When will you trannies man up? The truth is, and us men don't

>>7927391
Not a tranny, just a gay dude, but how about this?

No. Fuck women and their bullshit.

>>7927391
>being a man is so shit that people literally turn their lives into an attempt to be female
>therefore men should man up and keep providing female privilege to women
cuck

You're wrong and crazy. Crazier than us. Please stop spouting your craziness before you infect more people with your craziness.

>>7927426
/Thread

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>>7927391
What you're on about?... idk what your little internet statistics chart said to you, but in the real world Men typically enjoy being men, even if they have a rouge thought about wanting to be a Girl it would be very brief and most likely pass.

Now if you're asking me.. why i'm a MtF it's not because i looked at the life of a Woman and said to my self "Wow they got it easy"

Haha B.S Men are the ones who have it easy, Men don't need to take care of them selves as much as a woman would do to what society excepts out of them, Men don't gotta wear something different everyday they are very low maintenance compared to Women.. I could make a long list of why i feel men probably have it better, but i won't because it would be a long boring list..

I'm not saying being a Women doesn't come with any perks... but the grass isn't really greener on the other side... and for me wanting to be a WOMAN it's not because it's what i want... you think i WANT to be a guy taking Hrt? i'v been this way since i was just a kid..

Anyways, bottom line.. if you take Hrt to try to look more like a Female so you can live that easy female life...

lol well... i'v got news for you.

>>7927391
>You need to be a MAN, MAN UP and PROVIDE EVERYTHING FOR A WOMAN because i said so!
t. repressing cuck :^)

>>7927391
>All men secretly wish they were girls/females.
Saying this is a repressor red flag lol.

>>7927391
Shut up you pussy ass bitch faggot. Get a life.

>>7927391
>All men secretly wish they were girls/females. We're well aware that males are shafted in every way: military conscription, circumcision, less sympathy from others, harder to get laid, inability to create a human being.
Then explain the male feminists who reject the notion of female privilege.

>The thing is, you weak males that actually do give in to that wish, actually take hormones to look like a female so you can reap the privileges of being one, by deceiving others into thinking you have a uterus in "stealth". But the vast majority of men are not crybabies, we get over it and move on with life and deal with what we have.
It seems like the men who live as men are the weak ones, as they bow down to society's demands rather than do what actually maximizes their happiness.

>You need to man up and make yourself look like a man. You need to be a man. In a perfect world, everyone's external appearance reliably advertises their genitalia.
Why? Is this ``perfect world" not subjective, and defined by your own values, which not everyone shares?

>A woman needs a man like you: A man is responsible for getting a well-paying job and providing a female with all the resources/money she needs to have a baby and take care of it.
Again, why? It seems to me that you're just buying into social norms, without really deciding whether they're valid.

>>7927485
>Men don't need to take care of them selves as much as a woman would do to what society excepts out of them, Men don't gotta wear something different everyday they are very low maintenance compared to Women..
Has the E gone to your brain or are you just desperately attempting to deny to yourself the possibility that your transition could have been influenced by seeing greener grass?

Men get drafted into forced labor and sent to their deaths, to protect women. Boys routinely have their genitals mutilated at birth and are pressured into doing the same to their sons, while women's bodies are untouchable. This is just a start, the most obvious things that even OP can figure out.

What's your response? "Guys don't need to wear makeup and can wear the same shirt twice in a row."

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>>7927391
Bitter repressed hon/future hon who will kill himself at 40 detected.

Your primitive caveman insecurity is amusing.
Men are truly expendable and worthless. I can't wait until all men are lined up, shipped into concentration camps and forcefully milked for their semen until they die because that's their only purpose in life tbqh.

>>7927521
>Then explain the male feminists who reject the notion of female privilege.
kek
it's funny because they're manginas just like op

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>>7927391
>All men secretly wish they were girls/females.

