonna puke in the car, lads.

>>8138151
Pre-t, go with female %. After t, go with male %. I've heard what happens is nothing, as long as you don't lose weight. If you lose and then regain it, it'll go into male locations afterwards though.

I just ate a family size bag of Doritos and i want to kms

Reading this thread is sort of making me want to detransition.

>>8119545
who dis qt?

>>8138329
Your will is weak.

>>8138329
w-why

>>8138257
A male body fat % is actually achievable on T?

>>8138392
Yeah, why not? It's all based off hormones. I also know a dude who's been on T for a couple of years, he recently checked his fat % and it was way too low for a woman even though he's healthy. So he checked for male standards and it was alright there.

Discussing my mom's death with dad. People say I'm spitting on her grave by doing this
( .____.)

>>8138420
those people are dipshits

>>8138446
She's still dead though

>>8138420
>People say I'm spitting on her grave by doing this
how?

>>8138640
by destroying my 'feminine sides'

>>8138658
"she wanted me to be happy. she didn't want me to be forced to be feminine"?

>>8138702
"She was a tomboy. You can be a tomboy too"

>>8138731
"she didn't let her sex limit her. i won't either."

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Making cabbage-meat pudding, shoved a bunch of wite beans into it to make the meat last longer. What are you lads eating tonight? Do you like cooking?

>>8138658
They're projecting their frustrations about her death onto you. It's bullshit; you are not your mother. Regardless of whether you're a woman/feminine or not.

>>8138736
good one

>>8138738
sure but that's always the case though

dude why are you stuffing pudding you perv

>>8138738
>They're projecting their frustrations about her death onto you.
i think more likely they're using her death to justify their dislike of her transition. if they couldn't use her, they'd find some other excuse for why he shouldn't transition.

>>8138782
all the best winning them over anon.

>>8138800
>her transition

>>8138828
fuck, i'm mtf and i always fuck up ftm pronouns
>kill me

>>8138387
Transitioned late for our standards, not tall enough and I'm not into men.

>>8138915
When did you transition and how tall are you?

>>8138915
I repeat: your will is weak.
I'm 5'1" and 23, didn't start T until a few weeks ago. I'm not going to be a 6'0" alpha Chad and I know that. I just can't stomach living as a woman and would rather be a shota dickless manlet than a girl. Part of the process is accepting the realization of it. Although you should've known this before you started transitioning.

And as for the dating thing, bisexuals tend to be pretty open to dating FtMs.

Prove to me, in three sentences or less, that you are a man.

It's just a fun game, give it a try.

>>8139088
>It's just a fun game, give it a try.
that's what uncle said before he made me suck his dick

>>8139088
fucking girls is great.
women are sluts.
men do things better.

>>8139131
Pass

>>8139167
No chance, boyo.

>>8139186
>No chance, boyo.
jokes on you i'm an mtf all along, so thanks!

>>8139214
do you wanna be my gf

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>>8139088
Daddy always said I was his little man

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>>8139321
Get these to grow your own prostate and dick
It worked for me, I'm chinese now

>>8139088
i like traps but i'm not gay

>>8139321
are you a dogkin

>mfw nurses and physicians assistants compliment on your scars
>Mfw they ask who did it
>Mfw when I have no face
Out of towners on top of that too. Usually rural folks aren't so kind about being trans.

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>>8139582
>compliment on your scars

>>8139088
no

>>8139582
maybe they were asking who tried to stab you through the chest twice?

>>8139326
>>8139456
>>8139833
You all pass, but it might be because I'm drunk and high.

420 Sieg Heil

>>8139088
No.

I currently plan to start testosterone sometime soon and I'm confident about it and I've done research and everything. I'm excited but also low key having doubts. like what if I end up feeling like I made a mistake? but I also have a feeling that If I don't take this step now then I'll just keep having the waves of feeling unhappy. Thoughts?

>>8139088
I don't have to prove anything to you.

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>>8139947
thanks

>>8139984
You won't know until you try.
How do you feel about the effects of detransitioning, if you take that route later?

>>8139950
>>8139987
Well done, proving things by refusing to prove anything. Makes the ol' brain nugget wiggle.

