Why are lesbians more hostile to dick than gays are to vagina?

>>7932886
MTFs are gross desu

>>7932886
Its because cis lesbians on average are huge, and often very crazy, cunts. I say that as one myself. I hate my dating pool sometimes.

Most I've been were abused by men

because they were raped by their dad/uncle/grandpa's cock as children. its why they are lesbians.

>>7932996
True, Lesbians even have the highest rate of domestic abuse.

Lots of anger in the lesbian community.

>>7933033
I was molested by an older cousin as a kid, I'm not retarded enough to hate body parts or people because of it.

I was 8 and he was 15.

>>7932886
Same reason straight men hate trannies. Why are you blaming the lesbos?

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It seems like lesbians have a lot of pride in their labels and they feel like MTFs becoming part of their community would erode their reputation or something.

They are really hostile towards bi women too. Hence why being "Gold Star" is such a big deal for them. They call bi women "bi shits" and say they aren't to be trusted.

Basically they have a clique attitude and are hostile to everyone who wants to be part of their community.

Unfortunately for them Lesbian is an identity that applies to women who love women, so trans women who like women are there and there isn't anything they can do about it.

Many also feel that cis women's issues and language is being erroded by transwomen. I have seen them complain about not being able to talk about periods or things like that because they would be being exclusionary to MTFs... What I don't get is who is actually enforcing this?

It sounds more made up than anything. No one, (trans or otherwise ) is going to stop women from talking about their bodies. (however their bodies are configured.)

It is almost like they are becoming men with fragile masculinity. Only now their own femininity is some how threatened by these MTFs? I don't get what their beef is desu.

It all just seems sad and like always I would rather people got along.

Gay tops are hornier than straight men and a lot of the time they don't mind fucking a vagina because a hole is a hole.

Believe it or not there are some cis lesbians that are ok with transgirls but they're fairly rare, and usually the SJW type.

>>7933134
>Basically they have a clique attitude and are hostile to everyone who wants to be part of their community.
So, typical women.

Maybe I'm just around a younger bunch of gays, but in my experience, gay men seem very weary of FtM individuals where as lesbians seem alright with the idea of dating MtF as long as they aren't trans-hating radical feminist.

It may just be that, you can add a dick of any size, shape, or color to a FtM, but a dick is a dick is a dick for MtF.

Gays are more tolerant of Ftms in their thread but that doesn't mean they're willing to date or have sex with them.
Also ftms don't usually talk about trans issues outside the ftm thread. Mtfs completely shit up lesgen talking about tranny stuff. Their are more of them than cis lesbians so they just completely take over.

>>7933134
This. Many lesbians center their whole identity around hating dick. It's not even a true sexuality to many but just a culture or lifestyle. Just look at political lesbianism.

>>7932886
Social pressure and generally high number of not cool people leading to higher risks of rape so more of an apprehension/disgust from lesbians with male genitalia?

Also I guess it's easier to "simulate" a penis (dildo/strapon) than a vagina.

Might also have to do with the fact that gay guys are often (pushed to be) more effeminate than lesbians are (pushed to be) *really* masculine -- as in not androgynous. So gay guys might be more attracted to women than lesbians to men? Idk.

>>7933134
Being gold star is a big deal because it's well known that women retain DNA from their male sexual partners. Anyone who would knowingly taint themselves like that is insane.

>>7937067
>higher risks of rape
Transphobic bullshit.

Gay dude (300% Pure Top) here and I'm into FTM. They are fantastic.
I believe this is because penis's are threatning, gross and leaves behind residue. Lesbians already get shit for using dildos. It would be over for them if it was known they where taking dick on the regular. I would totally drop them.

In addition, MTF's also start shit by saying women aren't allowed to talk about their vaginas and its function and effect it has on them. In short, MTFs are ridiculous.

You never really hear FTMs complain. When they are around gay men they are generally only get upset if you don't want to give them dick or reference to them with female pronouns. The most they complain about not having a penis but I'm sure to remind them that if they actually had one I wouldn't be seeing them. And I've never in life heard any of them ever talk about a 'period' (disgusting).
In short ftms's are just better.

