Vagentleman/cuntman/etc question

>>7777132
Man, that's something else. But you know what? You do you, I do me. If that makes you happy, so be it.

>>7777132
As a bear that gets with chubbys and trans I say not to do the surgery. You will continue in conflict, it will be harder for you to find sexual partners.

>>7777169
Oh yeah forgot to say this, this isnt about some sexual shit or using it to get dicks or anything, i have little interest in random sex, i feel like doing this because it has been bugging me for years and would make me feel more comfortable being who i am, i understand the risks.

And i am not really worried about finding a partner, it doesnt matter if i am a gay man with a dick or a man with a fake vagina, i have very specific requirement for what i am looking for and i am quite narcissistc etc, so the chances of finding someone i like and that he also likes me are quite miniscule, and if i ever find something like that a vagoo wouldnt be an issue.
Though like i said chances are low so i dont expect it.

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One day.

>>7777132
I actually have a lot of the same feelings but I'm a femmy guy in general. I wouldn't do it though, you lose a lot of sensation and vaginoplasties are somewhat less than satisfactory if you really want a functional vagina

>>7777532
>functional vagina
No really i dont particularly mind, as long as it is a vagina looking hole that still has a lot of nerves from the penis skin and still have a prostate i am happy.

I actually find it way better than vaginas that bleed and make babies, it is purely practical now.

Unless science moves that far that you can grow vaginas from skin cells but still there would need to find a way to stop estrogen production since as a vagentleman you need testosterone. Luckily patches are a thing these days

>>7777548
Functional as in you can easily put stuff in there

>>7777613
Oh yeah, srs vagina seem to be pretty easy to penetrate. Though the dilation is a small annoying part of it

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>>7777181
>This is not about something sexual
>"I want a vagina for personal reasons only"

>>7777728
>People want to change their genders for sexual reasons lul

>>7777750
Did the OP say they want to change their gender? Must've missed that part.

>>7777753
>gender dysphoria is totally different from genital dysphoria

>>7777760
It really is when the only goal is to change your genitals, yet not transition in any way.

>>7777765
>only binary mtf, and ftm are allowed to feel bad and take that bad feeling seriously, everything else is a fetish.

>>7777777
Nice get.

And yes it is a fetish.

There are no "non-binary" genders unless you count the mutations of XX and XY.

>>7777777
AGP included of course.

Look up genital dysmorphia, maybe that'll help you find answers?

>>7777777
Enbies btfo forever

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>>7777777
There is no hope left for us

>>7777801
>Follow the choose a method

nigga wat

>>7777832
Off yourself, faggot.

>>7777777
Holy shit, a post that deserved this.

You are 100% right, sadly you are beyond your time, most normalfags here dont have the intelligence to accept anything unless someone has a written a book about it and confirmed it, because transgender books where since 0

>>7777809
>Enbies
???

>>7777777
YASSSSSSSS

>>7777796
From a pure science standpoint even then there is only male and female

Anything with a Y chromosome is considered male, anything without one is considered female.

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>>7777992
from a pure logic standpoint we're strings of fucking energy in a shifting and colorful void

>>7778006
Oh, yea, feel free to look at it however you want, just sharing some info about it because I find it interesting.

>>7778010
it's a scientific fact that pure science will kill you at a concentration of .02 ppm which is why everybody at the LHC has to wear a breath mask

>>7778006
>strings of fucking energy
>strings
no

>>7778036
fine, loops

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>>7777992
>muh male
>muh female
SPOOKS

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>>7778044
???

>>7777777
lol slay

>>7777777
Based progressive cuntman BTFO everyone.

>>7777777
whoah

based cuntboi

>>7777796
>There are no "non-binary" genders
You mean no non-binary sexes
Two seperate terms.

>>7777777
this board is a cesspool that needs to be wiped off the face of the earth

you are literally delusional if you think there's more than two genders

off yourselves already

i mean, buck angel exists. if you feel strongly enought that youd be more comfortable with a vagina then i say go for it

>>7778890
Buck angel is an ftm though, im born male so i would need to go through genital change surgery.

Question, i know ftm clitoris becomes big when they take testosterone, i doubt the same happens with neo vagina's clitoris? I doubt it but just asking because i am unsure

>>7778904
no neoclit is already engorged/went through that change. cant happen again

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>>7778815
Awww did the brain dead normalfag get triggered because his lack of control lead him into creating a really close minded world view instead of being flexible and now anything outside of your limited ignorant mind is seen as bad by your autsim? ;^)

Sorry m8, vagenetlemen are seeing in increasing numbers, sooner or later there will be an official name and recognition like most things, especially now that transhumanism is close and people are masters of their bodies instead of slaves like you xD

>>7778873
>>7778925
You ban evading there?

