/mtfg/ - Male to Female General-

i claim this thread in the name of those who died

>>7989225
I claim your boipussy in the name of bitcoins.

I can't sleep.

>>7989252
Me neither. Made the mistake of having a late at sunset. Bad idea.

>>7989254
A late?

>>7989256
(lah-tay)

>Male to Female
literally impossible

Rini is cute~

>>7989273
Oh. You meant latte'.

My stomach hurts rn. Lately as soon as I wake up it feels like I need to throw up ugh.

>>7989288
Whatever. One of those faggy Italian drinks.

>>7989315
yikes

D E A D
same time EVERY night

>>7989315
>Those icepicks.
Lip rings are feminine but not recommended.

>>7989327
Yeah either you get fucked off or it's dead what else is new.

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According to sleep talk recorder

I say "I want to be a girl" in my sleep...

>>7989313
It's okay there have been an inordinate amount of dumb people on /b/ lately too. Middle schoolers I assume.

>>7989341
Really? Ever get something weird? Why do you record yourself?

>>7989345
It's almost summer again. Also

>going on /b/ in current year

>>7989352
It's a fun iPod app, I wanted to see if I could use it to remember lucid dreams

Sometimes I wake up and get scared of something, don't know what tho

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>>7989373
is it sleep paralysis?

>>7989355
Yeah I know but sometimes they get some good threads. This woman who most think is a trap hides her face with anime girl reactions and makes food/serves tea fridays at 9 and other times. It's funny to watch because now it's come full circle most just want the trap show and irritate the hostess the trolls have increased the memes and transphobia and some like me just stay for the comfy conversation. Luckily Alice doesn't get discouraged.

>>7989373
I would hate to be that vocal tho. Lol confess something in my sleep. My dad called me once from my room dead asleep. He woke up like wat it was weird.

>>7989401
>My dad called me once from my room dead asleep. He woke up like wat it was weird.
He wants the boipuss

evrybodi ded

>>7989490
Nah I'm still here not that it matters

what fucking retard made a thread while the other one hasn't hit image limit?

Okay, time for a would you rather game...

Would you rather have a vagina, womb, and a general female appearance (slightly better than plain jane, but not super pretty)

OR

The ability to fly, limitlessly. You can hover low to the ground, or ascend as high as you want, and have complete freedom of movement in the skies. Flying does not expend significant energy from you, though any attempt to harness this free energy into electricity will prove fruitless.

>>7989496
If I choose flying can I get bat like wings attached to my back?

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>>7989494

that makes sense

i dunno i woke up and ctrl-f'd mtfg

>>7989494
Going to image limit is stupid anyway. Every other general on this board goes to bump limit and then makes a new thread.

>>7989496
idk. what do i get for being able to fly? can i be a superhero or make myself into a celebrity and get rich?

>>7989496
Answer me this: how fast and how much can you carry? Sans wings I'm guessing it's a mental ability. Unless you can carry stuff around feel like it would get old. I'll take girl. I would trade girl for waterbending or artistic skill. I could satisfy dysphoria painting pretty girls all day making bank.

for some strange reason

I find The idea that a boy would want to be a girl is kinda of heartwarming and brave

>>7989520
It's actually pretty lame and depressing.

>>7989499

Eh, if you want wings, it can come with the deal. That might make clothing a little more complicated though.

>>7989509

What you do with your ability to fly is your decision.

>>7989511

You can fly as fast as you can run, but you won't get tired. You can carry only as much as you can physically carry anyways. It's not going to make your arms or back any stronger. While you may not be dragged down to the ground from your magical flight, it's going to hurt to carry what your body isn't used to.

>>7989496
if I could fly and also transition as I do now and also be able to choose if I get wings and how they look then I'd choose that

>>7989527
>you can fly as fast as you can run

lame

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I whent to get some gyasa
One of the employees had their kid with them
She drew this and put it in my takeaway bag

>>7989520
how come?

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>>7989496
Nice tricks but I got you.

>>7989520
Yeah only if pass and pretty. It does sound a bit romantic but that's not the reality.

>>7989520
i know
its really endearing that a boy would rather be beautiful, feminine and open with their feelings than masculine and aggressive and tough

>>7989533
What's gyasa

>>7989494
well it IS an ancap thread...

also hi buddy

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>>7989490
I wish I did

>>7989542
Its a sort of dumpling

>>7989527
I chose well with girl then. Flying like a bird would be better. The effortless gliding would make it fun.

>>7989527
>What you do with your ability to fly is your decision.
Then you're not just offering me flight, you're offering me the option to be the most famous person on the planet and change the world.

>>7989543
hi friend whats up

>>7989533
The fuck is it?

>>7989554
i'm very sick and have been for days

not much else to say really

what about you

>>7989547
Huh. Never heard of it. I still need a good red curry and to try pho.

>>7989555
Not shure
But it was adorable

>>7989531

If I were to give you the ability to fly faster than, say, typical human max speed in a 100m dash, colliding with objects mid-flight might kill you.

