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/femgen/ - February edition

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FAQ
>What is a fem?
An androgynous male with feminine and soft features. Most are gay.
>Are fem guys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
>Can I be a fem?
It's possible. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
>Should I go on HRT?
You'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man. There's more info in the pastebin.
>Is liking fems considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
>Pastebin?
http://pastebin.com/9Ab1SpRE
>Discord?
http://discord.gg/faBYaap

old: >>7664032
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claiming this thread in the name of the best femboy
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>>7688408
>In the name of _____
>Not saying who
Ya blew it
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>>7688408
wew
this looks kinda pedo
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>>7688434
invoking the name of god in vain is a sin anon

>>7688449
he's 18 and you're jelly
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hey guise im a fem male on the outside but an icy suicidal tranny chimera on the inside
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Hey so I'm looking to experiment in a safe way ith this but up until recently I was exclusively into women but had an experience that kind of opened my eyes to effeminate boys. What do?
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>>7688434
It's twiinkii
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>>7688392
this is an aesthetic thread

>>7688408
this is probably underage softcore porn
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>>7688705
underage softcore is allowed
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>>7688710
that doesn't mean we should approve of it
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>>7688719
who cares? the person taking those pics was obviously feeling lewd enough to post them online. goddamn too many moralfags nowadays.
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>>7688787
jesus wtf
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>>7688850
>4chan.org
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>>7688787
yeah kids who pose for nude photos are so enthusiastic about it

i mean child porn is fine as long as the kids consent amirite
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>>7688472
You seem a little dislocated
This is a general for people who identify as males in case you needed someone to jog your memory
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I know it's probably been talked about 1000 times over but I'm starting biccalcumide at 50mgs it's takes awhile to build up and I'm switching from cyproterone I bout exactly 60 tablets how much.should I be taking each day along with progesterone and 6mgs of estrogen. Also those places to get blood test is there one on line or a therapist I could talk to online I'm a femboi with extreme agorophobia.
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>>7689643
I'm not this anon, but now that he mentions it I have also been considering making the same switch. I'm just curious as to whether a DHT inhibitor like fin or duta would also be necessary alongside bica to prevent hair loss. Does bica only block T or does it block DHT too?
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>>7689668
DHT and T both bind to the androgen receptor and activate it, with DHT having higher binding affinity. Bicalutamide binds to the androgen receptor and does nothing, prevent an androgen from being able to bind and activate it. However, DHT has a higher binding affinity for the androgen receptor than bicalutamide. However, after bicalutamide binds to the androgen receptor, it induces the nuclear translocation of the androgen receptor, meaning that it goes to the nucleus, where it would change gene regulation to masculinize if an actual androgen was bound to it, but because bicalutamide is bound to it, it instead does nothing and is eventually destroyed. As a result, the bicalutamide-androgen receptor interaction can be modeled as a case of irreversible binding of an antagonist, although that is not literally the case here. As a result, it should still be effective against DHT. This is consistent with the drug being used to treat hirsutism, and not with making it worse.

>tl;dr
You do not need a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, or as you have referred to it, a "DHT inhibitor", while on bicalutamide.
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The last thread sold me on bica, but I live in the us so I'd need a prescription, plus I doubt it's as easy as going to a doctor and telling them to give it to me so I can be a cute femboi
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>>7689892
Do you know if you need one while on Cypro?
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>>7689896
It is that easy if you go to an informed consent clinic, and it is easy to order online, of course you should always see a doctor and go to a legitimate phamaracy if possible.
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>>7689897
It acts as an androgen partial agonist, but the main mechanism of the drug is from antigonadotropic effects, shutting down the gonads. Therefore, cyproterone acetate should be effective against DHT. This is consistent with the drug being used to treat hirsutism.

>tl;dr
You do not need a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor while on cyproterone acetate.
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i feel like i might actually be bi

but the only guys i like are femboys who are kinda tall and want to top

should i kill myself now or later
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>>7689970
There are femboys like that on here.
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>>7689998
i didnt think femboys topped

is there a way to tell who tops
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>>7690033
There is something called language. It is a very useful invention for requesting and communicating information.
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>>7688705
>babbys first late bloomer twink
call the fbi
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>Could've been alpha jock in high school but didn't do sports
>didn't have the same longing to bang femboys as now
>finding myself less attracted to women as time continues
>no femboys around me
>I have failed at life boys
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>>7688889
How about I make you pose for child porn, you underaged faggot?
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Just rename this shithole to /twinkgen/ already. Nobody gives a fuck about feminine features or otherwise you just get called a tranny.
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>>7691629
People already tried that and it was bad. We care about our femininity and we use this general. Femboys and twinks are two different types.
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>>7691629
twinks suck, smooth feminine twinks rock
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>>7689896
you can self-med in the USA lol, no need for a prescription
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>>7690779
Get a damn car, its what i did and now im meeting qts in other countries
Its never too late you just gotta let the boypussy inspire you
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Join our glorious discord Trap City

https://discord.gg/xsr7vqd

We usually hangout and chill, voice, play vidya or just shitpost
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>>7692127
how do you join a lewd discord when your irl friends can find out???
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>>7692285
wut
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It could be possible to determine which coactivators and corepressors that estradiol binds to to have a pro-estrogenic effect in each tissue types, create a model of their interactions, and then develop a SERM from that that has the interactions that we want and not the interactions that we do not want. Then, the synthesis of this compound would have to be discovered, we test it on rats to see if it is toxic, and then we have a drug to do exactly what we want. This of course would be actually experimental, unlike simply doing bicalutamide and raloxifene.
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>>7688392
Burnt face pretty bad with uv rad from lab stuff, any one have s suggestion for ways to counter skin damage. I don't want it to sag or wrinkle from this
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>>7692285
Are you saying others can tell what groups you are in, even if its not a mutual server?
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>>7692682
Seeing a dermatologist would be a good idea.
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>>7689643
>tfw no agoraphobic femboy bf


PSA
dont eat grapefruit if u on SERMs
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>>7692697
>>7692391
what if they browse this thread, find this discord, go there for a laugh and find me there??? they'd think i were gay!
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>>7692852
They're gay for stalking you then!

But seriously the discord is very strict and will kick you the frick out if you don't post a timestamped picture of yourself within 30 seconds, so your friends won't have enough time to see you.
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>>7692882
i'm not ready for that, i'm insanely shy over the internet for no good reason. i can barely post my hand, let alone say hello to a stranger
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>>7692882
Is the discord only for femboys or are bears, musclemen, notfemboys allowed?
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>>7692715
Why would anyone want a semicute shut in I mean I'm not neet but I rarely ever go outside my house most of my boyfriend's hated my inability to leave the house most people don't understand desu.