>>7778918
Ah great to hear, btw any idea if therapists can approve you for srs as someone who just has genital dyspohria and doesnt want to change gender?

I heard from one source that the requirements are possible since my gender remains male so the hormones/time living as doesnt affect me since i already do that.

Legally speaking, i know many surgeons wouldnt accept doing the surgery but i am mainly interested in knowing if it is possible to go through the legal channels if i get 2 therapists to realize this is an important issue and not some silly fetish.

>>7778938
I doubt it's gonna work, you would need like the most shady shrink, but even then the surgeon doesn't have to approve it. definitely never stop hoping tho

>>7778950
Yeah i know many therapists wont understand and just avoid it etc, but i am sure i can find a few open minded enough ones, after i got the letters only thing i need is a surgeon that will approve be ok with doing the operation.

I would like to avoid more shady stuff like certain places in thailands but i wont outright ignore them, i will be doing that in some way or other, though i have to be careful about results etc

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>>7777777
include me in the screencap

>>7777777
Is it me or there are more and more people who want to be cuntboys? I feel like i see it more often these days.

>>7778815
>you are literally delusional if you think there's more than two genders
You mean Sexes. There are two sexes, outside of intersex people.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-for-someone-with-serious-genital-dysphoria-but-not-as-much-gender-dysphoria-to-go-for-Sex-Reassignment-Surgery-but-not-living-full-time-as-the-opposite-gender-HRT-depends

This seems useful

>>7777777
YASSSS QUENN SLAYYYYYYY

>>7777132
Anon I wanted to have a pussy and still be a boy too, also it doesn't help that I'm mostly attracted to FtM.

They hate cis people and if I ever told one of them I wanted to be like them they would have an aneurism from rage.

I honestly never thought I would see another gay anon that wanted to be like a FtM too.

>>7780107
Depends on the ftm desu
I wouldn't get mad at that honestly and while I don't completely understand personally bc >benis but it's only natural to be curious about what you don't have?
I've been around other amab male-attracted people who are femme or go by one of those non-binary things like demiboy or whatever and boy howdy they've treated me like shit and don't consider me a guy so it's just a thought

t. gay ftm who doesn't hate cis people who aren't stupid

>>7780327
>>7780107

Just as a follow-up
I've always wanted to be with another bear but I've been reluctant to even try with cis gay guys since literally every experience I've had has been total shit

Lmfao I guess I'll just jack off forever

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>>7777796
>There are no "non-binary" genders [sexes]
>unless you count the mutations of XX and XY.
So AIS people aren't women? Because, if they are, biological sex is like levels of sex hormones – a spectrum.

While you are engaged in spreading opressive trans fallacies, I wonder what is your motivation to do so. Why are you so invested in enforcing castration to every trans woman and cuting off breasts to every trans man? Do you hate LGBT people? Do you hate sexuality?

>>7779040
You look pretty.

>>7777992
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190741/

>>7780504
>The extraordinary case of a fertile woman with normal ovaries and a predominantly 46,XY ovarian karyotype, who gave birth to a 46,XY female with complete gonadal dysgenesis.
>Suggests a mutation in a novel sex-determination gene.
Humans with bird sex chromosomes when?

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>>7777777

>>7777777
>Seventh Heaven get wasted on non-binary faggotry

>>7781032
binary sex is a relict of the barbaric 21st century
abandoned post-WW3

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>>7777777
DELET THIS YOU NIGGER

>>7781291
Moot took away the ability to delete posts. Unannounced and for unrevealed reasons.

>>7781320
We must start a new 4chan... before moot further destroys what's left of it.

>>7781471
:^)

>>7780107
Yeah i on the other hand for whatever reason am attracted to chubby bara men while wanting to be a vagentleman.

>>7781291
Truth hurts i get ;^)

>>7777132
There is a guy on Xtube who is the same way. His old channel was ManginaMan, but he changed the name or something.

>>7781998
Nah the mangina man is either a fetishist or someone really unstable.

He thought he was an mtf and that is how he got a vagina, then he decided he didnt like being a woman and started working out to be manly looking and then became a literal prostitute using his vagina to define himself and fuck everyone demanding only the "best penis" to fuck him

Then he gets weird feelings and deletes, leaves and closes stuff he is into.