>>7937073
>incorporating minute amounts of other DNA into you is tainting yourself
that is how a sexual species thrives, by mixing DNA and seeing how things shake out. It's not like taking enough dick from a brown-eyed person is going to make your eyes brown. It can be a big deal to you but you say it like having sex is insane. You are more "tainted" by your interactions with other people than you are by tiny bits of DNA that is stored in your body.

If you're enough of a political lesbian that a tiny amount of male DNA in your partner is a dealbreaker, then your partner even interacting with any males would be so much worse because of the real influence they(and everyone you interact with) carry. The fact that she would be close enough to someone who happened to have a penis should be a greater sin because of the influence that person may have had on her as a person.

>>7933062
Straight man here. I don't hate trannies at all, familia.

>>7940000
Those digits though.

>>7940007
I was going to be really disappointed if nobody saw that in this dead ass thread. Thanks anon. :)

There's a disproportionately large amount of terfs on this board? I actually haven't come across any lesbians in my city who'd have a problem dating a trans woman

>>7940827
Pretty sure the /pol/tards have learned to roleplay TERFS. There can't be that many of them that'd bother coming to 4chan given their delicate sensibilities.

I talked to some of my irl cis lesbian friends about it and 4/5 of them said they'd have no problem with sleeping with or dating a mtf so long as she passed flawlessly and wasn't creepy or crazy.

4chan lesbians =/= all lesbians.

>>7932886
Um, what? Gays more willing to date FTM? What planet do you live on?

I'm gay and I'll be the first to admit that vaginas are revolting and I know plenty of other gay guys who feel that way.

>>7941442
Most ftms don't want to use their vaginas for sex because of dysphoria, and would rather take it up the ass or use a strap-on. Also, not all ftms have vaginas.

>>7941459
Yeah, I never see any gay guys wanting to date monsters.

>>7941484
One of my best [cis] gay friends dated an ftm for 3 years. It does happen.

>>7932886
>Why are lesbians more hostile to dick than gays are to vagina?
Because dicks are potentially dangerous and may rape you. A vagina is harmless.

>>7941498
Yeah, it happens, but it's EXTREMELY rare. Most gay guys are disgusted by FTMs.

>>7941539
>Most gay guys are disgusted by FTMs.
>Most
lmao. Maybe in your circle of friends but not everywhere.

I'm ftm and have a lot of cis gay friends, including several I met through 4chan. Many of them wouldn't date an ftm due to their personal preference but none of them find me "disgusting".

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The day will come when all the women will be cut off of this world.

>>7941539
Do you think all women are disgusting because they have vaginas? Do you even have friends outside /gaygen/?

What a sad, autistic world you must live in. Tsk tsk.

>>7941575
That's because they're being nice to you, fucking autistic freak.

And they'll never date you because you're a woman.

>>7941621
No, my only friends are individual pubic hairs I've plucked out and named.

>>7941622
>That's because they're being nice to you,
Why would they hang around me if they thought I was truly repulsive? Why would they give me hugs and be comfortable sitting next to me on a couch?

>fucking autistic freak.
Don't talk about yourself like that, anon.

>And they'll never date you because you're a woman.
Good, I don't want them to because I'm not attracted to men. Durrr.

>>7941622
You must have been rejected by a qt ftm to be filled with this much unnecessary hate.

>>7941649
Not supporting the perversion of the natural order and biology = being rejection

Whatever floats your boat (:

>>7941726
t. rejected and butthurt

I feel sorry for you, I truly do.

>>7941735
t. triggered because it's an abomination

>>7941750
Someone must have really hurt you.

>>7941758
Yeah, but it was never a tranny (:

>>7941440
>actually believes these women would tell a tranny the truth to its face
Uhhh. I'm an irl cis lesbian and I would lie if it meant avoiding the violent wrath of your kind.

>>7941507
MtFs can't and don't want to use their dicks though.

>>7942042
>I represent all people
Yeah ok. Moron.

>>7942692
Cis women think like that a lot.

>>7941484
I'm gay and been with my ftm bf for 3 years now.

>>7941507
A mouth and fingers can rape you too.

Rape =/= penis in a hole.

>>7941575

I'm gay and I'm not disgusted by you. Id fuck you.
As long as you pass.
Any of your gay friends try anything with you yet ?

