I need every cute transgirl on this board to come into this thread

>>7656603
I started early, actually worked on my voice, got relatively decent at putting on makeup, doing my hair, and dressing well. There's not much else to it.

Now all I need are surgeries, and I'll be done, I won't need anything more out of transition.

>>7656613
>I started early
What age
>actually worked on my voice
Explain everything you did, everything you learned, what mistakes were made, what you would do differently if you started again, etc.
>got relatively decent at putting on makeup
Explain everything you did, everything you learned, what mistakes were made, what you would do differently if you started again, etc.
>doing my hair
Explain everything you did, everything you learned, what mistakes were made, what you would do differently if you started again, etc.
>dressing well
Explain everything you did, everything you learned, what mistakes were made, what you would do differently if you started again, etc.

>There's not much else to it.
You're acting like these actually aren't all separate, complex compound-skills with incredible amounts of information needed to grasp and master. Well except starting early of course

Where are the details?

>Now all I need are surgeries, and I'll be done,
What surgeries and why?

>>7656628
>what age
15, so not that early, that's why I still need a bit of surgery. Just earlier than most.

>explain voice
I have a doc that I could send you in private, but it's not written by me, it's just accrued information. My biggest mistake was not working on it for so long, and just settling on making my voice higher, it made me sound like a stereotypical faggy-voiced tranner for the longest time. You really need to record yourself over and over and figure out what works, then try to reproduce it until you can reasonably do so under normal conditions. Don't settle for a falsetto, and don't focus too much on pitch, remember that the key is resonance. Practice for a few months, like really practice, and you should be okay.

>explain makeup
Again, my biggest mistake here was dawdling, but there are many cis women who start this late, so it wasn't as bad. The key here is to know what is appropriate when, and what suits you. You don't want to go out in full makeup just to do your laundry or get a McFlurry, and you don't want to pick out the wrong shade of foundation or lipstick or eyeshadow, etc. For me, I usually just put on a little foundation to hide any blemishes or imperfections, apply a shade of lipstick that complements my face (usually nothing too bright or colorful like most trannies wear, a rosy pink or dull red can do nicely), and a bit of mascara. I put on eyeliner when I'm feeling like I want to make a bigger impression, and almost never anything more than that.

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I'm not even finished with the makeup yet lol

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>>7656688
>makeup, continued
The hardest part for you will probably be the eyeliner and mascara, since you feel like you're gonna fuck up, and you will. What I use to remove any mistakes, is Trader Joe's moisturizing cream, but you can probably find another brand of lotion or moisturizer that works. I put the cream on a cotton ball, paper towel, or even Q-tips sometimes, and wipe away the imperfections, then use water to remove the cream. This way, you can actually "sculpt" eyeliner quite easily, though this isn't technically what you're "supposed" to do, but it saves time. I've actually had cis girls complement my wings that I "reverse sculpted" in this way.

Applying the eyeliner with pencil can also be daunting in itself, because you need to apply it to the sliver of skin between your eyelid and your eye, and you'll have problems doing that, your eye will want to close. Just keep at it until it feels more natural.

>explain hair
My hair is naturally curly, and if I don't do anything, it will get frizzy over time and won't frame my face correctly. For me, it can only be tamed when it's wet, so I need to be sure to do everything before it air dries. I use product (Tresemme firming gel) to prevent frizz, but I don't want it to be too slick and straight, so I'll brush it and blow-dry it to maintain volume and keep the curls intact, brushing so that it frames my face nicely, and re-applying product if the blow-dryer makes it too frizzy. It takes a while, but it's worth it.

However, this will probably only work for curly hair, and I have no idea what kind of hair you have, so this might not help you. However, the point is that you need to put effort into it, just like everything else.

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Take hormones, then gain weight, if you're fat lose weight before gaining it

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Here are my secrets to being a cute girl. If you wanna be a cute transgirl just ask one of the hons around here.

Step 1: start hrt young, younger the better
Step 2: be a cute boy to start with
Step 3: blend into society as a girl
Step 4: you'll be a cute girl by now if you did it right

>>7656740
>young
How young? Any cutoff age for cuteness?

>>7656746
Probably around 16 unless you're lucky.

>>7656724
>explain dressing well
Ehhh, this is more immaterial, and depends on many things. Everyone has their own sense of style, but everyone has to figure out through trial and error, how to come closest to their sense of style without looking gaudy. You've probably heard the meme about trans women not dressing to their age, well for me this isn't as much of a problem, but I still need to dress to my figure and to my general appearance, like my "tone" if that makes sense.

