Cis Lesgen

>>7715451
>tfw my friend talked me into getting a fetlife
Is this good for some fun girl lovings? I've done a quick skim of a few cities near me, and some bigger cities, but I'm not finding a lot of lesbians on there, much less any cute ones.

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I got myself a Filmstruck account so there's no real reason to leave the house anymore, especially when it's cold as fuck outside.

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>>7715451
>tfw no loli gf

>>7715580
me on the right

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>>7715477
I can't speak for everyone but I've made some really great friends on fetlife over the years and even met my domme there, so don't give up Anon.

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2017 GF Count: 1

>>7715451
>How are you gonna get through the rest of this week?
I don't know. I seem to be getting progressively sicker (at least it's not the flu) and I have to get on a plane at some point. I didn't even get an aisle seat. Had plans for meeting up with friends on arrival but I might have to cancel due to being a walking biohazard.

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>>7715580
>tfw no 1000 years old T H I C C loli gf

>woman finds nudes and almost gets off to them until she realizes they're hers
I didn't pay much attention to the last thread but how even? I'm pretty confident I could single out my boobs among a hundred pairs.

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Can't wait until we can eliminate the lesser gender.

>>7715688
How different does it feel to kiss a black woman or have her go down on you?

>>7715805
Nah, I'd lose all my closest friends, fuck off.

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>>7715746
I masturbate to pictures of myself sometimes. I don't think it's that weird and probably more people do it than are willing to admit.

>>7715872
Yeah, sometimes I masturbate to videos of me masturbating.

>>7715872
I couldn't do that. Sometimes I look at myself after a shower and think I'm looking good (or in the shower even, although rarely during masturbation) but I wouldn't say it turns me on. Not because I dislike how I look or anything, just because I'm me.

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>>7715805

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Reminder that you're only a trulesbian if you're willing to save women by killing off the y chromosome

>>7715863
Nah, all brainwashed apologists are dying with em. You sure chose the right side lmao bye!

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>>7715863
>having male friends
You know they think about raping you, right?

>>7715946
C'mon at least get some new material, you're just repeating the same tired old shit with the same old pictures.

>>7715949
Fuck off back to your fever dreams madotsuki.

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>>7715946
>you can only love women if you are a mass murderer

/pol/tards want you to believe this

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>>7715949
>they think about raping you

men can't think about anything else.
the only solution is to make yourself as hideous as possible so that they lose their erections and can't complete the act.

Someone want to play cute girls killing each other off with me?

>>7715975
I see what you did there

>>7715975
>not just aggressively shitting yourself as soon as a man touches you inappropriately to scare him off
Learn from the sea cucumber

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>>7715970
Try making sense when you type. You just embarrassed yourself.

>>7715975
The y chromosome doesn't care how uggo someone is. They will assault anyone that gives them an ounce of trust. It's like ingrained in them to be monsters.

>>7715968
>stop telling the truth it's getting old
Male detected.

>>7715979
I wish I could laugh because it's ridiculous but guess who accounts for all the scat fetish in the world...

>>7715979
>sea cucumber
Ejecting one's internal organs is not a recommended course of action for humans, as we do not grow them back.

>>7715990
>Try making sense when you type. You just embarrassed yourself.
But anon, that post made perfect sense.

>>7715990
Yeah, nah. Men can make good friends.

>>7715990
>Male detected.
See? Like that. Your bag of tricks is pathetically small. If you're going to shitpost, at least make it interesting.

>>7716009
t. male rapist

>>7716014
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/men-and-women-cant-be-just-friends/

>>7716005
So /pol/ believes lesbians need to support the holocaust? Because recognize we're lesbians, not straight males.

>>7715998
>we do not grow them back.

prolapse is not abandonment

>>7716026
I've known my male group of friends for fourteen years. We met in fucking kindergarten, some of them. The rest first grade.

>>7716026
>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/men-and-women-cant-be-just-friends/
>heterosexual men and women
>heterosexual
You appear to be lost.

>>7716059
I met mine later, but have known them for near twenty now. Good bunch of dudes.

>>7716059
I'm sorry anon that it's difficult for you to understand that they have imagined what it's like to fuck you. They keep this underlying hope that maybe something more will come of it someday. At least if they're single.

>>7716067
You really think that heterosexual men see you as any different than a heterosexual woman? To them you're still a woman, and thus they treat you as a woman and nurture the idea that if they're nice enough to you you'll want to fuck em. See how women in the article expected that because they weren't attracted to the man that they would also be unattractive to the woman? That's never the case. He's gonna be attracted to you whether you're gay or not.

>>7716055
If we're using sea cucumbers as a model, permanently expelling your lungs would be a closer equivalent.

>>7716059
>>7716067
I was the only girl in my university class, well most of the time anyway. We shared some modules with other courses, like Cretive Writing and Media Analysis. Most of the dudes became regular friends and two of them bothered to visit me after I moved to Germany.

>>7716088
>>7716059
>>7716067
http://www.returnofkings.com/22816/how-to-seduce-a-lesbian-as-a-straight-man

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How do I stop staring at qts at the gym?

>>7716082
They're fucking family.

>>7716099
I do doubt the motivations of men I've just met, but don't be retarded. If that's your line of reasoning, you don't doubt lesbians you've just met because they might just be trying to fuck you and won't value your friendship or personality?

>>7716103
Karlie Kloss? Good taste. If you're qt I would be thrilled if I was checked out at the gym.

>>7716112
Women are a completely different matter. Once a guy catches the feels he starts becoming scary. Like they can't get it through their head that just because you are nice to them doesn't mean you want to be involved with them. Why are you so bothered by this? It's been a staple of /clg/ since the start. Why do you take it so personally? Men are trash. That's the truth. You need to run back to tumblr, newfa, if you don't even know this much.

>>7716084
>permanently

no, else they would suffocate
learn2biology

>>7716082
You appear to have forgotten about the existence of gay and asexual men.
Even with heteros you can fucking talk to them and figure that shit out with the right ones, especially once they grow up a bit. It's possible for a dude to acknowledge you're hot without becoming a creepy beta orbiter.

>>7716088
>Most of the dudes became regular friends and two of them bothered to visit me after I moved to Germany.
A couple of mine visited me when I was living abroad, and I have returned the favor. Good excuse to take a vacation.