>>7942760
Nice try, tranny

>>7937073
>>7937462
Where the fuck did this pseudo science come from? Where do you think the genetic material would be retained exactly? Hopefully not anywhere that, oh I don't know, comes into contact with the outside world, directly or indirectly, because guess what you're all but swimming in? Oh, skin.
Just... how do you actually come up with this? It's like a primary school kid screaming "eww, boy germs"

>>7932886
Because guys are so fucking pushy with their dicks. Women don't normally take close up pics of their vagina and send it to you, hell most women expect to be messaged first, so even if you're the hottest gay guy, maybe only a handful of dumb sluts will try to get up on you. Meanwhile, girls have to deal with COCK and some of these guys just don't take fucking no for an answer, and you can't even pull the gay card because that just makes them try even harder. All our experience with dick by the time we're adults, we don't wanna see it.

there's like 2 gay ftms on here vs 200 transbians

so yeah the gay dudes here don't give a fuck

but man do they hate women like nothing else

>>7943305
ask clg.

>>7933134
As a cis lesbian I think that it's really unecessary to act the way they do.
For MTFs as long as they pass/try their best to do so I don't get the issue? Same for bi women. The way they call them bisluts and bishits as if we were so much better for only liking pussy is ridiculous.

>>7936935
Tbh I would be ok with a transgirl but she would really have to pass well y'know

Homosexuality is not a real orientation, they all either hate women or are freaks of nature who don't want to use their dick, so of course they have to fuck each other, but then a FtM appears and pretty much any top will dump whatever disposable cumdump he's fucking and get with him (her). Most lesbians on the other hand are real and are only attracted to pucci.

>>7943454
>For MTFs as long as they pass/try their best to do
What about ones who can't possibly pass?

>>7943505
Well, as long as they don't start shitting the lesgen with tranny issues I'm ok?
It feels really awkward IRL though and I wouldnt date one.

>>7943446
With this sort of "memespouting" I doubt I'd get a coherent response. It's not even a good meme.

>>7932886
Both gay communities aren't really big on dating trannies, from what I've seen. It's mostly something straight/bi people seek.
Obviously there's exceptions.

Anyway, a lot of lesbians have this whole dick = rape mindset. I've seen some accuse other girls that use dildos of raping themselves.
They'll call it a "safety measure" but that's what it's referring to.
Not to mention, there's a lot of cisguys who pretend to be MTFs because it's their lifelong fetish to fuck a lesbian.

Saying this as someone who basically went undercover in the lesbian community for a few years.

>>7943412
This a thousand times.
So fucking tired of dickpics.

>>7933134
>They are really hostile towards bi women too.
Who isn't thse days?

>>7941599
I dunno I feel like women would cut off men from this world.

>>7943529
>there's a lot of cisguys who pretend to be MTFs because it's their lifelong fetish to fuck a lesbian.
Bullshit.

>>7943815
Nah, really. They're all over dating sites.

>>7943815
some guys will do anything to delve into the forbidden fruit. it's disgusting to see just how fucking thirsty some straight guys get.

Fuck. You people in this community really hate each other. It must be all the Cultural Marxism/identity politics that's the cause.

>>7943893
Everybody hates trannies and lesbians hate everybody, so it's expected.

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>>7943893
>Cultural Marxism
my least favourite meme, except when it actually has something to do with Marxism

>identity politics
a better choice of words, and you are correct

>>7932886
>Why are lesbians more hostile to dick than gays are to vagina?
I think it's pretty much the same, the difference is that for the majorityh of men a hole's a hole while for women is another thing.

I'm ftm but I'm not into men or mtfs and from my position it was way easier to fuck around when I was the token lesbian.

>>7943919
>Everybody hates trannies and lesbians hate everybody,
Like Jews and Muslims then.

>>7943893
It's actually right wing politics.

>>7943991
I'm pretty sure right wing politics aren't responsible for the meme wars of homos, biscum and trannies on 4chan... It just seems really unlikely.

>>7941726
>fag
>calling anyone a perversion of biology
w e w

>>7944087
>is defending people who mutilate their genitals

>>7933134
I was out a bar a few nights ago with some old friends, and I heard in the same conversation a lesbian talking about how she would never go for a bi-girl because they've taken dick, immediately followed by talking about how hot chasing straight girls are.

