what is a post-op mtf orgasm like? is it more like a male orgasm

>>8052224
>post-op
>orgasm
nice meme

hrt alone changes your orgasms so ok

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>>8052224
Part 1
It's basically a huge, long build up. Like for me I tend to focus on getting off to specific sensations and cues. First I enjoy a constant sensation around my clit an vagina then i start to enjoy being spanked, felt up all over my body particularly the lower back and hips. Then I start to feel warm all over and want my breasts pinched and fondled. At that point I crave the D and since I am a degenerate I don't have a partner so instead I start using my dildo or vibrator (for a hands free experience, usually vibrator's make me climax faster because of that) and it slowly starts to go in. For me the more I am turned on the more wet I get naturally so I don't use lubricant even if its a decent sized toy, but if i use a large toy from the start id use a little bit.

Anyways the longer these sensations last the more i feel warmer overall and the more my vagina loosens up and feels less painful to be penetrated. Then once it's all the way in its super tight mainly cause i'm still throbbing from all the sensations and my body just feels super hot so i subconsciously squeeze tightly around the toy. Then I start moving the toy a little bit and relax more so I can fuck myself. That's when all the sensations i described previously start to amp up and get intense to the point where i can't think other than being fucked. I can't even coherently speak and pain turns into pleasure.....

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>>8052421
part 2
After that I swap my toy to a larger one if i didn't use lube because at that point i am just so turned on that my own natural fluids are enough and like i said whatever pain i feel just turns into pure bliss and everything feels light. When I say large I mean girth because my depth is only 5 inches since I had a borderline micro dick for the material that my surgeon (Suporn) had to work with but he did a very good job with what I had. The largest girth dildo I use is 1.5 inches wide but I'm sure 2 inches at that point could fit.

At this point I can squeeze my vagina and still fuck myself at the same time with no problems and I can get into alot of positions and still feel great. It basically feels like a vacuum is thrashing and sucking your insides in and out and eventually the intensity of feeling hot all over and the pleasure reaches an extreme high that I want to cum so I do and when I do my entire mind and body is pulsing with pleasure for quite longer than just cumming when I had a dick. I'd say the feelings of pulsating bliss and feeling super warm after climaxing lasts about 10-20 seconds and I definitely have a similar feeling to that equated to an afterglow for a while and just wanna cuddle my pillow while I rest since I last a while anywhere between an 1-2 hours before achieving orgasm mainly because I just enjoy it so much so i intentionally or maybe just subconsciously want it to last that long.

>>8052421
>>8052430

This was incredibly specific. Not OP, but how do you find masturbation to sex with a person? is there a noticable difference in the afterglow or anything?

>>8052551
idk i was in a 5 year relationship during my transition and it didnt end well so I havn't had the opportunity to have sex with anyone yet (post op). I'm sure the experience would be amazing though. I've been single for a year and post op for 3 years ;/ I just find it hard to put the time in meeting somone and then telling them im a transsexual... idk how to go about it so I became indifferent and shifted my focus on pleasuring myself.

I guess passing brings alot of unwanted attention because I don't want to out myself so I tend to avoid anyone who would potentially want to sleep with me.

Hmm bumping cause i thought people would be interested in my response to op. I can answer any questions anyone has.

>>8052421
>>8052430
*calls Suporn immediately*

Has anyone had srs with bowers? Can they describe what its like? She gets shit on a lot here but my insurance covers her. Im really only interested in sensitivity and function, and less so depth and appearance.

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>>8053043
Have you ever had a woman eat you out? My partner is cis, and she mostly just plays with her clit or we still do PIV stuff and I concentrate on what it must feel like for her.

I am a lesbian, and don't want anything to do with men, but I fantasize about getting penetrated sometimes. (I know there are plenty of ways to do this)

What is the most multiple orgasms you have had?

You talk a lot about pain. I tore my frenulum a few times in my life. (once more recently) I get a lot of pain when I masturbate now, I am planning on going to Brassard when I can. (in the next year) I am worried given how much pain I am already in that after something as drastic as a surgery it will be significantly worse even after it heals. Any ideas around this? (Pic unrelated.)

>>8053100
No I have not but i'd be interested since i am bi.
part 1
>What is the most multiple orgasms you have had?
I guess i'll talk about my sexual history before I answer this...