>>7716099
>returnofkings
lmao, into the trash it goes

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>Recently got out of long relationship and in no interest on starting another one
>Friend who isn't even gay (or at least says she isn't) sends me yuri all the time I guess to tease me
>if anything it just pisses me off
>have to fake an 'omg so lewd' each time

Why are people like this

I don't think sending the person you like porn is the best way to go about business, but what do I know.

>>7716134
Yes, permanently. They grow them back.
But FINE, one lung instead of both lungs.

>>7716167
>asexuality
>real
The gay men on this board are free to hate women. But lesbians are not free to do the same? You must be a y chromosome. Women make better friends in any case.

>return of kings
Never forget that males think this way. Many lesbians I know were raped by the men they knew for years as friends. Don't cry here despite the warnings.

>>7716186
Tell her to stop then?
I have straight friends who link me to yuri, but it's just an exchange of info, not some kind of game. Like "hey have you seen this?".

>>7716211
>denying asexuality
>basing your idea of gay men off what you see here
>accusing me of being male, again
Keep it up champ.

>Women make better friends in any case.
Do you have any? Or is this idea also based on shit you've read online?

Is it dyke-ish to use a wallet instead of a purse? Wallets just seem so comfy and easy, and purses are the totally opposite of that but I don't want to look too much like a dyke.

>>7716255
>since I have a low sex drive I must have no sexuality
There is asexual reproduction. There is no asexuality. You can't have a sexuality that's attracted to nobody. That defeats the purpose of sexual orientations.

I know plenty of gay men irl. They have nothing to do with me and I have nothing to do with them. I'm saying get rid of cockroaches. And you're crying about your pet cockroach.

>>7715688
Congrats senpai. She's pretty.

>>7716326
I don't think so? I'm pretty femme and I use a wallet like 75% of the time. If I go to the club or something, I use a small, over the shoulder pouch/purse. It's almost unnoticeable.

>>7716344
So you want them to call it something different? Who the fuck cares?

A telling non-response.

>>7716396
Yeah it's called having a low fucking libido. Asexuality is not real.

>>7716417
OK you're just being retarded as usual, I give up.

>>7716326
I use a small leather wallet and I've never had anyone comment on it except one straight friend of mine who asked why I didn't have a bigger one. I way prefer to just carry a wallet and phone in my pockets than a whole bag. I'll do it if I'm dressing up, but not if I'm just going to the shops or something.

>>7716468
Kek sjw btfo

>>7715688
Good job anon

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>>7715451
>A war wages over the ultimate question - "Is Kstew cute?"

How can there even be a debate?

>>7716468
I agree though, lack of sexual attraction is a sign of illness, but in the case of most tumblrites I believe it's genuine delusion.

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>>7715688
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>>7716562
>thumbnail
Anyway, this /pol/v/ meme has went too far. I don't really like Karen but this still makes me mad. Delete.

>>7716528
Tumblrites aren't real people, they don't count.

Sure, in some cases a lack of sexual attraction is a sign of illness, but when an individual has been tested and there's no sign of any problems?

I think the important question is why would one NOT accept asexuality as a thing? It's not like it's any skin off my back.

>>7716735
Show me some cases of people physically and mentally tested for illnesses regarding lack of sexual attraction.

>>7716762
Don't have any, only anecdotes. I really think the last question is the most important. Why would it be a problem to accept it?

>>7716799
I don't have a problem accepting it, that's why I asked for evidence. If there is none I really can't accept it.

Any girls from Western Canada? Alberta!

>>7716735
>why would one NOT accept asexuality as a thing?
The truth matters, and most "asexuals" are actually kinky sluts.

>>7716799
I accept asexuals as much as sapiosexual or any other sexuality popular among millenials on tumblr. They can call themselves what they wish. Doesn't mean I believe it.

How do I get new gay qt girl friends that could possibly be interested in me, my friends are boring and never go out, walking up to a girl I have no connection to is scary + I look too gay so she'll instantly take me as a predatory dyke

>>7716810
I'm asking whether evidence is important. It's not harming anyone except potentially the individual themselves and if they're a fully-functioning adult I think that's their business.

>>7716864
>millenials
Is there anyone ITT who isn't a millenial?

>>7716895
>evidence? don't be a bigot!
>the truth isn't important, just be nice!

kys tbqh famalam

>>7716895
Well, the point here is that I don't believe "pure" asexuality is real so I'm asking for evidence. I don't care it doesn't harm anyone, that has nothing to do with it.

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Heterosexual men, bisexual men, homosexual men, etc. They must all die, so that this world may be purified

>>7717028
>kill all men
>men made yuru yuri commercially successful
nice

>>7716950
>that has nothing to do with it.
It does. If there are potential consequences for believing something without evidence, then it's definitely important to demand proof. But I can't see any harm in giving asexuals the benefit of the doubt.

>>7716928
Do you realize how hypocritical that sounds?
Science used to think lesbianism was a mental illness.

Why is it so hard to believe that someone is attracted to no one?

>>7717111
It's not hard to believe, but it's highly unusual and probably some kind of disorder.

>>7717111
Every "asexual" I ever met VERY obviously was sexually attracted to people. Most of them are STRAIGHT white chicks in college wanting to ride the coattails of LGBT and be special snowflakes. Ironically they also tend to be SLUTS.

>>7717045
I do not even see yuru yuri, the image is a reference, idiot

>>7717152
>I do not even see yuru yuri
Anon you're supposed to make that joke about Akari, not the entire show.

>>7717149
there's absolutely nothing wrong with being a slut

>>7717208
No one said there was. It is however mutually exclusive from being asexual

>>7717149
If they're clearly flat-out lying to you, why would you assume they represent a sample worth drawing conclusions from?

am I still lesbian of i like the idea of dick in a purely sexual context but would never date a man because they're gross and have only ever had feelings for women?
>inb4 "fuck off biscum"
>inb4 someone says "fuck off biscum" because I inb4'd it

Hey, I am have been wondering why cis lesbians so adamantly deny the existence of female privilege? Like of the LGBT lesbians are obviously the most privileged and that is solely do to gender, so why deny female privilege?

>>7717260
I've never heard anyone say gay men or trannies need to be raped straight

>>7717248
>am I lesbian if I experience sexual attraction to both sexes
No you're obviously not. But you are, however, a retard. Now fuck off bishit.

