Why is American SRS so shit. My insurance will pay for most any

If you want SRS, you're probably A*P.

HSTS/HSFB have micropenii and can't really get proper SRS.

>>8086862
>implying penile inversion technique is proper srs
Go to Suporn ffs

>>8086862
Haha, memes!

I p much already am resigning to celibacy desu

>>8086878
>>8086882
I'm not saying they shouldn't or that SRS is bad per se, but people shouldn't lie to themselves. It's okay to admit you're AGP.

>>8086862
>>8086889
kys

>>8086854
Brassard is terrible. Bowers is pretty good. Suporn is obviously the best. Settle for Bowers if you don't want to save ~$15,000 for Suporn.

>>8087011
Results images seem to disagree with you. Bowers looks like she just carves a hole into you, Brassard has some pretty good looking results.

>carving out your balls into a fuckhole
>call it a vagina

I guess by this logic a broken broomhandle is the same thing as a dick.

>>8087020
Of the ones I could find, Brassard was pretty brutal and Bowers was okay. Do you have a link to other photos?

>>8086862
But don't HSTS have the worst genital dysphoria?

>>8087036
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkawg9gjgirenko/post%20SRS.rar?dl=0

>>8087067
yes
i should note here that hsfb anon, while actually a blanchardian, is also intentionally shitposting

>>8086862
Not really. AGPs love masturbating with their dicks to their agp fantasies.

>>8086854
SRS is really really bad and it won't make you or anyone else happy. Do not do it.

>>8087078
The HSFB/AFP meme scared me at first because I thought they were an attempt to discredit/mock Blanchardianism.

>>8087097
>t. chaser

>>8087109
You wish.

>>8087097
Go away fetishist.

Just get a penectomy.

>>8086878

What is? Genuinely curious.

>>8087102
kek
no, i know that anon and they agree with most blanchardian points
we had a debate over the hsts/agp status of femboys and it kinda led to that

>>8087134
It's called the Chonburi flap technique, the method used by Suporn and most Eastern surgeons, as opposed to Western surgeons like Brassard. It gives you more depth, and works better with smaller penises.

>>8087149
You said before femboys were HSTS. What's your view now?

>>8087160
there was certainly a point in time where femboys were primarily repressed hsts trans girls, but it changed pretty rapidly before i could account for it and the majority now are likely agp
the fact the board's most identifiable femboy is rv-chan (hsts) didn't help the perception of them as a majority hsts category
the 'all femboys are trannies' thing works a little better for hstses who are by definition all trannies, agps are a little more mixed -- some are also trannies, but some are just cis dudes who are unlikely to ever progress past the 'omg i get to play with my boiboobs' stage of agp (and are most likely to end up regretting when those boiboobs get inconvenient)

>>8087208
I can see how HSTS can lead to being a femboy instead of being openly trans, but what leads AGPs to "AFP" instead of normal transition?

>>8087109
>>8087119
Suicide rate increases after SRS

>>8087234
something like 2-5% of men in the general population are agp, and even though we live in the transtrender era transsexualism rates are a lot lower than that
the majority of agps simply do not want to transition
for certain people on the agp spectrum, taking hrt and continuing to live as a guy is a good option, and femboys are just one of the many variants of that
it was a thing long before /tttt/:
https://sillyolme.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/the-love-cant-pronounce-its-name/

>>8087294
That's not true and you know it, stop twisting statistics to fit your narrative. There are no separate statistics for pre-op and post-op populations, there was nothing for those numbers to be compared to at the time.

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>>8087295
> sillyolme

>>8087306
i also realized right after posting that the article was actually about gynemimetophiles as opposed to anything femboy-esque, whoops
i mostly posted it because the person she describes in the first bit would be a femboy in the /tttt/ era

>>8087295
>>8087330
Why is partial AGP connected to not socially transitioning?

>>8087350
Why is it so bad?