Outside my ex which I was pre op most of the time and 2 years i was post op dating him i was recovering and dating them ended badly because turns out they arn't attracted to me anymore. Other than that I don't have much experience with having sex with another person post op.

iv'e tried dating but for me is very new. I came out of a 5 year relation at age 23. So meeting new people as a transsexual is very intimidating. i did hook up once (not gunna say their name) with a fairly well known youtuber that i enjoyed watching (i don't anymore) and we met cause i happened to live near him on tinder. We clicked super well but the only problem was I didn't know how to tell him i was a transsexual eventually i did and we proceeded with sex but i guess he was just using me for a one night stand once he found out. Made me cry for a month because i have very low self esteem in finding someone cause society calls me a degenerate. only reason i mention he's a youtuber is because in the off chance he reads this you hurt me alot..... I think it would be hilarious if 4 chan did a raid on his channel to fuck with him and tell his community that hes a real jerk in real life but anyways....

>>8053247
part 2

Anyways So that in mind when i experienced intimacy with him it was tough because we tried piv and it was super painful, the good news was after the experience my vagina for whatever reason started to relax and open more, i guess i had a taste for what sex was and so my pussy started to be more comfortable with how it worked. I'd compare it to rediscovering how ur genitals work for the first time. Also weed, weed helped tremendously with relaxing for PIV stuff for me.

So to get back to the question the way it works for me when i masturbate is i probably orgasm 2-3 times before I am satisfied because when i orgasm my body releases i guess "pre cum" that lubricates my vagina to get ready to be fucked super hard. And when i use lube its messy because i have to lubricate the walls of my pussy instead of just relying on my natural lube.

As for the pain I too tore my frenulum pre op with my ex but it healed and didn't affect surgery outcome at all. I would say getting a vagina you have to be in the mindset that yes there will be alot of physical pain but the mental pain is to unbearable that all the physical pain was something i had to overcome. It took me a year and a half of physical recovery and dilation to finally heal. After that it took me another year and a half to mentality get past the fear of physical pain like i said rediscovering how ur genitals work. pre op i was uncut and i remember you actually have to train ur body and mind to get used to the new sensations of peeling it back to masturbate and even pee properly it stung like crazy but eventually it felt good to peel it back. so its a similar trauma of overcoming the mental gymnastics of thinking youll hurt yourself. In the end with all those factors considered being a post op transsexual really turns you into a submissive masochist.

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>>8053255
>i guess i had a taste for what sex was and so my pussy started to be more comfortable with how it worked.
This is pretty cringe reading. Part 1 didn't really help all that much.

>After that it took me another year and a half to mentality get past the fear of physical pain like i said rediscovering how ur genitals work.

this sounds horrifying to me. (and I am pretty masochistic.) You as basically describing normalizeing sex as a painful act but since that is your only way to get sexual stimulation now you learned to "make do/the best of it"

>As for the pain I too tore my frenulum pre op with my ex but it healed and didn't affect surgery outcome at all.
I can't help but wonder if the pain you feel now is some how related or something.

>being a post op transsexual really turns you into a submissive masochist.

Wow this is EXTREMELY reassuring. It is like prepare to make your only sexual experiences painful submissive ones.... I don't even know how to react to this.

>>8053353
Lolwut? You realize that sex is almost always painful your first time right? This isn't unique to trans people.

>>8053353
i guess it did sound a little cringe, but id say learning something that is completely new to you will have those cringe moments until you learn how to deal with it. In my opinion getting SRS was an eye opener to why alot of cis women are the way they are because of having a pussy. Keep in mind you are essentially shoving a shaft up a hole that has very sensitive areas made to get you off.

>>8053395
>In my opinion getting SRS was an eye opener to why alot of cis women are the way they are because of having a pussy.
Can you elaborate on how having a cis pussy impacts cis women psychologically? In terms of submissiveness and otherwise.

>>8053367
Their implication is that it is ALWAYS painful though.

>>8053395
I think the cringe came from the phrasing.
>i had a taste for what sex was and so my pussy started to be more comfortable
Sounds like poorly translated hentai dialogue or something.

I understand that you need to adjust to things and fully expect that. I am still going to get SRS because I refuse to deny myself what I believe to my the genitals I should have been born with.

