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/mtfg/ - male to failed girl

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Fine I'll make the new thread edition

• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• Discord: https://discord.gg/qjxGSxY

Previous >>7685937
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>>7687323
yes
>-<

amazing girlfriend, supportive parents
im so happy i need to hugg someone

>>7687328
nice desu
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reminder that spending time in mtfg is one of the worst things you can do for your transition
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>>7687318
>Does your bf want you to chubb up?
I want to chub up for myself. I think it will help my passability and make me feel more confident about my body.

me pic related: >>7686028
I think with a bit more weight my angular features will soften and I'll look more like a girl.

But yes, L wants me to have more ass and I want to please him in that way. :)

>>7687322
my, oh my...... faye please

>>7687326
I've toured Thailand. Beautiful country. It was fun watching my bandmates reactions to seeing lady boys while I secretly knew I was a tranny lol.
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those look like ecstasy pills or something
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>>7687331
*hugg*
I'm really happy for you :3
Anna seems to feel much better as well :)
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I love my bf
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>>7687337
No they don't lol
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>>7687334
>I've toured Thailand. Beautiful country.
That's what I'm saying. I see no reason why they want to place us in Auschwitz.
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>>7687334
Which part of Thailand. I used to live in Phuket
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>>7687328
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uh, how do i respond to someone saying that I'll always be a man? continually hearing that from my mom has been pretty shitty.
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>>7687338
Yay thanks :3
And I think so too!
today is a great day
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>>7687346
say nothing
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>>7687341
I guess not with that line to cut them in half
they just look so much bigger than any of my girl pills! mine are all really tiny
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>>7687343
Stayed 2 weeks in Bangkok, 1 week in Chiang Mai, 1 week in Mahidol but moved around those places.

>>7687342
ye
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>>7687352
They are really tiny it's just a closeup shot
t. I made this OC
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>>7687346
>continually
that's harrassment.
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>>7687334
hey, sorry for asking more stuff about this.
i managed to find a voice therapist where i live and she is the only one who claims to have experience with voice feminization. anything i should look out for to know if she knows what she's doing?
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penis

>inb4 REEEEEEEEE
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>>7687363
it's nice
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>>7687334
>tfw no smol daughter to jump in your bed and snuggle you awake

I guess I'll just have to get up and make breakfast for 1

Life is truely pain
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How many genders are there?
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>>7687354
hi new best friend
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>>7687368
do you have one?
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>>7687371
2
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>>7687359
I saved it now that I know its elanna OC
:]
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>>7687354
Tfw tryin to remember my time there
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I really like the vampire snapchat filter
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I'm not a filthy transbian but
>tfw no elanna gf
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>>7687371
I unironically believe that there are more than 2 genders
male and female are the only 2 biological sexes, but you can exist somewhere in between the two
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>>7687371
One world.
One human gender.
One human race.
One nation.
One Führer.
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>>7687384
>that pic
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>>7687384
>not amphibian
reptilian detected
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>ask myrthe if she wants to go shopping for girlclothes when we meet up with her and anna
>she ignores me

i guess i'll end it
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>>7687369
Is Zheanna your new play toy?
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>>7687362
Uhm, hard to say with just text and conjecture. Really you'll just have to try it and if it doesn't help you, find something else.

>>7687369
oh my faye xd you are something else
>Life is truely pain
yes, yes it is, mommi.

>>7687372
did we just become best friends? hi!!!

>>7687379
:x
I played music and taught the whole time. It was niiceee.
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>tfw it will take at least a year to get on HRT if I go see a therapist right now
>tfw 21 already because repressing for too long

Might as well off myself, desu
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>>7687371
As many as you can socially construct
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>>7687391
>tfw no super dom bf to consensually bully me
:c
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>>7687333
Agreed
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>>7687396
it's just a prank bro i'm straight. :^)
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Günther is the new gender.
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>>7687397
yes but only if you enable me
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>>7687397
Everyone I knew still live there. Expats and their communities... ;~;
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>>7687400
diy?
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>>7687402
yeah
that's a good feel
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>>7687412
bad taste confirmed.
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>>7687387
beautiful
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>>7687412
is your bf drunk chaser?
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>>7687411
Pretty much impossible where I live ;—;
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>>7687408
I can enable you to gain weight, lead a mentally healthy lifestyle, and achieve your dreams!! :D

is that what you're looking for?

>>7687409
come to mention it, I did run into quite a few expats.
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>>7687407
how do i join?
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Many of you, guys, report feeling good on hormones.

How long does it take you to start feeling that?

And what is it exactly that feels good? Anything sexual?
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>>7687417
She still has a pure name though
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>>7687346
What reason is there to reply? Just ignore it
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>>7687418
not even ordering from abroad? sorry about that, anon ):
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>>7687417
mmmaybe
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>>7687416
thank you
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>>7687422
you'll be chasing that first estrogen high the rest of yr life
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>tfw coming out to friends on saturday
>tfw i'm was/am so fem that they already consider me a girl/faggot
time to be the tranny faggot they already expected
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>>7687396
Well right now she's more of an online game wouldn't you say
>>7687405
its just affectionately playing, there's nothing sexual about playing with your toys..
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>>7687428
interwrestling
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>>7687426
cute :3
when are you meeting up?
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>>7687429
me too
>>7687431
idk when it starts feeling good but it definitely makes me feel exhausted and irritable when i miss a dose of estrogen
i was on herbal stuff prehrt and i swear it made me feel different. i even had booby buddis coming in
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>>7687432
we already have twice
but in the summer
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>>7687429
Seriously, don't wait until they're making up girls names to call you, this has happened twice to me, you just end up having to keep track of different names
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still all fags I see
anyone killed themselves recently? (as in, the last 24hours)
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>>7687420
Uhh-sure. We'll use those are code words.
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>>7687346
Become more fem and more of a woman, eventually you break them
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>>7687430
pic related.

definitely NOT us
don't even think about it!!

>there's nothing sexual about playing with your toys..
>being reduced to a toy
<3_<3
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>>7687441
let's become friends
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>>7687447
I don't want to be your friend
I don't like you
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>>7687438
wait you've met up already?
h-have you done anything lewd?
i want to know all the juicy details!
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>>7687425
They'd probably disappear somewhere along the way and I'd get a hefty fine instead
Our package/import control is fascist af
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>>7687444
is that us mom
>>7687447
can i be yr friend?
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I'm finally starting to fool the machines
>>7687346
ignore them or this: >>7687443
>>7687422
took ~3-4 months for me
definitely calmer and happier than I use to be
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>>7687437
>it definitely makes me feel exhausted and irritable when i miss a dose of estrogen
maybe it's from antiandrogens.
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>>7687400
so stop putting it off and stop thinking your age is going to prevent you from transitioning successfully because you're still young and have a lot of room for changes to happen, besides there are girls that started much later than you and turned out completely fine.
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>Boymode with my jury group
>they know I'm a dude
>going by dead name because courts don't ask for a preferred name
>they don't know I'm trans, probably
>still get ma'am'd by one of them when I come in today
Wew
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>>7687442
yay for new friends. :DDD

>>7687453
>is that us mom
>mom
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
im a little
T_T
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>>7687422
definitely noticed a desire to like cuddle and be close to someone, which I never really felt before like 2 months on hrt
also definitely different feelings towards men than I used to have
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>>7687443
yeah, have been trying. will get my first feminine haircut and do my eyebrows at a salon soon, hopefully that will help a bit until the hormone changes are more visible
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>>7687453
you already are.
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>>7687456
>so stop putting it off and stop thinking your age is going to prevent you from transitioning successfully because you're still young and have a lot of room for changes to happen, besides there are girls that started much later than you and turned out completely fine.

sage advice coming from a... totally normal guy with no gender issues. :3
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>>7687457
thats gotta be a good feel :)
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>>7687456
Stupid chaser butthead you owe me a reply!
Oh you just did. Still posting this fuck you.
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>>7687450
u-um...he tried to kiss me, but I got scared
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>>7687438
Cute

>>7687457
Wear a qt dress next time
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>>7687455
definitely a lack of any hormone will do that ofc.
I used to have anger tantrums somewhat often prehrt. I used to feel the need to jack off every day. I don't feel like that anymore and that makes me feel good.
>>7687457
i want to fail boymodo like that
>>7687458
you are little
bitesized even
>>7687462
sick :D
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>>7687471
Is he handsome??
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>>7687459
the first one so much holy fuck.
like before i used to be grossed out with contact, now i want to cuddle almost everything that moves

>>7687471
aww
well understandable if you haven't known each other long
plus he's a guy and those are scary sometimes :s

>>7687457
hey gracey^^
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>>7687472
I'll wear one when I come back in the next couple months for my name change!
>>7687465
Mhm, it's been nice having boymode start to fail
>>7687476
Yours doesn't already? You look so much like a girl tho
>>7687478
Ey gurl
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>>7687444
Oh..yeah.. I can maybe try and think of something else and not think of that little one

<3
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>>7687463
what are you trying to imply, anon
>>7687466
S U C C M E
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>>7687479
how long did it take for your boymode to start failing? were you dressing kind of andro or just normally?
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>>7687456
Thank you for the kind words. I really should just go for it. Plus I get carded even when I'm buying cigs, and the age of legality is 18 here. That's gotta mean something, r-right?
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>>7687479
Hows your bf?