All I want that is a bf that I can cook for, give good morning blowjobs, who wouldn't mind being a model for my paintings, who could wrap his arms around me after I have a rough day, who wouldn't mind running to the store for me when I run out of paints or foods.

Who plays strip magic the gathering and proceeds to always get me naked first same with playing fightan games. Doesn't mind a cozy day where we both cuddle and watch anime or TV.

Also has a dominant streak and wouldn't be averse to putting their pet or slave in their place with a leash in their hand and a whip in another. Sadly such bfs rarely seen to be in my area.

What's going to happen if I eat grapefruit.
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>>7693115
i would do all that, kinda my dream, except for fighting games, that shit sucks
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>>7692586
You're definitely on to something bro
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>>7692882
>Post a picture every thirty seconds

This triggers my anxiety bad.
Plus I'd rather not have creepers save my pics and ruin my life.

Probably better off not joining the discord not that I'm cute enough anyways.
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>>7693142
Sounds like a dream fightan games is just to hone my skills x3 I'd give you a bj if I lost tho still Vidya in general is nice.
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>>7689970
I am attracted to femboys and women, but also sometimes want to be manhandled by a man way larger than me
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How do I have more feminine mannerisms?
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>>7693115
This is what I want in my life 100%
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>>7693115
How does one play strip mtg??
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>>7693523
It's my dream anon I wish more guys like you were in the Dixie area.

>>7693958
Basically when you lose life you shed an article of clothing infect decks works the best since the whole 10 poison counters works better that 20 life. Also the loser has to suck the winners dick or put out any way they like I used to play with my straight fuck buddy but he moved on to girls.
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>>7692586
You would need to test it in humans as well to be sure.
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>>7692682
After it heals, get a chemical peel or CO2 fractional laser treatment.
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>>7694998
That is what we have /femgen/ for. :P
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What songs ya listening to, femgen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx60TAQvKnA
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>>7695564
My chemical romance.
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>>7695575

Of course you fucking are
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I never thought id be saying this but it has to be said...is circe...dare i say it.../ourguy/?

>is beautiful
>has a thriving colorful sex life with many different flavors expierencing all life has to offer
>does not jewish made concepts like feminity and masculinity hold them down
>isnt white so very exotic
>completelt bold even posting with a trip to show shes proud of their posts
>nonviolent and a sweetheart princess just like how femboys should be
>takes the most abuse yet gets up and keeps fighting
>prettier than you
>is very controversial... you either love em or hate em but you dont ignore them
>works you marks into a shitposting frenzy
>made zombo act like a child and they just ignored it
>legitimately good person
> not on hrt
>is hope that anyone can be a femboi


Face it shes our guy.
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>>7696174
Zombo! How ya doin?
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who /feminine beard/ here?
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>>7695564
Avril Lavigne :^)
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>>7696630
icky
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>>7696630
get the fuck back to gaygen
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>>7696630
Now I finally get what str8 guys feel when they see girls dressed like that
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>>7696131
You do realize they were on hrt for years and are a trans girls and lived like one for years they got tired of mtfgen cause it didn't give them enough attention oh wait they still post there.
Seriously stop with this silly drama too I pretty ridiculous. The forced meme will never work.

The best thing I ever did in my life is filter trips I recommend you all do the same.
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>>7697404
Zombo!
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>>7693115
I've been living a quasi-neet life for the past year so i understand at least somewhat where you are coming from, as long as you fold my laundry this sounds ideal. I hate folding laundry. Also call me daddy.


Also also grapefruit is known to fuxk with lots of meds, serms included. I think it would probably just make the serms not work but who knows
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Sorry but I'm kind of new to the SERM thing. Is Ralista the same as Evista? The ralista variant seems to be far cheaper (about two to three times cheaper).

I'm thinking of getting rid of the small cone boobs I got from my previous HRT (when I cheaped out on pills)
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>>7693115
>>7698695
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit–drug_interactions
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>>7698725
They both would seem to be different brand names of raloxifene. It should be fine. Also, SERMs should work to reduce existing breast tissue, especially if it was gained recently, but do not get disappointed if it does not.
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>>7698695
it fucks with tamoxifen but not raloxifene afaik
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>>7698787
>especially if it was gained recently
Mine's pretty recent so I think it'll work for me thanks!
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We need to convert more people to femboys, this thread is too slow as it is now. Maybe we can try shitposting on /r/GenderCritical on Reddit?
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I need skincare routines and I need them now
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>>7700225
Cross-sex HRT would help. Barring that, this is from the Pastebin linked in the OP:
>Skincare:
/r/skincareaddiction, /fa/'s /scg/
TL;DR: Use cleanser, chemical exfoliant, moisturizer/retinol creams/gels, water-based sunscreen (50+ SPF Broad Spectrum) from brands like CeraVe/St Ives if poor or Paula's Choice if not
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>>7700223
I'm making an effort IRL
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>>7700255
In what ways? Is there something that others can do as well?
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>>7700258
telling any already-andro/fem guys I know IRL about bica etc., showing them this general, before/afters and stuff
also bought 6 months worth of bica for one of my bestest friends who's enby and a model to get them started 'cause I could tell they were stalling, now they say they're happier than ever
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>>7700276
It must be an awkward conversation. What would you do if you were to suggest that to someone and they were to reply that they are not a tranny?
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>>7700338
I've yet to get that response from anyone so far, my current count is 3 fembros to date, I don't think that the paranoia in this general is part of the consciousness of most non-4chan femboys, they're just glad to hear that such a thing as bica exists

don't forget how many non-chan transpeople go til 30 without discovering hrt exists, a lot of people still think being trans consists solely of good genetics, srs and hormones that give you breasts
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>>7698635
Not zombo whoever the fuck just tired of tripfag bullshit.

>>7698695
I regularly fold laundry do dishes clean the house on my days off can't really keep still I'd rather be working than do nothing. For sure I'd call you daddy while you spank my tight Twink ass. Welp now you got me curious about the grapefruit.

>>7698745
Well shit fuck glad I hate grapefruit.

