My friend has said stuff like this before, and I'm worried

>>7858801
He probably doesn't see you as an "attractive" girl tho

>>7858861
A lot of bi people find me attractive, I'm andro I think but have very nice features that would be attractive on either sex.
Grosses me the fuck out I might be seen as an attractive "girl" though.

>>7858801
> He doesn't see me as a man to begin with
How do you know this? Did you come out to him? How far have you transitioned, if at all? Why are you keeping a friend who sees you as a girl?

>>7859330
I'm in high school so everyone sees me as my birth gender since they've known me so long... I did come out with him and he always makes comments. Yesteday he said something about me and a girl friend "they're just being girls" because we were laughing. Stuff like that almost every time. But so does everyone else
Like I said, I'm andro but can't start t until out of the house.

>>7858801
>What do?
Accept that you can't control the feelings and opinions of others and have no right to?

>>7858801
>attractive girl
>implying attraction is not subjective
Let's rephrase it:
>Longterm friendship is something that can never exist between a guy and a girl that the guy wants to fuck. You're always hanging out with them with the underlying expectation that you'll eventually fuck them. Too much longing and jealousy.
You see… it doesn't have to be that controversial.

>>7859528
so you're a girl, and you're worried about people seeing you as a girl because you think you want to be a boy, even though your body has 0 indications of being a boy because you've not taken anything to transition. Just deal with it and tell everyone youre a lesbian to keep them off your back until you begin transitioning

>>7860756
>telling an aap to pretend to be a lesbian

>>7858801
>trans man
>attractive girl
I made this mistake already. If they know you as trans, then they are going to try to see you as your gender which means your attractiveness as a dude. Unless you aren't even on T and you look like a dyke, but even then I doubt a guy is going to find you attractive as a girl that way. If you were a transgirl it would be the same thing, hence why guys like traps because they are attractive as girls.

>>7860797
They don't try to see me as my gender... I wish they did. It's not like anything about me is extremely feminine; I get told I look like a femboy.
>>7860788
I'm not aap, I do in fact like girls but the word lesbian makes me want to fucking kms.

yeah, he wants to fuck you

guys get boners for andro girls, absolutely. a trans guy that's not on hormones is going to end up with the same result.

tell him to fuck off

>be female
> people see you as a female
> get mad
I'm sorry, but it's delusional to expect people to think of you as a guy at this stage.

>>7864962
I know, there wasn't really a point to this thread other than expressing my disgust lol. Nobody else really seems to get it, and think I should just appreciate the attention people give me because I don't look male yet.

>>7866221
You just need to find people who don't see gender as so defining. Then they can see you as masculine and acting masculine will be enough.

t. someone who wants to be seen as feminine the same way