>>7927531
>Men get drafted into forced labor and sent to their deaths
The only non-consensual ``drafting" that men are subject to but women aren't is the military draft, which is essentially not a practical concern in modern Western countries, and in fact in America they're moving towards extending conscription to women.

>to protect women
And disabled men. Are you seriously going to try to claim that men who can't walk are more ``privileged" than able-bodied men?

>Boys routinely have their genitals mutilated at birth and are pressured into doing the same to their sons, while women's bodies are untouchable.
There isn't really much of an upside to circumcision, but most men don't really consider it a big deal. The reason it's not okay to do it to females is because the closest ``equivalent" operation that can be done to the female anatomy is INHERENTLY more destructive.

>>7927588
Not going to bother if you're just going to spout lies.

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>>7927531
>or are you just desperately attempting to deny to yourself the possibility that your transition could have been influenced by seeing greener grass?

See you're talking as if you knew something about me.. because you don't know anything about me john snow.

>Men get drafted into forced labor and sent to their deaths, to protect women

Ohrlly? So when was the last time a Man got drafted here in the USA? And forced into labor? what part of the world are you from? You bring these topics up as if it was an on going issue with men... even though it's NOT an issue at all.

I drive a desk as a job, and i work along side a lot of Women... Yea bro, i'm really reaping in those female privileges..
Besides your view of "Female privilege" is distorted, you're clearly the one who is delusional if you think Female privilege is all i ever cared about, lol when i was young and i couldn't understand why i wasn't a girl i was really in deep thought about all the female privilege.

And it's kinda clear you made this thread to troll Mtf's.. are you that Cara shit poster by any chance?

>>7927391
I'm too masculine to be a woman, so I stayed a man, work a low paying job, have no gf/wife and kids and play video games/smoke weed. Happy now?

>>7927613
Not an argument

>>7927693
Op would be proud, and remember when you're on your death bed... you made op proud, and that's all that really matters.

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>>7927587
>being this delusional

>>7927626
damn he is so cute

>>7927717
I will die a happy man knowing I made some anon on 4chan proud of me.

>>7927588
>but most men don't really consider it a big deal

Because we don't know how it would have been with a foreskin. Circumcision is a barbaric practice and the fact that it is still legal makes me physically sick. The reason why there aren't more men speaking out against this is because no one would ever admit that there is something wrong with their dick. There is not one wake hour where I don't deeply hate the fact that I was cut at birth.

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>>7927391
>All men secretly wish they were girls/females

>>7930674
Lol look at this shit. I don't see how OP can claim that every man wants to be a woman, when men literally love their dicks so much, this man literally can't go an hour without resenting his lack of foreskin. I don't even think about how I want a vagina that often, and I've tried to kill myself over wanting to be a girl before. Men can't ever love anything but their dicks.

>>7931028
Plenty of trans girls feel the same as that guy about being cut. Worse even, because SRS.

>>7931066
I highly doubt any non-AGP transgirl cares about their dick that much, shit I've even considered getting a penectomy instead of SRS just so I could get rid of mine faster. foreskin isn't all that necessary for SRS, and even if it does help with the results anyone's a fool if they honestly expect their neo-vag to be like a real one. Transwomen who care about their dicks or want to keep them are just AGP men trying to be women, and like with all things they fail at it because their love of their dicks get in the way. sad.

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>>7927391
>When will you trannies man up?
Never. Have fun being the load-bearing pillar of civilization. Now get back to work! I have tendies to cook for my manchild bf.

>>7931103
>anyone who doesn't fit my view isn't trans

>>7931142
I think you've misread anon. I'm just saying that anyone who isn't trans isn't trans simple as that. I'm sure you would agree if one doesn't feel dysphoria they're not trans right? Well if a man is so in love with his penis he couldn't be rid of it then he doesn't feel dysphoria, so he's not trans. Just ask if you need me to clarify some more.

>>7931103
t. just wants SRS to be a whore and get fucked by a million guys

>>7931217
I'm in a committed monogamous relationship actually.

>>7931244
Living out your fetishistic dream of being a 50's housewife to some chaser I expect.

