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Why are non-passing transwomen called hons? I've always

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Why are non-passing transwomen called hons? I've always wondered where this word came from.
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>>8100870
Because passing isn't necessary, honey
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>>8100882
lol
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>>8100870
They stereotypically use pet names with each other, like honey, sweetie, pumpkin, etc. Think of it like an over-correction for having mingled with men all their lives, whose pet names consist of faggot, faggot and faggot.
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>>8100870
"You look fine, hon. You totally pass, and anyone who says otherwise is just jealous!"
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>>8100870
It comes from susans mostly
Pro-tip: don't go there
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>>8100898
Unfortunately, that's also a southern thing, so as a tranny from Texas it's really hard to avoid using it lol
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>>8100898
Aww, pumpkin is actually cute
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>>8100900
>>8100899
Checked.

Also, i hear this a lot about susans. What's the problem with it? And what's the problem with hons?
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>>8100921
One word: hugboxing
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>>8100921
It's not a real problem. It's just us making fun of honest good people, not unlike any other slur.
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>>8100921
Have you seen the hon stories threads? There were a few last year I think
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>>8100921

The problem with Susan's is they are the antithesis of early transition, for themselves or anyone else. They don't permit any information about self-medding and if you post there as as a minor, they'll tell you you're too young and need to think it over more first (like once puberty has fucked you over). In contrast, /lgbt/ will help minors by giving them info to let them know all their options and the timeframe they have to work with. It's a shame Susan's was the first of the two to exist, and by a relatively large span of time. A kid who comes across /lgbt/ is much luckier than one who comes across Susan's.
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>>8101217
>A kid who comes across /lgbt/ is much luckier than one who comes across Susan's.
Unless someone tells them they are illegitimately trans and tricks them into repression just the same as Susan's.
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>>8101217
>tfw you were the kid who came across Susans
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>>8101420
Hmm, really? When has that happened? What kind of sadistic bully would want to do that?
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>>8101441
Honestly, I feel sorry for cara.
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>>8101439
>tfw come across Susans at like 11
>make first few posts there, mention age
>get banned for some reason, don't really know why
>come across reddit instead

I lucked out, hard. I still don't know why I was banned.
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>>8101460
when did you transition, anon?
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>>8101449
I feel sorry for his victims.
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>>8101441
jesus christ imagine if cara put this much effort into transitioning and taking care of herself she would look flawless
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>>8101449
feel sorry all you want, just remember that just because she has a face and a quirky style of posting, she has no more feelings that than the countless anonymous victims she torments to pass time on this board.

Cara may be a person, but so are her victims. People need to recognise this and stop falling for her blatant manipulation.
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>>8101486
Tumblr tier post
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>>8101470
Right, nothing justifies the stalking and shit she did, but still. She clearly suffered a lot in her life. What could've shaped her into what she is today? I mean, she's lost everything. Her family, her education, even her opportunity to transition early. It must be hell for her. She probably doesn't have friends, either.

I really just want to reach out and help her :/

>>8101486
What she does is wrong, but those are just words. I'm trans and just let her words slide off my back.
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>>8101217
Susans (and hons in generals) actually HATE early transitioners but won't say it openly, instead they will tell they care about "young's people health" or some bullshit.

There is a prominent transgender support group in my area that's actually only for susans-tier very old hons. They have a policy of not welcoming anyone getting HRT from informed consent clinics. However transgender clinics for youth are almost all informed consent and younger trans people requesting HRT elsewhere will usually get referred to these clinics.
The hons groups rationale are that informed consent providers are nothing but "pushers" who are tricking younger people to start hormones against their will or some similar crazy conspiracy theory.