>>7989549

I'd be giving you full freedom of movement while flying. What use are wings?

>>7989552

You very well could do that. That is a logical consequence of being the only person capable of flying.

>>7989561
oh shit i'm sorry
cold or flu or what?
i'm ok, at gloomy's still. I'll tell you more later

>>7989571
Cold I think.

I've been taking lots of ibuprofen and avoiding smoking and trying to keep myself well fed, basically.

Also epilating still hurts like hell.

>>7989575
yeah, it's horrible. Especially under the knees or the bikini line or anything

hrt hair thinning when

Hey /mtfg/

>>7989580
Oops, Forgot trip

>>7989569
>as fast as you can walk
To not be a girl, I'd need to be able to fly as fast as I can think. Get up to at least 20mph ffs. Not sure how useful this would be. At least there are other trans. I would be forever known locally as the boy who can fly and get weird requests and shit I just don't really see how useful it can be. Being able to bank on the current and change speed is half the fun of flying.

>>7989575
I had a headache only got Advil and NSAIDS are bad for you so I didn't take any.

>>7989583
Hey.

>>7989589
Seems pretty boring here atm

>>7989586

>as fast as you can walk
As fast as you can RUN. Average human run speed is 15 mph when sprinting, though Usain Bolt was able to achieve a top speed of around 27 mph. If you're a good runner, you might be able to make that 20 mph speed while flying.

>>7989599
Yeah whatever I'm supposed to be asleep. This place sucks when it's too fast imo.

>>7989586
Also being famous since childhood would mean you transition wouldbe public and everyone would know and you couldn't be stealth ever

>>7989603
Yeah, noone reads your stuff then

But when noone is here, noone does either

>>7989601
I don't run ANYWHERE. I'd be the worlds' laziest bird. I'm a slow and steady type. I'll walk for miles when my thighs let me.

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Who up
>>7989490
Rip

>>7989609
how was it at the club?

>>7989609
Eh I get many more (you)s when it's slow.

>>7989612
I'm up. Heard my first catfight at 2am.

it turns out im trans.

bring it on dysphoria. im gonna win.

>>7989613
Not too good
The friends i normally hang out with were already on their way home when i was on my way there
I still went to the club and met two guys i know
They were only there for another hour too
So i wasn't there for long either
Also some drunk creepy guys wanted to hit me on
But it was just creepy

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hi im here now

Help I've been having dreams about this girl for 10 years and she hates me so much she won't even talk to me.it's Sunday and I'm going to run into her again like I have the past 3 Sundays and idk what to do bc i miss her so much but she doesn't want me in her life.

>>7989644
Can u move away?

>tfw you get teased into actually crying

>>7989627
Great attitude! If you see that bitch dysphoria give her head a thumping for me ok?

>>7989650
i will travel to emotionland and kill dysphorias avatar

>>7989635
so you just have one regular social group? I had that for a while and it sucks when you only have that option.

>>7989644
I KNOW THIS FEELING. Just make awkward eye contact and die a little inside. You'll be fine.

Holy shit, senpai, my gf was giving me some fuck yesterday and, while fingering me vigorously, she took my pocket knife and cut my butt cheek and it bled so much it ran down my leg and she took some of it onto her finger and made me lick it off and omg it was so fucking hot I could die!

>>7989644
Why ten years? What makes her so great that she gets this privileged occupation of your subconscious?

whose the evil ones?

the side of me telling me to repress
or the side of me telling me to transition


one wants to keep me safe
the other wants to expose me and make my life difficult

>>7989657
Yeah, kind of
I know e few more people but not too many
I know most of the group since i'm 15
I'm bad at making new friends so idk what to do

>>7989647
Don't worry, if it happens enough times over the span of many years, you'll eventually become dead inside and resistant to minor pains like that because you will have internalized your inherent worthlessness.

I just want to love her

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Omg I unironically had the best weekend of my life

Had a lot of fun being with Anna and doing drugs with her, and making nice life plans afterwards
(some amazing lewd stuff took place as well)

a-and I like myself now
thank you anna

>>7989663
No risk no fun
Also you won't get prettier when you start later, so you should transition asap

>>7989662
The fuck

>>7989664
I found alot of new friends because my friends take some of their friends with us so it's constantly expanding. my best friend is also an extrovert and he introduced me into a bigger group of people with common interests.

>>7989683
I mean i met new people through that group, but again, they're part of that group then so i didn't make friends outside of the group

>>7989677
Congrats, senpai! Drugs and poon are fabulous, and I'm glad you like yourself!

>>7989682
I like blood the way boring people like tits.

>>7989678
tfw 20 was too late for you

how do i come out to my parents

>>7989692
so no one in that group has friends outside of the group? seems unusual unless the group is small

>>7989700
Are your parents:

>normal
>well-adjusted
>not overly religious
>not overly conservative

Then just come out to them and maybe provide studies to them to show that this isn't just crazy.

