Why didn't the David Reimer case work out? She was the

>>8043081
Because David wasn't ever a transsexual, the doctor "accidentally" cut his dick off, and sexually abused him and his brother.

Because he was most likely cis.

>>8043081
She was sexually abused by her doctor, causing her to go ftm.

>>8043240
[citation needed]

>>8043306
Have you read about his case at all? He was forcibly transitioned.

>>8043081
he wasnt given hormones till puberty, meaning his brain didn't develop into a female one and he felt left out for most of his infancy. He was also abused --had he been forced fed hormones from year 1, he'd likely be a happy grandmother right now.

>>8043330
Evidence they were cis and not a detransitioner?

>>8043348
David never detransitioned, because the transition was never legitimate to begin with. His doctor was a quack and a pedophile.

>>8043128

The doctor who fucked up his penis and Dr. Money are two different people.

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>>8043352
>Dr. Money

>>8043351
No evidence they were cis then.

>>8043365
Statistically speaking, there's a 95.5% chance he was a cis boy who got his wiener chopped off and his parents put a dress on him because, well, you can't have a son with no dick. Could he have been latently trans anyway? Maybe, but seeing as how he returned to a male presentation later in life, I'm gonna say no--you're wrong. That's not a detransition, that's a rejection of the bullshit his parents and Dr. Money put him through.

>>8043388
Those statistics are only valid for people of or above the ages of the subjects of the research the stats came from.

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>>8043401
I was referring to the fact that transsexuals represent less than half a percent of the human population. You really think this kid, who they forcibly transitioned, just coincidentally happened to be trans? Unlikely. And if he was, he wouldn't have rejected what they did to him.

>>8043443
>less than half a percent of the human population.
No, of the adult population in whichever countries those numbers come from..

>>8043450
Do you have autism? The point is that trannies are exceptionally rare. Asking whether or not Reiner was cis is like asking if the sky was blue on Saturday. You already know that he chose to live and present as the man he felt he was. He was born the male sex, and chose to die as a man.

>>8043492
You're misusing the statistics.

>>8043523
You're focusing on the wrong thing here. Use your brain, use your intuition for one god damned second. Reimer has nothing to do with transsexual issues. Do you understand? His "treatment" was a debacle, the dream of tabula rasa nurturists, and a man who wanted to bank on studying him and his brother. What they did to him is no different than electric shock therapy, or lobotomies. It's irrelevant. Reimer was never trans. He never wanted to be a girl. Dragging his memory through this "early transitioner" meme shit is obnoxious. And you should feel bad about it.

>>8043637
Don't feed the troll or mentally disabled

>>8043081
David Reimer was born a boy, had a botched circumcision. In all likelihood he was cis and thus had a masculine gender. Even though they gave him female hormones and tried to raise him as female, he rejected that early. Ultimately he switched back t male, but by then he'd been through all the feminization. It fucked him up.

>>8043331
Then why do transsexuals happen? It's most likely hormones during initial brain development in the womb that sets gender identity. David Reimer had male hormones during that time. In fact for most of his childhood he didn't have E or T other than what is produced by the adrenal glands. No testis because they were removed.

>>8043637
Reimer would have been happy as a girl if she had been raised properly.

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Why did the Wendy Carlos case work out?
She transitioned at 21, passed, and she went on to live a happy and successful life.

>>8046035
because she has a feminine mind and wanted to transition.

>>8043348
He never demonstrated any desire to transition in the first place.

>>8043450
So you think that just because we don't have data outside that group, that people born back then had a 20%+ chance of being trans?

>>8046035
I'm glad it did work out
she's one of my trans inspos, actually has a life independent of her body unlike the current wave of famous trans people who are almost all models/actresses

>>8043081
He did not want to be a girl in the first place.
He just had an accidentally mutilated cock and a doctor convinced the parents that it would be better to try to raise him as a girl.

>>8046358
Because they were already transitioned. After they detransitioned there is no evidence they had a cis brain.