>>8101441
>>8101449
This screenshot has nothing to do with cara AFAIK
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>>8101449
>>8101479
i didn't make that post, i've only been here since 2015. and i have nothing invested from the people at /mtfg/.
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>>8101506
>even her opportunity to transition early.
and now others must be tricked into losing theirs.
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>>8101517
Why do they hate early transitioners? That's really sad :( I would never have transitioned if an older trans woman hadn't helped me. She literally saved my life.
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>>8101530
>others must be tricked into losing theirs
What happened?
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>>8101498
fuck off edgelord

>>/b/

>>8101506
They may be just words, but a dedicated enough operator can achieve a lot with just words. It's a shame when another confused tranny falls for Cara's lies, delays transitioning and sets themselves up for hondom all because Cara didn't get what they want. A bully has their own issues, but a bully is still a bully who has a negative effect on everyone around them regardless.

also, there's a reason why Cara got the fate she has now. See pic related
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>>8101530
I'm not sure where this meme is coming from seeing as I've been the only person here actively campaigning for (true) early transitioning and helping tweens into transnationing. The only people I've come up against are true fakes and mainly in the 18+ bracket
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>>8101554
Neck yourself subhuman.

>>8101521
>i've only been here since 2015
Not surprised that the biggest shitposters are all newfaggots.
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>>8101558
18+ site blah blah blah. MODS
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>>8101554
>another confused tranny falls for Cara's lies, delays transitioning and sets themselves up for hondom
Has this happened? Why does she do it?

Also, just curious, but when does one become a hon?
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>>8101540
>Why do they hate early transitioners?
Jealousy, what do you think?

Also, I know it's #notallhons, some older trans women are really kind and helpful
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>>8101521
Go back to >>>/g/
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>>8101571
the only public trans figure that I can think of off the top of my head that doesn't advocate early transitioning is blaire white and she is early 20s and passing.(INB5 >blaire white passing >laughingelfman.jpeg ahahaha nice one aynon)
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>>8101558
>le true transitioning
Fuck off with this shit, seriously. It's an agenda pushed by batshit insane attention whoring mothers who want their personal tranny doll so they fuck up their sons and rape their body with unnatural hormones, so by the age of 16 they'll end up chemically castrated and with a micropenis, there's no way back even if they regret it afterwards. Kikes push this shit too because it effectively means white people not breeding.

If you have a hon-tier bone structure by the time you reach adulthood, then just don't transition, simple as that.
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>>8101554
>It's a shame when another confused tranny falls for Cara's lies, delays transitioning and sets themselves up for hondom all because Cara didn't get what they want.
The shame isn't on Cara. When a dog mauls a child the murderer is the owner
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>>8101591
This is what people are talking about when we say that there's an issue with late transitioners that has to be dealt with.
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>>8101618
There's a problem with trannies period. But mothers who push their children into transitioning because they like dolls or dresses or whatever the fuck should be killed. Like not even a prison sentence, actually fucking kill them.
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>>8101589
There is a difference between "not advocating early transition" and literally trying to stop all kind of early transition, including puberty blockers. All the while with her popularity she is trying to act like an authority figure to her "alt-right" fans because she actually is the token tranny.

Also
>INB5 >blaire white passing >laughingelfman.jpeg ahahaha nice one aynon
That's actually true...
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>>8100870
LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS
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>>8101654
Blaire White passes better than literally any tranny on this entire board.
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>>8101641
>mothers who push their children into transitioning because they like dolls or dresses
Nice meme anon. Did you know that government use chemtrails to turn the frogs gay?
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>>8101571
>Jealousy
Would they really go out of their way to ruin lives due to jealousy? Wow, that's horrible. You'd think someone who lived through the pain of not passing would try to save others from their fate.
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>>8101671
Well you should've made it more clear I was talking to some American subhuman who is unable to debate any given topic without resorting to SA tier cringey sarcasm.
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>>8101546
He tells people who are questioning that their dysphoria is false and they shouldn't transition.
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>>8101670
This is how I imagine anyone who "fights" for Blaire White on here.
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>>8101530
How do you define early transition?
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>>8101717
You're welcome to go ahead and prove me wrong you ugly fuck.
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>>8101714
>tfw you've successfully convinced younger trannies not to transition
>tfw you've called the parents of young trannies to report their self medding
>tfw they'll grow up to be hons
feels good man. i'll have more company to join me in this misery. they shouldn't get the life i was denied just because they were born in a better time
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>>8101722
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>>8101750
Yeah that face pretty much represents the amount of passability of trannies on /lgbt/. Show me ONE that passes better than Blaire, literally just one.
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>>8100870
It stems from 420chan's /cd/ board and was originally made up to describe late transitioning and non-passing trans women on boards like Susan's that intentionally spread disinformation and had a warped view on pretty much everything.