>>7931252
Nah. I'm actually in a relationship with a girl. I'm only really sexually attracted to dudes, but they're boring, you can't really emotionally connect with them or do fun stuff with them, so I've settled for only dating girls unless a really special guy comes along, but I think I'm probably gonna stick to with my current gf long term.

>>7931271
Confirmed AGP. Statistically AGPs are far more likely to get SRS. AGPs are why so few trannies are straight. It seems you're the man here.

>>7931303
Alright, that's nice. Why don't you run along and avatar-fag some anime pictures in /mtfg/ and talk about your "girltinkler"

Just know, plenty of girls are in relationships with women, but only men have dicks.

>>7931321
>only men have dicks
t. admitted he's a man

>and talk about your "girltinkler"
I don't like it, because I'm an AGP like you.

Sad that you feel you have to justify your transness by denying the transness of others, and inadvertently yourself.

>>7931366
>admitted he's a man
I know. I am a man, at least physically. That's why I want to get SRS.
>I'm an AGP
well I mean, I could tell. Every MtF that holds some fetishist "gurls can have penises toooo hun!!! xoxoxo" stance on whether or not SRS is necessary is.
>Sad that you feel you have to justify your transness by denying the transness of others
It's a darn shame ain't it. Go hang out with your buddies on r/asktransgender, I'm sure they're much more likely to hold fetishist-enabling views than the people here on /lgbt/.
>and inadvertently yourself
But it doesn't hurt me though. I can even say "hey world, I'm not trans!" and it doesn't matter, cuz I still have dysphoria, I still know I'm trans. I don't care if someone on the internet wants to tell me "trutrans don't get SRS because real women actually behave like straight male fetishists!"

>>7931416
>I still know I'm trans.
You're evidently AGP and >>7931103 makes it obvious you're are suppressing in oder to justify to yourself that you are trutrans.

>because real women actually behave like straight male fetishists!
You mean like you behave?

>>7931437
>agp
>not trutrans
haha alright there

>>7931437
>suppressing in oder to justify to yourself that you are trutrans
You caught me, my trans status depends entirely on my deoderants ability to surpress my BO.
More seriously I can't tell what the fuck you're trying to say.
>You mean like you behave
No I'm referring to how AGP men generally are fond of their dicks in the way men are, and are usually attracted to other penis having trans women, and thus try to perpetuate the myth that real transwomen keep their penises, serving the double purpose of validating their trans identity and maintaining a higher number of transwomen "girl tinklers" to drool over. It's a gross and cruel lie that only a man could invent.

>>7931446
Tell that to him >>7931103

>>7931479
>how AGP men generally are fond of their dicks
Except you invented this fact which is known to be false in your own mind because you're an AGP man who wants to pretend he's different from AGP men.

>It's a gross and cruel lie that only a man could invent.
I guess your misandry is connected to your desperation to be a "real transwoman".

>>7931506
>which is known to be false
Even when I call you on your lie you continue on with your charade. Your kind's disgusting. Go beat your meat to some "shemale" porn and leave your abusive views of real transwomen off this board, you might hurt the feelings of an actual normal young trans girl who needs support.
>I guess your misandry is connected to your desperation to be a "real transwoman"
1. Misandrys not real lol
2. No, I had to learn firsthand how terrible men can be before my views developed. I do know there are good men, but most have much more potential for evil than women. Not of their own fault of course, it's just the way society raises them.

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>>7931542
Misandry is real, also, women are more evil than men, so its actually misogyny that doesnt exist

>>7927391

Then why do male therapists who help trannies come to term with their gender dysphoria not transition themselves? Why is it that most males seeking therapy for a list of reasons like divorce, anxiety, childhood trauma, inadequacy, and whatever else will never bring up their desire to be a woman even though they might as well since they're working through everything else?

>>7931644
No.

>>7931654
>feminist tier argument

>>7931683
It's not like the post I'm responding to said anything more substantial than 'no' either, so why should I?