>>7700223
The world needs more fembois that's for sure the whole emo generation would have been saved if they took bicalcumide if only I had a time machine I'd look cuter and have a harem of boisluts.
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https://discord.gg/G3QQGRv

Ya'll can join my discord if you want. :3c
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>>7700582
>don't forget how many non-chan transpeople go til 30 without discovering hrt exists
Yeah, it's weird. I didn't realize HRT was a thing until I was 22.
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>>7701172
what sort of stuff goes on there? :o
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IF YOU LIKE BIG FAT TRANNY COCK GIVE ME A HELL YEAH
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More people are being converted to femboyism!
>>7702089
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Had to share this somewhere and figured this was the best place for it.
>had a dream for the first time in forever
>mom and I wound up at an adult fetish store for some reason
>the clerk was a really cute girl around my age
>she asks if I want to see how some of the merchandise I'm looking at works
>I say sure
>she ties me up and starts violating me
>my mom is still there
>she's obviously shocked
>she unties me
>I go to the bathroom to get some toilet paper to clean off
>all the tp is dirty for some reason
>finally find some clean tp
>tall black guy propositions me for sex
>n-no that's alright
>leave
What does it meeeaaaan?
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>>7700223
I'd prefer it if I didn't have to interact with them to be quite honest fampai
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>>7702890
not me this time lol
why would I describe femgen as girls? femgen best boys
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>>7703335
Why not?
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So I've previously seen an anon mentioning about how we should only take 25mg of Bica a day. How should I go about doing that, cutting the pill into half? And what about Raloxifene then?

Thanks in advance!
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>>7704498
It's better to split it into thirds and alternate taking 1/3 and 2/3.
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>zombos the one bullying robin
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>>7703278
You are still processing Trump's victory and your subconscious is struggling with your repressed desire for a white ethnostate.
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>>7704498
Why only 25mg?
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>>7704807
thanks Freud
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>>7704693
Would that be easy to do? Does it come in solid powder form or in capsules?
>>7704869
I don't know either anon...
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/u/NurgleChaos, the user on /r/GenderCritical that made that post criticizing femboys a while back, has now moved onto criticizing FtMs on >>>/lgbt/, as seen here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/5salfz/all_tomboyautisticboth_natal_females_should_be/

The users on >>>/lgbt/ftmg have noticed this now: >>7706079

For reference, here is the post that started this off: >>7702123
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I'm too tall to be a femboy but at least if I angle photos right it just looks like I have long slender legs.
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>>7706336
Things are really getting chaotic there. I think you guys should join in, we might be able to convert over some femboys.
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>>7706912
You can still be a femboy.
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>>7706929
I'm nearly 6'5
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>>7706933
So?
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>>7706941
It just doesn't work.
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>>7706973
those thighhighs are cute and so are you xxyanon
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>>7707148
I just kinda exist in limbo. I was great at this femboy stuff when I was 15 and on /soc/. Now I'm tall and gross above the waist.
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>>7707183
knowing what you look like i don't think you should be so worried about how you look
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>>7707271
I'm glad you either reverse searched me or know my tumblr, anon.
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>>7707282
or we're both in the discord
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>>7707304
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>>7707315
post your tumblr? i have a pretty big crush on you
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>>7707337
To cite a tumblr classic.
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>>7707351
it's all porn isn't it
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>>7707360
Not of me, but you got me.
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>>7707369
i expected nothing less
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>>7707385
I mean who can really say they're posting on /lgbt/ and not a porn crazed slut?
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>>7707393
i hope having secret admirers makes you feel better. that's all i wanted
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>>7707418
Is it really a secret if it's anon, anon?
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>>7688392
Post Kawoshin
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>>7707430
as long as i'm anon, anon. one day you'll love yourself and you'll join us all in fem4fem paradise
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>>7707464
Maybe one day. In the meantime, why the fuck do I have an admirer who recognizes me here of all places.
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>>7707473
6'5
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>>7707517
Ah so it's "I want a taller fem guy to be my fem boyfriend"
Relatable. I'd like a tiny fem boyfriend. Shame I'm 90% sub.
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>>7707531
i recognized you by your height. i'm a top
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>>7707549
Well I have no idea about anything anymore whatsoever
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>>7707561
that's the idea
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>>7707613
Is there a specific point to confusion.
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>>7707640
can't an anonymous femboy want to dick you without your head spinning?
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>>7707655
Don't be silly. Of course not. If anything you're making my head spin with making me wonder what the fuck is going on other than a person wants my dick and I don't know if I do or don't know this person or what's going on at all.
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>>7707640
Good sock colors, I have that one too
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>>7707722
Yeah I'm a big fan of that one. They're really hard to import from America though. Customs. Eugh. I bought 5 pairs to save myself $40
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>>7707677
i don't want your dick. just your butt kthnx
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>>7707739
Can't refute that. I like to think it's a pretty nice butt.
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>>7707751
good night xxyanon
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>>7707765
ta ta
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>>7706198
It typically comes in liquid form, but you can extract the precipitate from it.
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>>7707282
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>>7708021
Damn you got me I'm a store window mannequin.
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Will spironolactone cause infertility? I'm too poor to get bica. Will it work okay with raloxifene?

Thanks!
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>>7708021
Reverse image search shows right there in your image, you are searching the thumbnail due to the size of the image (125x93) when the full image in his post goes into the thousands. This plays an important role in reverse image searching because tiny pixels make for a picture for ants.

If you clicked the google tab in 4chan X addons or whatever and it did that, try left clicking the image first to expand it before clicking it. If you don't have an addon then you just copied the URL of the thumbnail, not the image itself.
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Is there any curse worse than low, flat cheekbones?

>can't look manly
>can't look cute because face is not round
>gotta have stubble or bronze foundation to get the illusion of proper cheekbone, the former which kills cuteness
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>>7709034
>Is there any curse worse than low, flat cheekbones?

Yes. Having a square jaw instantly ruins everything more than anything else on your face. The only other thing to rival a heavy jaw is a heavy brow.
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>>7709039

Yeah but you can be chad or a manly fag.
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>>7709078
And if you could be a Chad or Manlyfag then you wouldn't be in a thread like this bitching about having masculine features and wanting to be a femboy.

If you did, you'd be bitching about a square jaw or heavy brow.

Instead you're making out like your shit is the worst when it isn't.
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Just gonna xpost from the /MTFG/ thread. Y'all will probably have a better idea (and I wouldn't mind an androgynous look).

>>>7709303

>Q: I'm super tall (197cm, 6'5") and I'm not super girly and obviously I have a masculine-ish body shape.

>What kind of jeans do I get? I've always used the "pick the tallest men's jeans" method, but they are always waaaaaay too baggy. I've got male hips (long as opposed to wide), and slender legs.

>I don't want skin-tight, and definitely not super baggy. I want them to be as flattering as possible given my unfortunate circumstances as it is :P Also,I'm told I have a "nice butt" if that helps.

