Are there any trans people here who were fairly typical for their

>>7656777
I was always pretty dysphoric but I'm pretty autistic and didn't fit with either gender.
I had troubles differentiating gender traits and I had long hair off and on throughout my youth and never thought anything of it until I was out in the working world and all of a sudden people explained that it is a gendered thing.
Similarly most of my hobbies often crossed typical gender boundaries and I never thought anything of it until my late teens or later.
I am partially autistic and my parents never intervened or explained anything to me and I found everything out via internet and partial social interactions (never had friends until 18+ so that was rough) so I just kind of coasted through life doing whatever the fuck I wanted and then after high school I found out I'm actually retarded as fuck.

>>7656788
In what way did your traits and hobbies cross gender boundaries?

>and then after high school I found out I'm actually retarded as fuck.
Don't be harsh on yourself, not being socially adapted isn't being retarded.

>>7656777
FTM here. I was pretty masculine as a child but I was completely fine if not happy with having long hair until I was about 11-12.

>>7657191
How come? Did you have any other feminine traits?

>>7657199
>How come?
I don't know exactly. I figure it's cause I had a damn nice head of hair and it made me feel like a horse. I did cut it all off when I was 3-4, I don't remember why but my parents told me I did and my excuse was "I wanted to".

>Did you have any other feminine traits?
I used to watch Desperate Housewives with my mum when I was about 7-8 because she was really lonely if that counts. I don't know if I really understood it that much but I did find it amusing.

Depends on who you ask. Ask me or anyone my own age when I was in school, I was obviously feminine. Ask my parents or other family members, and I'm like Hercules but manlier. Doesn't help that they tried their hardest to suppress any gender non-conforming behavior.

mtf here. always played with guys toys(weapons, helicopters, cars, soldiers) hadn't any dysphoria till age 12.

>>7657225
>Doesn't help that they tried their hardest to suppress any gender non-conforming behavior.
What did they do?

>>7657024
When I was young I read sailor moon which was like turbo fujo Manga which if you're familiar is a ton of tranny stuff. Most girls in the Manga cross between men and women at will. Most of the sailor moon Manga of the 90s revolved around them transforming between male and female at will.
Anime was a pretty forbidden hobby when I was growing up let alone being a tranny in the early 90s so I was fucked lol

>>7657239
They didn't outright ban feminine behavior, but they would belittle me for it. If I wanted to play with dolls, they would mock that. If I wanted to paint nails, they would laugh. If I didn't want to wear masculine clothing, they would emotionally manipulate me into it. Apparently crying was too feminine, so they'd call me a little bitch and discipline me for it, yell at me for it, sometimes hit me for it. They forced me to have male friends (getting beaten up daily is fun!). Honestly anyone who would bully a small child like that has to be totally soulless. Doesn't help that I'm thin skinned and not terribly assertive. After a certain point I just retreated from the world entirely and became a depressed shut-in.

>>7657285
Stuff like this makes me really hate gender roles.

>>7657299
Depends. Gender roles are pretty great, I'd probably have been the happiest child ever if I were treated like a girl. But for the few of us who end up on the wrong side of things, it can get really bad.

>>7656777
I liked playing with toy guns too as a kid but I was always in the girl team when we played war. Also I didnt question why I didnt had barbies because I had an action man with long hair that I could braid and dress up with toy clothes.

Yep I guess I was already a girl back then.

>>7657301
>Depends. Gender roles are pretty great,
How so?

>I'd probably have been the happiest child ever if I were treated like a girl.
What if all kids were treated the same and free to play with any gender of toys? And liking one kind would be no different to a boy preferring dinosaurs to trucks.

>>7656777
I liked boy stuff I guess but I also liked girl stuff.

There was a stage in my life when I was really into Celtic stuf, and I just was so excited at the idea of wearing a kilt.... looking back, it all makes sense now

>>7657348
I enjoy feminine stuff, and I think most people kinda enjoy being pushed into gender roles.

>>7657351
I fantasize about being forced into a feminine role despite resisting. But really I'd rather there be no set roles and to just be free to pick the feminine things I like.

>>7657386
I feel like if we lived in a society without gender roles, femininity would simply be destroyed entirely. Despite all feminism has done, masculinity and maleness is still seen as vastly superior. It's the reason why MtFs are hated so much compared to FtMs.