That shit made me do a spit take. Like what the hell, did she find that one magical virgin straight girl that was willing to sleep with a lesbian

>>7942692
Who are you quoting? Possibly yourself who thought your 4/5 "friends" represent all of us cis lesbians.

>>7944753
It's simple. Straight girls aren't attracted to women. It's an ego thing if you can convert them. It's actually found that straight women commonly fantasize about being converted by a lesbian. But bisexuals are attracted to women and men and that's boring, too easy, no real ego boost. The concept of dating and sleeping with a bisexual is very real and possible. Finding a virgin straight girl who will against all odds, fall for you? Way less so. There has been talk of some lesbians dressing up as straight women and going to lesbian bars to pretend to be straight. They get the other lesbian hyped up by believing a straight girl is interested in her and the fake straight chick strokes the other girls ego by telling her how she loves pussy now yadda yadda. It's weird but someone finds joy in it.

>>7947003
Are straight girls attracted to ftms?

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>>7947269
>Hey Anon, you're so cute! You're like a little brother who likes video games...
>Hey, Anon...maybe if you were a bit taller and had an actual, uh, well, dick, I'd go out with you...anyways, I'm going to hang out with Chad, see ya later!

Personally as a gay man I would have no issue dating a ftm as long as he made an effort to pass and acted like a normal man, unlike the majority of trans "men" in the community. If it's just some girl on a low dose of T who wants to lecture me on my cis gay male privilege then fuck no, obviously.

The transmen on here seem pretty well grounded so I know not all of them are crazy.

>>7946961
I am >>7941440 and the person you were replying to wasn't me, lol. I never suggested that my friends represented all lesbians. My point was that 4chan lesbians don't represent all lesbians. Just like Tumblr doesn't represent all ftms and Black Lives Matter doesn't represent all black people. It's not that difficult to understand if you actually pay attention to what you're reading.

>>7944097
Sodomy is mutilation.

>>7947886
Would you eat his pussy?

>>7947003
>There has been talk of some lesbians dressing up as straight women and going to lesbian bars to pretend to be straight. They get the other lesbian hyped up by believing a straight girl is interested in her and the fake straight chick strokes the other girls ego by telling her how she loves pussy now yadda yadda. It's weird but someone finds joy in it.
Rape by deception.

>>7947943
No it's not.

>>7932886
Not always so, I'm 97per cent into girls,
but there are a few I've been with.
In OR OUT of ''drag''.

>>7947975
*her

>>7948614
>ripping and stretching assholes
>not mutilation
retard alert

>>7948752
>thinks that's what happens every time you have anal sex
>virgin detected

>>7948755
It feels great not being a fag who loves slathering my dick in feces.

>>7948763
Cool

>>7932886
>Why are lesbians more hostile to dick than gays are to vagina
not anywhere close to true

>>7941539
i lost my virginity to a gay guy. i'm mostly into females though

>>7947920
No it makes no sense if you actually chime in to respond for someone who isn't you. But I guess you think you're sensible in your ad hominems. I never said I represented everyone, I simply insisted on understanding context. Like if a black guy had five straight female white friends and he asked if they'd date a black man. Are they going to say no to his face? Chances are they'll be like "it's possible" to avoid offending him. But realistically they know they wouldnt.

>>7947003
Straight girls most commonly watched pornography is lesbian porn. Not to mention most of them will do anything in the name of ""fun""

>>7943982
underrated post

>>7947269
Yeah
They're more open to dating a FTM than a gay guy would be.

>>7941440
>mtf so long as she passed flawlessly and wasn't creepy or craz
So none of them?

>>7948918
Imagine being this retarded.

>>7932886
There is a level of entitlement, spoiltness and victim complex thats makes them so insane, most gays dont have these issues, gays that act like that are often hated and dont get a pass because they are male.

>>7949256
>There is a level of entitlement, spoiltness and victim complex thats makes them so insane,
aka womanhood

>>7943875
Lesbians tend to be among the ugliest among cis women unless you are into being dominanted by angry women are into girls that look a lazy fat guys i dont see the appeal.

>>7947003
I mean, the point I was trying to make was the sheer hypocrisy of what she said. In the same breath she commend bi-girls for sucking/taking a dick, while commenting how cute/hot straight girls are, ignoring the fact that there's a 99% chance any straight girl that would be down to experiment has probably already taken a good dicking or two (dozen).

