The whole problem with the AGP debate is that you aren't

It sounds even more stupid when you know those things. Stop posting this cancer.

>>7727116
i only want to be a teen though.

>>7727419
Autoephebopilia?

>>7727366
No it doesn't.

>>7727431
No it's not a philia, everyone over 25 would rather be younger, especially transexuals to relive their childhood.

It's a normal human feeling to feel like time is moving too fast.

>>7727431
But it does. The fact that this shit BTFOs "AGP" crap was literally my first thought when I heard that pedos tend to eroticize themselves as children. The more examples you find of non-trans people experiencing autoerotic attraction, the more obvious it is that isn't weird.

I didn't even comment on the fact that you actually SEXUALIZED trans people feeling they missed out on a normal childhood in the OP. That's goddamn disgusting of you. The idea that you'd sexualize how I feel about my childhood is genuinely offensive in a way that few other things are.

You're cancer, stop shitting up the board.

>>7727743
>trans people feeling they missed out on a normal childhood in the OP
How did OP do this, except where it actually fitted?

>>7727791
>How did OP do this, except where it actually fitted?
>"waah, I wish I had the experience of being a little girl"
>autopedophilic
>Literally saying trans people who mourn a missed childhood are "autopedos"

>where it actually fitted
What the fuck does it "fit"?
Are you retarded?

>>7727743
>The more examples you find of non-trans people experiencing autoerotic attraction, the more obvious it is that isn't weird
ah, but you're working under the assumption a*p is 'weird'
>>7727854
4/10 strawman, try better next time
i have an ex who's actually aap, autoephebophilic, and autozoophilic in addition to having all those as sexual orientations directed at others -- it is a very, very different thing to just wanting to be young again

>>7727116
>(Now think about how many of the trannies who are like "waah, I wish I had the experience of being a little girl" are autopedophilic.)

Wanting to have been born normal is not a pedophile fetish, you fucking retard. Its "My life has been a living hell and I hate it. I wish I had been born normal, but life fucked me instead."

AGP: Some faggoty fetish where a dude thinks being a chick is sexually arousing, therefore engages in fetishistic behavior (ie: crossdressing) for the purpose of getting sexual gratification. Nothing more, nothing less. AGPs are not trans. Any trans person who has AGP is not trans, they are just a fetishist who should seek alternative psychiatric help, not transition. These are the people who inevitably (a) detransition later on, or (b) commit suicide even after SRS.

Trans: Actual transsexuals do not get sexually aroused or excited by transition, wearing the clothes of the opposite sex or taking on any societal typical role of their gender identity. They simply "I identify and should have been born as X instead of Y, therefore I will medically and socially alter myself accordingly and live as X."

Blanchard is a retard and this /lgbt/ 'everything is AGP' meme is retarded too.

>>7729592
Your ex is retarded, just like you are. A fetish is not a sexual orientation.

AGP/AAP/A*P anything IS weird. Its not normal to steal your wife's pantyhose, put them on jack off like a faggot to sissy porn. This is weird, period. Wanting to fuck kids is weird. Wanting to dress up like an animal and fuck animals is weird.

Hell, legitimate transsexualism is weird. Its a disorder, but medically valid. Stop trying to justify your retarded fetishes by hijacking a medical condition.

>>7731509
you know i'm blanchardian anon (and hsts), right? i can be confident i've looked into the topic more than you have
working under the assumption that a*p is 'weird/illegitimate/non-trutrans' is why /tttt/ hasn't yet ascended to blanchardianism

>>7731514
Blanchard is hack who has been debunked as such. You're retarded.

"Weird" does not equate "Illegitimate". Weird is simply weird. It is weird, period. That's just fact. Your deviancy from the established societal norms is weird, get over it. Too bad. Stop trying to latch on to actual medical disorders to make your degeneracy feel less degenerate.

>>7731523
i just explained how i have the 'actual medical disorder', in that i do not experience aap
blanchard being debunked is a meme spread by people who think what conway-james-mccloskey did is debunking, if they're even close enough to the source to have heard of that in the first place, and never bothered to delve further or read guillamon or nuttbrock (one of blanchard's opponents, natch)

Men in general can attain a fetish when it exaggerates weakness in something.

>>7731677
>when it exaggerates a weakness in something
AGP exploits all of my weaknesses. I'm not physically strong, I'm not charismatic, I'm not exceptionally intelligent, and I have no patience to improve any of these things. I'm enabling it by basically just existing and staying skinny.

>>7727116
It sounded stupid before, still sounds stupid.

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>>7727116
I don't buy into almost precisely because it's outlined like some kind of equation. That's not how the messy nasty human brain works. There's so many factors that could make a person "AGP", so many different definitions of what is "AGP" and such a lack of hard data in the field that any broad statements like this no matter how pleasantly logical at first glace; have to be discarded.

So it still sounds dumb

>>7729592
>ah, but you're working under the assumption a*p is 'weird'
How can you possibly think that? That's contrary to my point. It's normal in small amounts (compared to innumerable other sexual interests) and you don't need a name for it. If you WANT to name it because it's a more-than-incidental part of your sexuality, go for it. But you don't need to MEDICALLY categorize other people for it.

>it is a very, very different thing to just wanting to be young again
Yes. Yes, you got it. Wanting to be young again isn't pedophila (auto or otherwise). Wishing you had a non-shitty childhood isn't pedophilia.

Don't you ever call other trans people pedos sans evidence ever again. We get ENOUGH people thinking we're "sexual deviants" without our own adding half-brained shit to the pile.

>>7735019
>Don't you ever call other trans people pedos sans evidence ever again
...huh?
i'm calling my ex an ephebophile because we got together when i was 14 and she was 25

>>7731523
>Stop trying to latch on to actual medical disorders to make your degeneracy feel less degenerate.
You mean like you do when you appropriate AGP experiences like feeling like a woman in a man's body in order to push out the AGP meme yourself into being "trutrans"?

>>7735214
I realize I took a while to reply, but did you really get this lost?

OP:
>(Now think about how many of the trannies who are like "waah, I wish I had the experience of being a little girl" are autopedophilic.)

Me: Don't sexualize how trans people feel about their childhoods.

(Presumably) You: But what about where it fits?

Me: It doesn't fit anywhere. Mourning your missed childhood isn't fucking pedophilia.

You: BTW, my ex is a creep and this is relevant, haha.

Me: Don't you fucking associate that shit with trans people unless you know they're actually pedophiles.

You: WhAts tHe pRobLeM?! SHe WAS LOLOLOLOL.


Just quit now. Please.

>>7735475
>(Presumably) You: But what about where it fits?
>Me: It doesn't fit anywhere. Mourning your missed childhood isn't fucking pedophilia.
i think this is where you went wrong, i don't think that presumably was me
might have been, but that doesn't sound like something i'd say in this thread
i'd go more 'well the op is wrong about the specific context which invalidates the argument you've been making but if you're going to argue that there are no ageplayers and that there isn't an overlap between ageplayers and a*ps, i'm not sure where you're coming from'