>>7931542
>>7931644
God, you two are both idiots. Misandry and misogyny are both real things. Neither of them are systematic in the West. (The worst thing you could say is that the West tends to be gynocentric, but that's a cultural thing so good luck changing it.) Also, "potential for evil" is an individual thing, not a gender thing. Grow up and stop being two sides of the same idiotic coin.

>>7931725
Look we might be idiots, but at least you're mature and smart enough to know we're both wrong. Good job buddy, I don't know where we'd be without you. The world could use more people who hold entirely middle of the road non-offending stances like you. You're practically a genius in fact.

>>7931755
Dude, I'm not a centrist by any means, and calling me one doesn't make you any less stupid.

>>7931840
I'm not saying you're a centrist or that I'm not stupid, just that you're really really smart. Good job, give yourself a pat on the back.

>>7930674
>Because we don't know how it would have been with a foreskin.
So clearly being without a foreskin isn't as bad as gender dysphoria. Plenty of MtFs notice that being male seems wrong for them, even from a young age, even though they don't have the experience of being female to compare it to. Whereas for me, being circumcised is such an insignificant thing that I didn't even find out I was circumcised until after I graduated high school.

>>7927588
>The only non-consensual ``drafting" that men are subject to but women aren't is the military draft, which is essentially not a practical concern in modern Western countries, and in fact in America they're moving towards extending conscription to women.
I'm not sure your feminist denial of female privilege does much to make people like >>7932513 feel any better.

>>7932882
If their country has a policy anything like the US, a "draft registration letter" doesn't mean you're going to be drafted, it's just a requirement that all adult males be part of the draft database in case it's ever needed. You have to sign up for it even if you're unable to walk. And as I point out, in America the draft is being made gender-neutral, something which feminists like me are fully in favor of.

>>7932921
I wonder if you're in favor of it in the many countries that do actually conscript people, like Sweden, Finland and several others in Europe.

>>7932925
I'm in favor of it there, too. I'd rather there not be any conscription for either sex (since it's essentially slavery no matter which sexes are eligible), but having it be gender-neutral is at least a step in the right direction.

>>7927391
>A man is responsible for getting a well-paying job and providing a female with all the resources/money she needs to have a baby and take care of it.

Posted by someone who'll never have a woman or kids

>>7927391
I'm not trans
And I'm still a sissy gayboy

>>7932957
I agree. Legalize FGM now.

>>7927391
While that may be true for you, anon, I'd rather have my dick than have female privelidge.

>>7933558
Only if the females in question have dicks. Doing the "equivalent" of circumcision on "female anatomy" is inherently more destructive than ordinary circumcision.

>>7933705
Source?

poetry in motion, op.

look at all these fish you caught

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>>7933705
Lol no, im circumcising my daughter if i ever have one, i hope i can get a type 3, it will most likely be cleaner, and also, she wont have anything to compare it to, and it may reduce the chance of stds

>>7933823
You forgot that it will make her look like her mother too.

>>7933844
What?

>>7927490

Yeah, cis men don't think that. Only way being a woman seems not just like a 'better deal', but actually more DESIRABLE, is if you're already a woman inside.

>>7927391
>us men don't usually say this out because we're not whiny crybabies: All men secretly wish they were girls/females.
No, no we don't
You just believe that because you're mentally weak and want to have your pussy slammed by a cock because you're a god damn spineless fuccboi
At least traps have the balls to say they want to be girls because they enjoy it instead of pretending everyone wants to to justify their point of view
This is literally the second time I've come to /lgbt/(the other time being because there was a thread on /pol/ saying you guys were pissed about something and I was curious) and out of all the threads on here yours was the only one that irked
Think about that

>>7927391
I'm a man and enjoy being a man. Dont speak for 3.5 billion people d00d. Also having a deep voice is nice.

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>>7931725
>capitalizing the word "west"

>>7927391
Actually implying trans are doing it for privilege rather than GD etc? You sound like a repressing agp btw.