>>7717260
>privilege
There are advantages to being a pretty female. There are advantages to being a male. There are disadvantages to both. Homeless women have more programs to assist them = having no disadvantages or problems is what men tend to think. If seeing that both sexes are subject to disadvantages and advantages is denial...

>>7717248
>am i still lesbian if I like dick that's not silicone
Take a fucking guess

What do y'all think of AAP lesbians?

>>7717319
>>7717304
desu I'm just into the tranner menace, if that makes it any better

>>7717292
Oh were you or anyone you know subjected to corrective rape? I know plenty of gay and trans people who have faced a lot of violence. Also gay bashing\murders are worst than corrective rape, thinking any differently is female privilege.

>>7717304
So would you also say there is no male privilege?

>>7715688

Both qt, congrats.

>>7717377
It does not.

>>7717377
The bait is too weak.

>>7717392
I wouldn't define it as privilege, for one. I believe women are subject to ridiculous pressures and injustices simply by being female. I would reason that there are problems effecting the male population but they tend to be less severe in comparison. So you'd have an easier time proving male "privlege" than you would female "privlege".

>>7717392
it's been threatened to an acquaintance or two of mine
also, I'm pretty sure gay bashing/murders dont only happen to men, I've actually known more women who've been assaulted, physically and sexually, for being lesbian, than men.
and I don't even know that many women thanks to CS meme degree

>>7717439
Not that one but I believe men are also subject to harsh penalties just for being male. For example the draft, child support, little social support for personal issues, severe lack of trust (i.e. any male close a child is a pedo), prone to suffer more of severe physical violence like murder, and some other things. Maybe in Africa it's actually better if you're male, but in first world countries both sexes have about the same advantages and disadvantages. It's actually really hard to quantitatively meassure "privilege" because how do you compare, for example, being more likely to die at your job to being more likely to suffer of domestic violence? It's really apples and oranges.

>>7717481
you know those "harsh penalties" are a result of the patriarchy, which is something that men created, right? and you know these severe acts of physical violence are mostly committed by men, right?

a man is more likely to die at his job because of societal expectations for men to take on jobs that are harmful and dangerous-- societal expectations put in place because of men. it's not female privilege, and it's not women's fault. it's just men fucking things up for themselves.

>>7717481
Uh you're just repeating what I said.
The draft would only apply to a world War or some extreme conflict. It doesn't truly happen in western countries. And in a place like Israel women are drafted as well. Child support seems to be something men scream victim to. From my experience (three sisters with children and a mom who was married before) child support doesn't exist. There are a great many ways to resist child support. Owning your own business for one, going to prison, earning money under the table, simply refusing etc. All these options have been utilized by the fathers I've seen. Physical violence between men is common. Physical violence from men against women is common. Violent men are common but men are no exclusive victims. Social support is widely due to men not wanting to share their issues. This is a personal choice. The whole rhetoric of men needing to shut up their feelings is thankfully dying. Men have been convicted of child abuse, pornography, etc more than women. A man caught trying to snatch a child is daily news fodder. I would put it closer to racism in that people are afraid of darker people. People are afraid of men. Is that a lack of privlege? It's the other side of being seen as capable of damage, threat. You repeated what I said: men and women both have issues and advantages. But like I maintain - the issues faced exclusively by women out number those of first world men.

>>7717522
Yeah and I'm not arguing that since I mostly agree. Still you can't say there really is a female or male "privilege" because firstly it can't be quantitatively verified (social """sciences""" are fucked up), at least not in first world countries. And secondly because it's pretty subjective, I mean the whole privilege thing. At this point it's just a buzzword. I'm up for arguing that rich people are actually the privileged persons in society. A broke man and a broke woman can be extremely sick, yet only those who have money will be able to pay an expensive treatment regardless of their gender, if we assume this takes place in murrika or anywhere with no free healthcare of course. And I don't mean this "privilege" in a bad sense of SJW definition of privilege. If everyone could buy expensive cars and go to trips then it would no longer be a "privilege".
>inb4 capitalism is evil
I still prefer it over communism though, would rather be fucked than REALLY fucked and have everyone else around me also be extremely fucked.

Why is the stereotypical gay dude usually muscular, skinny, and dresses well while the counterpart for lesbians is ugly and tumblrina? So unfair. I joined the facebook group for the incoming freshman class of the college I'm going to, and I can tell who the obviously lesbians are based off the profile pic... none are attractive

>>7717598
because they try to make being lesbian into a political statement instead of just living
or you're in an ugly part of the country lmao

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I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH A GIRL DAMMIT

>>7717665
hi

>>7717605
i like girls but jesus i could never date a tumblrina sjw man hater. probably why all my crushes are straight girls :(
lmao i live in a major metropolitan area, but the only out girls in my school are those weird/nonbinary/genderfluid cringey tumblr emo girls

>>7717681
yea same here, maybe it's just the age range of 18-25 that is effected by the weird tumble stuff
I attempted to reconnect with a friend who has lesbo vibes in HS and they're (afab) now "grey gender"

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>>7717671
H-hey, cutie. Can I eat you out?

>>7717692
Kek, so sad.

>>7717692
What is grey gender even? Do I want to know?

>>7717713
Not male or female, I would guess. It's fucking batshit. It unironically scares me when shit like that is becoming more widely accepted. Like a nightmare where everything you thought you knew was wrong and you're the weird one. It's fucking psychotic.

I'm 100% gay and only like girls romantically/sexually but if there was a guy that really liked me, wouldn't cheat, and could make the rest of my life financially stable I wouldn't oppose marrying him. Plus I wouldn't have to come out to my family or encounter homophobes, life just seems easier being straight... should I feel bad. I feel like it's my backup plan if I don't find someone and I'm desperate.

>>7717744
If you're not gonna fuck him at least let him fuck other people, you selfish whore.

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>>7715580
That's pedophilia

>>7717744
If you're ok living your life without sex and he's fine not touching you ever. That sounds like torture worse than just being single, like making yourself trapped.

You need to think up better bait.

>>7717695
Two nukes weren't enough.

>>7717755
i just dont want to accept potentially being single/heartbroken the rest of my life
gay girls im actually attracted to are super rare, and even then they might already be taken

>>7717767
Whatever, go talk about that shit to bislut general or even better, /r/actuallesbians

>>7717735
>tfw humouring an asexual polyromantic nonbinary transmasculine "guy" (female)

It's like, become a boy or don't.

