So I have a serious question to all the gatekeepers in the transgender

>>8001887
"Straight" trannies are really just effeminate gay men. They should not be allowed to transition under any circumstances.

>>8001887

Prepare for 128 posts of poorly understood Blanchard nonsense and bitchy mtf drama.

>>8001887
If your SRS just look up informed consent clinics. If you are over 18 they Wii throw pills at you. But I'd recommend a therapist. And some research!

>>8001887
GO TO BED CARA. Dysphoria=trans=transition.
You have no right to withold medical treatment from a dysphoric person no matter their age.
Transbians are trans you mongoloid.
Just because you don't approve doesn't make it wrong.
Am I supposed to give a fuck about cis lesbians? Why should I care their opinions on transbians?
Nonbinary are like anyone else most are okay a few like OP are just numbskulls without an original idea.

>>8001887
It's easy, no gatekeeping

Everybody.
No.
No; pre-puberty is oviously ideal.
No.
A bit, but if they want to transition, let them.

>>8001887
Bisexual mtf here, just my personal opinions:

>Who is/or should...
Yes, gender dysphoria is necessary. Transitioning despite having no gender dysphoria seems like a really bad idea.
>Should obvious non-passers...
No, they should be allowed to transition as long as they think that's really the right choice for themselves and that it might reduce their dysphoria. I've seen non-passers in person when I was at the gender clinic and I pity them very much and think that taking away even that little bit of happiness that they have would be way too cruel. Plus they make me feel better about myself as well, because I can just think "well, at least my transition hasn't gone THAT bad so far".
>Does age matter...
It takes each transgender person a different amount of time to reach the point where they feel ready to transition, so I think there shouldn't be an age limit. That said, in very young cases it may be hard to really be sure that transition is the right choice, and I think it should not be allowed in all cases, other than rare cases where children have voluntarily lived as the gender they are biologically not for many years already before puberty.
In those rare cases I think it's best to start hormone treatment when puberty begins naturally, and in other cases I think ages from 16-20 are ideal.
>Are transgender lesbians...
Only if they want to put their dick in someone.
>Are other non-binary...
I think it's not real, but such identities can make people's lives easier when they're still trying to discover themselves, so I'm ambivalent towards them, even though some people use it for attention (just don't give the attention and it's fine).

>>8001887
>Who is/or should be allowed to transition? Is gender dysphoria absolutely necessary for this?
Most of therapists would actually say yes- it is necressary. Seriously the transistioning is a long, tiresome process and every treatment puts a strain on a patient's health, and that shouldn't be taken if benefits < risks... also one can be transgender but not rly transsexual.
>Should obvious non-passers and hons be prevented from transitioning, even if they have real gender dysphoria?
That all depends on individual patient - the aesthetic effect varies, but in most cases it's worse than expected. The general rule is the faster you do it (prepub especially) the better effect. However in real gender dysphoria looks aren't really the most important thing. Again one should meet with qualified therapist before starting transistioning.
>Does age matter, and when is the ideal or most appropriate age to start transitioning?
As mentioned by previous Anon, if patient is pre-puberty they can get hormone suppression till they're ready to decide (yes, gender dysphoria occurs fairly often in children, with many 'growing out' of it). If they're after puberty - it gets kinda extra complicated (for example mastectomy for FtM, facial shape/hair , vocal chords surgery, etc).So if your doing it, the earlier the better.
>Are transgender lesbians, or so-called "transbians", not really transgender or offensive to the cis lesbian community?
There is some transphobia in LGB community but generally community discriminates more against 'straight' transppl desu
>Are other non-binary and gender-queer identities not real and/or hurtful to the transgender community?
What is the community? It's you and me & in every diverse community there will always be differences in views- there is no one agenda so there is nothing objectively hurtful to community . Anyway, you can find LGBTQ acronym showing more often here and there so I guess community is expanding

>Who is/or should be allowed to transition? Is gender dysphoria absolutely necessary for this?
People with gender dysphoria and only those people should be able to transition.
>Should obvious non-passers and hons be prevented from transitioning, even if they have real gender dysphoria?
Not really, hormones and FFS can work miracles and make them ugly-but-passable creatures.
>Does age matter, and when is the ideal or most appropriate age to start transitioning?
Yes, obviously. The younger the better.
>Are transgender lesbians, or so-called "transbians", not really transgender or offensive to the cis lesbian community?
Most of the time yes and yes. They cry the loudest about being entitled to sex and how cis lesbians are bigoted for not wanting to deal with their dicks or axe wounds.
>Are other non-binary and gender-queer identities not real and/or hurtful to the transgender community?
Yes, non - binary people are full of shit special snowflakes who piggyback on the trans movement to get their 5 minutes of attention. Just like "metrosexuals" a few years ago.

>>8001981
>pre-puberty is oviously ideal.
How how do you reliably detect AGP that early?

Supportive environment and compulsory sex ed in schools that teaches about transgender people.

>>8002081
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>>8002081
But AGPs are notorious for not realizing they are trans. Why would they think whatever they are taught about trans people would apply to themselves?