>The last time I bought women's jeans, they fit (like there was still a smidge of slack when buttoning them), but they were too tight at my thighs and kept trying to ride down which is super annoying and unflattering.
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>>7709018
i did that and still got no results..
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>>7709596
Aye, neither. Just saying.
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>>7709309
get slim women's jeans or something, i think the longest you can get is 34 though so i hope you fit in that
super skinny is master race tho
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>>7709624
Speaking of women's jeans, I'm 5"7 and recently moved to skinny jeans for men but they're always so long in the legs they go right past my feet and make it so they're bunching up all over my legs that it really ruins it. Plus, they don't hug my ass as well as I would like, and heck even the crotch droops low.

Is wearing women's jeans incredibly obvious? I've always loved how women's jeans hugs their butts and accentuate it, and I imagine the legs would be much shorter since women tend to be shorter so there'd be less bunching up. But I'm too nervous (for obvious reasons) to go into a store and try on women's jeans.

Would it be incredibly obvious if I had women's jeans on? Or can I find proper leg-length jeans that're maybe tighter than the skinny jeans I have?

I'm pretty much on the smallest size they had available in store.
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am i ok
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>>7709671
well women's jeans generally don't have pockets or if they have they are so small you can't even fit half your hand in them
they also have way less room in the crotch area so i hope you don't have a huge weiner
idk if it would be obvious, unless they are super skinny or so i doubt it would be noticable
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>>7709682
almost, post bod
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>>7709703
ummm
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>>7709693
Super skinny is kind of what I want though. I want something to show my ass off, I always get envious of women who get to wear nice skin tight jeans and they rid up into their ass to eccentuate their cheeks and pull them up a little. Then I go and wear guys jeans and they just droop way down past your ass which makes it look flat, and it sucks.
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>>7709682
U look creepy in long hair short would b alot nicer
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Whats /femgen/'s bra size?

t. failed wanna be femboy who stopped taking pills months ago
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>>7710161
>>hrt
>>mtfg
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>>7710170
>Implying this gen isnt full of fags who take hrt
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>>7710176
yes but not enough to get tits, if you get tits then you're turning trans in which you should migrate
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>>7710184
I wanted to see how big some anons chest size, not to see if they had tits
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>>7710198
>bra
>size
>not tits
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>>7709852
then go ahead and get them, they will 100% be noticable as women's jeans because men's jeans don't come nearly as skinny
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>>7709624
I'm like 37" inseam :| Thanks for the cut info, though!
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Why haven't you all become mtf yet? Are the boobs and hips not triggering dysphoria?
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>>7710525
Youre ugly thats why
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>>7710543
At LEAST i pass.
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>>7710551
forget to take off your trip?
youre a cutie tho
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>>7710525
>dysphoria
>real thing
lmao
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>>7710622
It's no different than BDD.
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>>7710641
You are an ugly tranny.
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>>7710641
>It's no different than being an angsty pussy
true
gonna make up a disorder for being a figurative cunt too?
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>>7710666
Being a cunt is a choice, not a disorder.
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>>7709682
Screw >>7710147, the long hair looks great, keep it.
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>>7710690
You are an ugly tranny.
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>>7710809
All the boys at my college don't think so.
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>>7710815
You are an ugly tranny
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>>7710815
>>7710641
Hey can you please just fuck off back to your general. We hate trannies here.
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>>7710815
You look fine and you'd be better liked if you weren't an ass to all of us
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>>7710988
Ugly tranny detected
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>tfw too intelligent to date a femboy
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>>7711044
I'm not a tranny you funking hon
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>>7708743
Will spironolactone cause infertility?
Yes.It will shut down your sperm production over time.
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>>7705890
Your mother was overly protective during adolescence this is clear from her presence combined with the bdsm/kink restraints, your adult life will be dominated by this sexual fascination with your mother as the dominator

the translation to the bathroom scene represents the ego externalizing this inner desire as a schwarze


that'll be 3.50 plz
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>>7709671
y do u care if its obvious


straight dudeguys used to wear womens jeans in the myspace days all the time
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>>7710690
idk

id argue assburgers are cunts because of their disorder
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>>7708743
Spiro seems to cause less infertility than cypro. Possibly because of the way they act.
Technically both spiro and cypro are androgenic, they're just less androgenic than testosterone and DHT so they occupy receptor space and steal it from test. Spiro is more androgenic than cypro is though which is why spiro is not used for prostate cancer anymore.
So ultimately spiro will cause infertility but it doesn't seem to be as powerful as cypro. Many people can go like 1+ years on just spiro and if they aren't using estrogen they'll still be fertile.
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can't we just not argue and talk about butts instead?
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hank hill?
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>>7710804
t-thanks
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It is likely that there are coactivators and/or corepressors for the estrogen system that are specific to the breast tissue. It should be possible then to design a SERM that is an agonist at the estrogen alpha and beta receptor isoforms, but does not bind to the needed coactivators and/or corepressors that are present in the breast tissue, but do bind to all the others. Then, we further can design the SERM such that it does not significantly penetrate the blood-brain barrier. Then we have a SERM that does not effect the breasts, nor the brain, but does effect everything else, the perfect SERM. With darolutamide, we can avoid having the AA effect the brain as it does not significantly penetrate the blood-brain barrier either, and because testosterone is still around, it can still carry out non-androgenic anabolic functions, allowing for muscles.
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>>7711581
Crippling anxiety that someone is going to king hit me in the back of the head for being a crossdresser because I can't look female.
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>>7711307
>>7711738
I'm not going to be having kids anytime soon, will the infertility be reversible if I'm taking Spiro alongside raloxifene?
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Was I always destined to like femboys
>me and my dad made fun of feminine guys
>always made jokes to my friends about fem guys
>one friend comes out I accept him cause I honestly don't care
>he starts to look at fem guys on some porn site
>shows the friend group cause retarded high schoolers
>I feel weird about it because high schooler
>start to look at fem guys without making jokes
>looked for the porn started to like it
>now I'm having serious talks with a fem guy
>feels for him
>was this always going to be or was it random
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I'm looking to get a more bit more femme with hormones. A few years ago when my hormones were checked I was pretty normal, but my sex drive is rather low which people say that's low testosterone.

Can I just get some anti androgens and get a bit more femme like that? Through the use of lowering my testosterone but not raising my estrogen?

I don't want tits, not at all. I want my body hair to grow slower (and hopefully thin out), I want my skin to be softer and have an overall softer appearance.

I'll be buying from Inhousepharmacy.vu, so what should I be looking to buy? I want to be a feminine guy, not a trans.
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>>7713918
Raloxifene and Bicalutamide, no boobs, more feminine bone structure. Can't afford them? Get Spironolactone instead of Bica
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>>7713454
It's unknown to medical science whether it's reversible or not. People usually say its reversible if you stop within a year or so. But I think there was at least one report that it could be reversed after a few years of HRT. But it's not well known. Personally I think it could come back, but it's just my speculation.
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>>7713930
Which doses would you say and how many a day? 90$ for 60 tablets of Ralista (Raloxifene, 60mg) and Spiro has 25 and 100mg variations (One a day as well?)