>>7657391
I think a lot of it would, but not all. There would still be some for those who are feminine. The majority being destroyed would be good, because that would only happen if it doesn't have a social function.

>>7657397
>The majority being destroyed would be good, because that would only happen if it doesn't have a social function.
I don't want to live in a society where we only do things out of some utilitarian "social function". It sounds very fascist-y to say its good to eliminate things people enjoy just because it's not useful enough to society.

Naturally feminine people would find themselves reviled by society, even more than they are now.

ftm, I was raised pretty gender neutral/masculine (had all bothers) so I enjoyed a lot of neutral/masculine shit. But I had mostly female friends until I was about 12, and so also had a stash of feminine toys (Barbies etc) that I broke out whenever they came over. I liked playing with them as a means of socialising with my friends, but didn't have very much to do with them when I was alone. Other than stripping them naked and making them kiss - which, honestly, is about the only thing my female friends wanted to do with them too, so who knows how you're actually supposed to play Barbie.

I became aware by about age 10 that I didn't behave/think the way a girl was supposed to, and thought that my parents just screwed me up by not raising me right, so I dove into a lot of feminine pursuits (makeup, pop stars, etc) to try and get into it all and be normal. But it was all sort of experimental and false.

But I always did genuinely enjoy things like playing pretend (granted, I almost always had a boy role), drawing/painting, playing dress up (mostly as princesses, or neutral things like pirates/cowboys), and making up stories/plays etc, which are pretty feminine I think.
I was also deep into The Sims and Neopets as a tween, and Dragon Ball Z freaked me the hell out.

mtf here. I liked typically masculine things like Spiderman, X-Men, Digimon, Bionicle, ect. I do remember being really obsessed with feminine male anime characters though.

I'm ftm (pre everything, still in the closet) and while my hobbies are masculine (sports, fishing, dirt track racing), I also like a lot of girly things like doing my nails, looking pretty, Starbucks, I like kids a lot, etc. I've had dysphoria since before I started school, but I guess it's more over my genitals (and more recently boobs) plus sex/dating (I currently have a boyfriend; I'm more interested in women but not interested in being a lesbian).
I think if I came out people would be pretty surprised, because my presentation is pretty femme and that doesn't bother me too much. It's more important to me to look good than it is to not look feminine.

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Beside having an interest in trains (autism alert) I had no boy typical interests when I was a kid. I even asked for a Barbie house set at 7 but was told "durr these are for girls." I had many plush animals so I played with these.

>>7657444
>Starbucks
Cis basic bitch

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>Mtf
>Parents bought me bionicles because that's what was popular
>Made whole dramas with them where they would fight and be friends and fall in love with each other and have romantic relationships

Do with that what you will

>>7657481
How is that a gendered thing? Why the hell is tea gendered too? Cis people are the weirdest.

>>7657481
Cis basic bitch with gender dysphoria
>>7657485
Lol what did your parents think?

>>7657439
>Bionicle
Me too! I built a lot of anatomy-fail female robots tho.

Looking back, I don't really think Lego is that masculine. Creating stuff is inherently feminine, and it's the perfect escapist medium for kids who don't even understand what's wrong yet (I didn't even realise something was until 12) since we can just rebuild things better if they're fucked up and broken.

>>7657403
Femininity wouldn't be stamped out. It would just happen less because it wouldn't be part and parcel of being one sex.

>>7657525
>Creating stuff is inherently feminine,
what

>Repressed AGP tranny
>Also into Bionicle
Bionicle causes transsexualism confirmed

>>7657444
>I'm more interested in women but not interested in being a lesbian
What's the difference?
t. mtf who wants to try being an effeminate gay instead of transitioning

>>7656777
I was pushed into all the typical girly things like princesses by my parents, never really thought about it.
I did play with hotwheels and action figures too, but my parents never bought any for me because again they pushed me to like feminine things.

I definitely felt dysphoria when I was younger but when I got to puberty and grew tits and stuff, it made it so much worse for me. For a while I tried to dress and act overly feminine and even act really agressive with guys to cover it up, but I felt so suicidal and depressed all the time and knew that wasn't who I am.

>>7656777
I always hear about other crazy trannies and how they hated life at 3 years old because they couldn't be the princess in some game and I grew up not really giving a shit until 15-18 that's when I seriously started to feel like I was a girl but no one treated me like one. I'm pre everything but will start HRT in a few months.