>>7717735
Thankfully the next generation is apparently more moderate. Younger girls I've spoken to are surprisingly level headed and don't accept all the bullshit millenials have come up with.

>>7717786
True, I guess the pendulum just swings back. My 16yo cousin is pretty "conservative" for a girl her age, although she's going to a liberal school and whatnot.

>>7717777
I would just think of her as a reverse trap and get off to that.

>>7717695
but eating people out is my thing, it's the only thing I'm good at

>>7717703
I mean, it's better than dating and then realizing that she's weird/crazy. it's like a little red flag sticking up that says "don't date me"

>>7717735
what scared me was that I thought I was progressive. now I realize that I'm still just a bit left of center.

people like them (her) are the reason trump won

>>7717248
>Literally zero attratction to men
>Like anal stuff
>Easier to just get a guy on CL to fuck me than get with a girl and hope she's into it.

>>7717846
Should metion I'm male. Derp.

>>7717868
Why are you here? Dafuq_blackgrill.jpg

>>7716131
Because they're my family. I would get kicked out of my house growing up and they would give me their bed and take the couch.

>>7717758
S...Sauce? I'm not proud of myself ;_;

>>7718081
The death of the dudes in my family is a small price to pay for the freedom of all women today and tomorrow.

>>7718288
K

I have a solid proof that my ultimate femme crush is not only a lesbian but also single. I'm going to ask her out today. Wish me luck and I promise to post cute and/or lewd greentexts.

>>7718364
Best of luck Anon, I hope you'll get touchy-feely.

>>7718364
I'm giving you my energy. I want to see the cute.

I just had to break up with my girlfriend because I don't have time for a relationship and now I feel like shit for being so shit at time management that I don't have the time to give someone enough attention to consider them anything more than a friend
kill me

>>7718288
So are you just gonna let dudes die when you're supposed to be saving their lives? Or what?

>>7718468
RIP your sex life.

>>7718632
Not her but if she's too busy for a relationship she's probably too busy to have sex anyway.

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>>7718510
I wish.

>>7718641
>too busy for sex
pic related

>>7716851
Not asexual anon, but isn't it better if people with no interest in sex have a label for themselves? Whether or not true asexuality exists, I think it's good for somebody to state up front if they aren't interested in sex when it comes to potential relationships.

My friend is taking me out, specifically so we can flirt with random girls. Mostly because she thinks it'll get my confidence up and in theory, I'll act like less of an autist the more times I do it. It's difficult to rectify that in my mind though, because, on some level, I see going out just to hit on girls as, like, a guy thing to do. I think that I'm still hoping I can just meet cute some girl in a coffee shop, that will try to pursue me and all my dreams will come true. Am I just overthinking this?
Also how do I talk girls in a bar anyway? It's not a gay bar but it's a bar having a ladies night in a very gay part of town so there's gotta be at least a couple lesbians.

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Does anybody here own a gun?

>>7719292
No, but I wish I did.

I've fired rifles and pistols before and guns don't scare me, so I'd like to own one, even if it's just for plinking.

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>>7719674
>>7719292
Pic related. I want these.

>>7718632
lol I don't even have the time or the energy to read my lewd Chinese comics on /d/

I met my ex-gf earlier and she was wearing the same beanie I had just bought yesterday.

Is this some kind of supernatural lesbian power binding us together?

>>7719292
I have a small pistol that I carry for self defense. I'm a pizza delivery driver in the inner city. I haven't shot it since the day I bought it 2+ years ago.

>>7719860
shouldn't you take it to the gun range to make sure it's still in working order?

>>7719872
It's brand new and not rusty or anything so I'm sure it's fine. But maybe you're right. I should make sure it will work if I need it.

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>tfw no qt japanese weeb gf

>>7719880
She looks like a good person desu.

>>7719880
I wish Peko did New Generation. I really miss his art.

Anyway who is that qt? A seiyuu?

I asked my femme crush out and she said yes. We're going to movies on Saturday

>>7718283
akogare no onee-san by ogino jun

>>7720041
Cute. Good luck and all my jelly.

>>7720041
Take my energy anon. Let the desperation of one hundred lesbian virgins empower you.

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Did any of you watch this last night? Cruz really made Sanders look like a kooky, senile grandpa. Top tier entertainment desu.

So I finally asked my friend if she was fucking me about by constantly flirting with me, making out with me (and then turning around to ask someone else out) and commissioning me to draw a romantic picture of us despite my protests.

The answer was yes, obviously. Why am I still alive?

>>7720356
to date someone else and start ignoring her?

>>7720373
She's my best friend though. I don't know why she did this to be honest.
And I would, but I live in the middle of fucking no where.

>>7720406
move to my city and date me

>>7720431
It would be more plot thickening if you moved to her small town. Shake things up and make her friend jelly just like in my lesbian YA novels.

>>7716326
I'm a guy who clicked on this thread off the front page and has been idling browsing, but my gf has been using a wallet for years. She only uses a purse if the storage will be necessary, like at a theme park or festival. Even then its a hassle to carry more often than not.

>>7720431
On my way, I'm planning on moving soon anyway.

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What's your opinion on straight girls?

>>7720682
The only thing I hate more than straight girls is straight guys.

>>7720682
Hets are universally trash. But threadly reminder that straight women often fantasize of a lesbian converting.

Daily reminder that gold stars are the only women you should date. Bishits are trash and do not trust one.

>>7721032
Daily reminder that lesbians should only date gold star cis gay men

>>7720682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp0YumU5XSk
straight girls.....

>>7720298
It was funny when they started sharking each other off the podium
>blamed a small business owner with shit profit margins
>told her to fire people and go out of business

Tfw there's so much bi hate. Can't help it, and being turned down just because I like some dick sucks.

>>7715949
>>7715975
What the fuck is wrong with this board?
Saying that every man wants to rape you is like saying every woman is a good digger

>>7721417
Gold*

>>7715451
>How are you gonna get through the rest of this week?

Tomorrow I'll go to French class and have two disgusting fifty-something farts leer at me. On Friday I will go out with some friends and amuse myself while they pretend to like wine; we'll discuss some costumes ideas, maybe. Saturday is for sex.

>>7721417
>gold diggers and rapists are the same thing
If you wanted to stick up for males it's too late - they've revealed a level of stupidity they can't dig themselves out of.

>>7721449
I heard French girls are homophobic.

>>7721518
>I heard French girls are homophobic.
Only the muslims.