I'm 24 so my bones can't really shift, I'm just looking to soften my appearance out since things like my facial hair grow fucking fast, and my body hair grows fucking thick. I'm apparently cute but I have that 'nearly a fem' look about me, just not quite there.

Will the Spiro (AA) hurt me in anyway? Because I'm lowering my testosterone to get more femme, but I'm not pumping myself of estrogen to counteract it so isn't it dangerous to lower testosterone without putting something else in its stead?
Or is that what the Raloxifene (DHT) is for?
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>>7713945
>24 so my bones can't really shift
It goes up to 25 if you're lucky.

You could try 25-50mg Spiro per day depending on your own T levels.

>Will the Spiro (AA) hurt me in anyway?
No because Raloxifene has estrogenic effects other than on the breasts receptors.

>>7713941
Spiro is also commonly prescribed for Acne, hair loss and bloodpressure so I would assume that it's safe for fertility.
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>>7713945
Read the side effects of spiro for yourself on wikipedia.

>Raloxifene (DHT)
What?

It's not really dangerous to lower your testosterone without putting something else in it's stead. It might just depression, and potentially bone density problems in the very long term (after many many years, potentially).

Ralox however would seemingly help avoid the bone density thing, because (according to wikipedia which you should fucking read) "[ralox] has estrogenic actions on bone".

As to depression though, I can't say because I don't know if ralox is active in the brain.

I also can't say whether having no sex hormones truly results in depression, or if that's just a symptom of hormonal changes in general, but people often say that the former is true.

>>7713955
You assume incorrectly. The doses people take for acne, etc. are much lower, and don't completely shut down testosterone production.
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>>7713955
>It goes up to 25 if you're lucky.
Well, I've been paranoid about the risks of importing medication for sometime, also the cost. Good lord the cost, but I'm at my rope's end here so I'm putting all my chips in.
>You could try 25-50mg Spiro per day depending on your own T levels.
Considering how heavy and thick my hair grows I'll just go straight into 100mg, one a day.

>No because Raloxifene has estrogenic effects other than on the breasts receptors.
Oh, really? I don't know much about DHT but I didn't know it had estrogenic properties to it. Honestly, I thought you assumed I would be taking an estrogen automatically in the post because I thought it was...

Anti Androgens to lower testosterone; Estrogen to get softer look/feminine; and DHT to stop breast growth and such.

But if Raloxifene has estrogenic properties, why don't Trans people take just AA's and DHT?

Thanks for the help by the way.
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>>7713955
>Will the Spiro (AA) hurt me in anyway?
>No
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spironolactone#Side_effects

Goddamn keep your ignorance to yourself.
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>>7713958
>What?
I thought Raloxifene was a DHT, my mistake sorry. I'm not good with technical stuff and don't understand a lot, I just know what effects I want.
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>>7713961
>>7713973
You are seemingly mistaken about what DHT is.

Raloxifene is not DHT. DHT (dihydrotestosterone) is bascially an extra potent form of testosterone that can cause baldness and thick body hair. AKA you do not want to take DHT.

Ralox is a SERM which means "selective estrogen receptor modulator" which means that it acts like estrogen in certain parts of the body and not in others. The main reason people promote Ralox/SERMs here is because they don't act like estrogen in the breasts, in fact they block feminization in the breasts, but they feminize other parts of the body. The reason trans people don't take Ralox is because trans people usually want the full effect of estrogen in their entire body, including the boobs.
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On that note I wonder if ralox is effective in the skin, brain, etc. Since it doesn't work on the breasts, I wonder what else it doesn't work on. In other words femboys may be giving up feminization of other parts of the body in exchange for not growing breasts.
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>>7713976
Thank you, and sorry you've had to explain it to such a simpleton like myself. I know it's been explained to death and back again in these threads but I really do appreciate you taking the time to save [spoiler]my life[/spoiler]

I'll order some Ralista (Raloxifene) 60mg and take it once a day and Spiractin 100mg and take those once a day.

That should soften my overall appearance and give me minor estrogen effects while not giving me breasts, yeah? (From what I know; Thinner skin (more easily damaged too), softer skin, thinner hair (body hair included so looks less like bushy man hair), slower hair growth, lowered libido, maybe depression, maybe weaker bones)

Any issues like nausea or sickness I'll contact a doctor but it will be a last resort thing as here, it's "Go full or go home" so simply saying how you want to look more feminine is just incomprehensible to doctors here which is why I've decided to take the dip into self medicating.
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>>7713990
You may want to reconsider Spiractin and take Bica instead.
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>>7713990
No problem. But I think it would be good for your own sake to read the wikipedia articles at least cursorily.

>100mg spiro

You may end up needing more to get what you want. If you can get a blood test check it after a few months. You might need more spiro to suppress your testosterone to female levels. I'm not sure how ralox will play into it though, so you might not need to. Either way you should check with a blood test.

For trans people, 100 mg spiro is relatively low.
However, with enough estrogen you need less AAs because estrogen indirectly suppresses testosterone production, but I'm not sure if raloxifene has the same effect.

>>7714000
Yeah maybe bica would be better.


Anyway good luck.
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>>7714000
160$ for 60 tablets is quite a lot. At one a day that's two months, I'm not sure I can sustain that, so may I ask why exactly? I know it's stronger, but it's basically double the price. I will buy it if you genuinely believe it should be what I'm on, with hopefully a given reason.

I'm not smart, I'm the type of person who will describe things to a doctor and they will help me, but I have no doctoral help here so I'm confiding in Anons to help in what's best for me, because if I don't have my hand held through these details I will crash and burn.

>>7714005
>You might need more spiro to suppress your testosterone to female levels. I'm not sure how ralox will play into it though, so you might not need to
This is what I was initially concerned with. It's a balancing act of hormones, isn't it? If both scales go too low, you just cause major, major problems that can likely kill you.
If I put my testosterone too low, then I have neither testosterone nor estrogen and this causes issues. I thought the Raloxifene would circumvent this by supplying enough estrogenic effects to not make me stoop into critical conditions but not enough estrogen for breasts.
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>>7714022
>If both scales go too low, you just cause major, major problems that can likely kill you.

No. Prepubescent children hardly have any sex hormones. Same with eunuchs/castrati. Having too little isn't a big deal. Having too much however can cause problems.

People nowadays cut off their testicles and keep living in relative health for many years.
You don't need to worry about that so much.
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>>7714027
Well I've had it entirely wrong then, thanks for the clear up.