It was a very specific term back then, now it's just another transphobic slur used mostly by bitter, self-loathing trans women to both describe themselves and hurt non-passing trans women in general. Really shows you how mentally fucked and toxic most trans people on this board are.
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>>8101736
Why should their lives be ruined just because yours was?
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>>8101670
>T. Blaire

>>8101683
First of all I'm not american. Anyway the mere idea that children are put into transition just because they "like dresses and dolls" is an Alex Jones-tier conspiracy theory.

Also daily reminder that:
- Transition is always supposed to be done under medical supervision
- ESPECIALLY for young children, they need a psychologist and/or a psychiatrist approval before transition
(yes, they actually make sure they don't have crazy parents who are pushing them to transition)
- No kind of medical transition are made on children apart for puberty blockers when they need them
- Puberty blockers and hormones are two different things. Puberty blockers are fully reversible and are used to delay puberty. In the case of very young transition, hormones come way later
- Medical transition and social transition also are two different things. The super-early transitioners you see on media are just socially transitioned, medical transition only come later
- Genital surgery is ONLY done when they are 18 or older, unless under very special circumstance.
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>>8101756
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7484666/#7489481
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>>8101765
>disinformation
What did they say?

> Really shows you how mentally fucked and toxic most trans people on this board are.
Agreed. I honestly hate this board. I don't even know why I'm still here.
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>>8101756
>literally just one
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>>8101770
No. Also
>snapchat angle and blurred eyes
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>>8101766
Why not? i missed the train by just a few years for something i couldn't control. they shouldn't live in happiness while i rot in misery
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>>8101756
>just one
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>>8101756
>ONE that passes better than Blaire
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>>8101756
blaire is a hon
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>>8101780
I mean I've spoken to her in other venues and she passes. But you're not going to believe me and you'll just keep numaling all over me with your obsession with Blaire.

pic related also posts here
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>>8101786
>they shouldn't live in happiness
Why not?
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>>8101807
because it pleases me to see them suffer. feels like justice.
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>>8101815
Wouldn't justice be stopping what happened to you from happening again?
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>>8101756
>literally just one
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>>8101828
Nah. watching them live the life i should've had, while i live every day in despair? fuck that.
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>>8101756
>Show me ONE
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>>8101756
>literally
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>>8101836
Why not?

Can't you take some happiness from knowing what happened to you will happen less?
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>>8101756
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>>8101736
>>tfw you've successfully convinced younger trannies not to transition
>>tfw you've called the parents of young trannies to report their self medding
greentext
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>>8101804
You are a hon.

>>8101798
Not even remotely.

>>8101849
>>8101841
>>8101865
Literally just twinks with longer hair.
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>>8101865
>this is what passes for a female on this board
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>>8101873
Blaire White is many times worse. Stop trolling.
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>>8101862
Nope, because i'm a bitter fuck for being born too early.
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>>8101892
Blaire is lusted for by many straight men, nobody lusts after you or the androgynous Auschwitz hons on this tumblr circlejerk of a board. Just give up.
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>>8101899
I don't understand why you want others to suffer just because you did.
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>>8101910
Why did you go for the numale then Blaire?
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>>8101914
it feels better than helping them.
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>>8101915
I bet that numale is better than whatever the hons on this board are dating (often dying alone).
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>>8101921
>better
How? They both have gayface.
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>>8101918
But why?
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>>8101736
>they shouldn't get the life i was denied
they don't. they aren't cis either.
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>>8101947
they're closer to cis, though. they get treated as cis.
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>>8101736
>feels good man. i'll have more company to join me in this misery. they shouldn't get the life i was denied just because they were born in a better time
>tfw someone like you did this to me when i was 14
>tfw now i'm 20 and manly as fuck
Fuck, I'm not sure if I should hate you more or hate myself more.
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>>8100942
>It's just us making fun of honest good people
Yeah, right.
There was a thread where one of them was talking about how trans girls who went stealth and got killed could only blame themselves, because they weren't honest, and so on.

I think I replied in that thread, but I got banned for it.
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>>8100870
If I had known about informed consent clinics, I would've transitioned when I was in my teens.

