Which race of trans girls has it easiest in passing?
Blacks: Easy to pass because most black women are huge and look like men anyway (e.g. michelle obama)
Asians: Easy to pass because white americans are bad at reading the facial features of asians, and they have the lowest testosterone of any race. According to anecdotes, it's hard for them to pass in Asian countries where people are familiar with asian faces.
Whites: Hardest time passing because whites have a medium amount of testosterone, so the males look masculine and females look feminine. More facial hair which shadows/stubble are visible against white skin, and are the tallest race.
Middle-easterners (arabs, persians, etc): Advantage in attractiveness because middle-easterners have some facial features that are feminine (big eyes, long dark eyelashes, full lips, wavy hair) which makes them immune to being hons, but the huge nose and brow bossing are annoying. They also tend to be very hairy, but luckily have darker skin which makes facial hair shadows/stubble less obvious. Advantage of short height
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>Blacks: Easy to pass because most black women are huge and look like men anyway
Wow. I used to think people where doing this "blacks are ugly and terrible"
Thing to be funny but apparently these people actually believe that.
Just....Wow.
But to answer your questions, Asians. Every race outside of Asians thinks all Asians look like girls. Only the manliest of the manly men can escape this.
>>7625475
does this mean whites are better off because its harder to be delusional?
Damn, so I DO have white privilege???
>>7625475
Asians. The meme is actually true.
Dark-haired whites have it hardest. At least blondes have light-colored facial hair (usually) which can go unnoticed even if long.
>>7625475
>white people's ideas of "feminine" and "masculine"
So much implying.
>>7625675
>Dark-haired whites have it hardest.
Or you might abandon your white paedophile idea of "feminine".
>>7625475
I'm from the middle east. We want no part of this thread.
>>7625758
I fucking hate muslims but I can't blame you for that
Hard mode: Whites (Northern/Germanic/Celtic), Vietnamese
Medium mode: Whites (Southern/Middle Easterners/Persians/Hispanic), Slavs, Blacks
Easy mode: East Asians
Tbqh
>>7625475
>Blacks: Easy to pass because most black women are huge and look like men anyway (e.g. michelle obama)
But not even black women want to be black women
>>7625803
certain black boys want to be black women
>>7625810
Gross
>>7625810
Maybe if they come out good looking, but most black women are not.
>>7625771
>I hate those who think exactly like me.
Western right wing in a nutshell.
>>7625826
I have a soft spot for black trans qties, I think they're adorable.
>>7625779
Scandinavian is easy German is hard
>>7625819
Net
>>7625758
Why would supposedly heterosexual men prefer men who look like men? Doesn't that make you gay?
Dude, It's objectively asians. They have the highest pass rate and have the potential to look like supermodels as well. There are some asian countries or provinces where being a tranny is the norm for asian boys. It's even possible for some of them to pass without HRT. Their skull structure, small statures, make them the prime candidates to be women.
Whites have it the hardest objectively. The more they age, it becomes exponentially harder for them to pass. They have a lot of sexual dimorphism you'd need to be insanely lucky with genetics to pass as a white male unless you were put on hrt in your early or mid teens. Along with that, they're extremely tall by default. The average height of caucasian males must be 5'10".
>>7625889
>Dude, It's objectively asians. They have the highest pass rate
Pass rate for what? For 7-year-old children? Because definitely not for WOMEN.
White people confirmed for repressed paedophiles.
>>7625475
What if I have albinism and have wide hips and female body proportions in general? How hard would it be for me to transition?
>>7625889
>small statures make them the prime candidates to be women
Right side: white people's idea of feminine.
Left side: actually feminine.
(Mother and daughter.)
White race is a mental disorder.
Aaaand once again people forget native americans...Most Ive seen are godly. Theres one that's been posting in here and shes fucking hot as shit! I needs de sauce.
>>7626003
Native americans are a lottery draw cause like half of them have fetal alcohol syndrome and they're all addicted to meth anyway.