>>7687456
Burdu why are you here?
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>>7687457
Did you wear something cute?>>7687471
Boys are scary!
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>>7687479
what sort of case do you have?
have you convicted anyone?
jury duty sounds fun
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>>7687477
I think so
>>7687478
I just psyched myself out
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tfw want to cuddle with cute big boys
i miss my bff
*cries*
>>7687479
D:
angles
>>7687485
what r those
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>>7687478
>>7687459
>like before i used to be grossed out with contact, now i want to cuddle almost everything that moves
it's like the opposite of me now. i hate touch. that's why i like the internet, because nobody can touch anyone over the internet. i don't think i'm very low on estrogen or very high on testosterone, i guess it must be related to oxytocin or serotonin.

t. male
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>>7687491
Pots. $1000 each
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>tfw your add meds make your skin all red and blotchy
i guess it's okay if it's every once and a while
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>>7687482
First boymode fail I had was like 8ish days away from 1 year hrt
But then again I haven't been boymoding in forever
I only do it when I have to because of legal stuff
And now here at court I've been getting weird looks and gendered female at times
I've been dressing in my old guy fashion, baggy sweaters and tight jeans
>>7687485
About that...
>>7687486
No lol
Just andro clothes I guess
>>7687481
Stupid chaser butthead
>>7687487
Criminal
Deliberating on the verdict this afternoon
I know how I'm voting but idk about the others.
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>>7687492
were you the one who posted the original question about changes on hrt?
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>>7687480
> I can maybe try and think of something else and not think of that little one
reeee spank me mommi

>>7687476
>you are little
>bitesized even
yayyyyyy. :3
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the music in minecraft reminds me of when i was repressing, i had to turn it off
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>>7687497
>boymode fail
congratulations
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>>7687484
I mean, yeah, it'll only be easier for you if you're coming off younger than you already are, so see your therapist, get on skittles and be a happy girl.

and also stop smoking, it seriously fucks with your skin.
>>7687497
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>>7687480
that gif makes me feel things
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>>7687497
That's about as andro as zhennas boy voice
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>>7687499
yes. please, don't beat me.
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>>7687507
:|
hey now, I have a uber masc voice.

also you keep spelling my name without an A. :|
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>>7687422
alot of it has to do less with hormones and more to do with finally stopping agonizing repression and living as our real self. that leads to a lot of happiness not to have to play pretend and police our actions to not seem gay.

that being said, testosterone does cause increased aggression and anger so having nearly none of it in our bodies helps to even us out too
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Estrogen is Bestrogen
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>>7687495
why so fucking expensive
their smug aura mocks me
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>>7687497
i mean, no wonder your boymode failed. kind of unrelated, but what's your hair routine like? struggling a bit with mine
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>>7687490
hugg

>>7687492
im pretty sure being on estrogen makes you react more/differently to oxytocin and all that jazz. It's either that or dysphoria being reduced enough to not feel grossed out with yourself

>>7687497
cool
i want to be in jury too but we dont have that here i think T_T
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>>7687510
>stopping repression
i see
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>>7687509
what does your boy voice sound like?
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sup dudes :-)
i can only sleep for fuckin 3-4 hours at a time again. what's up with that man??
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>>7687520
here is my man voice: https://clyp.it/qtmup5yd
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>>7687508
lol um ok I won't
idk, if you wanna be a girl (or something like it) I would definitely highly recommend hrt
I've been enjoying the process
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>>7687512
Because its a rich part of town. I wonder where that nonbinary programmer went. Also selling for a $1000
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>>7687518
there's another trip here Amy that reported to feel tons happier after she stopped repression and hadn't even started hormones yet so there's some evidence to support it. i remember feeling like a weight was lifted off my shoulders after i came out to my friends and family
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>>7687522
hi sis, are at least feeling rested after those 4 hours?
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>>7687523
that's literally a girl voice
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>>7687523
wtf
you still sound like a girl
and here I thought I could potentially achieve something close to your girl voice with enough practice :(
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>>7687523
fuck, even your man voice sounds more feminine than my attempt at a girl voice
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>>7687530
STOP BULLY ME
ITS A BOY VOICE
:3
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>>7687503
Thanks!
>>7687504

>>7687507
Hahaha pls im an alpha male bro
>>7687513
I wash it like once a week. That's about it. Idk if steam helps or not cause I do shower just avoid washing my hair.
It's super staticy today but I'm due for a washing it tonight.
>>7687517
Move to the USA!
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I'm bored
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>>7687522
good to see you back. see >>7687113
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>>7687523
mommy boyo
can i have a tip or exercise for practicing today?
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>>7687527
I'm on hormones now :3
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>>7687522
It means ur evolving and can be hyper productive dude
I want this ability too tbhh
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>>7687538
no
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>>7687525
>definitely highly recommend hrt
>I've been enjoying
thanks.
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>>7687501
Okay but you better not like it, this is a completely platonic spank, I don't want you reading too much into it
>>7687523
https://clyp.it/hdyimnke
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>>7687537
i've actually considered this, but i'd only want to do it once i can get a decent job there. America sounds nice but i've heard too many horror stories of being poor in america.
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>>7687547
sounds like yr about to perpetuate the cycle
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>>7687523
Hmm
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>>7687529

naw i feel gross :-( idk. it's cool tho dude it'll pass. this happens to me sometimes idk why. and that's totally not a boy voice lmao
how are you btw?

>>7687539

loool dude what the heck. a meme in the making.

>>7687542

naw man i wanna kms cause i feel too tired to do anything lmao
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>>7687548
isn't europe the least wrong place to live at right now?
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>>7687535
Its about practice
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>>7687555
Angela merkle is unironicly the leader of the free world right now, so yes
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im mean
sorry
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>>7687562

that's not cool dude
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>>7687555
i feel like if you're rich america is more "fun" . Ofc living in a liberal area and all that jazz. Otherwise europe is probably better yeah
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>>7687563
Dude
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>>7687563
Hmm
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>>7687554
>a meme in the making.
that's me BTW.
i still like you BTW.
not offended by you liking 100% male men.
should i pursue transbians?
what if i remain male?
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>>7687553
:thinking:

>>7687554
>naw i feel gross
aww, I hope you start to feel better. Maybe a shower would help? That's what I need to do.

>that's totally not a boy voice lmao
reeeee, stop bully my man voice.

>how are you btw?
I'm doing pretty good. I have a nice amount of client work lined up for today. It's really cold here right now so that sucks. Also I had a dream where I had a party at my house for my friends. There was a closet called, "mtfg" and when someone accidentally opened it a bunch of trips including you popped out and started chilling.

not gonna lie u hooked up with a close friend of mine. dream edie had good taste tho LeL

>>7687533
>you still sound like a girl
no that voice is oozing with Testosterone and masculine aggression.

>and here I thought I could potentially achieve something close to your girl voice with enough practice :(
honestly you can!! Pitch is not the biggest factor in developing a female voice. Almost all male vocal types (bass/bari/tenor) can achieve an aggregate pitch zone that works as a female voice.

>fuck, even your man voice sounds more feminine than my attempt at a girl voice

:s

>>7687540
>can i have a tip or exercise for practicing today?
yes, make the vowel, "Ah" and slide it into an "Ee", focus on what your tongue and back of throat to do produce the sound of the "Ee".

Try to speak normally while holding a bit of that "Ee"

>>7687547
>this is a completely platonic spank
I wouldn't expect anything less when I misbehave, mommi. I have to learn somehow.

>https://clyp.it/hdyimnke
oh my.... your voice makes me feel funny.
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>>7687510
>testosterone does cause increased aggression and anger
*beats chest*
*slams ground*
ME MAN
CLUB GIRL WITH STICK
MAKE NEW WIFE
>>7687537

>>7687538
same
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>>7687565
Life is fun when you are rich anywhere because its about being the biggest prick in all routes of life or most wanted.
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>>7687571
birdy can you get me pregnant?
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What would my hair dresser be considered or closest matching identity? He identifies as a gay male and uses male pronouns to refer to himself but doesn't mind female pronouns if someone else prefers using those for him instead.

He isn't on hrt, dresses only in female clothing and uses makeup and all the other stuff women do. In public he is very gender ambiguous and its obvious that strangers have trouble gendering him.

Would he be considered a femboy or a crossdresser or maybe a non binary? He doesn't use the Internet much so all the newish identity labels he isn't aware of as far as I know.
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>>7687560
this

>>7687565
yes

which EU country is most trans?
any IRL trans communities to live in?
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>>7687566

dude

>>7687569

oh sup dude. idk man i mean you should pursue whoever you want. if they say no they say no.

>>7687570

idk maybe. i'll take a shower in a bit and see.
is your friend cute? ~_^
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WHAT IS THE BEST FIRST PUSHUP BRA FOR MEN
>>7687570
you already gave me that tip
i do it a lot to get started though :D
no more zingers?
just practice?
Have you been practicing singing lately?
I want to increase my pitch a lot more
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>>7687570
Hmm

>>7687579
Buy a bralett not a binder
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>>7687579
i just got a slightly too small push up bra from Walmart desu. since we have wide chests and boobs that are far apart I used the smaller bra to compensate and make fake cleavage. I'd say go as small as you can comfortably go and push your boobies together once you have it on
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>>7687576
>pursue whoever you want. if they say no they say no.
it's non-solution if everyone says "no":
straight trans, because my masculinity is not stable,
and transbians, because i'm male...

there must be some way to not be alone.
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>>7687575
i don't really know of any irl comnunities you can actually live in , but i haven't really gotten into the amsterdam lgbt community cus ive been here for like a week. On here Germany has a lot of trannies but germany has garbage trans healthcare, while netherlands probably has one of the best in europe. Generally idk abt communities, kinda looking for those myself atm.
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>>7687585

idk dude either you stay a male for life and date people like like men or you transition into a woman and date people who like women those are my thoughts
or just be like me and date whoever or nobody depending on your state of mind loll
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>>7687582
I want my boobs to look big
>>7687583
D:
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>>7687576
>is your friend cute? ~_^
He's p. cute, yeah. He has really sexy forearms.