Are your parents:

>overly religious
>not well-adjusted
>hispanic
>raised in a bigoted culture

Then you move out to go to college and tell them over email like I'm going to do.

>>7989698
As long as you're under 25 there's a chance

>>7989662
Glad that happened to not me lol. Blood even typing it makes me anxious and nauseous. I can't even kiss my wrists because of my blue veins.
Even that made me weak. I used to not feel like this. My pussification worries me.

>>7989706
what if you're 6'1

>>7989703
Well, some friends but the group is pretty big so most of everyones friends are in there in a way
The core group is smaller though
I mean you always meet the same people here, it's pretty strange

>>7989669
This.

>>7989706
Genetics > Age

>>7989709
Unfortunate but not impossible
I know cis girls that tall

>>7989717
they dont have male skeletons though

>>7989677
I'll smoke my last bowl to that.

>>7989722
You're right
But you'll still get cuter on hrt so you should just do it

>>7989725
i dont just wanna get cuter though i wanna pass

>>7989714
yeah really seems strange. I live in 25k people city and meet somebody new at least once a month. how big is your group? my main groups core is like 15-20 people

>>7989727
You'll never know if you don't try
Also you won't pass ever of you don't start you hrt

>>7989723
Gonna take a nap, if I can.

>>7989729
The core is like 10 people but the wider group is probably 40 or sth

>>7989734
what happens if i dont and end up a weird inbetween

>>7989708
Yeah, my bf is like that. The least description of pretty much anything internal to the body beyond piss, shit, and spit will make him nauseous. The only way I am able to engage in bloodplay with him is if he texts me instructions. With my gf, though, it's a different story. Much less bothered by stuff like that.

https://discord.gg/e6H7svK

>>7989740
then you fucked your future by listening to retards like marina

>>7989678
Tfw started at 18 and still look ugly

>>7989706
You know that isn't true
This woman started at 51 and she is doing pretty damn good for her age
https://unsee.
cc/sopadibu/

>>7989741
Poly fags get out

>>7989740
Continue hrt and stay a weird inbetween
Stop hrt and go back to being a normal guy
Or if you can afford get some ffs or body surgery for better passing
Also almost everyone has that wird in between phase, if you continue and maybe go fulltime it will probably end after a year or two
So a bit of patience is a good idea

>>7989739
out of those 40 take the ones with the most common interests of you and hang out more with them and ask for them to invite more friends. unless everybody they want to invite happens to be in the group too you should get new friends. sometimes people who you don't even like that much have great people as friends. if nothing works you still could meet up with some german trips.

>>7989760
>ffs
>better passing

Marina, you crack me up

>>>/pol/118366612
be ready

>>7989756
I've established my dominance here. You get out, peasant.

>>7989694
Thank you very much, Haku!

>>7989751
I didn't say you can't pass after 25
Just that under 25 is normally better than over since a lot of masculinisation happens between 20 and 25

>>7989750
Or you don't try at all and end up becoming a total hon at 50-60

>have a dream about driving around in a truck with a few other trips and playing music
Is this some kind of message

>>7989780
hugg
All the love, senpai.

>>7989785
What kind of music?

>>7989646
I wish I could
>>7989658
>.<
>>7989662
Idk she was cheating on my bestfriend to be with me and was my only friend in high school and the only person that wanted to see me when I tried to kms

>>7989765
I'm too self conscious for stuff like that
Already met some trips, but we all live too far apart to be normal friends

>>7989788
Nothing specific, but there were only 3 of us, and that's not enough for a band.

>>7989783
Tfw hon

>>7989783
your misinformation is scary
but then again people asking for life changing advice from a place like this is just as bad

>>7989796
3 people
1 drum
1 bass
1guitar + singing

Don't see a problem here

>>7989799
There's a difference between being a 4chan hon and being a susans hon

>>7989760
no surgery for being 6'1 and having 18 inch shoulders

>>7989807
Ehh, yeah, but I like playing the keyboard, but I was holding a guitar in the dream. I shouldn't pay too much attention to it.

>>7989803
Everything worked out for me so idec

>>7989810
Ok, then don't transition
Why did you even ask
Or why are you even here, it's not going to change anything

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>have a dream about incidentally getting outed to my older brother when a girl keeps misgendering trans people
>wake up at the scene where he's menacingly standing near the exit with the crazy look on his face

desu i'll take the truck ride with trips thx

>>7989821
okay you're right ill go

>>7989828
Don't go nim, just, we keep telling you about how to improve and change the things you can change instead of constantly agonizing over the things you can't, and you don't listen.

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>>7989828
no reason you can't be a giant woman

the shoulders suck but you're not the only girl here with broad shoulders. supposedly you can lose a couple inches due to muscle loss & fat redistribution but i've not been on hormones that long

repressing doesn't work afaict

>>7989140
>less tripfags
I like tripfags tho

>>7989837
i don't do any exercise or lifting, i don't have any muscle

just disgusting bone

>>7989837
Yeah, shoulders don't look that broad anymore through hrt
I'm 2+ years on hprmones now and they're quite different now
You can also lose up to an inch of height through muscle loss

>>7989847
My doctor's office measured me at around 179cm 9 months ago but when I do it now I'm at 174.