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>>7715451

>>7719292
Yeah, a Walther PPK because deep down I wanna be a Bond girl.
It's just for fun though, not allowed to carry it because lol laws.

>>7720682
I find it hilarious how much straight girls seem to enjoy gay stuff, but I wouldn't try dating one.

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>>7719860
>be lesgen burger that delivers pizza to plebs in the inner city
>jews and nigs too greedy to tip
>take out muh Freedom Weapon and pop a cap on their asses
>take pizza and money
>drown in pussy for being gangsta as fuck

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>>7721621
>tfw am I going to die a kv

>>7721171
This is perfectly accurate.

>>7721417
But every woman I know is good at digging!

>>7721518
>I heard French girls are homophobic.
>>7721534
>Only the muslims.

This.

>>7715872
Amen! Those who don't masturbate to the sight of their own bodies and criticize this behavior are jealous and deprived of self steem.

>>7715975
Crabs in the bucket mentality galore. You aren't even rape material.

If your nail polish is worn - fucking get rid of it.

https://giphy.com/gifs/l3q2HTXddTnWqJNJu

>>7721838
Just got a p22 myself, just have to wait for the silencer tax stamp to come in.
3-6 month wait time

>>7723003
So cool. It was either the PPK or the PPQ for me, but that still felt kinda unwieldy (small hands, duh), but still fun.
>silencer tax stamp
Wait does that mean you're allowed to shoot with a suppressor? That's so cool, I'd kill for that, just to wear more comfortable hearing safety.

>>7723082
Yeah, you get to use the suppressor either at the range not sure about hunting in my state and concealed carry, not that a .22 is loud or anything but I have a target range on a hill in my yard so the neighbors won't complain.

Stay away from the pk380 that thing has an awful feed/mag thing going on, my dad bought one and honestly if i had to use it to defend my self i'd have to throw it, and wouldn't be worried about someone trying to use it against me.

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>tfw you find out your friend is as big of a degenerate as you are and ships Elsanna

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>>7721884
No, but for real, I do have a crazy person book where I take down all the addresses of people who stiff me all the time.
They're so fucking stupid; I know whether or not they have security lights, or barking dogs, or if they'll hear something as loud as someone banging on their door, roughly how many people are in the house. I also have their personal phone numbers.

Never gonna do anything, I don't think, but fuck. Ya don't fuck with people who bring you your food, especially when they're bringing it to you in your own car.

Worst thing I ever did, because this woman told me the wrong address and had me end up going outside our delivery area, then had the balls to bitch about the pizza being late (No shit, we were trying to find you.)
Ended up forgetting her soda, so everyone at the store shook the FUCK out of it, and I did a little vaginal investigating in the car and touched all over the mouth of the bottle.
Hope those fuckers didn't use glasses.

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What do you do when you want your girlfriend to show you that she really loves you?

I can't help it, but feel insecure with her a lot. I feel like I've "proven" I love her more often than she does. It's not that she talks to other girls (that I'm aware of) or anything, but I don't know, I feel like she takes me for granted and never makes any effort in keeping me or goes the extra mile to do anything for me. Maybe I'm being shitty for feeling this way, but I just love her so much and I'm scared and I want more and I don't know what to do.

>>7723411
you're fucking insane, people like you are the reason i hate women and having other people cook my food

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>>7723455
work on your self esteem
also, love is not a competition

>>7723527
Don't be a dick.
This woman went over the fucking line, and that's what happens when you're forced to repress otherwise normal reactions in the name of 'professionalism'.
If I was able to have a normal reaction, confront her about her treatment of me in a civil way, and not be in complete danger of losing my job because I now have an 'attitude problem', it never would have gotten to that point.

If customers get to play by special rules, so do I.

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So while I'm here feeling sorry for myself b/c tfw no gf, some dude is fostering terminally ill children who have been abandoned by their parents. Nothing makes sense anymore. This is what I get for going on reddit.

>>7716562
Maybe it's
WHITED
H
I
T
E
D

>>7723669

The little revenge book is wayy out there in creepy stalker land. I get most people are insufferable assholes but I cannot stand vindictive people

>>7723823
Not going to feel bad when they bring it upon themselves.
The book helps us out, since if one pops up, we know to double it with another delivery, even if it doesn't make sense to distance-wise, to make sure we aren't sending someone out on a financial suicide mission.

Maybe customers wouldn't be such cunts if we could confront them like normal human beings.

>>7723455
read that one (short) book on love languages. It might help you.

>>7723669
Wow, you sound really pent-up, I suggest some meditation/stretching and intimate masturbation sessions. Perhaps pick up a stress-reducing hobby, like building model figures or keeping a bonsai tree..or something like that..Mind you, I'm polite to my deliverer, and tip extra well for them..shit is hard out there...

>>7723885
I masturbate like every day.

>>7723885
>intimate masturbation sessions

as opposed to public masturbation sessions.
got it.

>>7723982
intimate isn't synonymous for private in the context I used it (; If you can get away with masturbating intimately in public, go all for it

>>7723939
ur doing it wrong

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>>7723242
Best ship ever. I just can't stop reading cute fanfiction, and I never read fanfiction.

>>7724031
How do I do it right, then?

it's like 3 weeks into the semester how am I already burnt out?

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>>7723186
>tfw suppressors are super illegal in Austria
Goddamn it, I just want to go plinking in the forest.

Also look what I found lesgen. Have you summoned demons yet?

>>7724027
please enlighten me.
how did you use it?

>>7724086
>>7724086
being intimate with yourself

>>7724094
like
in·ti·mate1
ˈin(t)əmət/
adjective
1.
closely acquainted; familiar, close.

>>7724094
She means I should flick my bean in a bath by candle light with rose petals and shit floating around me or something.

>>7724088
use a plastic soda bottle stuffed with packing foam peanuts

>>7724118
>implying im a cis normative being that believes in cis normative views, based transgender studies prof who has a degree in history of medicine..

lol jk jk

>>7724118
Don't knock it 'til you try it, setting the mood can be tons of fun.

>>7724120
Alas, homemade suppressors are still super illegal.

>>7724120
I thought this was masturbation advice. I was like, shit, how loose are you?

>>7724127
Not like that.

>>7724127
yeah, but who would suspect some woman hiking through the woods?

>>7724140
that gave me a good laugh

>>7724140
I thought that too at first and was prepared to get offended. "What kinda stuff do you think I usually put up myself?"