>>7687579
that's the single most important small sentence I can write because essentially all of female resonance is locked away inside of the resonate spaces in your mouth. You need to learn and understand how to freely move your soft palate, where it is, and how it feels to use.

vowel shape controls formants 2 and 3 which are in our mouth.

If you want to expand your pitch range you are gonna have to do a lot of singing.

I'll send you an mp3 on Skype you can singe to as a range builder.

I've got zingers for days but it's hard to deliver proper advice without hearing where you are.\\

>>7687582
:thinking harder:
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>>7687586
>netherlands probably has one of the best in europe.
thanks.
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>>7687573
hmmm, maybe if I cum inside over and over enough times there'd be enough matter to form a child without the need for eggs

*club pretty new wife*
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>>7687596
>>7687596
>I cum inside over and over
mfw this will never be reality

why live
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>>7687593

dude how does one have sexy forearms dang i want sexy forearms lol
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Do not buy a push up bra because when you start transition it will bind your küçük memeler (small boobies) and they need to look nice and tidy while growing. :3

>>7687592
>>7687593
Hayir
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>>7687570
would you recommend slowly making your "normal" voice more feminine or just training your female voice while using the "normal" one?
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>>7687591
I prefer the option where you date straight people and confuse them
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>>7687596
>maybe if I cum inside over and over
f-fuck
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>>7687594
it still isn't the best. Selfmedding in the netherlands while waiting for a year to get your diagnosis is optimal tho, after that hrt, laser, speech therapy, mini-ffs, shitty euro srs and adams apple reduction are all literally free. It's also easy as fuck to change your birth certificate (you barely have to be on hrt lol) if its dutch
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yay~
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FUGG
>>7687554
oh
Damn dude
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>>7687591
>or just be like me and date whoever or nobody depending on your state of mind loll
you can only date others if others want to date you.

so the bottom line is that i can't have a partner until i make a definitive gender choice forever? it's not likely to help people like me to ever be anything other than cis.
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>>7687592
https://www.bustle.com/articles/183911-8-great-bras-for-wide-set-breasts-according-to-a-bra-fitting-expert
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So what will you do when Trump establishes his religious freedom EO?
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>>7687606
interesting option
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>>7687612
Its called a bralette, kucuk kizzim benim
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>>7687606
where's the sign up page for this
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cant wake up
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>>7687593
okie thanks
i looked up formants and got lost
>>7687602
>memeler
wha
does it actually mess with their growth?
>>7687612
thanks u
are you korra or someone else?
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>>7687606

tfw

>>7687610

rip loll

>>7687611

well idk dude if you're attractive you can date whoever now. it just might not end well based on the whole repression thing.

>>7687613

the same thing i've always done man idk lol
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>>7687621
I want Bacon.
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>>7687613
>So what will you do when Trump establishes his religious freedom EO?
become Muslim
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>>7687599
ᶫᵘᶜᵏʸ ᶠᵒʳ ʸᵒᵘ ᵈᵒᶦᶰᵍ ᶦᵗ ʳᵉᵖᵉᵃᵗᵉᵈᶫʸ ʷᶦᵗʰᵒᵘᵗ ˢᵗᵒᵖᵖᶦᶰᵍ ᶦˢ ᵒᶰᵉ ᵒᶠ ᵐʸ ᶠᵉᵗᶦˢʰᵉˢ
you wife now
me fill with love
>>7687607
oops
>>7687609
good girl amy
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>>7687600
bitch are you trying to tell me you don't lust over forearms?

>>7687604
Your "normal' voice will always exist and persist. It's a matter of learning how to use the instrument; your voice. Your female speaking voice should feel exactly like your male voice, just a little higher and with with a different tongue, soft palate, and laryngeal position. Controlling those resonator bodies will create the psycho acoustic effect which is perceived by the listener as a smaller cavity (thus female anatomy).

>>7687630
>you wife now
yay
>me fill with love
fill me with something else too
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>>7687623
Shes a woman therefore its true

>>7687625
Edie what advice would your mother give to trans babys who start growing small breast buds?
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>>7687608
wtf, you get all of those things for free there? living in a third-world country isn't that great, huh?
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>>7687613
Become a member of the church of Satan and use it as a weapon literally everywhere
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>>7687623
yep its me qt i wanted a new trip for the new year <3
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>>7687633
As in what sort of bra to wear
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why do i only like manipulative assholes?
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>>7687632

naw dude lol! i've never noticed idk

>>7687633

idk man why would i ask my mom to give people advice on stuff that aren't me lol
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>>7687641
Dude why do keep using dude, dude?
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>>7687635
yeah, after a year. What do you mean by third world country tho?
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>>7687632
thank you. sorry for all of the questions, don't really have anyone to ask about this irl, so yeah.
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>>7687632
>fill me with something else too
love had a dual meaning there, already planning on it ;^)
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>>7687644
dude, back off her, dude.
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http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2017-02-02/living-with-dyspraxia-see-life-from-joes-point-of-view/
a short news feature on dyspraxia, relegated to a small regional news channel about 100 people will see of course but yeah, just so you can see someone else with it and how it affects speech control and stuff

>>7687309
whoa that's fucking awesome, congrats :D
it's nice when you unexpectedly find someone to be in the know when you thought they weren't
I was at a trans support group last night talking to this one trans person, and normally at these groups the organisers don't like you talking about self-medding to cover their own butts (especially when there's legal minors present) but me and her ended up joking about QHI's ancient web design and stuff together, it was great
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>>7687641
Because girls need a mother to help them become the ladies they are inside
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>>7687647
lewd birdy
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>>7687625
>well idk dude if you're attractive you can date whoever now.
but you don't want to date me.
not pressing you into dating me, just pointing out a fact.
alright, i'll better quit molesting you now.
no ill feelings. you are fine person.
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>>7687653
Anon. How good are your social skills?
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>>7687632
my boy crush from highschool i used to work out with had HUGE forearms
he would focus on them more than anything else
He's the first guy i ever kissed (jokingly) and we cuddled a lot and hung out in our underwear a lot
>>7687637
<3
>>7687640
good question
>>7687650
i like that
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>>7687648
>her
They
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>>7687645
sorry, i meant that compared to that, where i live, which is in a third world country, feels pretty shitty.
>>
List top 5 passing trips
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>>7687644

idk dude i've been watching a lot of gaming streams and it's a part of my vocabulary now :-)

>>7687650

idk man that's not necessarily true. not everyone has a mom either so that's not cool. just let people do what they want imo.

>>7687653

because you'll end up transitioning!!
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>>7687636
logical solution, i must say
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>>7687651
I like this new lewd Birdy.
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>>7687656
>they
The pronouns are pi or za shitlord
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>>7687658
Ash
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>>7687644
she recently smoked weed. that's what it does to you.
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>>7687665

LMAO D U D E

>>7687668

i haven't smoked weed in weeks!!
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>>7687655
>HUGE forearms
yum, I love being wrapped up in strong forearms.
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>>7687660
I remember readin an article where a school board allowed churches to come onto school and hand out literature and bibles before class

The church of Satan prepared satanic coloring books for the elementary school and the whole thing got canned before the first day

The church is Satan is literally a tool for protection against the freedom of religion being used as "only Christianity gets free speech"
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>>7687657
oh yeah iktf,
i grew up in greece and i hear horror stories from there about shitty psychs gatekeeping you for years and years and then having to pay for hrt as well after a this.

at least in many third world countries u can get otc hrt :/
but yeah that isnt much, im very fortunate to be able to live here
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>>7687659
But muh advice and tidyer chest straps
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>>7687670
D U D E W E E D
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>>7687654
hard to judge. my skills seem very uneven. i'm very bad at social rituals but i'm very easy to talk to.
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>>7687665
So it's a no go on the whole servant-girl thing, Faye?
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>>7687675

it's nice but unneeded dewd

>>7687676

dang i want a watermelon
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>>7687659
>you'll end up transitioning!!
thanks :)
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>>7687676
i want a doggo
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>>7687497
wait fuck you're already 1+ yrs HRT? I remember when you first started, what the fuck
I've been here too long
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>>7687682
acquire watermelons
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>>7687608
how bad is the situation in germany tho? I don't think I can leave my hometown yet.
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I'm feeling so good today! I barely have any facial hair left that grows. I'm seeing the results from my previous lazer session and it got rid of more than any other lazer session so far.

I've only got like 15-20 hairs left on my upper lip, and just a few little patches left along my jaw!!