Since I'm quite pale with dark brown hair, it's much better for me to wear black than white, although black and white can look good. I hardly ever wear pastels because I know it will look atrocious, pink and yellow are pretty much straight out. Dull reds, greens, and purples are more appropriate. Solid colors are also generally a no-no, if I'm wearing a black or white shirt, I'll need some sort of design. The material needs to be thin or at least loose enough that it can hang nicely from my shoulders and still accentuate my figure, I'm very small. And this is kind of a nitpick, but a high collar doesn't look as natural for women, especially those with bigger chests like trans women usually have, so a lower neckline is probably a good idea. If you're self-conscious about your flat chest, like your boobs are still lower than the neckline and it looks like you just have a vast empty expanse, you can wear a necklace to draw attention away.

Basically just wear the opposite of a polo shirt. Polo shirts are usually solid, pastel colors, thick, dense material, and high collars. Don't ever wear them.

Now for shoulders. Hide them. Just hide them. Don't do it. Don't wear that tank top with spaghetti straps, I don't care if other girls wear them, it doesn't matter. Wear a sweater over an undershirt, wear a t-shirt with a light jacket, wear a very nice jacket, wear a peacoat, wear SOMETHING over those goddamn shoulders.

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>>7656746
cutoff age isn't a real thing, the more important thing is to be honest with yourself.

too many trannys are delusional about how they look/their potential

>>7656740
the source for that pic is hot

>>7656815
shit idk, crossdress and see i you look in anyway passable

if you do: great you might be ok, get on hormones before T fucks your shit

if not: well shit, poor guy, take the hormones and gamble on the hon life. or repress

>>7656603
Work on your posture, your stance, the way you walk and carry yourself, get off of your phone (seriously the angle of your head bent down does you no favors and you should be aware of your surroundings at all times.). Work on your voice no matter how hopeless it seems at times.

I feel like this advice is really important considering an experience today. I was in line, people not paying attention to me so doing fine. Then comes in someone else, presenting fem except...

>slouched posture, which made me look up for a moment.
>Oh, it's another Transwoman okay.
>Stands in line with arms folded over her chest, you know like a surly dude usually does. This makes her arms look even more huge. She was taller and generally bigger than me, so it also pulled her shoulders forward and made them even larger looking.
>Standing straight and rigid, not relaxed.
>Feet too close together, both pointed forward. This doesn't look femme with big feet, it looks military.
>Gets on phone, further ruining her posture and generally drawing too much attention to her hands.
>Feel bad for her, also slightly nervous because now people are -definitely- having this sort of thing at the forefront of their mind.
>On the way out, I glance over from my car window. She's got a slouch when she walks and a masc as fuck gorilla-walk. Wearing a skirt in winter.

Don't be like her. It does you no good to dress fem, have good hair and makeup, but have trash body language and mannerisms.

>>7656835
Seriously you mostly likely won't get to have it all, few transwomen ever do, so you need to put the effort in to get people to not scrutinize you too hard. I'd have probably never looked at the one in my story twice if she hadn't crossed her arms over her chest like she was pissed off.

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>>7656786
>dressing well, continued
I guess I should move on to matching, which is very important. Although honestly I probably over-match, and then it takes a while to get dressed, more so than necessary. But there's no real scientific way to explain this, it's not just about colors clashing, it's about how the entire outfit comes together. A skirt can be totally ruined if it doesn't flare out naturally from the top you're wearing, you can just end up looking like a rectangle. Generally, black is easier to match with everything, and pants and shorts/stockings are easier to match than skirts or dresses. Also, sweaters are a little easier to match than t-shirts.

I'm gonna be honest, I hardly ever wear skirts or dresses, I just think it's hard to make them look good. But for some reason, most trannies seem intent on wearing them all the time, probably because they're the most "feminine"?

However, to be fair, you need to make sure you're not overly masculine to the point where it looks weird. Like obviously don't wear man pants or baggy shorts, wear skinny jeans or shorts that look like pic related, probably with leggings of some kind if your legs are as twiggy as this girl's. Again, a nice material and a good fit can go a long way here, always accentuate your figure while drawing attention away from the rough edges.

4/5

Last part is coming up

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>>7656845
5/5

I'm gonna finish this up quickly. Because I have a very defined waist, I actually benefit from crop tops, as long as my shoulders are still covered. As for shoes, I usually just wear flats or boots, never sneakers or actual high heels. So pic related is an outfit I would realistically wear, except probably with stripes or some kind of pattern instead of a solid white crop top, but you get the idea.

