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>Fantasized about genderbending even as a kid; could never

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>Fantasized about genderbending even as a kid; could never figure out why I liked the idea
>Thought of self as a boy and tried to be manly
>Hit puberty; start cross-dressing and masturbating to these fantasies; Standard AGP stuff
>Thought of self as a man with a strange fetish that he just happens to masturbate to exclusively
>Depressed for UNKNOWN REASONS ever since puberty
>Start getting hit by periods of intense TFW NOT A WOMAN :( around 20
>They come and go but intensify over time
>Can be fine for months but they always come back at some point
How can I tell whether this is dysphoria or I'm just projecting my fetish on my depression? I don't have this innate sense of gender identity. I don't feel like a man or a woman or whatever. Just that I'd much rather have a woman's body.
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>>7620359
>How can I tell whether this is dysphoria or I'm just projecting my fetish on my depression?
it's dysphoria
those are the same thing in an agp context
>I don't have this innate sense of gender identity. I don't feel like a man or a woman or whatever. Just that I'd much rather have a woman's body.
absolutely nobody has an 'innate gender identity' and it's a myth started by agp trans women who don't want to admit it was agp and just claim they were women on some theoretical level that influenced absolutely nothing else about them (especially bizarre when they're next to non-agp trans women who acted like women pre-transition and got incredible amounts of shit for it)
you are describing the same thing that, statistically, 70-90% of western trans women experience
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>>7620404
>who acted like incredibly gay men pre-transition
FTFY
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>>7620359
AAAH OP R U ME?

i pretty much had the exact same experiances and at those ages, those feelings of wanting to be female increased even more and became unbearable,

when i read this article
>https://learningtrans.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/serano-agreview-ijt.pdf
everything made sense and i accepted it wasn't just a fetish and i needed to act. before it was too late.

Do yourself a favor OP, get on hormones as soon as you can, self med f you have to, just do it at all costs. I was 24 when i started hrt, and my biggest regret in life is how long i had wasted being poisoned by testosterone.
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>>7620359
Yeah you must be trans because you masturbated a lot and you know masturbation means you like something. Just like that guy that wants to be a foot literally like the monty python foot and he masturbated to feet too.
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>>7620438
but he masturbated to becoming a women, not to women in general. Did the guy you mention masturbate to feet? or the thought of becoming a foot? there is a big difference
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>>7620404
>>7620437
Thanks for the responses.

>>7620438
Anon, are you trying to make a point in good faith? If so I do not understand it. You've made no mention of the depressive episodes full of longing. Generally speaking other kinds of fetishists don't spend months depressed because they can't, say, become feet. I'm not convinced I'm trans or I wouldn't have asked but neither am I convinced that this can be so easily dismissed.
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>>7620429
this. there was an interview on tv relating to this http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/01/21/caught-on-video-transgender-woman-attacked-in-center-city/
and the tranny just sounded like a flaming fag
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>>7620359
One easy way for you to tell is to start AAs and not estrogen. When you have no sex hormones you wont be anywhere near as aroused by anything. At the 3 month mark you still feel bad about not being a woman then you know it isn't a fetish.
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>>7623261
Are there any negative health repercussions to doing this?
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>>7628426
Having no sex hormone may make you tired and depressed.
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>>7628441
I see. This is something I should consider trying then. Thank you.
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>>7628446
Taking no sex hormones for too long is actually a pretty bad idea, it can lead to a loss in bone density. Better idea is to actually seek out a therapist who is experienced in sex/gender, and to see how they diagnose you. If you really want to go the "use hormones to see if I'm trans" route, then you should not leave out Estrogen.
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>>7620359
Jesus christ same, judging by the this thread We're not the only 2. Do you think this is a subtype of AGP, or ?

Btw I started Hormones at 18, they haven't made me happy but I prefer E to T.
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>>7635498
>Do you think this is a subtype of AGP, or ?
From what I've heard from others like us this pretty much IS "AGP", with most people having prepubescent fantasies that become sexual around the age of 12 rather than the other way around. I've only ever ran into two people who fit Blanchard's account so I suspect that he got things wrong.

>they haven't made me happy
What's the issue? Still-present dysphoria?
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>>7635633
Oh god it was literally the age of 12, for me it's actually uncomfortable how predictable this is...

>What's the issue? Still-present dysphoria?

I've kind of lost motivation to transition.

I doubt I could pass without FFS, I have no money and a shitty job.
It does, however have the potential for advancement and I just want to be able to work, my industry is not one where transition would go well.

I think E has quieted most of my intense dysphoria, I can cope.

I don't even know what to do.
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In my case I realized it was a potent combination of A) an OCD fueled anxiety storm of questioning whether I might be trans, B) bisexuality-leaning-homosexual that I'd never really come to terms with, and C) having a fetish. Add that all up and for a time it made me think I was experiencing dysphoria.

Then I recognized it for what it was and the anxiety evaporated basically overnight. Now I'm treated for the OCD and am content with my porn.

I remember a couple months later I was reading an article about a transman fratstar who was being helped by his fraternity to raise money for top surgery amd realized I identified way more with that account than I ever did the mtf accounts I'd spent so much time reading and realized what an enormous fucking idiot I'd been.
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>>7638592
If you had the money would you get FFS?

>>7639388
Glad to hear things worked out for you.
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>>7641053
Yeah I would, that's gonna take a long time though.
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>>7620359
Oh hello my childhood
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>>7620359
>How can I tell whether this is dysphoria or I'm just projecting my fetish on my depression?
I would say a bit of both.
>I don't have this innate sense of gender identity
Same, I call my self "gender fluid" because it really fits me and how I feel.
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>>7620437
>>7635498
>>7638592
>>7643448
>>7643456
Please share your stories.
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>>7643837
>I remember being like 5-6 years old and having several dreams about being a girl/becoming a girl
>I was so young that the exact differences between males and females weren't exactly clear to me
>age 8-9 saw documentary about trans people.
>remember thinking to myself "if all my family die, I will have a "sex change""
>clearly then I thought these feelings where shameful

Despite these really weird thoughts, being male didn't really bother me too much.

fast forward to 12 years old
>Accidently masturbate for the first time trying to tuck.
>this morphs into reading cringy shit on fictionmania

>discover /r/asktransgender
>realise I *still* want to be a girl
>peruse medical transition
>UK is the UK so long waiting times and stuff
>eventually get on blockers at like 17
>E at 18

Still 18, still AGP and pretty sad about it.


I'm
>>7638592
>>7635498
btw
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>>7620359
Start hormones, it'll probably just get worse otherwise
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>have fetish dreams
>aroused
>but deeply disturbed the whole time
this fetish sucks you guys
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>>7644819
>12 years old
>discover /r/asktransgender
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>7638592
>>7644819
>I don't even know what to do
Don't give up. AGP only rarely sticks around for more than a few years after you socially and medically transition.
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>>7646572
I hope so ^_^
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