I honestly can't believe I got to this point after a year and a half of being so sad about my facial hair. It used to feel like a fungus that spread over my face that I had to rake off, only for it to grow again.
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>>7687673
>The church is Satan is literally a tool for protection against the freedom of religion being used as "only Christianity gets free speech"
It helps that satanism is technically a Christian denomination itself.
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>>7687685

np my man :-)

>>7687689

dude i want to lmao. it's my new quest line irl.
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>>7687694
you must go to watermelon cave and defeat 10 skellengtons and return with the cavemelons
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>>7687674
yeah, was recently able to go legit, but i think i only convinced my psychiatrist to send me to an endo by telling him i had already start it by myself. it's not cheap though, not to mention having to pay for almost everything.

can't complain too much though, i guess, at least i was able to start my treatment
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>>7687682
But bralettes dont bind like pushups which every single mtf ends up doing because its all they know and never go to a lingerie show because of embarassment foor being a boy lol I got asked to leave the womans changing room today because they realized i was a tranny dude but told them im not a man and they said ok lol
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>>7687696
>defeat 10 skellengtons and return with the cavemelons
tfw I could only find 9 skellengtons and wasted 30 minutes searching the cave only to realize I missed the one at the entrance.
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>tfw listen to the same albums so much that your mom starts to complain
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>>7687696

this needs to be a fuckin game lmao i would play this shit

>>7687698

well ymmv idk man
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>>7687691
congrats! planning on doing electrolysis after you're done with laser?
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Any transbians with cis gfs?Or have had cis gfs? What are your thoughts
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>>7687651
oh, should I not be :^)
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>>7687575
Norwich, the UK city I live in, has the highest per capita of trans people in the country
there's like 12 different trans support groups here and the city only has 130,000 people
way more femboys than usual too
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dang i always forget i'm an adult. like dude i could go and buy 3 watermelons and have them ALL to myself cause i live alone etc
that's what being a grown up means dude. buying all of the watermelons.
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why am i such a babby and a homo?? why am i only interested in people online? why do i always find a reason to dislike ppl irl?? why do i sabotage relationships?? why dont i trust you???
idk senpai im losin it
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Would you stay with a boyfriend that came out as transgender to you after a year of dating mtfg?

I would
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>>7687714
hugs for beep
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>>7687678
Oh no I'm still looking for someone I can complete dominate and make bend to me
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>>7687713
if you're rich
I know plenty of adults who can't even afford heated food :^)
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>>7687714

dude idk man you prob just have low self-esteem. so you don't understand why ppl would like you or value you and you think the ones that do are lying to you.

>>7687721

well watermelons are cold dude idk
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>>7687690
they ask for 6+ months RLE and only pay for hrt, maybe laser and maybe SRS? Not sure. Compared to the netherlands its bad.

>>7687697
damm, that sucks :/
I think you're right to complain, trans healthcare should be a basic human right. Where do you live tho, couldnr you selfmed if u have to pay for yourself anyway.
grats on starting tho!
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>>7687715
that's kind of hot >~>
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>>7687715
Sure unless their personality changes for the worse for some reason.
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>>7687713
Watermelons are off season, don't be a dummy
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>>7687723
you really cant be in a relationship until you have self love huh? rip my love life then
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>>7687714
You're thinking about it too much, just go over to someone you like and kiss them
>>7687715
Like this, this is a good way to do it
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>>7687720
>complete dominate and make bend to me
hngggh

>>7687713
same.

>>7687706
No I don't think so. Maybe if there are some spots that really bother me but I'm gonna see how much I can get with lazer first. I have 1 more session booked but I plan to pay for 1 more so 2.
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>>7687720
Das me.

And I'm kind of cute, too. But nowhere near as cute as you, so you get to feel superior to me too.
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>>7687729

dude.........................................way to crush my dreams

>>7687731

i mean it's hard to be in a healthy one if you don't my man. yyou still can be, it'll just be a bit harder.

>>7687734

finally someone who gets it :^)
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>>7687731
iktf
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>>7687731
You can enjoy someone before then, but yah if you want that super complete feeling, it takes both of your happinesses
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I am a 38 B
Is that pretty bad?
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>>7687715
i think so yeah, im pretty bi and it might be fun to help them :3
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>>7687744

no boobs are bad boobs dude :-)
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>>7687725
>they ask for 6+ months RLE and only pay for hrt, maybe laser and maybe SRS?
i haven't had any RLE with my therapist. it's not necessary for the insurance.
hrt, electrolysis, srs, voice training, boob job (if you're below an a or b-cup according to my therapist), adams apple reduction (if it is extreme) and maybe some other stuff is being covered.
in what ways is the netherlands so good? don't know anything about your country in that regard.
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>>7687720
>whiny emotional sub pretending to be dominant
cute
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>>7687747
what about hairy moobs
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>>7687640
Because your mom is one and you have an unconscious desire to be abused
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>>7687747
D:
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>>7687752

if you don't like hair on them then shave them dude lol

>>7687754

be kind to ur chest it's the only one ya got
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>>7687658
Not me lol
>>7687714
Same maybe rip
>>7687715
No
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>>7687758
what about clean shaven moobs
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im here to blow up /mtfg/
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Tell me boob growth stories pretty please, mtfg
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>>7687751
I just want a pretty mtfg girl to boss me around and make me do her errands and cleaning, is this so much to ask?
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>>7687714
i feel this irl
i know how ya feel beepy
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>>7687758
>be kind to ur chest it's the only one ya got
thanks I will give my bewbz and love embrace right now to let them know how thankful I am for them to grow and exist.

:3
ily bewbz
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how do I uninstall crippling_depression.exe
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>>7687762
mine have been itchy the last few days
the end
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>>7687760

sounds cool dude!

>>7687761

about time man lol

>>7687762

one day my boobs started to grow. they were so ugly that everyone died. the end
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>>7687745
i consider myself mostly straight but in a situation like that I wouldn't want to throw away an entire year over him wanting to be she instead.

It would take a little adjusting at first but since he would be worth it I would do my best to support it
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>>7687768
realize that it's just a meme
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>>7687725
brazil. was able to self-med for a few months before finding an endo who has experience with this, which was also surprisingly difficult.
thank you! it was more difficult than I would have liked to get started, but it's been completely worth it
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>>7687733
literally shut up
>>7687738
like its so easy to just go hang out w a friend and suck their dick if i wanted so but i dont really care for that im lame af and just want loving long term stuff and a shared future
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>>7687762
Mine didn't grow much after 5 months. I mean I was flat before and now I have little moobs, but they still don't look like real girl boobs and they aren't sensitive either.
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>>7687761
reportedtoFBI.jpg
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>>7687772
everything is a meme u dip
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>>7687769
>>7687770
bad girls
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>>7687761
Maltov cocktail buddies
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>>7687748
no RLE? that's weird, i'ce heard you need rle pretty much always there.

well if thats the case then its comparable i guess, sounds the same as what we have here

>>7687771
idk, if i we're straight idon't think i'd want to
>>7687773
oh, does brazil have a lot of trans?communities?
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>>7687751
I'm only as sub or as dominant as my partner

d.desu
>>7687734
>tfw you put thoughts in zheanna's head that she will think about later with her boyfriend

I like leaving a mark
>>7687735
It's not about cuteness or superiority, it's about your submissiveness fueling my want to dominate you, so are you a good girl?
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>>7687725
>>7687748
so it depends on your doctor I guess. probably none of them are close to me because I live in a bumfuck nowhere town.
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>>7687774

well idk dude you prob want a loving long term relationship cause (besides being rewarding) they're pretty validating in your worth as a person
i'd imagine you like the idea of someone wanting to be with you all of the time because it tells you that you're worth being around and ppl want to stick by your side
and it's better to be happy on your own as well as happy with someone without needing the validation relationships bring :-)

>>7687783

nuh uh
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Lol it's weird when you want to eat or drink away your sorrows but a sudden depressive mood onset kills your appetite even though you haven't eaten in a couple days rip lol rite
>>7687768
Death helps
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is it gay to want to be a girl y/n/l(lil bit)
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>>7687789
edie i saw yr bunkhole online
i know yr naughty
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>>7687794
not if you are a girl
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>>7687794
/
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>>7687762
i started hrt at the end of summer. after 2 weeks my nipple started to get really puffy and tshirts wouldn't conceil them anymore. at the same time summer suddenly decided to get warm and wearing more than a tshirt was suffering.
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>>7687785
It really depends apparently. My endo requires RLE.
And the things that are covered depend strongly on your health insurance and how much you want to fight with them.
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>>7687785
where i live there's just one support group, so that is better than nothing. iirc most of the trans related institutions are in the biggest cities. apparently we even have a facial team clinic here, which is quite exciting.
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>>7687794
lil nim
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>>7687794

gay is ok my man

>>7687795

dude
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>>7687794
it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to NOT consider it gay
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>>7687774
That's not lame, love. I think it's cute and healthy. You deserve someone who loves you. You'll find that person eventually. You are still young and changing daily.

>>7687787
>I like leaving a mark
spank me harder and leave a mark, mommy.
choke me into submission yeee
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>mfw beep tells me to shut up
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>>7687787
I'm extremely obedient, yes. An intelligent, well-groomed woman is hypnotic to me.
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>>7687787
What up Habibi
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>>7687797
>>7687798
>>7687804
>>7687805
>>7687806
this isn't y/n/l tho
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>>7687812
/ literally is in y/n/l twice
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>>7687812
Y
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>>7687799
iktf
i wore sweatshirts and dress shirts through out august
>>7687812
l
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>>7687785
>>7687788
it depends on your therapist. if he's up to date with the standards and writes you the letter then you should be good to go. i told mine i'd feel uncomfortable going out in womens clothes while looking like a man and he said that's fine.
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>>7687794
yes it's gay and you'll be considered gay for doing it but that's okay there's nothing wrong with being gay

>>7687785
idk maybe it's mental gymnastics but it's like a cis girl having her bf transbian and she decides to try and make it work bc she loves the person and even though he's becoming a she they still have that special connection. but it may just be me being delusional
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>>7687774
iktf. maybe something good will happen this weekend~
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFrYcVcsoMo

N-NO SPARTAN
STOP ENJOYING IT
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>>7687792
I've gone pescetarian and I've never had so much energy in my life
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>>7687811
I'm thinking about getting Chick-fil-A because I have no one to try to be 120 pounds for
>>7687812
Gender is not sexuality nim nim
>>7687807
making demands? That's another spanking, we'll get to it when I'm ready...