>>7989847
I've been 11 months on hrt and didnt shrink at all, but I've gone down a shoe size.

>>7989833
i can't get over it, it just feels like there's too much i can't change and it all adds up

>>7989842
With t you have a lot more muscle mass than a woman by default
You can't even see or feel how much
But you'll se after a while on hrt

>>7989859
Can confirm, didn't exercise pre hrt at all but after a few months of hrt I could barely carry my laptop to uni.

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>>7989839
also it's fewer

>>7989842
i'm not sure that's as big a factor, in fact it probably helps bc you'd maintain muscle if you exercised more. you're gonna have bigger muscles than a cis girl just due to endogenous t regardless of your exercise level. i forget the exact stats but even the laziest weakling cis guy is stronger than like 95+% of cis women

>>7989853
the height thing seems really weird to me.. where is it going? are the vertebrae getting closer due to weaker support? losing depth at the heels?

>>7989854
is it width related?

why doesn't she love me?

>>7989870
it's been 5 months and i don't feel a difference

>>7989854
Shrinking is supposedly hon myth but I experienced it, but I may just be posturing myself differently. It may have something to do with the fact that my diet is utter shit and my bones are probably rotting inside out.

>>7989855
Well, then ask yourself, is your desire to finish your transition and live as a woman, stronger than your fear of not passing?

>>7989871
>is it width related?
they are like 1-2 cm shorter

y'all sad?

>>7989871
I'm not quite sure, probably a lot of different factors I don't completely understand myself. But I do posture myself differently as well.

>>7989875
We keep telling you this takes years, up to 6 to 8 years to really finish. Everyone's puberty is different. Some girls have cow tits at 11. Others don't start menses until 16.

>>7989870
You're a skeleton though
I can't carry water packages anymore though

>>7989871
Yeah, it's the muscles between your vertebrae and under your heel

>>7989875
Wait until a year+
Also you don't really feel it because it happens slowly

>>7989807
What's the difference?

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>>7989855
take it one step at a time. it's easy to get overwhelmed, but structure your progress and focus on achieving each goal individually. it's the only way to actually achieve complex goals without getting overwhelmed, this doesn't just apply to transition

>>7989880
it makes no sense to me! but i'd take it, if i can get down another size i might be able to find more women's shoes.. nine west sells us wmn's 12 which tends to mostly fit though

>>7989878
i was 6'2 when i started and ive been getting 6'0.5-6'1 at doctors visits now

and yes it is, but i still worry

>>7989847
Hrt shrunk nothing
My shoulders are still 42" circumference

>>7989875
weird but maybe >>7989891
has something to do with it, I starved myself to death when I started hrt. I gained like 6kg again so maybe I should try carrying my laptop again

>>7989896
Why would you measure the circumference???

>>7989896
>42" circumference
is that you sheen?

>>7989890
but i was one of the first boys in class to start puberty

>>7989872
Same
>>7989888
Nah. About to GET ON THA GRIND 100%%% 9 HOUR SHIFT NO BRAKES

>>7989892
Susans hons seem to be oblivious of what they are and pretty happy with life.

4chan hons are at rock bottom and just waiting to die or kill themselves.

>>7989891
Cool. Didn't think we had that much muscle under my heel. I felt both of mine, there's still a healthy padding there.

>>7989892
4chan “hons“ just don't match the high standarts
But they're normally better off than they think
Also attitude and age

>>7989896
Who even measures shoulder circumference
Even if they don't shrink they probably look less angled
Also lost muscle can convert to fat so they're the same circumference but look more fem than before

>>7989892
>>7989912
>4chan hon
one is delusional and one is depressed. not sure which is better to be

>>7989904
That's not what I was trying to say, lol. Just because puberty started early and strong doesn't mean it'll be the same for HRT. Your body and brain are continuously developing until you're 25. Just leave it off your mind, let HRT do its work, focus on improving your life. If in 3 years you look exactly the same (you won't) then consider masectomy/detransition if you want to.

>>7989872
If you don't know why you are probably not worthy of her love anyway.

