>jerk off a lot >get the urge to fuck a girl >abstain

Because you're a sissy fetishist. Not gay.

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>>7657742
>sissy fetishist
>Not gay.

>>7657742
>get the urge to BE the girl and have my boypussy fucked by a bunch of horny guys
>"Not gay"
WEW

>>7657927
>>7657950
I got fucked ONCE in my life by a very good friend, rest of the times I just date and fuck girls because I love them.

I consider myself straight.

>>7657969
>Hey bruh, you DTF?
>What? That's gay, dude
>No, man, it's not gay if our balls don't touch and we keep saying "no homo"
>Oh well in that case lemme smash

>>7657969
Lol anon......

You def aint straight

>>7658143
I would have done it again if I was lusting after men.

I know I'm probably like 98% straight and 2% gay, but nobody is 100% straight. I still consider myself straight because that's what I am, considering I've only had sex once with a guy and it was a semi accident.

>>7657927

Hes right though.

These guys are only technically bi, they don't have a true attraction to males.

>>7658312
>it was a semi accident
how do you accidentally fuck another dude

>>7657683
Just jerk off you faggot. When I abstain from masturbation I want to become a cumdunpster and be fucked by literally any guy but the second I cum I regret it all.

>>7658421
By getting drunk.

>>7657969
>I got fucked ONCE in my life by a very good friend
>I took penis in my butt
>Im not gay though
bruh...

>>7658421
You know how these things happen.

You're naked with your back to him.

He's got his hard one out and is strolling around the room when he trips.

One and a million shot, but, oh well.

>>7658512
If someone doesn't actively seek dick they're not gay.

Experimenting isn't gay, he clearly didn't like it enough to do it again.

>Jerk off all the time
>Want to fuck girls and guys, and be fucked by girls and guys
>Don't want to be a girl, but might crossdress in the bedroom for a good enough partner
>Only ever had one partner (female)

>>7657683
You probably aren't comfortable with being dominant, aggressive, and predatory, which are the hallmarks of primal male feelings

If you think this, and are more comfortable being submissive, passive, and subserviant, then you will act like a faggot

tl;dr be a man.

>>7660005
experimenting can MAKE you gay though.

>>7660125
Only if you like it.

>>7657683
hrt now

>>7665097
pretty sure this is a meme here....

>>7665074
This is a dumb argument, anyone with the right stimulus can get pleasure from something

Theres getting pleasure from it , and then theres PERSUING it, and persuing is a choice.

>>7658312
You're bi, no issue with that. Sexuality is a spectrum and, at times, having our prostate stimulated feels good.

>>7657950
that's something called meta-attraction or pseudo-androphilia
it's androphilia that exists only in the context of being a woman, and people who have it do not have any attraction to men in general
the real attractive thing to someone with that experience is being a woman/feminine, and having sex with men is part of that femininity

>>7657683
Masturbation increases T levels. High T makes you feel toppy, low T makes you feel bottomy.

Ask yourself this: when you're fucking a girl, is it still hot if you're a futa? If so, go ahead and transition, being a vers dickgirl is like dating with god mode on.

If not, you should definitely stay a repressed self loathing hikikomori until the Trump administration ends and it's safe to be a hon again.

>>7665145
it's a meme because it's good advice

>>7665221
spellcheck.com

>>7657683
Why are there so many people like OP?

Like.. ALOT. And it seems like it's growing. I see so many people whose whole sexuality is based off an attraction to themself, and I don't understand that sentiment at all.

>>7667023
>Why are there so many people like OP?
because autoeroticism is pretty common, and as most people are heterosexual some of them are going to be autoerotic re. the idea of being a man/woman
>And it seems like it's growing
it isn't, not by any stretch of the imagination
it's just more talked about

>>7667049
Is it really not growing? I have only noticed it lately, and it seems almost all of the transgendered girls I know are exclusively into looking at themselves and looking at pictures (real or drawn) of other trans girls. I'm sure they do it for a variety of reasons but... It definitely seems like there is a big difference between then and now. Also it may be incorrect for me to assume, but I also kind of consider transbiens to be apart of autoeroticism.

I have a folder of fit muscular men not because I'm attracted to it, but because it's sort of motivation, so I guess that's part of it, although I'd argue it doesn't seem to be motivating them at all.

I'm no expert but I really think people are becoming trans for different reasons than they use to. That's what I've sort of derived from all this.