I should have pointed that out but everyone was already kinda on edge and I didn't wanna make the night worse.

>>7949874
I guess she/lesbians feel like bi-girls are betraying them? Since they (god forbid) like both pussy and dick.
Whereas straight girls are already completely into dick.

The logic is stupid but I'm trying to make sense of it.
Not that anon, by the way.

>>7949251
I get it. No argument. You just think calling others stupid makes you look correct. Another reason why cis lesbians should not date trannies.

>>7950207
>implying trannies want to date fatasses with terrible personalities
Keep flattering yourself by all means, if it makes you feel better

>>7950254
This.

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>>7933134
I got court ordered to take part in domestic violence classes for women a few years back, they told me explicitly before the class that it was a womens class and most of the girls there wouldnt have a clue about trans-issues, and that if I came out or not was up to me. I stayed stealth and we spend an hour every week talking about periods, childbirth, childrearing, husbands, it was a very enlightening experience desu. Especially in regards to raising children, it was pretty intense to hear one woman talking about how her kid who was taken away from her went to the same church as her- she reached out to the family and they told her they wanted to stop going to the same church as them. Really powerful moving stuff that Im still not sure how to feel about.

Point is though, if youre in a womens space as a transwomen you should be aware its not the place to discusss trans issues. We have support groups specifically for that too, and cis people mostly leave us be in those.

>>7950510
>I got court ordered to take part in domestic violence classes for women a few years back,
Why?

>and that if I came out or not was up to me.
I should think so. The arrogance of them.

>Point is though, if youre in a womens space as a transwomen you should be aware its not the place to discusss trans issues.
Does that apply to all issues that only matter to a subset of a group?

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>>7950552
Friend of mine turned my number into the police and claimed I was harassing him, him and his friend started enough of a stint they took it to court. I took the plea bargain because once I finished the class it would erase the entire incident from me record, almost like they knew I was a scared tranny they could extort. No, I definitely do not talk to the guy anymore, and all of my friends pretend he doesnt exist as well.

Im only speaking on behalf of womens spaces, when Im in a womens space I go 100% stealth and drop any tranny shit at the door. Its just being considerate, when in rome do as the romans do. These women came to talk to other women about issues they could all relate to, no other woman in the building can relate to my dysphoria so its not very fair of me to bring it up, if anything it would show a lack of social skills on my part and/or a desire/need for attention.

Like theres a trans support group that meets weekly at the church down the street from the counseling building that hosted the womens group, I can always go there to tallk about dysphoria. Theres a time and place for everything.

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Would you fuck a post-surgery tranny

>>7950609
i'm not gay so no.

>>7950649
Why are you here

>>7950666
i'm a tranny.

>>7950697
What if they were the opposite gender

>>7950853
idk depends on what ftm sex is like.

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>>7950254
Honestly I would date anybody, and being verbally abused by someone would give me something legitimate to pity myself over

>>7950918
You never know until you try

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>>7932886

>Why are lesbians more hostile to dick than gays are to vagina?

Because they desperately want the "D".

>>7949874
It's similar to how gay guys will worship straight men while villainizing bi men. One you can't have because they don't want you. The other you can have but you don't want. Straight women are like an expensive luxury dessert item you can't afford. Bisexual women are like tootsie rolls. Handed out and thrown about, cheap and available. So while bisexuals are gross for choosing to be straight, straight people are allowed because they don't choose - forbidden fruit.

>>7951780
ITT why straight guys hitting on lesbians is okay

>>7950254
Again with the ad hominems. I'm 5'4" and 119 lbs. Does that make your 6ft frame and absurdly large feet feel better?

>>7951794
Not ok but you get why they do it. It isn't logical. But there are a million straight men to a dozen lesbians and a million straight women to fifty gay dudes. An attractive lesbian commonly sees the ocean of straight women curiously pawing at them and so you see lesbians sleeping with straight women is not rare. A straight woman and a straight man, however, have waaaaaay more options than gay people do. Bisexuals have way more options than gay people do. So it doesn't make sense for a straight woman to want a gay man or a straight man to want a lesbian because they have every advantage in the numbers game to find someone actually interested in them. Lesbians and gay men dont. So they play with the idea of converting.