>>7724158
Some woman with a gun in her hand and a homemade suppressor in the other? Also the folks around here know I used to go hunting with my father and such.

>>7724088
No, but according to a few clerics my driving has caused several earthquakes.

>>7723242
>>7724079
i love you all

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>>7724212
How'd you do that?

>>7724222
Love you too anon.
Also I'm reading Stolen Ice for the first time, it's good so far, slow-burning and interesting without being too obtuse.

>>7724228
Keep me posted, I'd love to know what you think of the rest of it. What chapter are you on?

>>7724228
I just drove to work and then there was an earthquake. I was wearing a skirt too, so I think that made it worse.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/islamic-cleric-blames-women-earthquakes-5655756.amp?client=ms-android-google

>>7724242
Chapter 11, so barely 15% in according to my Kindle. They're clothes shopping on some Carribean island.

>>7724255
Well, skirt and an earthquake, if you sit right you might get some enjoyment out of that even...
I'm sorry I'll go sit in the corner.

>>7715451
>How are you gonna get through the rest of this week?
Chances are, i won't

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>>7717735
>a nightmare where everything you thought you knew was wrong and you're the weird one. It's fucking psychotic.

FUCK, thank you for putting my emotions into words better than I ever could. Goddammit every day of this nonsense is killing me. I'm walking around and see shit that makes no sense and I want to think I'm just imagining things. When roomfuls of otherwise smart people in my university agree with absolute batshit nonsense it makes me want to grab each of them and shake them violently. Why the fuck does nobody see that this is madness and we don't need to keep accepting non-truths?

Thankfully I live in a red state so I might be able to snag a cute Republican gay gf, like one of those country girls or sports girls, but the ones that share my interests are all psycho leftists. Hell, maybe I'm a psycho too. I don't know.

does anyone else feel like this?

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>>7717744
I know what you mean. I'm not attracted to men and couldn't imagine myself touching one (I used to, before I hooked up with a girl and realized I can feel real physical feelings) but I could see myself marrying one in a sexless marriage. I would hate to die alone but good lesbian girls are tough to find and almost always in relationships.

I drank a bunch of coffee earlier and then acted like a goofball in front of my crush. She acted like I was weird but I think she secretly thinks I'm cute, or maybe I'm just delusional.

>>7724507
Nowadays, university is a machine for making money and a bastion for whatever ideology is deemed acceptable for the government. Students are led to believe they are getting the best academic training while in actuality they receive "a bit from here a bit from there" kind of education that makes them think they are able to start and keep an actual educated conversation with any given professional: You can talk to your doctor about the threats of ebola in 21st century Africa and discuss Chomsky's generative grammar with the Linguistics Department as one of them.

Finish your studies and get out of there as soon as you can.

>>7725030
That's why I go to a technical university. Nerdy girls and autistic guys. Lots of qt's and shitload of right wing supporters.

Sometimes i wonder if the genocidal girl here actually likes women or just really hates men.

And then I realized that she doesn't like women. She loves them. That's why she wants a world where they can be happy.

>>7723242
We need Elsanna or incest thread next
>we really are so degenerates

>>7724507
Nah. I'm not a racist from the 1940s

Drugs don't make me feel better so why I keep wanting to use them ...

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>friend calls me cute
>writes 'i love u' on my desk
>says my legs are cute even tho they're hairy
>writes 'you're fucking gay' on my arm
>keeps flirting with me all day even though she got a boyfriend
this is closest thing to a gf i will ever have

>>7725803
It's a troll, and surely a bootleg girl.

Reminder that nobody will never love you

>>7726269
What's a bootleg girl? I've been making cis lesgen threads for quite a bit now.

If you don't support the world domination of women, you don't deserve a girlfriend.


>>7726315
Thanks famo. *eats pop tart in careful, sad, contemplation*

>>7725030
I'm disgusted at colleges turning into career prep programs/technical schools.
I want to go to school so I can learn as much as I can. Fuck off.

>>7726392
What is a bootleg? Basically a knockoff in a lot of speech. She's calling you a knockoff girl, hence, a tranner

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Anyone play Overwatch?

Anyone feel free to add, mostly play on EU.

Laquisha#21457

>>7717695
male detected

>>7726968
Rude! The biggest lovers of men tend to be men themselves. Really. Makes you. Think.

>>7726973
Are you an actual laquisha or am I being baited.

>friend was gang raped as a kid by all her cousins
>she is on good terms with them now however and somehow moved on
>dont really get how she moved on
>she hangs out with them casually still

But how do I conceal my murder intent when I am around and they are hanging out.

>>7727459
Casually murder them. Males are trash for the trash heap. How people try to stick up for their "family" is beyond me.

>>7727522
I should. She know I will be a bitch to them though and doesn't argue about it beside the don't openly insult and diss them. They have no idea why I do that. But feeling this powerless makes me so angry.

>>7727459
She forgave them, you don't have to.

>>7727459
What the fuck? How did it happen and how does she put up with them now?

>barely three days in Australia
>already sunburnt like a lobster
Well it was fun while it lasted

>>7727558
I can't even if I try. I love her. And her whole family is shit so I know they are still capable of it.
Fucking scum.

>>7727568
When she told her dad he kinda hit her hard enough she ended up in a coma. So I guess it was the only way she can adapt. She is pretty strong, but she did get fucked up in many ways.

>>7727588
>When she told her dad he kinda hit her hard enough she ended up in a coma.
Jesus...

>>7727558
Male pls go. You're all fucking rapists that can't be trusted.

>>7727588
Exactly why I hate men. They're not human. Male apologists try to defend this shit? All y chromosomes are capable of this level of evil. And we should not blind ourselves to this fact.

>>7727600
She turned out amazing though. Like I am baffled she is this sane, social, caring and fucking amazing.
He still hits her, like when he found out she was dating a girl she got beat up.

And somehow she forgives even him.
To some degree.

Maybe forgiving them is her coping mechanism.

But god I dream of running them over.

>>7727626
That sounds pretty damn Stockholmy though.

>>7727626
Unhealthy as fuck. I would call the cops on them her "forgiveness" be damned.

>>7727626
>like when he found out she was dating a girl she got beat up.
Did she break up with her girlfriend after that?

>>7727094
I'm an actual Laquisha

.............

>>7727746
Reasonably sized?