How do you feel about blood chokes
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omg you guys were you supposed to say it wasn't gay
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>>7687807
i thought i was working toward that but im just being played with by someone who is indifferent to me
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>>7687827
lil beepboop
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>>7687826
nim its ok to be gay :)
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>>7687826
idk if we were
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>>7687800
oh, well here the law requires every basic insurance to cover all of those things

>>7687801
oh sweet. I'm kinda looking for communities here, but surprisingly there aren't very many :/
also facial team is good, for me barts clinic is like an hour away by car which is neat :3

>>7687817
oh, ok. i guess that's good. RLE scares of a lot of ppl

>>7687818
idk, it just doesnt sound like that would be a fullfilling relationship though, sexually at least.
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>>7687831
stop saying that :(
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>>7687827
>when someone literally breaks your heart
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>>7687826
To the general public there aren't many things gayer than living as a woman when you were born a man. You need serious psychiatric help to get over yourself and your rampant homophobia (in before "it's ok to be gay if it's someone else").
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>>7687825
Faye?

I'm... I'm a good girl...
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>>7687800
>And the things that are covered depend strongly on your health insurance and how much you want to fight with them.
not really. the medizinischer dienst makes the guidelines the KK are following.
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>>7687827
Damn :(
Honestly I know the feel. Opening yourself up to someone is one of the best feelings but also opens you up for a lot of hurt.

>>7687825
>demands
Oops, I got ahead of myself, mommi please forgive.

Blood Chokes? What's that lol sounds scary desu
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>>7687837
I think at this point nim is 50% memeing about asking if stuff is gay or not
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>>7687809
>Thinking beep is a sub.
Habibi please.
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>>7687824
I've gone starving lol
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>>7687841
Huh, that's nice. I hope I'll ever get official so I can get all of those things for free, except for maybe SRS and ffs, which might be better to to in another country if I want that.
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>>7687844
>habibi
where does that come from? I only know one other person who uses it
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QHI shipped my shit on monday

how long do u think the ETA is in finland
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>>7687842
It's really simple you just lightly press on either side of the neck, and then watch the other person slowly drift out of consciousness in a few seconds, it's far safer then an air choke but has a similar feeling without cutting off oxygen or carrying too big of a risk
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>>7687826
what's wrong with being gay?

>>7687833
well she would presumably still be the dominant top but of that changed then yeah we would have to break up :(
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>>7687855
I think it's about 2 or 3 weeks almost everywhere
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>>7687835
ITS OK NIM
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>>7687825
Wtf Habibi? I've been eating like one meal a day and working out and you're going to slack off with some alt-right fried chicken place?

Nothing tastes as good as thin feels.

Also, imagine the glorious shitposts you'll be able to achieve.

Your "I'm a boy" shitpost will hit peak cognizant dissonance amongst n00b5 and oldposters alike.
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>>7687864
no cuz if you keep saying it it'll start to become a thing everybody does and i already said its okay for everyone but me
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>>7687865
>chick fil a
>alt right

????????????????
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>>7687853
FFS isnt covered here anyway and SRS in Germany is really bad from what I heared except if you go to Munich or maybe Essen.

You can work on going official while selfmedding. Thats what I did.
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>>7687862

im a bit spooked tho for potential doc checkups tho

like when i go to my rheumatologist they might lift up my shirt a little to check my heart sounds and what the fuck do i do if they notice me having big ass boobs
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>>7687854
Hb to love
Habib - love (n)
Habibi- my love (male)

She basically just called me her boyfriend, if she was male it would be her bro in context
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what's it called when you just want to date a cute guy who plays video games with you and has a nice voice that you occasionally cuddle
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>>7687872
a doodily doo
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>>7687867
please please don't get her talking about it
do you really expect a reasonable answer?
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>>7687837
it's been deeply ingrained on her psyche and she has an overly aggressive extreme homophobic mom that reminds her daily of how morally unacceptable and disgusting it is to be gay give the poor girl a break that is a long road to recovery that she has considering its been bashed over her head since childhood :(
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>>7687850
Lol why? What about glorious tacos.

>>7687854
It's a gift from Allah (glory be upon Him) to trigger autistic responses
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>>7687870
thanks now alot of chats make way more sense.
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>>7687869
Don't worry about that if you ever get "big ass boobs" you'll probably be fulltime
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>>7687879
yeah well its gonna be a problem when on paper it reads "18 year old male"
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>tfw get super excited over first real girlmode outfit

SOON hihi :3
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>>7687881
Yeah that sucks, but they most likely don't care. Changing your name and sex officially is the only solution for that.
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>>7687833
support group has been really hit-and-miss, but meeting other people around my age who went/are going through similar stuff helped me a lot. found the one i went to just by calling a bunch of hospitals and asking if they had something like that.
woah, that's great! seems to be one of the best out there.
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>>7687870
Fuck I forgot about gender in arabic. What was the feminine form of my love? Habibti?
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>>7687881
No one cares dear it's not that big of a deal, what your feeling is internalized shame, but doctors have seen girls before

If you feel self conscious just go to a woman's clinic like I do, they'll see you as a guy with minimal explanation
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>>7687889
Muh habibti ;)
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>>7687876
Cause I have no appetite and I want to shrivel up into a husk and dissipate lol
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SO /MTFG/

WHO OR WHAT IS KEEPING YOU ALIVE????!
i.e. Why haven't you killed yourself yet? Lolol
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>>7687887
oh, well here theres one but meetings are once every 2 months :s
plan is to go there and meet ppl and do shit with them outside of that
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So I found a doctor that allegedly prescribes HRT to trans patients. The only problem is I don't have medical insurance and have no clue how to approach this.

Can I pay out of pocket if I don't have insurance? How do I schedule an appointment? Will I have to visit a psych too?
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I am technically in between 36D and 38B
shit is confuzzling
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>>7687896
cuz my budd merc
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>>7687899
Just call the office and ask them all those questions, telling them what you told us
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>>7687870
Okay, well, I'll be around if you want me, Faye.
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>>7687885
Beep I think you kinda misunderstood me, it breaks my heart to see you upset, and when I say things like I need a job and to move and surgery before I see someone new, It's not me talking about how I'm making plans after my life falls apart, but what I need to do to feel like I'm worthy of having anyone

I have huge self esteem issues, and I don't want to see you, who I really care about, have them as well, I want to see you grow and be happy because you're a nice person who I empathize with and see myself in
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>>7687896
I don't wanna.
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>>7687901
Oh wow
I don't want that responsibility depending on me to keep you alive is a bad idea
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>>7687896
spite
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>>7687896
a little bit of hope maybe? and now a girl friend i know from school who has been incredibly accepting and supportive. but we'll see how long until i fuck it up.
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>>7687896
there's a girl I'd like to know better and I still got money to burn.
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>>7687908
keep me alive buddi!

don't want my death on your hands :^)
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>>7687896
transitioning keeps me alive
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>>7687886
>>7687889

for some reason im inclined to believe that any self respecting medical professional would ask the question "have you noticed that you have breast growth"
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>>7687900
That's the same size different band, if 36 is smol, go to 38
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>>7687896
that sweet sweet estrogen
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>>7687914
RIP the two buddies nim and Mercury lol
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>>7687896
animals and nature
>>7687914
u make me laugh a lot buddi
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>>7687918
They don't, you walked in there with big boobs, it's nothing new

If you walk in there going OMG I HAVE BOOBS NOW then they'll investigate
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>>7687922
r-really o//o
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>>7687896
I have a wonderful girlfriend now :3
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>>7687921
pat gravestone
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>>7687924
the big boobs was a hyperbole tho

i mean, budding conetits would be an awkward af situation
>>
i really want srs
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my throat is sore from voice training :(
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>>7687934
it hurts tho lil isl
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>>7687919
im 37
a lot more options are available for 36D
do you think much could go wrong if i go with the smaller size?
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>>7687931
>gravestone
Who would pay for me to have a gravestone ;-----;
maybe my family would have me cremated and put in a urn if they care enough to claim my body.....
I'll pay ur gravestone though
It can say
"Rip to best buddi nim"
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>>7687897
that's unfortunate, hope you'll find some nice people there! didn't make any friends there, but I'd imagine it's a good way to find people to help buy makeup and clothes. shit's scary to do by yourself
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>>7687932
>hyperbole
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>>7687940
What size are you Faye?
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>>7687940
mommi
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>>7687938
ill pay for a mausoleum for you budd
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>>7687940
ugh if i'll have to carry around jugs like that i'd be fucked
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>>7687896
MY LOVE FOR ANNA AND MY NEED TO BECOME A GIRL
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>>7687911
that's good, have you gone shopping with her? my cis friend has helped a lot with makeup. hope things go well for you, anon
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>>7687896
im not really sure to be honest
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>>7687938
i'd want to be cremated anyway
wouldn't want my bones to clock me :s

>>7687939
i can do clothes easily now
i still need to woman up and get makeup and stuff :/
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Does tucking reduce testicle size over time? I have been tucking with very tight panties 24/7 except for showering. I just want them to dissappear. Ugh
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>>7687952
makeup is hard and nerve wracking and first and you have to get it wrong a few times before you get it right but there are ALOT of good online tutorials and sephora teaches alot of useful stuff in person too
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>>7687949
yeah, i did. she was really helpfull. gone with her to zumba too but it made me really dysphoric for a couple days afterwards. my therapist still wants me to go there for learning female posture and all that stuff and doing something but i'm not sure, i don't want to feel that bad anymore. any thoughts?
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>>7687954
anti androgens do
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>>7687956
i just need to go and see what color foundation i need, i cant even do that :/
im not planning to use too much of it anyway
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>>7687952
hah, i'm the exact opposite. for some reason i've managed to buy makeup in physical stores without any issues, but clothes are tougher. bought some leggings last week though, so that was a start!