>tfw 28 year old hon
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>>8103810
Sorry anon.
I feel sorry for hons tbqh, I can see why a lot of them just turn batshit insane.
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>>8103810
>Chloe posting

So this is the type of person who frequents lesgen....
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>>8103815
>I can see why a lot of them just turn batshit insane.
Why?
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>>8101679
I know, it's utterly unbelievable isn't it? I often dream about how if I was rich I'd donate a large proportion of my monies into funding young people's transitions or w/e

but then again, there are people on this very board right now, namely Cara and a few others who actively try day in day out to trick others into not transitioning for some bizarre reason.
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>>8103815
You have to be batshit insane for thinking you're a girl when you're a man to begin with.
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>>8103815
I don't envy young people, because some of the younger members of the trans community are pretentious assholes, but I'm jealous of their access to medicine.

I'm only starting HRT next. My face is mocked in every thread. It sucks.
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>>8103836
>some of the younger members of the trans community are pretentious assholes
how so?
>My face is mocked in every thread. It sucks
pic?
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>>8103836
If you're gonna use both envy and jealous, at least use them right.
They have different meanings... Most don't use them, and so jealousy usually is used as envy instead.
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>>8101598
I don't know, Cara and friends are all adult humans of average intelligence. I'm pretty sure she's capable of controlling herself and recognising that her actions are deeply immoral, whereas a rabid dog is doesn't understand what they're doing.

Cara is both the rabid dog and the dog owner it seems.
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>>8101641
So as a tranny being forced to live as their biological sex then?
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>>8103859
They're Americans, using them and "intelligence" in the same sentence just doesn't feel right.
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>>8103867
Which is way preferable to little kids being mutilated and hormonally destroyed.
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>>8103876
That happens to the trans kid who doesn't get to transition.

Are you retarded?
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>>8103836
I know what you mean I dont pass at all maybe if I started younger I could have been somewhat decent but at least not this twink turbo hon life is fucking hell. I also posted one pic of me here and learned my lesson, I will never do that again.
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>>8103876
Young trans kids who don't get access to hormones soon enough are the ones who are "hormonally destroyed", I only get exposed to testosterone for a few years and I'll never be happy now.
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>>8103842
>how so?

Identity politics are their identity. They don't talk about anything else. Their status comes to define them. Instead of trying to pass, they hon it up and claim they're promoting trans visibility.

>pic?
I'd rather not derail the thread and make it about me, but I'm in passgen.

>>8103885
It sucks because I want criticism, but all I get is rude comments. I'm at least constructive in my feedback.
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>>8103899
>they hon it up
I thought the younger trans people were the passing ones?
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>>8103930
Some, not all
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>>8103899
Marxist spotted.
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>>8103948
Yes. Clearly I've been ranting about the class war this entire thread.
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>>8103754
What's your story
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>>8101441
Nothing wrong with keeping tabs on trips so you can humiliate them until they leave.
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>>8101736

How did you even get in contact with their parents?

>>8103754

I'm sorry that happened to you, anon.
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>>8101736
You are a major cunt, but at the same time I don't exactly feel sorry for them. Most of us have to deal with that anyway.
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whats clocked mean?
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>>8108904
When somebody can tell you were born the other gender.
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>>8101736
I never understood what people get out of putting others down. The "joy" that results from that is always very empty and fleeting...
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>>8101779
cute
would fill "her" up with my man juice

t. chaser
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>>8100882
accurate
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>>8111096
Seriously, fuck people like >>8101736. Fuck them. I hate them so much. I'm >>8103754 and I live every single day with nothing but self loathing and resentment against hons like them. It especially hurts when I look back and think what could've been.