Before you say "AGP fantasies would be covered in the sex ed", don't forget that many AGPs aren't aware their fantasies are AGP or that they identify with the girl in porn. AAPs probably even more so.

> who should
I want to say yes, because gender dysphoria = trans, but it's really not my business if someone else wants to fuck up their life, and at the end of the day I got my hormones from an informed consent place because I'd had a number of problems actually getting any kind of green light from the gatekept route (I have Bipolar II and was pretty much told I could only have T when I was "fixed". Pro tip to anyone going that route, if they ask you if you've ever wanted to kill yourself, lie).

> Should obvious non-passers be prevented
Again, not my business, but as far as I'm concerned passing 10% of the time is still better than never passing.

> Age
Don't let kids transition. Don't let teenagers transition, especially ones that have a Tumblr. If kids around 14 express really strong gender dysphoria, put them on puberty blockers until they actually have enough of a brain to make a decision. Ideally, that'd be around 20, but it'd realistically it'd be 18 because of the law. Yeah, I get that non-passing is an issue for trans women, but we need to mitigate all the kawaii prince boiz from Tumblr here.

> transbians
They're trans women and they're also lesbians. I don't care, mostly because the stigma of being a woman, especially a trans woman, is more than enough to chase off people doing it for weird fetish reasons. Gay trans male fujoshi, though, those are a fuckin issue. If someone is running around squealing over all their gay ships and suddenly decides that they're trans and gay, I inevitably think they're just overidentifying with Naruto or something. Or whatever their chosen buttboy is, because these kiddos are never tops. Never.

Not to say real gay transmen don't exist, but it's all I hear automatically now, and I'm afraid to admit I'm trans and bi instead of straight because of these people. "Ohhh, you also want a cool handsome seme?" No, I'd want a bro-type dude to blow me while I played Overwatch, but thanks for playing.

>>8002091
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> non-binary
I don't care if you're nonbinary, it's your life. You were born male but you want to wear a dress? Cool. You were born a girl and want to go hunting or wear a suit? Whatever, your body doesn't define your clothes or interests. But I have a problem with them calling themselves trans if they don't have dysphoria, and I really have a problem with them shouting over actual trans people whenever it comes to issues. Inevitably, you see something about trans people, and the first fucking comment is always "BUT WHAT ABOUT NONBINARIES"? Shut the fuck up, not everything is about you and no one kills people like you in public toilets. And really, really don't talk about healthcare for trans people, because your biggest thing to complain about is "gender sensitivity".

>>8002091
>I inevitably think they're just overidentifying with Naruto or something.
Who says that isn't trans?

>because these kiddos are never tops. Never.
That's odd since MtFs are also usually subs.

>>8002088
Then perhaps it's impossible to help some. What I know is that it immediately clicked with me that I'm trans after hearing about it for the first time when I was 12.
I even wanted to come out, but living in Eastern European it was ultimately impossible for me.

>>8001887
>Who is/or should be allowed to transition? Is gender dysphoria absolutely necessary for this?

I don't think people who don't experience gender dysphoria are legitimately trans, but if you're over 18, it's your body, you can do whatever you want.

>Should obvious non-passers and hons be prevented from transitioning, even if they have real gender dysphoria?

No. Even if they will never pass, the mental effects of hormones alone can help a lot with dysphoria. Personally I (started at 18) felt so, so much better after only a month of hormones.

>Does age matter, and when is the ideal or most appropriate age to start transitioning?

Of course being younger gives you better results. Minors (as young as 12 usually, but can go younger if the subject is starting puberty unfortunately early) should be allowed to get blockers and potentially HRT, but it should require a pretty strict vetting process to avoid mistakes.

>Are transgender lesbians, or so-called "transbians", not really transgender or offensive to the cis lesbian community?

If they experience gender dysphoria, then they're trans. As for trans and cis lesbians, I think both sides have a lot of stupid views.

It's okay if cis lesbians don't want to sleep with the more masculine trans women, or pre op transwomen, or even post op and passing transwomen. But if, in the future, transwomen could somehow get perfect cis-tier vaginas, and a cis lesbian would refuse to sleep with a perfectly passing trans women with a cis tier vagina, then that's bigoted. Also, some cis lesbians are way too bitchy and aggressive towards trans people. It's completely okay if you don't want to sleep with one, but you needn't be so hostile about it or their inclusion into the lesbian community.

On the other side, trans lesbians need to realize they aren't entitled to sex with anyone, and that lesbian communities are not the place to discuss your trans specific issues.

>>8001887
>>8002165
>Are other non-binary and gender-queer identities not real and/or hurtful to the transgender community?

I don't think they're legitimate. If you're a dude who likes feminine things or a girl who likes masculine things, then that's completely okay. But it doesn't make you nonbinary/gender-queer/thirdgendered/whatever else nonsense. I do also think they distract from legitimately trans people and their issues, and paint trans people in a bad light to cis people.

>>8002110
>Then perhaps it's impossible to help some.
That's very sad, but as long as it helps some your idea should be done.