>>8053420
well i don't want to say i know how cis women feel, but just from feeling differently when it comes to arousal with a dick comparing to my post op vagina, a dick you don't have to worry about being penetrated it's an entirely different mindest. Like being penetrated is painful but penetrating is hmm.... liberating in the sense that you just get hard put it in and you feel good without having to worry about pain if you arnt turned on you are just flaccid. So I can only imagine that the experiences of having a post op vagina can be similar to a cis vagina because I am sexually sensitive down there and when I am not turned on it hurts to just shove it up there instantly. So you need to become aroused and familiarize yourself with these feelings of pleasure and pain down there and juggling between that is definitely alot more complex than simply having a dick. And the way I managed to handle that mindest is to let those sensations overwelm me to the point of submissive and masochism because when I do that all i want is the D and no other feeling or thought can overide that until fucking is over.

>>8053433
> Their implication is that it is ALWAYS painful though.
No it's not always painful once you reach a certain point of arousal idk what happens physically down there but when i said it started to feel like a vacuum sucking me in and out thats the point where it's just pure pleasure. I think it's because i am so aroused and naturally wet that my vagina widens alot to reach that point.

> I am still going to get SRS because I refuse to deny myself what I believe to my the genitals I should have been born with.

Yes i relate as well i needed to get it otherwise i would have killed myself. I think its still worth it just to get rid of that lump of cancer we call a dick.

>>8053433
>>8053518
I really need SRS too, but I just can't afford it, and now I think I'm getting too old to feel comfortable with it. Like I'll always feel like a tranny because I didn't get my vagina at 17, it's just too late now.

>>8053536
well how old are you? I got mine at age 21 and im 24 now.

>>8053598
22, so the earliest I could get it is 24 due to waitlists. So I'd have to be 49 before I've had my vagina for more than half my life. So I'm a failure.

>>8053631
Getting mine at 27 probably. So 54... having a vagina for more than half your life is arbitrary though. Don't stress about that.

>>8053631
i think getting it in ur 20's is fine. The way I see it is usually the body takes 7 years to change and replace all the cells in ur body, so when u start HRT 7 years is a good estimate as to how long HRT will affect you change wise. I think the same applies to SRS. So saying i only had a vagina for half my life as a 49 year old is somthing you should't stress about. Imo and i am a very slow healer 7 years is max to really fully understanding ur body and that's still quite long 4 years is a safe bet.

>>8053738
Okay.... Do you mind me asking how you started the process of reaching out to Suporn's clinic and everything? I'm kind of lost, but I really want to get it as soon as possible....

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Wow, so I have been waiting for this forever. >>8053100 is me.

I looked in the mail box after reading this thread and I just got the info package form Montreal!

>>8053854
It's as easy as going to their website reading about them and sending them an e-mail. They will answer all your questions there. Their customer service is top notch and now I sound like a sale person lol but its true suporn is very professional and they make it so you are as comfortable as possible the only stress is thailand is a fucked country and travel is long as fuck.

>>8053894
Ah okay.... How much do you need to pay upfront, I heard it was something like 20% of the cost, which is like 17k, so that would be.... Between 3 and 4k, right?

>>8053857
Is Belanger an mtf?

>>8053910
I am not sure but from the way the letter is written it sounds like she might be. (There is also a lot of broken English once you get past the first page haha)

>>8053908
Hmm from what i remember the total expense that include food, travel, hotel was between 20-24k USD and the surgery is like 20k? around there my parents came with so it was a bit more expensive for me. I think suporn asks for 50% upfront to get an appointment down on the calendar and you send it through wire transfer i believe its called with ur bank. The account you send it to is in suporns name wich my dad thought was sketchy cause it's not a company or anything but it's all legitimate. Anyways so I think it's like 8-10k upfront.

>>8053929
Oh.... Then it's probably impossible for me to get it for quite a while...... Thanks anyway.

>>8053914
Yeah, the "her dream" and "her mentor" rang bells.

Post the rest please? Any documentation would be interesting to see.

>>8053934
I'd recommend shooting suporn an e-mail as they can answer more questions thoroughly since i do not remember the exact costs and details.

>>8053965
Okay, I will have to buckle down and do this if I don't want to go crazy, hopefully I don't get murdered by Chad before I finally get the surgery lol

>>8053944
The rest is just info to be filled out about you, and health criteria stuff.