>>7687956
do you mean just the free makeover they offer or the one where they walk you though the process and you get the 100 bucks or whatever in products?
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>>7687959
Im on those but they didn't effect my size
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>>7687943
34D I went down a bit, or like somewhere between D and DD now that I got fat again
>>
I used to sleep in my dogs bed with my dog when i was 5
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>>7687962
cypro made my tumors tiny.
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>>7687946
Nah just toss my corpse in the ocean or some ditch somewhere, it's not important
>>7687952
>wouldn't want my bones to clock me :s
Lmaoo
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>>7687958
i guess trying it again wouldn't hurt? but it just depends on what made you dysphoric in the first place
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>>7687947
Yes they get me fucked quite often
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>>7687962
>>7687965
cypro definitely shrank mine too
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>Tfw back at zero
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I love you guys. No homo
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>>7687969
idk seeing all those girls and then seeing myself in the mirror really hurt :/
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>>7687961
nice! how did you get the confidence to get makeup tho? First time i went to get clothes i could just pretend to myself i was shopping for my girlfriend. After thqt it got easier, onky wear girlclothes niw except my coat, but still no makeup. How did you do it?

>>7687964
cute
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The trenders have won
Everyone at work has been using gender neutral terms sarcastically and laughing about it.
I get called they and them and people ask me my name because they're confused.
:/
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hi
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>>7687960
the first time is the scariest bit it's worth it. and there's so much makeup you can use for the no makeup nautral look. I think as trannies we can't really afford not to wear makeup since unlike cis girls we have clockable features that makeup can mitigate or outright hide

take a friend with you if it's too frightening to go alone

>>7687961
it's 50$ for a full makeover and you keep whatever they use on your face. worth it for the lesson imo.

>>7687981
your boymode is failing
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>>7687981
climb on them like a monki to get them to stop
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>>7687982
yo
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>>7687981
omfg what is this gif
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>>7687988
parabola music video
>>7687984
ok
>>7687983
i don't think so desu
>>
i just ate some chocolate
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>>7687993
yo you wanna go shopping for clothes and makeup with anner when we go for sush?

>>7687983
ok lets see if this works :3
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>>7687982
Hi Myrthe~

>>7687993
That's nice, I wish I could eat some chocolate too, but I'm not allowed to eat, because I get my blood tested tomorrow morning and I already brushed my teeth now…
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>>7687991
its not really up to you to decide if it's failing or not. based on your story it sounds like it is and people are taking notice
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>>7687998
go to bed now cutie :3
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>>7687872
b l i s s?

>>7687896
wanna build first conservatory of arts on in Martian colony.
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>>7687896
I'm more afraid of killing myself than I am of my current circumstances.

Things might get better too.
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>>7688002
Okii~
Nini, Rini <3
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>>7687979
i get you. you could just talk to her about it, maybe go somewhere you feel more comfortable first, then start working your way up? just a suggestion

>>7687980
I'd recommend going into the store knowing exactly what you want to buy, grab it, pay, leave. If you don't want people to see you looking around, you could just write down a list with all of the products or show the employee a picture of what you want on your phone.
In general, I think what helped me the most was just convincing myself that people really don't care what you buy. The employees, the other people in the store, they don't really care. Although that sounds negative, it helped me stop caring a bit about what others were thinking.
Don't know if that made much sense, you can try just buying stuff online as well.
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>>7688007
sleep tight :3

>>7688008
i understand but
my issue is i need to see what color foundation is appropriate for me
this means trying shit out in the store T_T
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is 42$ way too much for a bra?
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How do I become a respectable and graceful lady?
>>
What month do you go from 4mg to 6mg estrogen?
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>>7687983
Thinking of trying that right after the store opens or something, so it'll be as empty as possible. Anxious about going in boy-mode, I know makeup stores tend to be good about stuff like this, but still
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>>7688017
start sucking dicks
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>>7688021
there are no knights to succ.
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>>7688017
look at what elanna's doing

then do the exact opposite of that
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>>7688008
>maybe go somewhere you feel more comfortable first
i don't understand, you mean go to a different zumba studio or do something else with her? i'm doing the latter tomorrow. she invited me over to hers to watch a movie. i should talk to her about it i guess and i told her how i feel about my body already but i feel like if i outright say i am jealous of girls it's just too much crazy if that makes sense?
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>>7688008
I remember you! You're that anon I helped! glad to see you realized that alot of thr anxiety about buying girl stiff is mostly based on our insecure projecting :] >>7688016
yes way too much. I spent 10$ on mine at Walmart. some older obese lady asked me to help her check her bra tag the last time i went

>>7688017
work hard at it and practice daily

>>7688020
that's a good idea. again though makeup stores are extremely lgbt friendly and gay guys buy from there regularly.

i mean when u think about it when we boymode we're basically indistinguishable from gay guys to cis people any way. . .
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>>7687940
Absolutely wild. A rugged man with the nicest tits ever.
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>>7688029
i meant doing something else. considering you said she was supportive, she will more than likely understand what you mean
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>>7687963
Oh
That's cool
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>>7688026
Wow rude
Apologize
>>
dude i kinda wanna talk to my SD about quitting camming lol. should i?
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>>7688031
>practice daily
practice what though?
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>>7688031
yup, that's me, should probably get a trip.
yeah, really surprised with how much stuff I've managed to do these past couple of weeks. going shopping with my cousin this weekend as well!
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>>7688050
>>7688021
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>>7688046
there's a weird trend going on where every overwatch character is drawn slightly darker than they actually are
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>>7687997
sounds like a nice idea c:
i wonder if the makeup available over there differs much from here

>>7687998
Hiya

Oh, that really sucks ;-;
Good night, though!
>>
>>7688044
i'm sorry you all have to put up with elanna
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>>7688064
I like elanna she's cool
>>7688046
Yeah man go for it
What's the worst that could happen?
He'd probably support you financially for a bit anyway wouldn't he?
Why you wanna quit camming?
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>>7688057

sounds like me and foundation irl dude lol. i'm lowkey sombra tho so it makes sense
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What is this nice feeling?
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>>7688036
you're probably right. thanks for the advice :)
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>tfw haven't done anything productive today
wew
>>7687715
i'm bi so it wouldn't really matter to me, but yeah i'd stay with them
>>7688017
practice mannerisms and such i guess
>>7687964
that's adorable desu
>>
the vast majority of the songs i listen to use a lot of words like her and she

is it a coincidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg
>>
Tfw u took hormones to fit in but still can't fit in :^)
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>>7688050
practice general girl stuff and going out in public and presenting female until that's comfortable and normal to you. practice

>voice
>posture
>mannerisms
>fashion
>makeup

until you feel you have a firm grasp on all of it and you get consistently gendered female and can use female restrooms hassle free

once all that is down then start working on yourself as a person practice being approachable and having a friendly non threatening or standoffish body language so that people aren't apprehensive about just striking up random conversations with you if ur waiting in line or something (smiling often helos alot)

do u have a job or career plan? get a 5 year plan and work on steps to accomplishing your life goals. don't just stagnate always be working toward something to better yourself

>>7688053
proud of you anon keep pushing forward :]
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>>7688076
like come on
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>>7688072
It means you're a tranny and your body loves estrogen
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>>7688069
I can get sombra, she's southamerican after all, but why do they draw tracer and mercy brown? it makes very little sense to me
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>>7688064
Me too thanks
>>
who here /hugg machine/
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>>7688067

well the supporting financially thing is why i'd talk to him. idk man i'm just over it loll

>>7688079

iktf dude lol

>>7688086

idk man i don't pay attention to the lesser OW characters
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>>7688090
head pat little frangi
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>>7688046
what's an SD
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>>7688091
Yeah may as well worst he could do is say no
>>7688096
Sugar daddy
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>>7688087
do you have an alarm on your PC that goes off every time someone says your name or something?
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>>7688090
lil bit
but i've nobody to hugg!
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>>7688098
I don't her you were talking shit about her
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>>7688098
No, I'm on break right now and you were talking about me
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>>7688101
**TOLD HER
FUCK
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>>7688101
snitches are lower than the belly of a snake

expect mean (you)s in the future

>>7688104
hopefully it's a short break and your boss makes you stay late, cumfarts
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>>7688100
*hugs u digitally*

>>7688095
uwu thanks Star
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>>7688107
Such a cute little tsun tsun~
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>>7688109
i am not cute, i am the person who's going to keep bullying you until you're a broken mess, you sexually-confused freak

you have good reason to fear me
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>>7688109
lanibreak
>>
i have tendies in the oven if anyone wants some
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>>7688123
do you have barbeque sauce
>>7688108
huggu
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>>7688107
I can't get stiches if you can't find me :^)
>>7688120
Hi
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>>7688129
heyo!
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How long did it take you to stop internally referring to yourself as a male and switch to calling yourself she when you initially started transitioning (social or physical)

Follow up question how long did it take for hearing other people gender you female to stop feeling strange ie thinking

>she

whenever someone called you by girl name or pronoun.

it took me around 3ish months to adjust to it and start thinking of myself as a woman for reals even if my outside didn't match it at all yet
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>>7688131
duckduck
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>>7688128
ya
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>>7688132
lol i dont think i deserve to be called a she
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>>7688132
>How long did it take you to stop internally referring to yourself as a male

like 4 years and counting

>>7688135
heyo!
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>>7688132
um im three months and i feel like an idiot calling myself a girl
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i bought cheap pushup bras and i'm gonna try to do stuff
bye friends
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>>7688142
hi hru
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>>7688129
>I can't get stiches if you can't find me :^)
i've got shakira working on it round on the clock

i promised she could have you first
>>
i think beeps lost it...
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>>7688147
Just kill me; you'd be saving yourself time and me money and my housemates cleaning supplies
>>7688131
How're you today?
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>>7688141
why is that anon? you're not a counterfeit or a female impersonator you *are* a girl. is there something preventing you from accepting that?