I'll order some Ralista (Raloxifene) 60mg and take it once a day and Calutide 50mg and take those once a day.
Should give the effects I desire, surely? I got a little concerned since Anon said >>7714005
>I'm not sure how ralox will play into it though, so you might not need to.
Which doesn't sound very confident and has me questioning again. When you take a strong enough AA, does the SERM not matter anymore for the effects I'm looking into?

Talk about expensive though... 240$ for two months supply but I imagine it will perhaps be well worth it.
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>>7714033

You could potentially take 50 mg of bica every other day to save money. But 50 mg would be safer to block all testosterone.

>When you take a strong enough AA, does the SERM not matter anymore for the effects I'm looking into?

The SERM/estrogen and the AA have different functions.

The SERM/estrogen is supposed to feminize the body by activating estrogen receptors. Ralox (a SERM) doesn't activate estrogen receptors in the breasts, but activates them in other parts of the body. This way, by taking Ralox you can get some feminization but avoid growing breasts. If you take plain old estrogen, you will feminize basically all over the body, including the breasts.

AAs are supposed to stop testosterone from activating "androgen receptors", (greek for "create male" - activation of these receptors masculinizes you) and therefore suppress masculinization. Some AAs like spiro and cypro suppress testosterone production as well as block the testosterone receptors. Bica only blocks testosterone receptors.

Aside from AAs, there is another way to suppress testosterone production and therefore decrease androgen receptor activation, and therefore suppress masculinization. The following fact was used in the past for trans people to feminize without using AAs, before AA use became widespread:
Estrogen suppresses testosterone production in males, by binding to certain estrogen receptors in the brain. So with a large enough dose of estrogen, you can shut down your testosterone production. However, it isn't yet known (to my knowledge at least) if raloxifine activates the estrogen receptors in the brain or not, so I can't say whether or not ralox will help suppress testosterone production like normal estrogen would.


See this image for some info.
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>>7714033
>>7714062

Also see this image for how sex hormones (testosterone and estrogen) are regulated in the body. Of course, people usually only have either testicles or ovaries, but the same mechanism is in place in both sexes.

As you can see there is a negative feedback loop: excess sex hormones in the brain will suppress sex hormone production, whereas too little in the brain will cause an increase in sex hormone production. Thus, your sex hormone levels are stabilized at a certain level.

You can make use of this mechanism for HRT. For example by adding estrogen to your body, both the estrogen and the testosterone register as sex hormone in your brain, and by adding the estrogen you tell the brain that you have "too much" sex hormone (because it counts both testosterone and estrogen). So, to compensate, your brain will start to decrease the amount of testosterone it produces.

Whether or not ralox can do this though, it remains to be seen.
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>>7714062
>You could potentially take 50 mg of bica every other day to save money. But 50 mg would be safer to block all testosterone.
Considering both of them are 60 tablets, for consistency sake I'd take one a day for them both anyway.

>>7714062
>>7714080
I'll re-read your posts multiple times and try my best to digest this information until it sticks, it's very useful information for sure, but I have to ask; Does my cart look proper for what it is I'm looking to achieve?

I'm so incredibly anxious because this is a very big step to me and I want to make sure I'm doing it right. Not just financially but general life reasons. Hormones are nothing to joke around about after all.
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>>7714080
>your brain will start to decrease the amount of testosterone it produces

I mean your body produces it in the testicles, your brain just signals it to be produced, indirectly.

>>7714092
Looks fine to me although I don't explicitly recommend ralox to people usually, of course others in this thread recommend it all the time.
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>>7714092
>Please select Payment Type
>Credit Card only accepts American Express
>No Paypal option

What the fuck, seriously? That's just weird.
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>5'5 and skinny with small bones
>masculine prominent brow that makes me look constantly grumpy
>just feel weak and like a failed man in public. Can't even fall back on being cute because my face is too masculine
Feels awkward man
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>>7714151
Get FFS
I'm ultra conscious about my brow ridge too. I'm planning to get it fixed when i get enough money.
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>>7714156
I'd feel weird about getting surgery, especially with the risks involved and expenses. Plus I don't want to look like a woman, just androgynous. I'm currently just growing my hair long to hopefully look more fem.
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>>7714167
Eh. Suit yourself I guess.
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>>7714122
Well I may as well tie a fucking noose. My bank wont let me transfer through bank transfer with anything under 500$ and my order was placed at 270$.
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>>7714175
Try other sites. There are a few. Or email that company's support about paypal/other payment methods, etc.
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>>7714179
Other payment methods are out of the question.

I know the Pastebin has a few listed in it, but what sites would be best to look at?
I've heard of Inhousepharmacy.vu for ages and it's so very widely used that it seems trusted. But 8 or so years ago I ordered a medication I was taken off online and it turned out to be sugar pills despite there being so many claiming it to be legitimate.
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>tfw overbite/slightly recessed jaw
how to fix
makes me look chubby
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>>7714122
paypal lets you do chargebacks. of course some grey market isn't going to accept it
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>>7713490
you either developed a taboo fetish or were always closeted gay and projecting. your dad is probably gay too
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>>7714417
chin implant

josh flagg got one if you want to google his before and after pictures
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Has anyone here tried AIPCTSHOP? They look pretty dodgy at first glance but I've heard good things about it.
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>>7714873
Nevermind, their payment just looks dodgy.
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Hi :o. Am I pretty?
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>>7715016
The non rotated version :O
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>>7715016
Very

You just need a daddy now princess.
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>>7715026
I have a daddy :o, I took this pic after I fapped in his lap to trap hentai :OOOO.
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>>7715016
So pretty! I'm jealous of your perfect smooth face with no shadow beard.

Also maybe it's me, but no abs in a boy makes him much better.
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>>7715016
Pls don't cut bbgirl
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>>7715016
OOOOOOOOO I'm a year older than pejic :DDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>7715016
>>7715020
pretty cu-oh shit
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How does /femgen/ deal with depression? I've shown my picture to two guys and both have said that I'm cute, but then I see pictures of stuff like this >>7715020 and suddenly I'm reminded I'm not actually cute and that my age is showing itself now.

Years of neglect by eating too many Doritos and mountain dew have done its toll on my body and genetics have fucked me over where stuffing my face hasn't, now I'm a muddled mess beyond repair.

I wont ever be a cute boy and living knowing I'm a pathetic washed up not-cute boy simply takes its toll on me.
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>>7715083
Thing is this is not a competition, we are not probably as cute as that guy, but there's a lot of ways on being cute.

I personally love nerdy bodies more than anything that's "perfect".
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>>7715020
>>7715016
>hairy
>emphasizing selfharm
>ugly face
Just wow
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>>7715097
I can understand for personality, but physicality there's that degree of 'he's pretty cute' because of femininity, smoothness, fitness etc. that plays its toll right?