>>7626011
I got to date one almost a year and a half ago and my god she played guitar read books and just smoked copious amounts of pot...Lol shed smoke like a half in 2 days... I didn't give a fuck tho.
>>7625905
>Because definitely not for WOMEN.
>>7626028
>feminine traits don't equate to childish traits
actually femininity correlates with neoteny
the reason why many white trannies will never pass is because they are less neotenous by default than say asians
>>7626047
Me?!?!?!??!?!?!??!
>>7626110
Lolololol
>>7626110
Are you Native American? You look like a gypsy tbqh
>>7626129
Yeah I'm Lenni Lenape Two spirit. of the Ramapo turtle clan! #NODAPL!
I'm only 2 months into hormones :( but I think in a year ill be ready to melt men into ash.
>>7625940
Anybody? I'm 6 foot 1 btw.
>>7626144
didnt think there would be any dark natives still residing near New York/New Jersey area, with all the race mixing
>>7626186
We are fighting to still keep what little land we owe. Big brother wants to put a pipeline through one of the few plots of land we own still lol..
Little cool thing about me. Me and my sister are the last of the original chief's bloodline.
>>7626110
>That gigantic, masculine skull with expanded facial planes
Skullchan would be one happy faggot
>>7626110
>dat long philtrum
>dat hairline recession
>dat nose
>literally no boobs
you're not even close to passing in this pic let alone in real life
gtfo
>>7626110
Damn, I didn't know Goebbels could make for a pretty trap!
Can I become your flat mate?
>>7626144
Disregard nasty comments from people who want women to look like babies. You are pretty and I could make you a woman... if you wanted.
>>7626461
>Is this why white people equate them?
hahaha you're a shitskin nigger aren't you
brown people are ugly
>>7625475
>More facial hair which shadows/stubble are visible against white skin, and are the tallest race.
Why the fuck are people talking about facial hair in this thread? You guys didn't actually let yourselves grow facial hair, did you?
>>7626498
Of course he could, I'm sure he was physically weaker than his own wife.
>>7626990
Yeah, I think Christine Jorgensen looked a bit like Goebbels before her transition.
>>7627008
Good find!
>>7625779
pretty much this
i'd make an ftm version but i'm bad enough at individual white ethnicities to figure it out
things i've noticed:
>black ftms are god-tier like asian mtfs if they can overcome the tendency towards pear shaped bodies (or even if they don't, black women have more ass than hips so have greater body shape changes on t), but note the height gap between black men and black women is wider than average
>asian ftms are reasonably well-off because east asians in general are pretty androgynous
>white mediterranean ftms can blend in okay with cis men due to mediterranean men being ridiculously short, hairiness is freakish due to compounding effect of mediterranean hair and ftm hair
>>7625846
I counter this by proposing that in many western countries the almost caricature faces of north Germans pass really well if the woman is a dyke.
>>7626176
go for looking like a lesbian at first, and maybe. think more "girltrash all night long" and less "kardashian" to pass.
>>7626640
better ebony than a wigger
>>7625579
>>Blacks: Easy to pass because most black women are huge and look like men anyway
I really hate this line of thinking. I want to be pretty, feminine, and passing on the same standard that other races are held to.Whats worse is that the women in my family don't even have the curves and boobs that black women are known for. So I ended up with the predominant body shape of the women in my family, slim, but wide shoulders and narrow hips.
Supposedly I do, but even still.... I fucking hate being black, the worst race for a lot of reasons.
>>7628582
>So I ended up with the predominant body shape of the women in my family, slim, but wide shoulders and narrow hips.
So you've reached white people's ideal of feminine! Aren't you happy?
Left: white people's ideal of feminine.
Right: black/Latin people's ideal of feminine.
>>7628582
Wow. I thought I was the only black transwoman on this board.
But yeah, being black does suck. Especially if you have a huge nose or weird hips. At least the women in my family have big tits?
>>7625579
You should always assume the worst anon.
