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Is it true that all cis males secretly hate being men and wish

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Is it true that all cis males secretly hate being men and wish they were girls, and the only reason they don't transition is because:

1: They would end up scary masculine hons and never be accepted as a girl, only ridiculed.

2: Their attraction to girls overrides their secret desire to be girls, and manning up is how you get girls, while it's harder to get ass as a feminine male/transbian.
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>>7722146
no that is rubbish

not even entertaining rubbish, just boring obvious rubbish

sage
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No. Not even when I was a kid and still thought girls were equal to men.
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>>7722146
>Their attraction to girls overrides their secret desire to be girls, and manning up is how you get girls
top kek

Am I the only one smelling the scent... of a repressed tranny, that's digging deeper into denial as possible?
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>>7722146
Yes, if transition were perfect upward of 95% of people would be female. Femininity is natural, and masculinity is simply forced behavior.
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>>7722200
>Not even when I was a kid and still thought girls were equal to men.
kek
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>>7722146
yes, exactly
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>>7722146
It's just kind of a joke. Like everyone has heard the trope of "if I became a girl I'd just masturbate 24/7" it doesn't mean they actually want to be a girl.
Normally people don't think about their gender that much though, it's just not something that ever really comes to mind.
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>>7722443
Men do tell themselves women have it worse for silly reasons, and women buy it too because men say it.
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>>7722146
>trade cock for vagina
>trade something for nothing

no thanks
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>>7722499
kek >>7722465
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>>7722146
>cis means you're attracted to women
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>>7722465
This. It's a defense mechanism. If they allowed themselves to acknowledge it, they would break down sobbing.
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>>7722634
The horrible thing is they probably would be happy as guys if they were allowed to critique society when it harms them and to not be on the defense all the time around women and other men.
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>>7722661
Their issue is with a sadistic god who would create males in the first place. No amount of fixing society will help the existential shittiness of being male.
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>>7722634
>projecting this hard

only women sob
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>>7722694
>that self-enforcing slave mentality
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Is it true that all cis females secretly hate being women and wish they were boys?
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>>7722790
HAHAHAHA!
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>>7722749

make me a sandwich
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>>7722830
being a girl is this easy
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literally the only part about being a guy I don't like is having to initiate relationships. other than that, friendo you're on drugs
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>>7722790
Reminder that it was a Jew (Freud) who came up with the lie of penis envy. The truth is that men have womb envy.
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>>7722872

yeah, i wish i could bleed every month for 5 days.
i'm really missing out!
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>>7722914
You also can't create life, and you have to suffer having a penis.
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>>7722914
Your posts are only proving my point about the male defense mechanism.

>muh dick
>muh sammich
>muh make everything seem like i don't take anything to seriously, breh
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>>7722146
I'm not ambitious or competitive, so yeah I think I would be ok with it, but only as a real woman.
I would love to have kids.
Clean and maintain a household.
Raise children and have a husband that was the bread winner so I would not have to deal with people outside of my person circles.
I love to cook and I wish it was something I had more time for but work schedule is not good for it.
I like to workout and stay fit so I would not have a problem staying as pretty as genetically possible for my husbando.
The housewife life would be good for me. To bad I am a male.
Also I am probably autistic and that is why this seems so nice.

No normal men do not want this.
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>>7722872
>The truth is that men have womb envy.
idk about womb envy, more like taking dick envy.
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>>7722920
>can't create life
>says the neutered tranny

my dick literally shoots out life at least 3 times a day.
it is hardly suffering.
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>>7722146

I think anyone would be a young woman but the problem is women age poorly so once they get past their early-mid thirties their inherent value declines with their looks. Sad but true. I would hate having to spend my 20's feeling pressure to find a husband. As a guy I feel like I get better looking as I age and that is a huge, if not THE benefit of being a man.
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>>7722337
Wtf is this shit you be spouting
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>>7722146
I have AGP but I see being female as a social downgrade because I pretty much enjoy exclusively manly hobbies and I value male company more for reasons of their intelligence when it comes to things like engineering.

Even if I were able to transition into a perfectly passing girl right now I'd still be doubtful that I would want to do that because estrogen is scary, I'd get excluded from male company, and getting older would mean losing most of the self-attraction that I would have as a result of AGP.

With all that said I only self-insert as the girl in porn and I've always done so; cuck porn makes me laugh at the cuck because I see myself as the woman. I wanted to start transitioning when I was twelve but my abusive stepfather literally beat me up, I lived in a poor country where kids don't get to have their own money and mother said she would disown me. I gradually turned bear mode by the time I was 18 so I abandoned the thought, but I studied female societies online a lot and pretended to be a woman online for several years when you could still get away with it. Yes, it's very nice to be accepted by women even if online, but it's just kind of useless when like 1% of women even care about the things you feel most passionately about.
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>>7722146
Masc bodied 32 y/o AGP non transitioner here, both these reasons are why i'm still a male.

>>7723417
That's another reason, even if I passed, I'd be getting in on the woman game at the worst time. I'd also be extremly masc and large, so quite unattractive and that's only after FFS and laser/electrolysis, which I can't afford on my retail wages. Plus I'm a transbian/chaser anyways I really wish I could be androphilic but i'm not. The potential relationship benefits of being a young attractive woman only apply to straight women.

>>7723706
What's weird is being an untreated AGP and gynephilic, has actually caused me to be a little more socially comfortable being around women, I can empathize with them sometimes. I can relate to dudes better though definitely. I still enjoy nerdy male shit like vidya games, but I like some femme shit on the downlow like MLP and pop music. I would of been shopping in the womens section a long time ago if I could get away with it. I still "perform masculinity" so I don't come off as a numale cuck, such is life.

I'm both intrigued and scared by estrogen. I don't want to give up the physical benefits of test and some of the supposed mental traits of test seem more practical, being a masc bodied non transitioner. Now maybe estrogen would feel wonderful and I'd be happier as a masc femboy, but it might cause it's own psychological issues. I don't feel like taking a chance on it since the neurological aspects are poorly researched. I turned to weed to manage my dysphoria and it really helped me through it. So THC + test works for me.

Can't imagine the agony you felt, I grew up in Canada, but a very homo/trans phobic version of it that is rapidly fading. Transgenderism was an esoteric thing that people didn't know much about. So AGP kids didn't get what they were and no one ever told them what they could become and that it's ok to feel as they do. This made repression so much easier.
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>>7723706
>turned bear mode by the time I was 18

why are the hairiest men ALWAYS agp?
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>>7724404
I wasn't bearmode at 18, but at 32 I sure as hell am.
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>>7724372
>I still "perform masculinity" so I don't come off as a numale cuck, such is life.
What masculinity do you perform?
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>>7724470
Dress like a man and try not to seem too feminine, faggy or weak. I naturally am the strong silent type, so I just roll with that. Of course I have no idea if that's really me or a persona I've crafted over the years.
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>>7724577
>Of course I have no idea if that's really me or a persona I've crafted over the years.
This is what makes me most sad about repressing.
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>>7722146
>implying all cis males are attracted to the inferior gender
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>>7722573
>>7727647
That's not what the OP implies. The cis guys who aren't fall in group 1.
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>>7723417
i mean, men age poorly once they get past their early-mid twenties so i'm not sure you can really use that example
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