>>7667074
70-90% of trans women in high-individualism countries have autoerotic etiologies
this is a completely stable statistic, it was first shown in 2010 but was known for a long time before that
see this study: http://booksc.org/book/7769312
the only real difference is that trans women with that etiology now transition younger, in their 20s or younger rather than near-universally 40+, so you're more likely to meet them than you would have if you had transitioned ten or twenty years earlier when they would have been in entirely different communities

>>7667049
I Disagree. I think it's related to trends in porn that are far more powerful and influential than people realize. Porn has changed, it's far more focused, tailored and emphasized. Many times more visceral and the focus is purely on the girls. Camera angles have become so much more zoomed in, and the males in a porno film are faceless and de-emphasized. Males don't relate to them anymore, and porn is increasingly being tailored to African American population who are shown to consume porn more often. The dicks are bigger as well, and average males are finding themselves petrified in the bedroom, with massive self-esteem issues.

I think there's alot more to the equation to porn of course, but all-in-all I think it's several big factors that add up to a growth in "autogynephilia" and other forms of self-attraction that weren't as common as they are now.

>>7667097
porn definitely warps people's sexualities, but agp is genuinely common at baseline
nobody knows for sure how many natal males are agp, but the most reasonable estimates that are now twenty or thirty years old are around 2-5%
that's a lot, and our sexually liberated/surreal/degenerate/choose your preferred word age allows for discussion of that in a way that would be unthinkable just ten years ago
there doesn't need to be any increase in the prevalence of autogynephilia for a massive number of trans women to experience it

>>7667088
Do you think that it might have to do with collectivist countries having more importance on men as providers for the community, and thus they have more value and are seen more desirable?

I'm really glad you linked this paper because its sort of in-line with some assumptions I have about transgender people and their sexuality.

>>7667111
yes, and that's one of the same factors the study proposes (the other one, from the opposite end, being that androphilic natal males in collectivist societies tend to be more feminine and thus more likely to experience dysphoria and transition -- you can see a microcosm of this if you live in the united states, with hispanic androphilic natal males polarizing into 'closeted forever' and 'transitions to female' in all but the most liberal communities)

>>7667107
You know.. I think I may have experienced AGP myself after reading this paper and thinking deeply on it. When I was younger (around age 15) I particularly would think of how much I would like to be a very cute, attractive girl. I did not want to have sex with men either, but I thought about it alot for a short period of my life and as I got older I sort of grew out of it. I'm an adult male now and I'm particularly pleased to be one, but thinking back I never really considered that passing phase.

I mean the more I think about it, the less respect I have for actual trans people who are nonhomosexual, as atleast in my very very feint, passing interest where I spent alot of time talking about it online, it really just childish self-absorption. Also I blame anime some.

I don't know why I'm being so retarded and ranting alot tonight, but I guess I've just understood AGP slightly more.

>>7666974
Bait

>>7666974
Why do the nofap people claim the opposite?

>>7658312
>semi accident
What he tripped and fell ito your ass ?

When I wake up or go to bed I can't help but sit there and intensely fantasize about being a girl and being with a man. But when reality kicks in I have to accept the fact it will never happen and being gay/a tranny won't make me happy in the long run. The degenerate sexual fantasies might be nice to fulfill while I'm young, but as I get older it would have rapidly diminishing returns. Plus the chance of HIV is incredibly high.

It's a real problem that the desires keep popping up though because they make me not want to workout and get fit.

>>7667848
Well hook up with a guy like me and just dress like a fine lady in our own tume. Or find someone like so.

mayb your gay

XDDDDXDDDD

>>7669185
I guess it would be nice to have a monogamous boyfriend and do stupid crossdressing shit in the bedroom but even then I think I'd rather not since I'd probably end up leaving him for a woman at some point so I could have a proper family; and I don't want to be responsible for hurting someone like that.

>>7669287
Best scenario here is to say we are roommates and do our thing. When the time comes that you find yourself a lady. And really see a future with her. Then yes by all means live your life.

>>7669331
I wouldn't trust some fag enough for something casual either. Chances are they would be fucking around on the side as well and get me HIV.

It's all just too sketchy.

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>>7657683
When you jerk off a lot your testosterone spikes and you feel more dominant/aggressive.

When you refrain from jerking off your testosterone gets converted by enzymes into DHT and Estrogen and other hormones that make you feel more submmissive and beta.

Alpha males have a lot of sex.
Beta males don't have as much sex.

>>7669345
I guess. Find some not so fag fag. I no I'm not like so. I did like that one time I suck dick and got fuck. With condom of course. Haven't found someone to do it again with. But yeah I definitely see what ya mean. I wouldn't want to just lay with anyone and get something.

>>7669357
what if I only jerk off to sissy porn