Now another poster brought up something that's maybe a little more important >>7656835

I don't really think about this as much, but it's basically true. Most trans women have a very awkward way of maneuvering, it doesn't really look natural. The last time I was clocked was last spring, and it was probably because of this. The person who clocked me worked with transgender youth for a living, so make of that what you will, but she said that trans women just have a different way of "walking, and moving through the world". I hate trannies, so this pretty much crushed me.

I think you should move with purpose, not in this autistic fashion that the other anon was describing. Think of yourself as a cis woman in every situation, and it might come more naturally. Of course, you'll need to have the appearance and voice to back that up.

I think with all these skills together, you probably have a better idea of what passing entails. This took a lot of work, so I'm gonna lay down now, but I hope it at least helped a little bit.

>>7656873
The key is to relax. Women in general are more relaxed, not so tense and stiff unless there's good reason to be. When you're walking, take your time. Men typically walk "with purpose", just take your time and don't get tunnel visioned. Unless of course you actually need to be somewhere quickly.

It's hard I know and I still screw it up a lot after all of this time and effort, especially if I interact with someone and it goes poorly. Take a deep breath and try to relax. It helps I promise.

>>7656894
I think by "purpose", I just meant, as if you belong there. That probably wasn't the best word, your explanation is a little better.

But yeah, at this point I have just promised myself to attempt or at least self-harm whenever I get clocked, since there's no longer any excuse for it at my age (early 20s), especially considering my age of transition. I've been good for almost a year now, so I'm getting kind of nervous, but I think I'll be mostly okay now that my voice is top-notch.

>>7656603
My qt trans girl credentials
>5'10"
>skinny Andro model look
>envy of all the cis girls in my college fashion wise and body wise
>attractive tall fem dominant lesbian partner
in order to feel comfortable and confident which is the first step you gotta own being trans. Use that shit as a weapon because it is. Male socialization fosters confidence, use it in a femme way. Tall skinny girls will always be hot, abuse that. Don't try to be cis try to be attractive, I pass the majority of the time but still have a relatively deep voice but that's not what's important. Trans women can be visibly trans and still attract top tier partners, this is done by cultivating that trans look in a way that acknowledges and exploits the desirable features of both men and women.
For example I keep my arm muscles toned even tho that's not femme because that's an attractive feature. I show off the Adonis belt even though that's normally only on men. It's about balancing the masc and femme and taking full advantage of the potential of being trans rather than feeling shame for features that would otherwise be seen as attractive
Hope that helps as a guiding philosophy
Side note studying fashion will get you so fucking far in this world. And none of the above works unless you can fully look the look

>>7657184
Consider carefully how you want to present yourself OP. I for one would consider this terrible advice as far as being visibly trans goes but that's me. It's still advice that can work for some.

>>7657184
>Male socialization fosters confidence, use it in a femme way.
The "unhappy and repressed loser with no social skills" kind of male socialisation that a lot of transgirls (including myself) get doesn't work very well for that.

>>7657639
Well you need to be strong to do it. I dont mind standing up for myself or being under fire
I also don't hate myself anymore for being trans and think that's last wave thinking that needs to go

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>>7657184
Doesnt work if you have gorilla shoulders and arms

>>7656815
I can't tell, the biggest factor to passing is your height and shoulder width. Most other things can either be fixed or aren't as important.

>>7656815
there will never be a better time to start than today
no sense worrying if it's "too late", especially under age 30
this place has some ridiculous standards on what constituents too old to transition

you don't become a "cute trans girl".. you're either born a girl or you aren't.

>>7656603
I started somewhat late due to restrictions on transitioning that were lifted finally around my mid 20s, so I officially started HRT at 25 despite wanting to at 16.

I tried working on my voice many times but didn't feel it went anywhere, my voice eventually just naturally got more feminine to the point that my dad got weirded out when he called me almost a year later.

Got Laser hair removal to get rid of facial hair, 100% necessary. The rest I groom and HRT seems to deal with it as well at this point.

I do my hair and practiced make-up almost every day but it turns out I pass without makeup now and people think I look cute without anything done.

My major secret is that I've always looked more like my mother than my father and there may or may not have been an intersex condition I had at birth that the doctors were instructed to deal with, my parents refused to talk about it beyond it slipping out one day when my mom was on meds.

So good luck, I'm passing at 26.