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>>7989901
i've definitely been losing weight since starting hrt, have you gotten better breast growth since improving your diet?

on the plus side i'm down to 165 (75kg) for the first time since i passed it, probably junior high

5'9" 150lbs is kind of my goal (175 cm 68 kg)

>>7989914
>Who even measures shoulder circumference
It's a useful measurement. lots of times when clothes didn't fit me early in HRT it was as much because of the whole circumference (which included back muscle) as it had to do with the width (mostly measurement of the bone)

>>7989914
even if my 18 inchers don't shrink i think id take having them look less angular

right now i look like a football player who just got out of auschwitz

>>7989927
I am 179cm 68/69 kg right now and I feel most has gone into my butt and breasts, still only got mini boobs tho

>>7989924
oh gosh id love to turn off my brain for three years

i just get in moods, im sorry

What is a brainless part time job I can work only weekends and nights that pays like $15+ an hour

I don't want to deliver pizza again

>>7989902
Nope hers is about 52"
I'm 16.5 across but 42" around

>>7989925
;_;

>>7989950
id take those in a heartbeat

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Anna is my gwadf
And that's pretty cool

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i wish there was some non-fake way to get my hair to grow faster

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>>7989934
fine make me feel like even my skinny goal is fat! ;)

i already know that once I get to 150lbs I'll just want to lose another 10lbs

i have a bunch of extra skin & stretch marks so it's not like i'm ever gonna have a beautiful body. maybe i can tell people i was pregnant?? "i had a late term abortion, it was delicious"

>>7989960
biotin

>>7989533
that's cute

Just checked height again to make sure. I'm very close to same height as my father who I used to be at least 4 inches taller than. Guess it isn't a hon meme.

>>7989960
I heard eating salmon makes hair grow faster.

>>7989960
Massages with warm oil or caffeine stuff actually helps with growth a bit
Pretty much anything that increases the blood flow in your scalp
It's not doing wonders though

>>7989975
my dad was 5'10

you're really triggering my false hope lol

>>7989965
I think your goal is fine.

> stretch marks
got those too at my hips and legs, shit sucks ;~;

Post songs about insatiable lust for boipucci
https://youtu.be/ffLdZN3ub0M

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>>7989960
>>7989966
>>7989975

dietary change is the way. you need good proteins, then your hair and nails will grow quicker/thicker

which reminds me i need to get more protein

>>7989965
I have stretch marks on my back from being too skinny while growing
Also on the inside of my tighs because i have pretty thick tighs

>>7989984
same :/

you can always pay to get them fixed

it's just because i grew pretty fast i think

>>7989993
i had pretty bad backne as a teen so my back has a lot of scarring :(

>>7989983
You could do what I do, sit in a chair 18 hours a day make your diet exactly like mine

Instant noodles for 1 week because you're broke
Chicken and fish for 1 week because proteins
No carb and 600 calorie diet for 1 week in self loathing at how fat you are
Alcohol and soda for a few days then more instant noodles, finish off the rest of the week with eating like 3200 calories of garbage

Voila, you get Nat bod.

>>7989989
https://youtu.be/x4iBBfEHNaE

>>7989989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuVfMOnOW-o

>>7989996
I grew way too fast (and tall) too.
Can I really get rid of them?

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>>7989984
i got them from growth (behind my knees, hips, shoulders, and a few on my back) and then from obesity on my belly, breasts, arms, and inner thighs

>tfw saggy boobs before you get any hrt related breast growth

i hope these things fill out

>>7990000
>sit in a chair 18 hours a day
ill do ya one better familia

i lay in bed all day and use a reading pillow to support my back

diet is water, sausage and toast in the morning, pizza in the afternoon and probably some type of teriyaki chicken at night

livin the dream desu

>>7990005
i believe so, growth stretch marks usually aren't THAT bad right?

i think it's called laser resurfacing? if your stretch marks are indented already it helps make the skin smooth

they offer it at places that do laser usually

>>7989954
Why?

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So what do you think is more important?
Rhino, BA or orchi?

>>7990021
ufufu has that width and she's beautiful

lani has 16 inch shoulders and she's beautiful too

you're fine! and you're much better off than my 18 inch ones

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>7990006
How overweight were you?

>>7990014
I dunno if they are bad, I'll look into the laser thing but I doubt it will make them less white.

>>7990027
Orchi is cheapest and best long term investment, no more AAs.

>>7990027
id probably go:

trach shave > orchi > ffs(brow blurring, rhino, chin, jaw, ortibal rims, hairline lowering) > srs

fake boobs don't feel nice, the right bra can make boobs look nice no matter what

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cat

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>>7990014
i think i could probably just lease the laser machine for less than it's going to cost to fix my hair/skin

>>7990027
orchi imo, but i like girls with big noses and/or small breasts so those seem less important to me... i don't really care to spend a bunch of money and energy conforming to the beauty standards of a society i loathe

>>7990028
is this measurement the same number that I think.. fitted shirts have? i never cared for nice men's clothes so i don't really remember but i think i was a 16.5 in that measurement

>>7990034
I got to 300 lbs after my mom died

>>7990034
im pretty sure those are easier! is that your knee? that's an interesting place to get scars

i have white ones like that on my thighs and indented ones on my inner thighs

>>7990034
I have them on my knees too
But i don't feel like they're bad or sth

>>7990028
I just measured 13 inch
I think i'm doing it wrong, people told me i have narrow shoulders but i don't think they're that much narrower than everyone elses

>>7990044
can you do that?

i need laser for my body hair since it's coarse and dark..

id be worried that id hurt myself doing it though

>>7990035
Well I'm torn between the three.