>>7688142
even though you disagree I think you're a beautiful woman inside and out despite your issues <3 ur my fave little sis :3

>>7688143
why is that?
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>>7688132
I'm about 3 months and whenever I drop something or mess something up or whatever I almost always still think "oh come ON dude"
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>tfw it's been over 24 hours since when it seemed like Fire Emblem Heroes would be released and it's still not available in NA
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>>7688132
internally it took me about 5-6 months on hrt, so around October. It was pretty much a progression of Guy->Neutral->Girl when referring to myself internally
Not out yet so I can't really answer the second question, but my best friend refers to me as a girl but that doesn't really count
>>7688123
gib tendies
>>7687713
being grown up is crazy, thinking about all of the shit I could just do is pretty nice sometimes
>>
>>7688138
alright this is shaping up to be a solid tendie sesh
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>>7688159
because i dont look like one and no one treats me like one

maybe it'd feel different if i had family supporting me but it's easier to doubt yourself when you're going at it by yourself
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am i a girl yet
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>>7688132
Online: maybe about 3 months
IRL: Never, I feel fucking stupid calling myself a girl when I look nothing like one.
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>>7688162
whats wrong with that

i mean saying shit like oh fuck man is normal
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>>7688162
dude is petty gender neutral miss

>>7688170
how does it feel when you're friend uses girl name and female pronouns?

>>7688173
is it possible to be out to anyone irl? onoije support friends help but irl has more impact i think

>>7688174
yes :3

>>7688178
it's harder to accept pre and early hrt. I remember the cognitive dissonance I had looking in the mirror and saying my girl name and she. but it does get better in time and if you practice it
>>
Im a DIY, Im taking 6mg E with no AA, i first consulted a trans pharmacist (good friend of mine) and told me it was possible, at the same time, I consulted through the net and most people say its "good" (obviously not as much as if I did take AA) but like 5% ppl say it will raise my T levels so infinity and beyond, what do you know about this?
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>>7688146
>>7688158

I had the most productive day.
I slept like 3 hours, got up at 7 am, went to uni wrote an exam, had a few hours of class, and then gave a 90 min presentation.
now I am tired and will probably try to sleep soon
gotta get up at 7 tomorrow

>>7688159
aww <3
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>>7688132

i still call myself a guy in my head sometimes and i've been at this for almost a decade lolll

>>7688170

righttttt

>>7688162

dude i call everyone dude it's gender neutral my man
>>
http://m.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2067457/steve-bannon-were-going-war-south-china-sea-no-doubt
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>>7688147
Lol. I'm no-longer tracking down Mercury for ritual sacrifice, my altar wants Juniper's blood now.
>>
>>7688187
thanks!
:3
>>
>>7688196
Can you please stop posting these stupid links ffs
>>
>>7688187
no the only family i have here is my mom and i don't have any friends
>>
>>7688196
Why do American presidents insist on going to war with angry Asians armed to the teeth with nukes?
>>7688204
Don't run away from it, this is the future the alt-right chose.
>>
>>7688204
:^3
>>
>>7688192
i was productive too!

homework, voice training, exercise!
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>>7688207
It's gonna be Vietnam with nukes. How droll.
>>
when i move out into my probably shitty apartment will i have the balls to do voice training cuz im pretty sure the fucking walls will be thin as shit and everyone can hear me fail
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>>7688212
And Murica is gonna lose again as usual, how droll indeed.
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>>7688187
>how does it feel when you're friend uses girl name and female pronouns?
it feels pretty great honestly, it's sort of validating
Plus she's super supportive and said she'll be there if I need to come out to someone who may not respond well
Also my mom used my girl name in a letter she wrote to me and I cried from happiness knowing I have people there for me
>>7688193
I've just spontaneously gone on trips to place 2-3 hours away a bunch of times, being an adult is rad.
>>7688214
you've just gotta go for it sometimes, even if the walls are thin
Pretty sure my roommate can hear everything I say through these walls but you can't let something like that stop you from improving yourself
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>>7688196
>He also branded Islam as “the most RADICAL”religion in the world
Xtreem!
love you carol gtg
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>>7688196
Please go away, fuck
>>7688173
Honestly man
And this probably sounds lame but
You just have to be there for yourself and believe in yourself
Having a support system is nice and I'm sure it helps I would think, but if you don't have that it takes longer but you can still make it there. I've never had any external emotional or psychological support and my "closest" friends aren't actually really that close at all, so I mean idk man
Self-doubt is natural but you just have to find the conviction to believe that you're right regardless of what anyone else thinks.

Delude yourself if you have to honestly truely
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>>7688218
>>7688212
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>politics again
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>>7688218
Really we'll lose the most due to Brexit.
>>7688222
Islam is just, like, so radical

:3

<3 <3 <3
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>>7687896
fear of my death hurting others
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>>7688223
:P
>>
>>7688228
right?
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>>7688209
good girl :3
>>
>>7688230
This. My mum would be sad.
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>>7688229
welsh independence
>>
I used to be scared of needles
like SUPER SUPER scared of needles
the nurses would make fun of me when I would get my blood drawn because I would turn pale white and start sweating....

but now since doing my own injections...I almost enjoy the feeling of the needle going into the muscle
its a very satisfying feeling
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>>7688228
Eyyy Wang.

>>7688235
Eyyy Potato princess.

>>7688240
>welsh independence
LOL
O
L
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>>7688240
:b
:p

>>7688244
Needles are scary ;;
When I was in the hospital they did blood tests and they took blood and it scared me uwu
>>
>tfw on diet shakes
Am I a real woman now?
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>>7688249
>they took blood and it scared me uwu
the first injection I did took like 30 minutes because of how much I was freaking out
I thought I had spilled some of the estrogen trying to open it because my hands were sweating so much
seriously had to watch so many videos of trannies doing it and thinking 'if they can do it, you can do it'

...and now I borderline enjoy the process lol
>>
>>7688248
>Eyyy Wang.

its funny because benis :-DDD
>>
>>7688251
they're gonna make you gain weight
>>
>>7688255
Aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa
Needles terrify me ;_;
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>>7688255
Needle talk triggers me because IHP lost my money when I tried to order injections.
>>
>>7688263
you'll learn to love the feeling :3
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>>7688267
Noooòoòoooo
No needles
3:
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>>7688265
did you call their customer service at all?
the lady on the phone was really nice and helpful when I had to call once

she seemed a bit awkward, maybe because she saw what I was buying lol
>>
>>7688263
>>7688265
have u seen my vid?
https://youtu.be/Q3Qaofr4orw
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when did they discover timezones?

do you think that perhaps in the early days of radio transmissions, one guy from germany was talking to one guy from japan, asking him why he was up so late, and he was just like "dude wtf, it's morning here"?
>>
>>7688273
that was one of the videos I watched to psych myself up into doing it :]
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>>7688273
NEEDLES NOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>7688274
probs when they realized the earth wasn't flat
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>>7688259
It really is, especially with RE7 out.
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>>7688274
im sure they knew at the time that a round object in space will only receive light on the other side
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>>7688289
bby ur gonna leearn to love em I swear
<3 <3 <3
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>>7688222
>tfw extreme radical religions
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>>7688294
Uwu
>>
>>7688273
that slow injection jesus christ

i'd just jam it in quick and push the liquid in

just like my brother when used to give me my methotrexate injections (he was a paramedic) :D
>>
>>7688192
That's very good sophiechan in proud of you
You'll do well tomorrow too!
>>
>>7688272
Maybe I'll try that, idk I just wanna forget about the whole thing, I'm pissed off.
>>7688274
Informal timezones existed as long as human history since people measured time from whenever the sun rose which happens at a different time in every area. It got formalized into the 24 or so chunks after railways were invented because Bristol being 10 minutes behind London made timetables incredibly complex and it didn't matter anymore because it's only an hour away by train now as opposed to days. So in actual fact discrete timezones don't exist if you're 50 yeards further east you'll see the sun rise a few seconds earlier than the other guy but we made big chunks because it was easier for train timetabling purposes (and now airplane) to pretend the sun rises at the same time in a 100mile stretch of land; Time zones are an approximation.
>>
>>7688279
yayyyyyyyyyy! I did it with one hand, lol

>>7688289
I swear they don't even hurt, it just feels weird
>>
Can i stop shitposting now
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sup fags, do anyone how Angie is feeling after her revision?
>>
>>7688314
you should def call them
it doesn't seem like they're in the business of scamming people

>>7688315
>I did it with one hand
lol impressive!!
>>
>>7688273
why did you draw on yourself
>>
>>7688322
That is not a good picture of you
>>
>>7688320
ok, I'm ready to assume shitposting duties, just fill me up on what's going on.