>>7625475
Difficult: East and West Slavs, East Asians
Super Hard: Southeast/South Asian, Middle Eastern, Southern Europeans
Don't even try: Celtic, Germanic, Black, Native American
There is no "easy" in the world of trans girls. Contrary to most people, the races I have the most contact with pass easier.
The whole idea of race determining whether someone can pass is a complete meme.
you can find examples of passable and unpassable peeps on all ends of the spectrum. It really only comes down to your own genetics. Early transition works for any background, beyond male puberty it's really a gamble, race means very little at that point
>>7628582
Well obviously there's tons of variation within each race people here don't bother to account for. A lot of the people here are retarded enough to say shit like all East Asians pass.
Just do your best with whatever stats you have senpai. Tall and slim is usually good and desirable body type.
>>7637161
>Tall and slim is usually good and desirable body type.
White people's idea of feminine
pushed on black women.
>>7638297
Sure, being a short fat pear is pretty feminine, but a tall model-esque shape is way more flattering.
>>7625889
>There are some asian countries or provinces where being a tranny is the norm for asian boys.
...where do you believe this is the case?
>>7640392
Pakistan, India, Pacific.
>>7625579
Why do people feel the need to signal over the smallest thing? YES, some people genuinely just don't find blacks attractive. Is that really so shocking to you? Are they not allowed this thoughtcrime on the Just Wow planet?
>>7625905
>>7625943
>>7626534
>>7630117
>>7638297
Butt lifts are one of the five most common plastic surgeries performed on black women. Pretending that black women all come by Hottentot proportions naturally is a joke.
>>7640591
What's stopping white women from following the suit?
THEIR WHITE NATURE.
Being flat is a state of mind.
>>7626110
Id totally date you. But I'm in Chicago.
>>7626110
I would totally date you but I'm in Chicago
>>7643668
Why are you in Chicago? What kind of help do you need to stop being in Chicago?
>>7644823
None. It's great where I am.
>>7625475
it's a well-known fact that southeast asians, east asians, slavs and nordics have an easier time passing, in that order.
hairy people like mediterraneans and menas and also endomorph people like samoans are the opposite.
>>7625779
>Hard mode: Whites (Northern),
kek'd hard, height aside, most scandinavians are feminine as fuck, both in look and behavior
thanks to the american-controlled western media, people think nordics all look like thor and freyja
in reality, the average nordic male looks closer to yohio than to alexander skarsgard
white people, in general, are feminine compared to their closest relatives (sandniggers)
>>7644964
>It's great
>>7644964
You don't even know what you miss by not being in Chicago. Chicago is a forgotten city. I bet you still listen to Frank Sinatra. Nobody thinks about Chicago in 2017. Only old or inept people still live there. Everything that matters happens in Tianjin.
O, to live in jolly Tianjin for one night!
Is everything I need before I die.
>>7628471
>wigger
But nobody likes wiggers, not even niggers.
>>7645101
Really out of the loop here
>>7645014
How? Think I'm dodging bullets on the way to work?
>>7645327
Your granddaughter is asking why you are not with us in Tianjin. It's so much fun here. Dickgirls have strawberry flavour.
Tianjin has everything.
Come, join us.
“It's so much fun in Tianjin,” she said. “Why is grampa not with us?”
>Tianjin has everything.
>Local dickgirls are famous for strawberry flavour.
>>7640591
I'd like to see some evidence for that claim. and also. What's more of a joke is to say that most black women look manly. That's fucking ridiculous. Black women are known for their big asses and breast. Stop with the fucking denial.
>>7626110
That's not you. Why do you post someone else's pictures all around /lgbt/ and act like an attentionwhore? How obsessed are you with this person?
>>7625826
It's fucking hilarious that people on 4chan say things like "most black people" as if they ever have any contact with real black people and not hand picked examples from the internet.
>>7649232
>Black women are known for their big asses and breast.
BUT BIG ASS AND BREASTS IS WHITE PEOPLE'S IDEA OF MANLY. You can't apply healthy logic to white people.