>>7990039
I already ffs which was meh but I need the other three badly.

>>7990044
But my nose is small and upturned which is bad

>>7990057
yours are very narrow and feminine :)

it's weird though, lani and fuf look like they have ones similar to yours but you're getting a smaller measurement!

maybe the fact that they're both(if i remember correctly) an inch taller than you so they just look more proportional with larger ones?

>>7990060
Hi angie

>>7990058
Idk if they lease those to people without traing

>>7990027
Question about orchi, what effect does it have on your scrotum?
Penile inversion SRS is going to not be an option, and I'm worried that if I get an orchi it might mean that it rules out scrotal SRS too and if that happens I'll probably just kms.

>>7990044
>300 lbs
wew so you basically halved your weight. Thats great

>>7990052
yeah they are directly above the kneecap
>>7990057
I feel like they are super visible (although they arent) so I am scared of wearing short stuff ;~;

>>7990064
I measured them myself a few minutes ago
So i probably measure them wrong

>>7990060
i haven't done anything obviously but trach shave would be first for me since it's very obvious

ive heard that some fat goes to the neck with hrt so it hides it a bit and girlvoice makes it go closer to the throat but it'd never be completely hidden for me

the best i could do is like hila klein's from h3h3 i think, which is still pretty noticeable

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>>7989989
https://youtu.be/0NPcFzYfRo4 maybe

>>7990060
no its not, the retroussé nose is desirable and feminine!

>>7990058
I'm sure as an american if i had the finances i could form a corp and get one, sure. could i use it effectively? probably not. and i doubt it would actually be cost effective unless i hired a qualified tech/went to school and made a business out of it

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>>7990067
Hi marina

>>7990043
Cattr is cute.

>>7990070
Even if they're highly visible i just don't see them as a flaw in that position

>>7990076
it's difficult to do it yourself so ive tried doing it a lot and ive just taken the average, but im p autistic about it obviously

you're supposed to put the tape measure behind your back and measure the ends that way

>>7990069
Depends on the type of orchi you get. They can leave the skin and it just shrinks over time. They can remove it if you want.

I don't know anything about SRS methods though.

>>7990070
i feel like they're probably not visible when you don't have the skin stretched out like in that picture

>>7990091
couldn't you potentially get like synthetic balls put in so the skin doesn't shrink?

apparently it's not as big of a deal if you go to someone like suporn overseas but in the usa it seems like they use that skin in the procedure

>>7990091
Well if the skin shrinks that's what I'm worried about.
I'll basically be left with nothing to work with in terms of SRS since cypro shrinks penises.

>>7990067
yeah probably

i found a groupon for $200 for 6 sessions, i might get it and start on my face at least

luckily i can't grow a full beard so it'll work faster hopefully for me

>>7990100
go to suporn

also with maintainence you can keep a good amount of length

>>7990089
That's what i did but i can't relax my shoulders completely while holding the tape

>>7990069
It's best to not have anything done before
But if you tell them to not cut anything of it away and stretch it sometimes there shouldn't be too many problems
Some surgeons don't operate people with orchi though
I think suporn too

>>7990099
>synethetic balls
I asked many doctors about this that do orchis and 90% of the time they flat out refuse. Apparently there's a high risk of infection, rejection, or testicles wandering, and more. Also you need to drop an extra $5000 on the silicone implants themselves.

>>7990100
The tissue shouldn't permanently atrophy I think. Just tug at it every so often and you should be okay.

Kind of like how if it's really cold your scotum now gets tiny but all it takes is some warmth or pulling at it later to get it back to where it was.

>>7990114
oh, that's unfortunate

seems like nothing comes without a con in transition lol

>>7990079
In my case it isn't
My nose sucks

>>7990079
yeah just start a laser hair removal business and get yours done for free :)

>>7990107
Yeah not gonna happen.

Unless I'm mistaken, you mean I can masturbate to keep things from shrinking, but that's a definite no go.
I can't, it's upsetting.

>>7990108
yeah i can't tell when i am or not

sometimes i get 16, sometimes 17, 18, 19..

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>>7990100
>cypro shrinks penises
idk about that, nothing shrinked for me

>>7990122
yeah that's what i meant

i don't know what to tell you, if you don't exercise it it's gonna atrophy

if you want to keep length you're going to have to get over that block somehow

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>>7990122
intuitively, it seems like you could use a pump for maintenance and not have to get an erection

i've not heard of anyone doing that, but i can't think of a physical reason it wouldn't work

>>7990127
You probably masturbate frequently

>>7990122
Penis skin doesn't shrink that much so you don't have to
Especially if you play to get srs with scrotal skin

>>7990127
Maybe you shouldn't masturbate all day then :)

>>7990137
i guess that's another reason to keep your T within female range

>>7990108
Suporn does SRS even if the patien is circumcised and had orchi
Bilateral orchiectomy is not recommended prior to SRS, but is permitted. If the scrotal sac has been removed, the applicant must seek elsewhere to undergo SRS.