>>7657727
i know a non repressed autistic mtf really into bionicle, legos and stuff like that too

>>7657493
>Lol what did your parents think?
Mostly ignored it or were awkward about it. I also distinctly remember telling my dad that I had an "inner soul made up of cats and flowers and the color pink."

>>7657225
>Ask me or anyone my own age when I was in school, I was obviously feminine. Ask my parents or other family members, and I'm like Hercules but manlier.

Omg its like my family. My entire childhood consisted of being yelled at for acting like a girl or a bitch. Fast forward a few years, my mom has no recollection of anything, not the being yelled at, not ne begging to grow my hair or get extensions. And all of my friends knew something was up, but they just thought I was a regular fag.

>>7659006
It's a form of gaslighting and denial. Combined with the fact that easily forgotten, minor events to a parents can be major and life changing to children. I'm sure to my parents, a few dozen rude remarks and insults among thousands don't stand out much.

>>7659039
>gaslighting
Literally every time I see this I have to look up what it means and then forget again.

>>7657285
>crying was too feminine
My dad used to whip me with a belt as corporal punishment. At a certain age I was still good enough to beat but then I was told not to cry about it. Not even sniffle. Guess it wasn't good enough to have 'learned my lesson'. Probably trying to instill 'manliness' in me. Guess it didn't take.

>>7658595
Why are so many mtfs autistic?

>>7657485

kek, I used to do that with chess pieces.

>>7659180

See the movie, it's really good and will give the term better context.

>>7656777
mtf here. When I told my dad, he was more shocked than anything because I never really came across as particularly effeminate. I guy'd around as much as the other young lads at school. I mean, I never really enjoyed sports or cars or most hypermasculine hobbies, but I was never really girly. I played with my sister's barbies whenever she played with them. I enjoyed building houses with legos. My only two friends at school for the first like, four years were girls, and I played girly things with them without thinking about it.

I can't say for definite what was and wasn't an early sign of me being trans. Some of it feels like it might be more of a cause, like, I lived with my mum and sister for most of my developing life and didn't have a lot of male role models, so when my mum remarried, I always felt more comfortable with other women than with men. But hey, I'm no psychoanalyst or whatever, so who am I to make a call? The only thing I do know for definite is, looking back after just getting out, I had actually been depressed for almost a full decade. From 13 - 20 years old, I was in some state of depression, though I never really noticed. for real, I never showered. I once went so long without washing that someone in school asked to move seats to not sit next to me. Personally, I think that a lot of dysphoric feelings dont really come out until puberty, when your body starts majorly diverting from where you want it to be.

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i am also a repressed agp tranny and i also played with bionicles

>>7656777
i'm ftm, and in my childhood i had neutral behaviour, but i was an extreme loner. spent all day playing on the PC or at the smith workshop with my dad playing with iron chippings or other crap i found laying around. didn't like spending time with girls, nor boys, and didn't care about clothing. i wore neutral gym suits for 12 years straight. my parents didn't care that i wasn't feminine, they let me do whatever i preferred. always kept long hair. didn't try hard to fit in with males. i started getting dysphoric feelings after puberty at 12, then i cockblocked my puberty with starvation. even now i can't say i'm that masculine, i mean i look like a guy but a scrawny long haired one that shaves everyday. i never cared much about masculinity\femininity, i'm just this person

Yeah. FtM here. Grew up wearing velvet dresses with lace collars and such by my own choice (though I also wore boy's jean shorts and oversized t-shirts), playing with dolls and so on.

I thought puberty would be great and I'd love it but then it happened and I flipped a shit. Boobs were not good, periods were not good, the fat distribution changes made me want to peel my flesh off. Testosterone and surgery saved my life and I still wear dresses and jean shorts.

mtf

grew up with 5 siblings, 3 brothers and 2 sisters

the other sister lives so far away we almost never meet but i spent like all my time as a kid with my sister and it was sooo fucking good i loved it we did all sorts of things like watch movies, make pizza and eat snacks n shit.

then later i spent most of my time with my 3 brothers, i dont know, it felt different but semi ok

now im 18 and almost starting on hormones and it feels like my relationships to my 3 brothers are heavily strained and almost just gone

im estranged with my beloved sister with whom i have so many good memories, but we still like each other and i like her too. i hope she likes me back.