>>7625475
its almost like each race finds it easier to pass to people not their race and since you're white you think its you
wow
>>7625475
Take this horseshit to /lgbt/
>>7652114
>>7652117
Go back to 4chan.
>>7640664
Flat is elegant, curvy is uncivilized.
>>7640591
>YES, some people genuinely just don't find blacks attractive.
Thats preference. Thats not what Im talking about. There's this almost violent hatred for blacks and the concept of black beauty in america that I just assumed was just a regional thing since I grew up in the south (and despite the kinds of porn people look at mostly in the south and other parts of america) but apparently its nation wide and too a bizarre degree. I dont know, I guess I was just sheltered or something. I knew race relations where bad in america, i just didn't know to what extent. I didn't know we kinda ceassed progress right after the 1960's
>>7652380
You've captured white people's antisexuality in one line.
>>7630222
And yes. Its awesome to see another black trans person around these parts
>>7655054
I'm just glad to hear from other Black people on this board!
>>7655054
>>7655084
This board belongs to Allah, kafir get out.
>>7655046
>>7655054
>I would kill to be a short pear -_-
My wifu! It's easy. All those thicc ciswomen are high-estrogen AND high-testosterone AND squat heavy. I will marry you if you follow my programme.
>>7655115
Allah loves us.
>>7655046
>small boobs run in my family
Theres always implants?
I'm secretly hoping for a dormant Hypertrophy gene to kick in a bit and give me gigantic knockers since even C's dont make me look balanced because I have kind of a deformed ribcage.
>And yes. Its awesome to see another black trans person around these parts
So have you had problems with hair at all? Mine perpetually looks like garbage until I can find some free time to pour over info online about it.
>>7655271
Whats the routine? I want an ass like that!
Also:
>Mfw those shoulders.
>>7655271
P-please share this program with me...
>>7656148
>>7656247
>>7656362
>Whats the routine?
Come on, you know it.
SHORT ANSWER: bodybuilding. Thiccness = fat + muscles.
LONG ANSWER:
1. Weight lifting with emphasis on leg training.
2. Weight gain.
3. No anti-androgens. (!)
4. Fap. Eat cum.
5. Anabolic steroids.
6. No anti-estrogens. (!)
There is no road to thiccness without testosterone because nobody grows muscles without testosterone. There is no such thing as a thicc woman without testosterone.
You can do anti-androgen therapy after the training cycle but it will probably make your lower body skinny again.
>>7656926
>no anti-androgens
>anabolic steroids
Lol. No way in hell I'm doing that. I'll just do the weight lifting and weight gain.
>>7656929
Is estrogen alone not good enough without anti-androgens?
The goal is to be feminine and that's what estrogen does. Anti-androgens merely make you a wimpy woman. That's how I understand it.
>>7656940
Anti-androgens are necessary for results that aren't shit, as long as you still have functional testes. Basically if your T levels are above 80 ng/dL, you are fucked.
Yeah you are gonna be weaker than the average cis woman because your T levels will be lower and your muscles will atrophy. But it's better than having your face wrecked.
>>7656945
>Basically if your T levels are above 80 ng/dL, you are fucked.
Do ciswomen in the pic look like their T levels are below 80?
They don't (I think) and they ain't half-ugly.
>>7656945
>But it's better than having your face wrecked.
I think that an ugly woman is better than a flat woman.
But then, all ugly women that I see are flat women.
Somehow, I never see an ugly thicc woman.
Maybe thiccness is just healthy.
A pretty face without thicc body is simply of no use to me. I can print a picture of a pretty face and hang it on the wall – for the same effect.
A sex partner must have a body built for sex. Face is second priority.
>>7625475
>How to pass
Die
Get headstone that says you were s woman in life
Win
>>7625740
Is that Jesus
>>7625579
you should really start paying attention to facial features on black women
other than skull size, at least half of black women are nearly indistinguishable from black men
>>7658188