>>7727746
>nigger names
kek

>>7727627
I agree. But if that's what is keeping her sane, it's not so bad. She can't really change her situation right now.

>>7727632
Impossible. We live in a shithole. And it was in her childhood, no way to prove it now. She can't sue the entire fucking family. There's like 13 or more.

>>7727721
No. It is pretty sweet. The gf wanted to break up cause she didn't want her to get hurt because of her, but my friend loved her. And she is used to it so she knows how to deal with it. So they figured out how to meet secretly. Still melts my heart.

>>7727848
Is it wrong that I find it kinda hot imagining being in her situation?

>>7727877
Male detected

>>7727892
Being in her situation, not doing it to her.

>>7727877
>>7727910
get mental help

>>7727910
I read your troll post correctly. Tis was a male that posted it.

>>7727917
>implying women can't get agp
>implying the OP doesn't literally contain "Anon finds nudes and almost gets off to them until she realizes they're of her"

>>7727923
>uses the term AGP
Yep. A tranner. Possesses a y chromosome. You men just progressively get worse.

>>7727931
You seem to know the term. Almost as if it's commonly used on this board and everybody knows it!

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>>7727948
>commonly used
By tranners.
>everybody knows it
is used by tranners.

Lmao just fuck off already you got caught

>>7727956
Cis gay man using it >>7726482

>>7727973
>Cis gay man using it
>gay man using it
>man using it
Sounds about right.

>>7727985
>cis
>gay
Just like us!

You are >>7727522 aren't you?

>>7728008
>just like us!
>us
Naw m8. Lesbian general. Just because you were upset you couldn't defend your fellow men for being trash - you decided to shitpost as "one of us". Then you fucked up. Further proving that y chromosomes can't get anything right. Go ahead and cry in your tranner general about that male pattern baldness. Bye!

>>7728036
>Bye!
I was right about you being >>7727522 then.

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>>7728049
Yup. Just like how I was right about you being a certified male.

>>7728091
When you dislike something you say a man did it and then you say men do all the bad things because look, everything you dislike was done by a man. It's circular. Just because someone made a post that triggered you doesn't change the poster's gender.

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Yesterday I goof'd real hard anons. Went for a running during nightfall, tripped on whatever and fell on the road. Did a good number on my knees and a bit on my hands. Phone screen is wrecked and now my knees hurt like a bitch.

Plz comfort me and tell me it's gonna be alright.

>>7728179
I see two legs in the picture. Why is the paper towel between the legs?

>>7728144
I'm not sure where your reasoning is. Biological men are stupid. You've shown me that.

>>7728179
I don't often go running outdoors for that very fear.

>>7728244
>Biological men are stupid.
So are you a tranny or just posting here to shitpost?

>>7728272
Triggered male, now you're just grasping too hard. Go cry elsewhere. You're not gonna bait any more responses from me.

>>7726004
Degenerate maybe. But /co/ is cancer.

>>7728295
>Triggered male,
Cool, you admit it.

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>>7728179
it's gonna be alright
you poor dear.

Guys. I'm in a situation where I don't know what to do at all. Closest friend since I was 14 and up (I'm 18) just mutually admitted that we had interest in each other and we were discussing a fwb situation because she's just recently come to terms that she's bisexual. I'm kinda terrified of ruining the friendship, what do I do?

>>7728231
Because my right knee accumulates fluid that leaks a bit through my bandaid. The paper towel is for me to periodically clean it. Not very charming, I guess..

>>7728244
I've ran so many times before now, kinda silly this actually happened. Guess being tired and cold didn't help.

>>7728347
Thank you anon ;_;

>>7728393
>fwb
This is pure garbage imo. Date her or don't.

>>7728308
Lmao. Now I just feel bad for you. I think of the wannabe "girl" I have to work with. He's depressing to look at.

>>7728393
In this case - don't touch that. Bishits, especially 18 yo bishits are not worth the headache.

>>7728477
>I think of the wannabe "girl" I have to work with. He's depressing to look at.
I'm not trans so...

>>7720722
this

>>7728393
avoid this it will not end well for either party

>>7726268
Shave your fucking legs, then maybe you'll get a girl.

>>7724514
>>7717744
Straight guy here.
Pretty sure this is what my wife did.

>>7728982
I'm fucking her.

>>7729013
Sucks to be you.

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>when you want to play vidya but you can't because of a million irl problems

I'm sorry LoL anon....

>>7723744
I think the proper term is

C O L O N I Z E D
O
L
O
N
I
Z
E
D

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>>7729346
actually the internationally recognized official term would be

B L E A C H E D
L
E
A
C
H
E
D

Goddamn it Anons, cheap Elsanna fanfiction shouldn't make me feel so hard. I feel like I'm a teenager

>>7729449
>hard

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>7729504
>what is a clitoris

>>7729504
Feel hard in the sense of making me experience feelings dummy.

You guys don't actually like eating pussy do you? Girls are awesome and beautiful and pussy is something you just put up with, right? I can't imagine anyone liking it.

>>7729803
Are you literally gay? Licking pussy is fucking good.

>>7729803
The fuck? Pussy eating is literally the best Anon.

>>7729525
That either doesn't make sense unless you're really stretching like >>7729507
Or you're using male terminology to explain your female sexuality and you owe it to yourself not to do that.

>>7729803
Are you fucking retarded?

>>7729874
You can't deny the clit gets harder when you're turned on. It's the ladyboner.

>>7729915
I'm not, but I'm saying you're stretching. Ask a woman what it's like feeling yourself getting aroused and you'll hear about tingling and wetness primarily. Again, not saying that it isn't part of the process, but as far as 'identifying' with it, it's very low. I'd say the lips swelling to come to mind before a 'hard' clit.

>>7729915
Fuck off tranny.

>>7729874
I think you misunderstood me anon. I'm saying I was feeling hard, as in, it made me emotional in a very excessive way. Nothing to do with anything hardening.

>>7729971
Oh, then you're just a fucking retard, then?
If you're mushy and full of emotions, you're fucking SOFT.
I think I see what you're getting at; like going hard on the dancefloor when you're really dancing like a mother fucker? Even so, you're phrasing is complete shit.

Is English not your first language? It's more you're word order than your vocabulary.

>>7729984
Sorry, 'your'

What's going on.

>>7729803
>tfw no vagina sitting on my face rn
Feels fucking ABYSMAL man

>>7729984
I guess I'm retarded, yes.
No, English isn't my first language. Third, in fact. Again, sorry if it was worded ambiguously, wasn't on purpose.