>>7990137
>>7990141
lmao no, maybe its because I didnt even masturbate pre hrt so it was alreadyatrophied

>>7990142
You don't necessarily have to get hard or finish. Just smack it around a bit, pull at it, done.

>>7990144
That makes sense too.

how do i eat more without feeling gross

>>7990144
Hmm, mine shrank a bit even tough i didn' t masturbate before so idk

>>7990151
smoke some weed

>>7990127
Do you masturbate?
Apparently it's a case of nothing happens if you use it regularly (2-3 times a week), but if you don't do anything then it shrinks.

>>7990131
unfortunately I can't
Plus I'm pretty sure I've reached the point where I can't really get erections anymore (yay), so even if I could emotionally, I couldn't physically.

>>7990135
So it's a case of if you just stretch it it won't go away? That's a possibility I guess, but then there's the case of I sorta want it to shrink so it's easier to pretend it's not there until I can get rid of it for good.

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>>7990153
i don't think it's the masturbation so much as the erections, and you probably got those at points

>>7990157
yeah I'm pretty sure that would accomplish the necessary stimulation to maintain the tissue

can hrt make you even more soft spoken?

my mom had trouble hearing me before hrt since she has bad hearing and i don't speak loudly but now i feel like i have to yell every time i talk to her

>>7990167
I don't think that 2bh
I had like an erectile disfunction even before hrt
(Which was pretty nice)

>>7990170
i developed a gay lisp

>>7990170
It weakens you vocal chords a bit since they're basically muscles

>>7990179
I had a lisp as a child and had voice training to speak normally
But now it's coming back

>>7990170
post voice

>>7990153
desu I never bothered measuring since I'm on hrt but it doesn't look smaller do idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>7990157
see>>7990144

>>7990170
Im a mute now so I guess it can

>>7990183
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1etQ4IGhH1h

is it bad?

After seeing the ffs results of the people who have posted here. Why do most of you still look like men or inhuman?

Only decent ffs I seen was of Brad's and Nikki's

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>mfw avoiding transition

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>>7990170
>tfw I can't pretend to be a mute
Rip
>>7990193
Can't avoid it forever

>>7990170
sounds nice to fall asleep to...

>>7990195
Voice training?

>>7990197
>>7990189
would you fall asleep to this :)

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>>7990195
my response to you Miss

>>7990189
You should do ASMR.

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I feel like a girl
An actual girl
(with an appendage, but still a girl)


thank you anna

>>7990201
Yes

>>7990201
it's really nice and calming

>>7990200
Working on it, been using the reddit guide at the top of threads

>>7990216
The reddit guide is functionally useless, try talking to Zheanna.

https://youtu.be/Ok-S2HXyLds?t=2m6s

what if dysphoria was a physical entity you could fight?

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>>7990210

>>7990212
>>7990214
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1zlQK1JyJlu

>>7990221
I know Zhe is really good, but I don't really have the money to pay for training right now

>>7990221
it seems to work for some people but i didn't individual help and zheanna was an affordable option that was also experienced

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>>7990222
it'd be more like evangelion or something more feminine than dbz

>>7990227
Can I pay you to read a lewd passage

>>7990233
uh idk if id be okay with that

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>>7990216
i dunno about reddit but the topic came up at my group last night and apparently there's a good smartphone app, free with iap

didn't catch what it's called though

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When did y'all move from this thread to the last one??? there wasnt any link over

>>7990230
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Xe9UPWDzq2

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>>7990227
I bet it's going to be really nice after all the training you have been doing, I'm going to want to just listen to it all day...

>>7990229
Ah, that sucks. It's a worthwhile permanent investment if you do come across the cash.

>>7990230
JUST TALK FROM YOUR NOSE BRO IT'S AS EASY AS RAISING YOUR PITCH THEN TALKING THROUGH YOUR MOUTH XD
Fuck me for wasting so much time on that gay reddit link, half the stupid links are outdated, useless, or obsolete

>>7990239
um it doesn't sound too low which is good

you can train your voice to have a wider range but like what matters more is the resonance and you seem to have a voice that would be able to reach a female pitch

not all girls sound like high-pitched elves

>>7990239
What accent is this ?

>>7990249
chilean/generic latin american

>>7990240
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1A2D6WNCZUq

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>>7990239
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/eva-mtf/id960048814?mt=8
http://exceptionalvoiceapp.com/

looks like $250 for all the lessons unless there's a bulk purchase, but $5/lesson seems reasonable. i think there's a similar app on android & the website looks outdated (app was updated less than two weeks ago tho) but this is the one they were talking about at my group


>>7990239
you sound like a colombian girl i met a while back

>>7990246
I still haven't trained my voice yet
I just talk in a high pitched male voice
Which sounds shitty but it's enough to pass in combination with how i look

>>7990254
your girl voice is gonna be cute af jesus christ

>>7990254
I think it's going to end up super cute...