You like the 'nerdy bodies' more for sure but your baseline of cute would still be the same smooth perfect skin that's slim, and with most of the people in this general, a heavy hatred for 5 o'clock shadow.

Plus, depending on how much of a girl you are personality wise when is it not a competition?
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>>7715111
Smoothness is not that important, the shadow can always be fixed and the rest is subjective.

The baseline can also vary a lot, people have different tastes and you should just cater to yourself with whatever you can work.

I don't understand the last phrase.
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>>7715083
It's something you can work on, I use to be a repressed nerd fapping to cartoon porn 4 years ago too. YOU JUST HAVE TO IGNITE THE LIGHT AND LEEEEET IT SHINEEEEEE.

proofs included
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>>7715209
And now :o.
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>>7715213
You are cute ngl
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>>7715213
How old are you? That's quite the change.
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>>7715169
>Smoothness is not that important
... Are you really saying that in /femgen/?

>>7715213
You're on hormones aren't you?

It's always hormones that makes boys cute.
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>>7715238
I'm 26 :O and proud of it :O. I hope I can look this kawaii til I'm at least 40.

I drawed a pictar of my daddy.
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>>7715240
There are more important things than smoothness.
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>>7715256
So. Hormones?
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>>7715240
Yes all of them, all the hormones.
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>>7715265
Like cuddling with daddy :o.
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>>7715297
Yep as expected. I keep saying hormones are what you need and everyone I know is like, "oh no you don't need those! just moisterize! pluck your eyebrows!"

Doctors wont give me shit here.
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>>7715303
:o don't moisturize ever, it'll fuck up your skin so hard in the long run. I did that shit for like a year straight, now I have exzema around my nose.
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>>7715302
interesting..

>>7715320
>:o don't moisturize ever
lmao wtf
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>>7715326
I must be too young to know what I'm talking about :o
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>>7715320
your body has self regulating mechanisms.
if you add oil to your skin then your body will temporarily stop making as much.
if you stop applying it, your body will start making it again to compensate for the loss, but there is a lag time.
you are in no danger of being "fucked up in the long run."
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>>7715320
ayyy lmao I gotta moisturize after shaving.
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>>7715353
- _ -, there is 0 reason to moisturize. Just avoid harsh climates, wear a scarf, eat your multi vits. And eat plenty of fried chicken, fruits and potatoms and drank the wagwa, also chocolatas are good.
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>>7715361
Hawt. Also from personal experience stay away from cyproterone acetate if you don't want to die and age really fast.
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>>7715386
I'm on Spiro so I think I'm good. I never new GOD gave so much good advice.
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>>7715367
idk I think winter is always going to be a harsh climate maybe it's different since you are near all those lakes and shit

also I'm pretty sure most of that is bs just don't shower everyday and moisturize after showering or shaving pretty simple

>>7715386
lol pretty sure spiro dries out your skin more than cypro since it's a diuretic
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>>7715418
Ehh I just drink a lot of water. Plus Cypro is harsh on the body, internally and externally.
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>Try to buy from InhousePharmacy
>All these payment methods and none I understand
>Bitcoin is confusing what the hell is this even I don't understand a thing
>Orbit Remit thing I've never heard on but just sounds like Paypal
>No paypal allowed but let's use Orbit Remit whatever the hell that is

At what point was it simply not meant to be jesus christ I feel like every corner I turn there's fucking shit going on.
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>>7715579
Buttcoins and crypto- currencies are a pain in general. It's not super hard, but its not like torrenting a game, by any means.
I will probably get yelled at by the pharma shills, but unless self meding is your only option, don't do it.
If you live in America find some where that does informed consent. A lot of planed parenthood have started doing this.
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>>7715083
this is what being a woman is all about, and you want to be a femboy right? all this whining about beauty standards wasn't a jewish plot after all
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>>7715701
I think it is my only option so I'm trying to work things out. The whole "you must provide photo evidence!" that I'm reading for some of these sounds sketchy as fuck.

>>7715714
>this is what being a woman is all about, and you want to be a femboy right? all this whining about beauty standards wasn't a jewish plot after all

I'm the worst type of 'femboy', the personality if a woman (including the bitchy childish behavior) without actually looking like one. Can't hate me for wanting to look the part now can you?
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>>7715579
just do e-check
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>>7715787
The only time I have heard of like that is blu check and that was when a friend of mine had to do that to buy e-cig stuff. Plus the point of crypto is to stay anon so that completely defeats the purpose.

Anon, even if you are in shitty part of Murica, there is still hope. Let me help youuuu. :3
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>>7715209
>>7715213
Very cute anon, and nice hair. I was the exact same being a bearded masc person before hormones, and now at 25 just got told recently when at the airport security "I thought you was under 18!". Theres a little bit of a stigma against hormones, but it literally preserves you.
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>>7715827
>America
Yeah nah, worse.

>>7715819
Literally no clue what that is. What does that come under in the site?
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>>7715973
>eChecks
Nevermind. US only.
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>>7715240
After Andrej im not gonna ever belive a cute boy's looks are natural. Any cute boy has sold his soul to keep his looks
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>>7715993
I'd sell my soul for that.
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>>7716011
Who are you kidding?
You don't have a soul.
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>>7715083
That person isn't really that cute though.
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>>7716060
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>>7715209
Haha we propaganda for future femboys now
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>>7716484

Go back to /cd/ passgen you disgusting tranny. Stay out of femgen
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>>7715083
do the best with what you got and dont worry about the things you dont have
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>>7698745
>>7699150

it fucks with bica too

someone should like.. put this in the pastebin or something
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>>7715701
can i get informed consent for being a reverse tranny?

I am a chad born in a autists body
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>>7716770
Chill out, some people would rather not get gross with age
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>>7707183
Cross-sex HRT can help with that, except for the height, but tall femboys are cute. FFS can be done if needed.
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>>7714122
I know; isn't it weird that reputable credit cards don't want to be involved with an illegal online pharmacy? Why could that be?
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>>7716961
Wait what. I think they help with ftm if that's what you are asking.
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>>7688392
is he natty bros?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2aBKnr3Ep4
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>>7717188
I didn't know places like inhousepharmacy were illegal, I just thought that it was illegal depending on the country. That they were a grey market, dodgy but still allowed.

In looking through my countries laws, buying stuff like Bica and every other Trans hormone is illegal as fuck, yet I see people having purchased from IHP for years and at most "They opened it up, inspected it and gave it the clear" even though it's illegal. What?