>>7950600
>Friend of mine turned my number into the police and claimed I was harassing him, him and his friend started enough of a stint they took it to court. I took the plea bargain
You plead guilty and were forced to attend classes just because some people made false accusations, that presumably had no evidence?

>Its just being considerate, when in rome do as the romans do. These women came to talk to other women about issues they could all relate to,
Does this apply to all minorities? Keep your issues to yourselves?

>>7950600
>Im only speaking on behalf of womens spaces, when Im in a womens space I go 100% stealth and drop any tranny shit at the door. Its just being considerate, when in rome do as the romans do.

Uh, this is obvious to any trans woman who actually cares about passing. This is never the issue.

>>7951838
It is fair to say that the forbidden fruit desire isn't just a man only thing though, which I have seen a lot of women in the past imply.

>>7953914
Women have victim complexes, of course they'd imply that.
But yeah, I have also seen a lot of girls who fantasize about a "gay bff" that they eventually convert.

>>7940834
Calling false flag is stupid imo. I don't think /pol/ocks want to waste their time with that. Some are trolls, sure, but a lot of them are crazy ass basement dwellers who legit believe that shit and are too busy preaching of the evil Jews to waste time with us.

>>7933062
Hating trannies feels more regional than based upon sexuality. Unless you mean straight men getting infuriated by knowingly fucking one. I sorta feel them, but still don't approve of how they often react.

>>7948763
Feels great being a bi who knows how much better our hygiene is than yours.

>>7951780
Similar, but not as intense. Plenty of gay guys have broken my heart, got super close to me, like could have spent my life with them, but then they went on tirades about bi men and I dropped them like hot potatoes, then they used me as proof of their hate for doing it.

But damn, I once saw a lesbian violently attack a girl for not being gold star, I had to intervene to save a friend. Similar, but to different levels.

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>>7943454
I am thankful for your existence! <3

>>7943705
It is a shame really.

>>7944753
This is an entirely too common theme. I know many cis lesbians claim it is the thrill of the chase. I totally get that. However, I do see the contradiction at play. I feel really bad for bi women. Also them being a virgin isn't usually even really a thing. (Like it doesn't matter)

If a lesbian converts a straight girl they often just call the converted girl straight (non gold star) because they are proud of having converted her and don't want to be attached to the bi label even by association.


>>7950510
Underrated post for sure.

I am indebted to the women who have come before me to help establish our rights. I am grateful to my mother even though she will never accept me as her daughter. I have loved many women as family members and as lovers.

For all these reasons and more I would never go into a womans space and fuck things up. I recognize that if I need help with trans stuff there are other places, and I don't want to hoist my shit on anyone.

That being said as a woman I hurts to be excluded from things like that. I am fully capable of being respectable in a place like that and I pass and would go about things in a stealth manner.

I think that is sort of the key people need to go for. Not making waves.

What sucks is that most trans exclusionists would never like to even give us the chance to prove ourselves. That is what really hurts. Being stereotyped so badly (either for being trans or additionally for being a trans lesbian) that they go the lengths they do to hurt and invalidate us.

>>7953959
I remember one time when I ran into my cousin at a grocery store, she had a pretty nasty black eye which she didn't wanna talk about. Later found out from her brother that her gf at the time found out her first serious relationship was with a guy back in high school and she lost her virginity to him. So, in light of this news, decided the best reaction to that was to deck her but good.

Cousin got out of that relationship, thank god but I can tell it sorta fucked with her head. She hasn't really tried dating since then and that was like two years ago.

>>7932886
Probably because men are massive perverts who think people want to look at their gross dicks.
I don't think women send pussy pics to random people.
I'm a gay man btw but I can understand why lesbians are grossed out by men and their need to show everyone their rancid genitals.

>>7954217
Yes women do and it is sooooo grotty! Mostly your basic bitch "420 gurl" does it.

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i have mix feeling about them
i mean i have hobbies that are really popular among male demographic so i have a higher changed to fund a mtf in that interest then a f
on the other hand the most mtf i date are really insecure and sentimental and i dont have the time or interest to be a partner and a psychologist at the same time

>>7953914
It's not a male only thing but it's more of a male thing. My theory is men generally place a lot of importance on sex. They tend to have fragile egos and sex is the best way to make them feel like they're worth something. So they imagine those scenarios more often than women do.