>>8087303
SRS is the only part of transitioning that I'm against. You don't need to surgically alter your body to be a girl, it's just going to make it so that you never forget how much you hated your own body. You're still always going to wish you were a real girl instead. Just love your life for what it is, and find someone who loves what you are.

There's nothing wrong with a girl having a penis. She's still just a girl.

You don't have to love yourself to be happy.

>>8087501
>You don't have to love yourself to be happy.

hmmmm......

>>8087501
>and find someone who loves what you are.

I know it doesn't make sense at face value, but if you don't love yourself, you will only find people who are going to use you. Especially when your entire personality doesn't even amount to the sum of your body parts.

>>8087501
>SRS is the only part of transitioning that I'm against. You don't need to surgically alter your body to be a girl,
Couldn't you say the same about HRT?

>>8087511
>I know it doesn't make sense at face value, but if you don't love yourself, you will only find people who are going to use you.
Yet, still, people aren't capable of loving themselves until someone else loves them. It doesn't matter if it's irrational. You just have to keep trying to be better even though you're in pain. Pain and insecurity is a part of you and you have to accept it.

You need to accept yourself, or have the will to change and grow in the places that you can't accept. You don't have to love yourself.

>>8087512
You can be a girl without being on HRT. It's you who decides what you are.

But HRT might actually chemically make you feel more like a girl. The effect of SRS is psychosomatic, and it has a huge risk of still making you feel bad, because your vagina will never be exactly like a woman's vagina, and that was always the problem to begin with. If you want someone to be kind to your body and love it as though you were a real woman, inverting your penis isn't a necessary part of that. They can still be inside you and still be tender with you without doing that.

>>8087540
But SRS might make you feel close enough to being a girl to help.

>If you want someone to be kind to your body and love it as though you were a real woman, inverting your penis isn't a necessary part of that.
If that's what I want then what I need is to pass, and HRT and SRS both might not help.

>>8087522
>You don't have to love yourself.

You do, because people can pick up on whether or not you've completely resigned yourself just to get some attention.

>>8087554
>If that's what I want then what I need is to pass
then you'll never love yourself because you'll never "pass" to yourself as long as you hold that construct in your mind that you need to be able to completely fool someone into loving you. in the back of your mind it will always be a trick because your belief is that someone with a penis can't be a girl. The core problem isn't your body but your beliefs about yourself.

>>8087561
if you fake it until you make it whatever you make will still be fake.

>>8087625
Well if I can solve that then why take HRT either?

>>8087661
Because HRT will literally alter your brain chemistry and that might be what some people need to achieve the balance or stability they need.

>>8087303
>>8087501
the purpose of surgery is to reduce symptoms. some peoples dysphoria affects their genitals. ergo, it must go for symptoms to be reduced. its not some kind of social need but a physical/psychological symptom of distress

>>8087674
But how to tell if that's what I need?

>>8087684
Unless there's another way to reduce their dysphoria.

>>8087684
If the illness is psychosomatic then therapy should be far more effective and less risky than surgery. If you compare it to other psychosomatic illness you can draw parallels to situations where the need to get plastic surgery is itself a form of mental illness. It's a last resort in even the most suitable situation and the existing surgery is such a half measure and incomplete technology that I can't see it as anything other than being extremely dangerous and it makes me worry for your safety.

>>8087691
>But how to tell if that's what I need?
This is why you need to go to a specialized therapist and dig deep.

>>8087729
How would a therapist know?

>>8087796
read a fucking book anon im not your dad

>>8086862
holy shit don't listen to this retard who thinks pseudoscience made by a crossdressing fetishist is actual science

>>8088103
>muh pseudoscience
Will Blanchard deniers ever come up with something better to say?

>a crossdressing fetishist
Proof or it didn't happen.

>>8088132
what else is there to say when the whole medical community at large actively denies blanchards retarded theories.

>>8086854
Have you considered treating your mental disorder with therapy instead of self-mutilation?

>>8088155
You go through atleast a year of therapy before you can even be allowed to get SRS idiot atleast thats the rule for suporn.

>>8088150
>admitting the crossdressing fetishist part was just libel