I wouldnt consider him a mentally stable example of a cuntbman desu

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>>7777777
Those are some really nice digits.

>>7782156
Anon that is wrong pic, we are talking about vagina men now

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>>7777777
Non-binaries confirmed real. Kek wills it. /polgbt/ on suicide watch as of now.

>>7781992
Marry me.
Let's have a get marriage.

>>7777777
Best post best digits

>>7777777
You boss

>>7783878
>telling someone who has a vagina that he is "boss"
Beta cuck

>>7777777
WE HAVE A WINNER

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>>7784858

I know people who got the srs done without lying about being trans, instead they were honest and said they were non binary, if the therapist isn't some close minded faggot in some shithold and is a progressive gender therapist they understand and do support you and allow you to do the surgery.

Don't try Thailand

>>7784965
But there aren't that many good surgeons outside of Thailand....

>>7785013
I meant the illegal part of Thailand

>>7784948
I had the displeasure of having an one night with a girl that juiced a lot.
Testosterone is just not for me in a girl, her clit was 10 times the size of what I expected and she smelled weird.

The only nice thing was how she was manhandling me, one thing I never really experienced with my previous gf.

Not that I want anything like that though I'm happily in a LTR with an older girl and I'm super happy with it.

>inb4 mommy issues.

>>7785061
Fair.

>>7785061
mommy issues

>>7782003
I didn't know any of that. I read on his channel that he didn't want to transition and "threw out [his] wig" right after SRS. Where did you read about what you're saying? A perspective I did not know about.

>>7784948
I'm so down with this chick, whoever she is

>>7785061
She smelled like her body was metabolizing testosterone, so like a man. Her downstairs would probably smell metallic and masculine, like semen.

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>>7787714
Some trans people knew about him and there was also a big article one him somewhere, he wasnt going to be a mangina man, he literally thought he was a woman and went on with the operation, that is how he got it.
Then he decided against it sometime after the operation so it wasnt something he planned.

Then he started obsessing with fitness and being a "mangina" man so much his entire identity revolved around that so he made up the whole thing that he was a mangina man from start. in his porn channel he even said he would only be fucked by the biggest and best penises

Later on he disappeared for a while, in his yahoo group someone who knew him told us he had some issue and went to the hospital, i am not sure if it was attempted suicide, cant remember but it wasnt something normal, he kept seeing a therapist but didnt help

He kept being weird on the forums and sometime later he just deleted everything he had, the forums, the porn channel etc.

He is definitely not a stable individual

Luckily these days if you find a gender therapist that is progressive and accepts non binary you can get access to the surgery if you are honest and show them that your dick truly is an issue

>>7777132
What is in those syringes?

>>7787801
caramel

>>7787743
Thanks

>>7779140
Going off this, OP (if you're still here):

I'd imagine being honest with therapists and doctors wouldn't work. You'd have to lie to their face to get them to do this. But I'm thinking, since the effect of HRT for MtF's are mostly reversible, can't you just pretend to be MtF and go on hormones for a while to appear more palatable to surgeons? If they think you're a transwoman, a genuine one, then they'd have no reason to deny you. Right after SRS you could just stop taking HRT and let the effects reverse themselves. Then, once you go back to living as a man, you could be a real cuntboi. You'd probably have to actually take the hormones because an endo would be checking your hormone levels and whatnot and if you still had the same hormone levels of a man then it would raise some flags.

What about this, OP?

>>7787803
My first guess was soda. I thought it was one of those bullshit Coca-Cola flavored ices like Burger King has.

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>>7788058
Yeah i know about that way but i dislike the idea, but i learned recently that you can pass by as non binary and get the surgery.
I ve talked with someone who did this, you dont need to pretend to be trans to get the surgery, if you have a real issue genital dysphria and some small gender confusion progressive gender therapists support non binary people and have allowed some for the surgery, you dont have to be binary according to the trans standards of cares to get srs and if you are approved you dont have problem finding a surgeon.
And that way you dont need to pretend, lie or take wrong hormones.

That just means finding a good gender therapist in a big city and not in some nowheresville and you dont have to worry about it.

I actually intend to do this in the near future, the issue is finding a place to first in Europe since i am from eastern Europe so not the best gender doctors around here, i know in US is way easier to find a good gender therapist but it is US after all.

>>7777132
That's something else for sure. I've always held the view that you should live for loving yourself and if that's what'd make you feel best go for it.

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>>7777777
BASED VAGENTLEMAN BTFOing cis scum!

:o