>>7688303
but what if i pass my leg and the needle comes out the other side?
;-;
>>
>>7688291
ive never played any resident evil game or any final fantasy game im actually a bad person
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>>7688322
seems to be happy enough to not want any more!
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>>7688303
oh jeez, wouldn't jamming it like that hurt thought?
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>>7688322
nikky, why did you support trump?
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>>7688300
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>>7688327
Idk
I posted about the Bannon "war with China is inevitable" thing
>>
>>7688326
I am at that stage that I don't really care - I too often hear I look:

>great
>fantastic
>cis
>reeeeeeee

It's much more interesting to hear some criticism.
>>
>>7688332
>>7688322
nice!!
she's /ourgirl/
>>
>>7688328
me neither
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>>7688334
Psssh NPR is literally running the story that he's going to legalize all Christian discrimination against LGBT folks
>>
>>7688333
Is boob
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>>7688333
that makes me cringe, but they're probably holding a blunt drawing needle to it, not an injecting needle
>>
>>7688332
Are you implying that I look like this cutie? (saved)
>>
>>7688328
It's OK Ada, they are not very good to begin with. You have not lost your trutrans card. You only loose it if you don't like that crappy game Life is Strange.
>>
>>7688325
oh because it was going to be a webm for mtfg so I didn't want to use sound.

the explanation is to draw an imaginary rectangle one palm's width from knee, sides of your leg and hip/belly and locate the center. This is where the shot goes.

This is an approximation of a place in your leg where no major arteries or veins pass.
>>
>>7688342
Yeah I posted that earlier but people were disinterested
>>
>>7688332
I don't understand why anyone would buy a rifle for home defence. The shotgun is good but the rifle, idk maybe it works because it appears to be a carbine idk.
>>7688336
>"I'm tired of all the compliments!"
This is why we hate passers.
>>
>>7688332
all the fuck ups trump will make will never be more devastating than hillarys guaranteed nuclear war.
>>
>>7688346
life is strange unironically made me weepy for days
>>
>>7688352
Isn't Trump invading China?
>>
>>7688342
I hate liberal news sites, they always ruin the nice surprises for faggots and the potential for liberal tears is diminished.
>>
>>7688347
thank you
>>
>>7688355
>tfw snug in the closet
>tfw no surprises for me
Enjoy your conversion camps full-timers :-^D
>>
>>7688354
idk, I feel like we'd probably notice something like that, wouldn't we?
>>
>>7688352
How can you forget the Benghazi Emails?

we'd be literally going to war against Russia if not for Trump.
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I would like some anime ramen
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>>7688345
i thought it was you for a long time until i realised you were polish
>>
>>7688355
NPR is funded by a republican congress, its lawfully non biased
>>7688350
I was waiting for NPR to run the story and they just did at lunch, after what he did with the LGBT order
>>
>>7688350
I think people thought he wasn't actually going to do any of the stuff he said he would and now that he is they are trying to cope by refusing to believe that anything is real. like I told my mom some of the things that are actually like factually happening in the usa right now and she told me stop believing in conspiracy theories.

>>7688352
kek
>>
>>7688352
Didn't he just throw down the gauntlet and threaten Iran

Like are you sure war isn't coming?
>>
>>7688365
Looks like people on /LGBT/ don't care about lgbt rights. Weird huh?
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>>7688364
I can see some resemblances but her eyes are much more round and nose more flat. But thanks it was nice.
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>>7688360
>tfw snug in the closet

iktf
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>>7688365
>Funded by Republicans
>Unbiased
U wot m88
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>>7688353
Well there you go. Trutrans all the way.
>>
>>7688363
I would like some anime ramen as well but vegan version please
>>
>>7688371
That's because half the people here are cis chasers who deluded themselves into thinking getting fucked by a trap is straight
>>
>>7688370
I'm not sure war isn't coming, but it won't be with a superpower
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>>7688378
Really? D:
>>
>>7688374
NPR is the only completely unbiased news source

And republicans still scream to get its funding pulled because it tells the truth
>>
>>7688331
uhh no it'll hurt even more if you go in slow

i mean why do you think autoinjectors just fucking slam it into you
>>
>>7688376
j-just pretend the charsui is mushrooms
>>
>>7688360
going to camp with faggots and made to wrestle sounds like wholesome fun.

It's like britbongs don't bond with their church bros over "first one to gag on a cock is a faggot". So rad, I miss sunday school
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FINALLY IT'S OUT!

Now to spend 3 hours rerolling until I get Tharja...
>>
>>7688371
half the posters on /lgbt/ are people coming from /pol/ telling us to kill ourselves. another quarter is brain damaged lgbt people who go on about how they would be okay being murdered by facists if they also killed non whites. so roughly 3 quarters of /lgbt/ are actively against lgbt people being allowed to exist.
>>
>>7688383
>NPR is the only completely unbiased news source
you are honestly mentally retarded if you believe this

do you think cnn considers themselves biased? msnbc? fox?
>>
>>7688380
>china isn't a super power
>Iran doesn't have icbms and can't get a nuke
>russia is a super power

Like why do you do this to yourself the mental gymnastics must be tiring

Say you're right though
>I'd rather not be in a war that neither side would want to fire because both could end the world in a minute
>I want to be in the war where 300,000 troops have to sit in a country for 8 years getting shot at and blown up freely by insurgent forces

You are a spoiled brat who has no concept of war tbqh
>>
>>7688378
i'm not a chaser or anything, but let's be clear, having sex with traps isn't gay because you're only attracted to their feminine features

it's actually a good opportunity to do "gay things" in a non-gay way
>>
>>7688402
you're gay lad
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>>7688387
ah here we go... t-the gyoza is vegan
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>>7688405
nope, i'm not gay at all

genuine gay people don't even like traps anyway
>>
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-destroy-johnson-amendment-religious-freedom-separation-church-state-a7559421.html

>churches funding political parties
I'm sure the Religion of Tolerance won't fund fundies at all /s

>>7688397
:|
>>
>>7688400
I don't think there will be war with china though. and even so, if I DID think there would be war with china, I'll only THINK it, I won't KNOW it like I would with hillary.
>>
>>7688387
>>7688406
sorry sheen meat is murder you know

also most ramen broth is made with pork bones and like almost all japanese food has bonito

I think there are some ramen places in my city that say they have vegan options tho so it's okay <3
>>
>>7688399
Those aren't nationally funded news agencies

CNN is largely unbiased outside of commentators, but they employ commentators from both sides, so I would call them equally biased

Fox News is political theater they know that, they haven't been news for years, there's no vetting or investigations like NPR and CNN have

MSNBC is reactionary and biased
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>>7688402
>having sex with traps isn't gay
The mental gymnastics you people go through.
>>
>>7688409
This is really funny because like I have a straight gf and I'm irl friends with two gay dudes with trans girlfriends and tons of transbians dating in passing transgirls
>>
>>7688400
Iran is a big country with a decent army, USA would get BTFO especially as the world won't be supporting their invasion like they did with Iraq. And they are so fanatic in their hate of Americans, Iraqis didn't really give that much of a fuck. it's gonna be Vietnam all over again. As for a US war with China.......LOL.
>>
>>7688412
I'm sorry .___.
I tried my best to find anime vegan ramen
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nini
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>>7688423
nini frangi

also someone get that pupper off of that motorcycle
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>>7688402
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>>7688414
>having sex with boys that look like girls is gay
>but if i'm a boy who takes hormones to sort of look like a girl, i can describe myself as "straight" if i'm attracted to guys

DOUBLE STANDARDS
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>>7688410
Policies that were banned in 1954 as retarded are being made legal today, really makes you think.
>>
>>7688419
it's okay sheen you did your best.
>>
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2017/02/suspicious-death-and-three-cyber-arrests-points-new-twist-us-election-hack/135048/

>>7688431
We are going back to the 1880's, apparently.
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>>7688427
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>>7688427
This is literally true for Japan, one of the reasons why Christianity never caught on there was because the samurai class enjoyed sex with young boys
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>>7688428
I'm attracted to girls with penises - gay
I'm attracted to boys and I'm a girl - straight
I'm attracted to boys and I'm a girl and I like it when they suck my cock - super gay

It's very easy
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>>7688383
how can it be unbiased if NPR only reports Trump's illegal and unconstitutional activities?

They should get fired like that Obama loving, "unbiased" Attorney General who didn't want to serve Trump's clearly illegal and unconstitutional mandate banning muslims from entering the US.

all who oppose Trump must be made silent
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>>7688445
>I'm attracted to boys and I'm a girl
faye finally admitted it!
>>
>WAIFU AQUIRED
Didn't get the Tharja I wanted, but I got Felicia and Sophia so I'll keep it.
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is being trans gay
>>
new
>>7688422
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https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-america-divided/milo-yiannopoulos/

Daily reminder that Milo is a horrible person
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>>7688441
i think it probably has more to do with isolationist policies that meant japan had very limited foreign contact between the 17th and 19th centuries
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>>7688452
everything is gay
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>>7688452
Yes it's like being super duper gay.
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>>7688458
>one of the reasons
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>>7688448
I was about to go dl this and then fire emblem heroes showed up

Rip
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I want bobs
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>>7688462
i mean, most countries enjoyed little boys' butts at some point in history

japan's not special in that regard
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>>7688445
what if I'm bi?

check mate liberal apologist
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>>7688491
HULK HOGAN PREDICTED 9/11
>HULK HOGAN PREDICTED 9/11
HULK HOGAN PREDICTED 9/11
>HULK HOGAN PREDICTED 9/11
HULK HOGAN PREDICTED 9/11
>HULK HOGAN PREDICTED 9/11
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