I don't know if I should be upset at my country failing to enforce its own laws or not.
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>>7718919
>I just thought that it was illegal depending on the country

As opposed to what? International law or something?
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>>7719366
I just mean like, what's allowed in the US may not be allowed in Europe or vice versa sort of deal.

Leave me alone I'm retarded okay?
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tfw birthday in february
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>>7716070
>yfw you're a fat bald finnish old man and still get to fuck prime boypussy
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>>7718803
>capitalism
When will this shitty meme end?
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>>7715213
Holy shit. Which hormones do you take? Those results speak for themselves.
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>>7719835
Probably the same as everyone else, but his natural genetics seems to have played a bit part in what makes him look so well now because he was a weak chinned looking betamax fag as a guy.
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>>7719864
6mg Estradiol oral, 200mg spiro oral morning/ night. Multi vitamins :o
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hey /femgen i'm getting my haircut tomorrow and i was wondering if anyone here has that image saved of 30 or so pictures of different hairstyles, I'm about to comb through the archives for it cause iirc I saw it posted here like less than a week ago. Thanks!
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>>7715213
cuuuuuuuuute!!!
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>>7719366
galactic law

interstellar trannies hate us for our freedoms

>>7719399
u r cute.

>>7719819
2032
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>>7715020
>>7715016
Silly femboy, razors are for your pits, not your wrists.
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>>7708743
It can cause infertility. It should work fine with SERMs.
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>>7709034
FFS can fix that.
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>>7709682
Qt.
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>>7710161
Why did you stop?
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So guys just wanted to let you know biccalcumide works amazing on restoring the dick. Just one week I can cum again and the orgasms are so much more intense also my facial hair is growing in slower which is so freaking awesome. If you are taking tranny antiandrogen stop now and switch shit is amazing.
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>>7720837
Does your general body hair grow slower too? Or just the face?
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>>7721036
Body hair is down as well shaved my legs and arms it's been a full week I'm also taking a low dose of cypro too. I'll post a pic later tonight but I think you guys are tired of my boi boobs and uggers face.
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>>7721048
>cypro
Oh, you had my hopes up. I'm just looking at Bica and Ralox.
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>>7720644

>Ywn have a rich dude finance ffs.

It hurts so bad.
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>>7721091
Oh I have been on every antiandrogen known to man only on cypro cause my body is dependent and I'm trying to wean myself off. Plus all those sweet changes came from bicca cypro was never that potent toward body hair.
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>>7710525
We identify as male, so we are femboys, not MtT.
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>>7710622
We femboys have dysphoria about having male secondary sex characteristics and not having female secondary sex characteristics. That is why we take cross-sex HRT.
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>>7711059
Androgyny is the future, you are the not intelligent one.
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>>7722182
he finally got someone
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>>7722189
it was only a matter of time
i like that poster though
hopefully they continue to bait in the future
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>>7713958
Having no sex hormones can also lead to adverse effects upon lipid profile (which can contribute to adverse cardiac events) and upon cognition. The raloxifene will stop the adverse effects upon lipid profile, mood, and cognition.
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>>7713985
The combination of bicalutamide and raloxifene was reported as being well-tolerated in males with prostate cancer. I would imagine that feminization would be considered an adverse effect for that patient population, so it likely does not have much effect. With regards to the brain, it adverts the adverse effects of having no sex hormones upon mood and cognition. The issue of sexual dimorphism by biology in psychology in humans is already a contested matter.
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>>7714022
The issue with the antiandrogen is not so much a matter of strength (both should be able to get androgen activation down to natal female, it's not like we are trying to treat prostate cancer or anything), but a letter of side effects. Bicalutamide is essentially just an antiandrogen, the other ones often bind to other things as well, where they can cause adverse effects. If cost is a concern, it is possible to buy one of the others and see if you get adverse effects, and only get the bicalutamide if you do.
>>7714022
>>7714027
Having no sex hormones is not guaranteed to cause adverse effects, but it often does. I would advise against that. The raloxifene should be able to do enough of the roles of estrogen to avoid adverse effects except for perhaps hot flashes, however.
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>>7714062
The raloxifene will activate some estrogen receptors in the brain, enough to avoid adverse effects of no sex hormones upon mood and cognition, but I do not know if it binds, and binds to the needed coactivators and corepressors, to regulate the sex hormone pathways, however.
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>>7714092
It will do what you need without adverse effects, although see my other comment if you are concerned about cost.
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>>7714167
It should be possible to essentially get a partial FFS, such to become androgynous.
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>>7715016
Very qt and pretty, with just the right amount of boi boobs, although the cuts are concerning.
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>>7715035
I am jealous of the trap as well, I wished I looked like that.
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>>7715083
You can try exercising and dieting, cross-sex HRT and FFS can help as well. Maybe see a psychologist if you have severe body image issues.
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>>7715240
>>7715303
You can try getting on cross-sex, buying them online if needed.
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>>7715297
Just wondering, what cross-sex HRT are you taking, and have you had FFS, or are using makeup, or are doing anything other than cross-sex HRT to look like that?
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>>7715107
i think it's someone just samefagging
at least i hope
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Progress with biccalcumide still need ffs bad should I do gay porn would that ruin my chance of moving up at n the company I work for cause God is it hard to save 15k.

Ignore my resting bitch face.
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>>7723212
*cross-sex HRT
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>>7720185
This one?
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Sometimes I feel like femgen is just a few people posting over and over. Like >>7721048 is obviously Holic and there's this anon >>7722168 who keeps calling it "cross-sex HRT".

>>7722156
>MtT
I snorted. Are we gender critical now?

Keep being excellent, femgen. I love you.
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>Still live with parents, 18, senior in HS
>Sister visits
>Forgets a pair of her sweatpants
>They're super small
>Decide to try them on because why not
>It's so fucking tight
>Most of my clothes are a little baggy cause I like having breathing room in clothes during the day
>Get rock solid
>Bottom side of me awakens
>Start taking tons of butt pics and fingering myself a lot more
>She'll never get them back, probably forgot she even left them
Can't wait to move out so I can get my hands on loads of girls clothes
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>>7724613
Biochem-anon here. What else would we call it, than cross-sex HRT? "Whoremoans" seems highly informal. :P
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>>7724613
Yes, we are gender critical now. The entire reason we are here instead of /mtfg/ is because we reject the libfem idea of gender identity.
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>be me, 23, with frame of a caveman
>wish to achieve androgyny, the most perfect form according to ancient Greek homos
>drop $100+ on meds from sketchy Indian pharmacy
>2 months later, still look like a neanderthal
>no changes except irreversible gyno

Is HRT just a really expensive meme?
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>>7725277
>>7725277
>>7725277

new one
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>>7724695
post the pics
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