>tfw hons sabotaged you and now you're a hon
Fuck this thread. Fuck this life. Give me ONE reason not to fucking kill myself.
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>>8111096
When your life is a veritable black hole of despair you jump at the least glimmer of pleasure that can be found, even if it means shitposting on a taiwanese bb-stacking poster bored.
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>>8112261
Because you can encourage young people to transition and stop the same fate from happening to them.
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>>8103952
Only Marxists and lolkiketarians think identity politics are bad.
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>>8112350
I don't fucking know. I'm not going to sabotage them because that's the shittiest thing you can do, but it'd be far too painful to help them. I'd rather just pretend they don't exist until I inevitably an hero.
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>>8112371
I'm not against identity politics, but letting it consume one's identity turns them into the stereotype they claim they're fighting.
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>>8101540
It's not like /lgbt/ doens't hate late (and "late") transitioners.
Gotta hate somebody.
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>>8101571
>tfw an older transitioner (with a fucking amazing feminine voice w/o surgery) helped me with getting a passing voice
>tfw she also hated the same trans support group I initially went to since even they scared her off with their honsense

I swear I am incredibly glad that I got to know her after having an incredibly awful experience with that group that almost made me not want to transition due to feeling like these would be the only people I would be able to socialize with.

Damn, pre-hrt me was so fucking ready to give up.
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>>8114408
>"late"
Difference from late?
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>>8114425

Because some people define "late" as post-16 kinda bullshit.
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>>8114446
So at what point does "late" become late?
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>>8114449

I don't fucking know, I'm not the grand arbiter of trannydom
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Most of you are batshit crazy my dudes.
Literally causing a transgender (who would transition early and live a nice life if they hadn't met you) to not being able to transition and basically ruining their life, just because you have the mentality of a 4 year old toddler. 'If I can't have it, no one can have it!!'

So glad I never met any transgenders in real life or on the internet who would wanna ruin my life.

t. transitioner who got HRT at 11
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>>8111096
>"joy" that results from that is always very empty and fleeting...
The alternative to that is just more despair. It's not fleeting, either. It brings me great joy to even think back on the hons I've created, and how they'll be miserable for life.

Besides, those young trannies would've grown to become insufferable, arrogant, and smug retards who rub their success in the faces of those less fortunate. It's justice.
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>>8116086
>Besides, those young trannies would've grown to become insufferable, arrogant, and smug retards who rub their success in the faces of those less fortunate. It's justice.
Can't argue with that.
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>>8116086
You know how jealous, hateful and autistic you sound right now?
You get joy from creating a couple 'hons', but pretty early-transitioners will always exist :) sad you can't be one of them, right?
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>>8117547
>but pretty early-transitioners will always exist :)

The early transitioners on this board, and most of the famous early transitioners, are pretty ugly tbqh
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>>8117553
On this board? Go look on social media platforms, if you look hard enough you'll find an entire community of mostly non-english speaking early-transitioners who look 10/10.
Try instagram.
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>>8117822
>mostly non-english speaking

Uhhh okay? Too bad none of us live in Brazil.
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>>8117547
That's okay. As long as I've succeeded in preventing even one, I can die in peace. I can't think of anything more satisfying than to check back with one of the young trannies i got to repress a few years later, seeing them just as miserable and manly as i am.
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>>8119046
But why? Why does it bring you so much joy to do something like this?
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Is 'hon' an /lgbt/ thing or is it a thing in general?
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>>8119155
>Why does it bring you so much joy
It just does. All there is to it.
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>>8100870
i always thought it stood for horror of nature
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>>8119586
The word 'hon' specifically is an /lgbt/ thing, but the division between passers and non-passers is always present anywhere you go, even if it's not very pronounced.
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>>8120388
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Baltimore#Hon
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>>8121064
>the division between passers and non-passers is always present anywhere you go
Tourist here. Could you elaborate? What are the divisions?
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>>8100870
http://honfest.net/
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>>8121105
Female Trump looks like Merkel desu
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>>8121108
Since the mtf community places such a high value on passing, it naturally affects how those who can and who can't interact in trans communities. People who pass are typically more valued, just like attractive women are more valued than non-attractive ones.

Some passers are cunts that don't want to be associated with non-passers/hons/bricks/whatever, claiming they're "not like them" or even that they aren't really trans. You see this on /lgbt/ all the time.

On the other side of the fence, some non-passers are so consumed by self-hate, insecurity, and jealousy that they try to ostracize passers for their "passing privilege", and don't think their say on trans issues is important.

Somebody who doesn't pass faces a lot more struggle than somebody who does, so it's hard for them to relate to each other sometimes.
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>>8121340
Who's the hon?
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