>>8139984
i feel the same way a lot of the time.

you could try and start with a low dose, which will be more or less reversible (and probably better in the long run).

>>8140001
The thought of detransitioning scares me. I hope that doesn't happen. The thought of finally doing it makes me happy at least. And I think the only surgery I may have is top surgery, and that costs a lot. My therapist recommended me to probably start T first before doing top surgery.

>>8140020
Yeah, thats kind of my plan so far

>>8140032
Why does it scare you? Because you'll feel like it was a mistake and you wasted time? Maybe it's what you needed to really sort yourself out.
That's how I recommend looking at this whole process.

Anyway, you'll probably start off at a low dose anyway. The doctor might recommend you go higher, but you can just let them know that you're fine staying at a low dose.

>>8140083
Thinking about it that way makes me feel better
thank you anon :)

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I just said the most vicious thing to a post-op ftm who I thought was leading me on.

gay male btw

>>8140688
what'd you say?

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>>8140688
Did he cry?

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>>8140694
he contacted me twice and the same thing happened both times
I'm used to gay hookups
>grindr chat
>number
>location
>meetup
don't get the location both times so I'm feeling peeved and mean, so i send this.

>>8140802
savage

>>8140802
doesn't seem like you regret it lol

he seems pretty normal just from that reaction though

>>8140802
why did he not give u a location

>>8140802
Why don't you suggest a location?

Although if you said that kind of shit from feeling a bit frustrated, you're not ready to hookup with a trans person anyway. That guy indirectly dodged a bullet.

>>8140875
beats me every time it came to the "can i have your location" he'd stop texting or make up an excuse that would force me to wait around for an indefinite amount of time, it felt like the kind of shit girls do so i called him out

>>8139582
Some nurses are just like what are thoose

>>8140925
>Why don't you suggest a location?
you host?/i'll host is what I'm used to, and he said his place was fine earlier.

and he's supposed to be a man so he could have suggested something.

>>8140944
>Cissy gets triggered
>"You're not a real man, haha, boys don't cry"
>Goes to whine about it on the internet

He def dodged a bullet.

>>8140688
>post-op
Why do you want the corndog dick

>>8138946
10 weeks, 5'5''.
I feel like everything's not enough. I'm just mad.

>>8140944
>pulling the 'you're not a real man' card over a flaky hookup

you wouldn't make the same comment to a cis guy and it's intended specifically to hurt the guy by targeting a part of his life he probably already feels pretty shitty about

so yeah, dick move

>>8141008
your second puberty has barely started

have some patience

>>8140997
>>8141009
he wants to be a man (a gay man no less) and i expected him to act like a gay man. I really just wanted to share my comment, I caught a 19 year old twink 30mins later.

>>8141002
Morbid curiosity to see a franken-dick up close

>>8141061
Why whine about it on a thread specifically filled with ftms though

>>8140944
You're supposed to be a man too, anon.
Judging by >>8140932, he either wasn't serious or this was his first real hookup and he got scared.

You could easily be annoyed with his behavior without pulling the "hurrhur real man" card. Guys do this shit too, it's not a girl thing.

>>8141061
You were only hooking up to see his dick?
Anon I'm trying to be sympathetic to your situation but you're a major asshole.

>>8119066
I'm afab, have had body dysphoria for years but don't label myself as anything. I wear men's clothing but I'm still perceived as a woman.
thought about taking hormones, but I would lose my hair for sure because of my shit genetics.
I have a (internet) boyfriend who cares about me, but he treats me as a woman which I still have issues with.
The truth is I don't want to transition because it is an imperfect solution, but I just don't know how else to deal with the feeling your body isn't right.

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>>8141082
>Why whine about it on a thread specifically filled with ftms though
i'm not whining tho

It's more of a cautionary tale for other FtMs

>>8141113
I don't go on grindr because I am not desperate for HIV

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>>8141093
>this was his first real hookup
probably with his new franken dick, that just makes it better.

>>8141113
Grindr is for degenerate fags and I don't wanna fuck men

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>>8141208
>>8141208
>>8141208

>>8139428
>grow prostate
???????????????????