They also a want a "Current 'Head to Toe' photograph" But don't say if I need to be nude etc. (I assume I do) . . .
>Tfw you send doctors nudes by accident?

>>8053480
Well maybe this will make you feel better. I'm a woman with a small vagina and the way you describe PIV sex is fairly accurate. When I used to have sex with men if I wasn't ready for penetration it would hurt quite a bit. Raw chaffing of sensitive skin and the feeling of being stretched on top of the pain of having your cervix hit = a bad time. Even if I was warmed up, having a short vagina meant more cervix pain if the guy wanted to go to pound town. Personally, I'd shut down and do whatever I could to get it over with, like rocking back into them.

I'm much happier with women. I'm dating a trans woman now and it's wonderful. She's pre-op but it's not like we do much besides oral anyway. If her eventual operation works out like yours did then I'm greatly looking forward to it.

>>8054941
It does fill a small part of the gap (no pun intended) I am bi but I am only into women for fun and I have had no opportunity to meet a cis woman willing to sleep with me yet but it's like that scene in the new GITS movie when Major feels a disconnect with herself so she finds a random girl on the street to compare her face with to feel real. I really related to that scene as I want to do the same thing just with a natal vagina. I want to compare if mine works just like everyone elses in a sense so thanks it really means alot information wise and assuring wise as well.

>>8052588
This sounds awful glad I'm never getting srs

>>8052251
I've been on hrt for years and my orgasms haven't changed, the only way I can get off is by plain jacking off
It sucks

>>8052224
>is it more like a male orgasm (intense, concentrated, done afterwards) or is it more like a female one (spread out, extended, repeat, etc.)

you know this changes even with just HRT, orgasms become more female-like

>>8055330
Why is that a valid response to what they said? You're gonna have to out yourself either way.

>>8055342
See >>8055334

>>8055334
Are your levels fine? I'm only been on hormones for 14 months and they've changed a lot.

>>8055334
that doesnt sound normal desu

ive been on hrt for under 2 months and stuff's so much different now

>>8055358
I'm already stealth in a happy relationship why would I have to out myself?

>>8055481
How the hell are you stealth without SRS, that's not what being stealth is.

>>8055482
I mean my partner knows but I wouldn't lie to them even if I had srs. Stealth enough for me

I'm thinking there's not many post ops on this board.

>>8058593
yeah cuz they're all dead lmao

>>8058659
>implying pre-ops don't kill themselves at an even higher rate

i just got an email from brassard.... for 7 weeks from now, i thought the wait would be longer...

but jesus, im in a panic and a weird "this is finally happening" moment

>>8055515
The whole idea of stealth is stupid. Hons think it's legitimate because they need to abandon a wife and kids to transition, while all normal transgirls need to do is change their legal name; it's basically just passing or non-passing if you're not a faggot.

>>8058659
hmm well im still alive and i think its more like passing stealth post ops have very little reason to stay active on 4chan anymore. Only reason I'm here is cause I am addicted to my computer and 4chan is what I read when I'm bored.

It's more of an ache than an urge

>>8060329
I am here because I like being frank and talking about lesbian shit. I can't wait for my SRS

>>8053929
nope, deposit is around 3.3k (20% of surgery cost, which is about 17.5k)
I just paid my deposit

>>8058936
>all normal transgirls need to do is change their legal name
truer words has never been spoken

Tell me more about what using a vibrator for you is like post-op. Inquiring minds need to know.

>>8055334
Like the other anon, 2 months and it is a whole nother experience, weeew giiiirl

>>8064304
>>8055441
>>8055444
>>8055390
>>8055342
My levels were fine as far as I know until about a month and a half ago where I was off hormones for several weeks
Since then I know my levels are fucked since I'm getting morning wood and my cum is milky or whatever

Prior to that, I could barely orgasm at all, and like I said, when I did I had to jack off and it felt the same as a dude orgasm, just nothing came out.
There were a few times where masturbstimg felt really great even though I didn't cum(dispite being at it at least a half hour, maybe more)

I'm an inexperienced virgin, but my hope is that with another person I'll orgasm.
But if not I wouldnt be surprised.
I haven't played with my ass very much, but in general putting a finger or a buttplug in is uncomfortable

Idk I think that sums it up