>>7990254
http://vocaroo.com/i/s16QDLNbOYLC

>>7990258
i never understood this

the first thing i did was start voice training, it seems like an important component to transitioning

maybe id just feel self-conscious if i passed like perfectly and wasn't able to back it up with voice

>>7990267
I did train but it wasn't doing much
I have to get an appointment with a voice therapist soon though

>>7990263
><

i think you're gonna end up super cute

>>7990267
voice training can be fairly difficult if DIY (or even entirely fruitless) or pretty expensive if you're paying for someone to train you

since i dont have the discipline to train it myself im putting it off until i can afford a voice coach

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>>7990272
I h-hope so

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s0RIuMCGCMoi

i think i'm gonna try some training soon

>>7990254
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1CYxlqvIKfo

> tfw your doctor already recommends VFS because you don't make progress with your speech therapist

Also English is a lot easier to girlvoice, I feel like German is really hard.

>>7990280
sounds andro

>>7990276
i know so!

and ill talk to sleep in august so you feel nice and safe ^^

>>7990275
Also my voice breaks a lit in some sentences
And i'm probably putting a lot of strain on it

http://vocaroo.com/i/s16QDLNbOYLC

>>7990290
oh gosh ><

>>7990210
Me too c:
Thank you for an amazing weekend

>>7990285

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1vH6didLbIU

>>7990298
*hugg*

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>>7990286
that's pretty good i guess, thanks :)

i think you don't sound terribly different from me, i'm a little less sing-songy when i'm more anxious (i.e. not in a place i feel explicitly safe)

>>7990285
i don't think you sound particularly masculine auf Deutsch or in english

>>7990293
am i sing-songy?

i always thought of myself as having a monotone voice

>>7990302
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0RIuMCGCMoi

i just meant that i'm more monotone when i'm in public

>>7990306
oh yeah i probably am too

gotta maintain my alpha male cover :)

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>>7990301
Oh look another animal poster

you're doing good anon <3

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>>7990299
German has a lot of ARRRW tho

>>7990301
It just sounds stupid :^)

>>7990310
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s16QDLNbOYLC
>>>
> Evangeline !AiPurity.s 03/26/17(Sun)12:34:42 No.7990293 ▶>>7990302
>>>7990290
>oh gosh ><
>>>
> Anna !FrozenfagI 03/26/17(Sun)12:35:51 No.7990298 ▶>>7990300
>>>7990210
>Me too c:
>Thank you for an amazing weekend
>>>
> Marina !!h6tYmtxU7g0 03/26/17(Sun)12:36:16 No.7990299 ▶>>7990310
>>>7990285
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1vH6didLbIU
>>>
> Myrthe !!vSfj84KBtdz 03/26/17(Sun)12:36:18 No.7990300 ▶
>>>7990298
>*hugg*
>>>
> Anonymous 03/26/17(Sun)12:36:46 No.7990301 ▶>>7990309 >>7990310
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>>>7990286
>that's pretty good i guess, thanks :)
>i think you don't sound terribly different from me, i'm a little less sing-songy when i'm more anxious (i.e. not in a place i feel explicitly safe)
>>>7990285
>i don't think you sound particularly masculine auf Deutsch or in english
>>>
> nim !!pVHY65x00yG 03/26/17(Sun)12:37:53 No.7990302 ▶>>7990306
>>>7990293
>am i sing-songy?
>i always thought of myself as having a monotone voice
>>>
> Anonymous 03/26/17(Sun)12:38:59 No.7990306 ▶>>7990308
>>>7990302
>>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0RIuMCGCMoi
>i just meant that i'm more monotone when i'm in public
>>>
> nim !!pVHY65x00yG 03/26/17(Sun)12:39:57 No.7990308 ▶
>>>7990306
>oh yeah i probably am too
>gotta maintain my alpha male cover :)
>>>
> Andrea !!PKYHQA29Wcu 03/26/17(Sun)12:40:26 No.7990309 ▶
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>>>7990301
>Oh look another animal poster
>you're doing good anon <3
>>>
> Franzi !6Hug.MeTFU 03/26/17(Sun)12:40:29 No.7990310 ▶
>File: 701146c872948054dd9713d90(...).jpg (32 KB, 395x450)
>>>7990299
>German has a lot of ARRRW tho
>>>7990301
>It just sounds stupid :^)
>>7990309
>>7990308
>>7990300
>>7990299
>>7990298
>>7990293
srsly, why not just use reddit if you're all gonna trip

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marriage

>>7990316
reddit is slower

id get downvoted on reddit if i said something that didn't agree totally with party lines

i cant use anime pictures to hide my crippling depression on reddit

>>7990318
i need dis

>>7990316
There are no lovely anons like you on reddit :(

>>7990323
~In a few years~

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>>7990316
this place is comfy desu

also karma is stupid

4chan has more of an old timey internet vibe, i hate what the normies did to the web

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>>7990325
Yee!