>>7957005
>My theory is men generally place a lot of importance on sex. They tend to have fragile egos
Why do you perceive this?

>>7953934
>But yeah, I have also seen a lot of girls who fantasize about a "gay bff" that they eventually convert.

This shit's gotten me really fucking wary of straight girls that hang around gay bars. Like at first I was like "who gives a shit, they probably just don't wanna be hit on by guys too much" but now it's getting to the point where I get more girls talking to me at a gay bar then the fucking sports bars I go to with my friends.

>>7954236
>grotty
>basic bitch "420 gurl"

MODS

fuck of middle schooler

>>7957063
Well biologically they have a more consistent, sometimes greater interest in sex on a general level. In the world we live in they are made to repress feminine emotions, they have to be masculine and successful in order to attract a woman. It's much harder for a guy to get a girl than it is for a girl to get a guy. Men need to standout among the sea of other dudes. While women are seen as competitors they do so on different terms - which is another matter. Anyway, dudes are indistinguishable from each other most of the time. They feel like they don't have the paycheck, the smarts, the athleticism, the looks, etc. Because they're not expected to be all things to everybody but they still want to be that rich alpha male who is desired by women. It's why men develop fragile egos. If they aren't doing what they are expected to do AS MEN then they start falling apart. And as I've seen, if his wife makes more money than him it can be a huge bruise to his confidence and he gets rather nasty. Anyway in regards to trying to hit on lesbians, they feel extra manly. They are so good at sex, so dominant, so this or that - that a woman who should against all odds be disinterested in him is interested. That is something those lacking confidence seek out. That feeling of power, of triumphing over others and making others weak under their power.

>>7954217
lol a chick I talked to on Skype used to send me these kinds of pictures, and a couple of short videos, back when I was like 16. I think she was 25. That was a longass time ago, I wonder how she's doing these days...

>>7957778
>While women are seen as competitors they do so on different terms - which is another matter.
Could you go into it?

How can their fragile egos be spotted? How do they fall apart? The wife making more money is one way, but only a minority of men are ever in the position for that to be seen.

>>7957942
I meant more about women competing with women. Women compete with women subconsciously at times. They compete for men at times, usually when those men fulfill the right factors that make them desirable to multiple people. Women tend to understand and judge value based on what other women want - which can cause issues, but in terms of partners you see it in how they find married or partnered people more desirable. I don't think men see women as competitors. More like prizes or props. Perhaps in a setting where a gay man competes with a straight woman but I've rarely heard of that taking place. Women don't view men as competitors. At times they are commodities or threats. But that's all unhappy to think about.

As far as fragile egos, we're fed this rhetoric that women need to latch on to a man and men drag them around but from what I've seen - men are very reliant on women. He'll likely have a fragile ego (which is different from being sensitive. Sensitive does not equate to being dangerous, those with fragile egos can become harmful) if he acts possessive, really eager to have a relationship, and can be just be unnecessarily critical. He'll likely have bouts of anger that are terrifying and aggressive. But all this can easily be hidden from those outside the couple - until it reaches a boiling point. There are signs, it's unfortunate that I dismissed them when people I knew were trapped in these kinds of relationships. Insecure men are common once you recognize their symptoms. And that's what's sad.

>>7948964
I've always wondered if most of the females in that online survey were just tranasbians.

>>7948014
Yup.

>>7932886
Female arousal is more psychological, whereas male arousal is more physiological

Because they want a penis free space and trannies are going undercover to invade and undermine the secret womyn space.

Sanctified in the first period blood of gold star lesbians who never even kissed a male.

Penises are mildly dangerous to non penis possessing creatures.

And cum can burn like a weak acid.

>>7958437
>I meant more about women competing with women. Women compete with women subconsciously at times.
How is that different from the way men compete with men?

>I don't think men see women as competitors. More like prizes or props.
Surely that's the same way women see men?

>but from what I've seen - men are very reliant on women.
Emotionally reliant? How so?

>He'll likely have a fragile ego (which is different from being sensitive.
Would they be opposites? Lack of the latter causes the former?

>There are signs, it's unfortunate that I dismissed them when people I knew were trapped in these kinds of relationships.
What signs did you ignore?

How can the man's partner, or other people he knows, help if they spot them? How can the man deal with his own fragile ago?