>>7934013
Why couldn't it be more desirable to a cis man? It doesn't mean he'll transition.

>>7935441
>You sound like a repressing agp btw.
why?

>>7931178
Im dysphoric about my face and appearance not so much my dick and ive had dysphoria as a child, just because i dont have ridiculous GD of my dick to a point of killing myself doesnt make me non trans.

>>7935473
The person you are talking to would likely say your GD doesn't count and is just other issues such as depression.

>>7935508
So having typical female mannerism, and knowing your are in the wrong sex since child makes my dysphoria invalid because i acknowledge i have a dick and try to work with it rather then go insane and try to chop off my dick because it triggers me? No wonder they call us mental.

I know many woman that would rather have a dick then a vagina because its just easier my only issues are sex with guys can be more annoying, and cant give birth.

>>7935455

Because normal people are comfortable with their gender, or at least more comfortable than they would be with the other one. The absence of that is WHY trannies transition.

>>7935536
I expect so. Look at their phrasing
>anyone who isn't trans isn't trans simple as that.
>if a man is so in love with his penis that he couldn't be rid of it then he doesn't feel dysphoria
As far as they are concerned, not cutting your penis off right now = no dysphoria = no trans.

>>7935559
Fuck them then, probably a hon .

>>7927391
Only weak men want to be female

>>7935664
Indeed. Many posters also call anyone who doesn't take their penis as much as they do AGP. I'm surprised nobody in this thread has.

>>7933869
The normal justification for MGM, along with
>it will most likely be cleaner, and also, she wont have anything to compare it to, and it may reduce the chance of stds
is "so he looks like his father."

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>>7927391
Glorious straight male coming through, from /pol/

So all men want to be girls.. huh? HAHAHAH

Oh wait you're serious.. Let me laugh even harder..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

You gotta be joking m8? only weak pathetic spineless people like you OP would even consider thinking that.

Face it, you're a faggot in denial trying to corrupt the straight man.

My god op i can't get over on how massive of a faggot you're being...

>All men secretly wish they were girls/females.

Haha nah... only you and the other sissies on this board want to be girls.

If you at all think you're a real man op.. your not, you're a spineless sheep who wants to play with his boipussi

>>7936411
>"""""straight""""" male

>>7935544
Someone could be comfortable as their assigned gender and if they transitioned.

>>7936411
> "straight male" using the word boipussi
stop hating yourself and go suck some dick

>>7927588
>Not a practical concern.
Keep telling yourself that

>>7927626
>when was the last time a Man got drafted here in the USA? And forced into labor?

The Vietnam War. Not even a single generation ago.

> NOT an issue at all.
They're still sending out a form that people have to sign saying that if shit were to fall apart because, you know, humans have been in a perpetual state of war since...ever, that you accept you will be rounded up and forced to fight on your country's behalf. This is absolutely an issue and one you need to be more willing to talk about. Fuck, everyone, male, female, everyone should be willing to talk about why they don't think that war is the right lifestyle for them personally.

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>>7927391
0/10

it's bait guys.

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>>7946194
>The Vietnam War. Not even a single generation ago.
protip: a generation is 20 years
The Vietnam War ended in 1975
so either you're bad at math or your argument is invalid

>>7936411
So this is what projection/deep repression looks like l0l

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>>7927391
/pol/-tier denial at its finest, and also complete bait.

Normal men don't think too deeply about whether being a woman or a man is "better," anon. They just accept that they're men, root for their team, and take pride in what masculinity they have. Or strive for more of it if they feel they are lacking.

Being even remotely tempted to give up and get an extremely expensive set of surgeries and take an array of hormones for the rest of one's life isn't even remotely normal male behavior. Especially if you look masculine and socially acceptable to begin with. Even most of my beta friends would never consider doing something like that. See you in /mtf/, OP.

>>7946144
>keep telling yourself the truth
Thank you, I will! Hope you have a nice day :)