>>7729984
>this outpouring of pure 100% concentrate autism

It's almost impressive and I say that as an anti-social retard that spends most of her time on 4chan.

>>7730041
I just really fucking hate the co-option of male terms to describe female sexuality. I mean, 'political implications' aside, it's just gross.

>>7730036
Ok, well I speak one language only, so you're already doing better than me.

>>7730126
Like I said, I didn't mean to imply anything male, or anything to do with genitalia at all. Just feelings, not even of the sexual sort.

>>7730137
Nah, I get. Again, props on speaking another language.
Just explaining my tard rage at you.

>>7730141
It's fine. We all get tard ragey occasionally.

What do you do if a male friend tries to cuddle you?

In the past I've let them because I feel sorry for them and like it's too rude to shove them away and tell them to fuck off, especially because I'm used to (straight) female friends cuddling with me or wanting to when they felt upset or lonely, but now I think that as a mistake.

I've also had male friends try to kiss me and I just turned away and moved and tried to laugh it off rather than be more aggressive in turning them down. I'm not sure if being as beta and permissive as me is common or not, but I'm assuming it's more on the not end.

How do I start being more assertive without feeling like I'm kicking somebody while they're down?

>>7730201
Just say you're not into cuddling. Works for me.

>>7730201
don't cuddle, just hug.
if you go any further than hugging then you'll just confuse them

>>7730201
I dunno, you could like, have an open and honest conversation with them about why it makes you uncomfortable while also mentioning the 'not wanting to kick them while they are down' part.

Although, honestly, I don't think you ever need to consider hurt feelings when establishing physical boundaries.

>>7730209
I don't initiate it.

First date this weekend. Stressing out. I want it to work real bad. What do?

>>7730239
Shave your privates.
Just kidding, just relax and have fun. You'll be fine.

>>7730231
then don't let them cuddle with you?

>>7730209
I wonder if my behavior has been confusing.

This one goy has been trying to cuddle me every time we've been drinking lately, keeps on trying to kiss me, confessed his love to me, etc. When he tries to cuddle me it's usually when I'm so dunk I feel too sick to move away, but that doesn't stop me avoiding every kiss, telling him I am gay and never felt attracted to a man ever and never will, and so on. What am I meant to do more in this situation? I'm usually too fucked up to even move around properly at this point. Whenever we do hang out again he always apologizes (then does it again the same night :DD)

I'm pretty sure our other friends think we've fucked at this point because I've let him try to hold me for an entire night until morning which should trigger me more than it does (never even hooked up with a guy), but actually I've never felt more sure of being a raging homo than right now.

I don't know, I'm probably being stupid about the entire thing and shouldn't be so permissive. I don't really have any gay friends in person to discuss this sort of thing with, so I don't know how common it is to fall into this kind of situation. I always end up with male friends trying to take such liberties for all of our friendship despite it never going anywhere and them never even receiving a kiss in return. What's even the point in it all for them?

>>7730273
>this one goy
Oy vey anon

>>7730273
stop getting drunk with him?

>>7730273
>tries to kiss me
>confessed his love

End this if you do not have mutual feelings for him. You are sending confusing signals

>>7730343
Obviously, I don't. I told him as much and said that he's probably making his own feelings worse in the long run by acting this way or hugging me, but he said it made him happy. Not sure how to proceed.

>>7730273
Why do you keep drinking with this douche? He's obviously just trying to use your friendship to get closer to you despite you having told him it's not going to happen. He has no respect for you, so why do you care about him?

>>7730350

Like >>7730342 said, if your with a group of friends getting drunk let someone else know to come step in if this starts happening. Make it clear this cannot be happening anymore. If he keeps persisting stay away from him or call him out on his shit infront of everyone.

>>7730126
>I just really fucking hate the co-option of male terms to describe female sexuality. I mean, 'political implications' aside, it's just gross.
I don't understand any of your objections.

>>7730350
Well it doesn't make you happy. Tell him to stop touching you. That seriously was the last time. You would immediately end your friendship with him because he doesn't respect your personal space. Honestly, the fact he's trying to do all this while you're getting wasted is evidence enough he's been trying for more. One day you might not get lucky enough and he'll rape you. And the resulting mess is you might even pin the blame on yourself for not have putting your foot down sooner. This piece of shit needs to learn you're a human being who will not be mistreated like this, and he will learn that now. I'm serious anon. Males are dangerous when you don't put them in their place.

>>7724242
I'm not sure if you're still here Anon but I'm at chapter 31 now, about halfway through. I'm enjoying it a lot. It's going slowly and sometimes it's almost adorable and sometimes it's sorta uncomfortable (the whole thing in Amsterdam) but I'm definitely a fan. I just hope it doesn't end in suffering.

tfw first Valentine's day single in 3 years
big relief honestly

>>7730909
>tfw single on Valentines Day three years and counting

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>>7729057
It's okay, bby.
I'm currently overwhelm with upcoming exams and work anyways.

http://nypost.com/2017/02/09/newlywed-teacher-busted-for-lesbian-affair-with-student/
>attractive woman is jailed for lewd acts with female student
>anon's friend's family of literal violent criminals and rapists doesn't get any punishment whatsoever

This world, and all the men in it, have got to go.

Hey, Australian visitor anon, you picked literally the worst time to come here. This heatwave is going to kill us all. Rip in peace.

>>7731058
Yeah I'm definitely feeling that. I'm in the Blue Mountains right now, and it's slightly better but goddamn it's killing me.
I'm just gonna curl up in a ball and lie in the A/C and read.

>>7731058
You single? I don't know why I have such a positive view of aussies.

Is the goth scene full of lesbians? I would become a goth just to tap the collective goth pussy.

>>7731085
<3 stay cool and hydrated anon, air con is a gift from the gods

>>7731125
I am, but honestly idk what you'd be after in an aussie, I'm not one of those hot sun-kissed surfer babes that are on tv. I'm a shy nerd who doesn't like the sun and plays/sells games for a living.

>>7731149
>I'm not one of those hot sun-kissed surfer babes that are on tv.
As long as you aren't too chub - I just want to sit back and listen to the bite of that accent all day. Every aussie has a good sense of humor.

>>7731149
Thanks, that's the plan. Staying inside mostly, spa treatments, lots of drinking.