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• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• buddi
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
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>>7588189
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nth for who /numale/ here
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>>7589118
nümalé
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SO U WANNA BE A T GURL???
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hugg ren
>>7589118
>tfw so numale I became a girl
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buzzu buzzu
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>>7589120
ye
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>>7589110
Awwww cute cow.
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mooo
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I am a man who will fight for your honour.
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>>7589123
hugg buzz
>>7589122
hugg ambi
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>>7589120
aye
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Hi I'm holding a competition where we all reply to this post with our messaging service usernames (including but not limited to kik)
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>>7589120
no just a girl please
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what was your high school attire

mine was black hoodie/winter jacket that I never took off and jeans
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>>7589128

I don't need that. Can you give me a vigorous pounding and then be my little spoon? That is what I want from a man.
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>>7589132
[email protected]
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>>7589108
>omg...why am i blushing at this.
Same. See: >>7589114

He is everything I ever wanted in a human and more. I don't understand why he loves a tranny like me. It just doesn't make sense but I don't question it. What are the odds my best friend in the world ends up being a chaser-esque. But he is the right kind of chaser, only dated cis girls, doesn't love or mind my penis, just loves me for who I am and also appreciates my body for what it is.

>>7589106
Really it depends on what kind of work you are looking for. Add me on skype and we can discuss price easier: Dreamsura


>>7589099
>is this the sugar daddy
no that guy was a serial predator and scammer. I posted about it a bunch in older Mtfg threads.

I am sort of in a relationship with my best friend of like a decade.
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>>7589132
[email protected]
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>>7589134
Male school uniform. That's what things are like in Chile.
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>>7589134
Wellll not one to brag but I rolled with one of the cooler crowds in high school haha, usually wore some dark stuff to express how we felt!
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>>7589114
Ah sorry to make it sound so blunt, a good companionship is a good companionship regardless of body hair levels & genitals. Usually when people here talk about men they just want to get fucked and I find that a bit silly and shallow. I'm really glad you have a fulfilling relationship going on! I'm meeting my partner for the first time irl tomorrow, we've known each other for some 9 months online but the distance has been an issue. Makes me a bit anxious but also excited :p
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>>7589139
wtf
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>>7589134
Baggy black hoodie that I never took off
Plain baggy t-shirt
Baggy jeans
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>>7589134
>>7589148
is this trutrans because that's what i wore
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>>7589135
I am a submissive tranny, not a lusting man.
The line is metaphorical.
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>>7589130

You may have a hugg. Take care of it, for I have so very few.

>>7589134

Baggy carpenter jeans, ill-fitting t-shirts, and a ragged hoodie that I took to patching with different colors and mismatched thread.
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hi mtfg whats up
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I want to fug elanna
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these new trips are kinky hose
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>>7589152
I'm the same, I think it must be.
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>>7589152
same here, seems like it
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>>7589157
grace

clean you're room
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>>7589157
hi grace :3
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accidentally made my bf really mad fugg
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>>7589155
>>7589152
>>7589148
>>7589134
>tfw this is STILL my aesthetic
kms desu
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>>7589128
hey neptune
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>>7589148
This is me in high school.

>>7589144
>I find that a bit silly and shallow
I'm not slutty nor shallow unless its for money or love.
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>>7589120
No I want to be a man
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>>7589165
it's still my aesthetic too famalam
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>>7589157
yr tuck isn't that fucked up looking irl lol
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>>7589165
welcome 2 the club
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>>7589167
judging by those boymode features you look fucking gorgeous
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>>7589157
Hey Grace how was your day?
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>>7589166
I am the tower
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>>7589134
I worked at Abercrombie so

You do the math
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>>7589154

Oh, my apologies.

>>7589152

trutrans confirmed

>>7589164

Oh no! Is it because his dad knows you're fucking? That's very awkward.
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>>7589152
Like almost every tranny I've ever talked to about it has said the same, so I think so.
It works great for hiding a body that you're ashamed of.

>>7589158
Get some taste
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>>7589165
im gonna be rocking the sweater again in a few weeks

tits are starting to come in
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>>7589134
You wouldnt believe all the pussy I pulled in this bad boy.
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Eventually I'll be the only one in this thread who doesn't lewdpost. You will all be talking about sucking dicks or whatever and I will be here, screaming about how everything I don't like is a spook.
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>>7589169
>>7589173
cri evry tim

>>7589184
Literally me every day now.

>>7589172
Mine is. i cant tuck for shit.
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so my best friend in school turned out to also be trans how neat is that

We never talked about it at all but I wonder if it was subconsciously why we were friends
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>>7589181
no he's mad i haven't eaten in days
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>>7589162
buh
not todayyyyyyy
im gonna go back to sleep soon i think
soon! maybe tomorrow ill work on it
>>7589163
hi nimmy
>>7589172
i think she was just trying to imitate some of the wrinkles in my pants, not a bulge
>>7589176
hi anon
my day was okay i guess
sucked
i had a long day at work on 3 hours of lseep
and then i napped the whole night
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>>7589186
lenin was a dumbo
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>>7589134
>>7589152
>>7589165
i still dress like this
i have worn the same jeans boots and sweatshirt for like 2 years straight because i'm detached from my body
my body is like a puppet to me, i don't really care what it looks like anymore
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so uh, is there a good tucking tutorial?
>>7589134
we had a uniform (Catholic school) but it was p laid back
khaki pants, polo shirt that was p loose, a sweatshirt as long as isn't wasn't like 90 degrees
>>7589165
my aesthetic is baggy t shirt and jeans, always has been desu
>>7589164
uh oh
>>7589130
tfw no lauren to hang out with
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>>7589184
What will you do in the summer?
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>>7589157
flannel, she's in a plane :o)

>>7589134
My setup:
>black baggy hoodie
>white baggy t-shirt
>generic jeans
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>>7589134
Don't they have school uniform in America?
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>>7589190
What do you do for work? Are you girl mode there?
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>>7589201
not in most public schools
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>>7589201
no
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>>7589189

That's valid. You should eat. Don't make me go on and on about the problems created by malnutrition.
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>>7589197
i live in florida its always summer

>>7589190
how you been
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>>7589201
Very very few schools do nowadays, unless you are rich and go to a private school.
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>>7589186
I never lewdpost either. Not sure why.
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>>7589201
only private/Christian schools really
used to have a really formal uniform one year before I left the school, it sucked total ass
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>>7589208
i would if i could
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>>7589210
Hi nimmer <3
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>>7589191
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>7589219
b-b-but they taste good
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>>7589175
>judging by those boymode features you look fucking gorgeous
You mean look gorgeous now?

LuL, that was before testosterone fucked me up senpai.
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>>7589186
i don't lewdpost
that sorta shit is too positive
it wouldn't match my demeanour
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>>7589219
r u as excited for bbc month as I??
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>>7589188
i honestly won't be surprised if i ever learn that my hs friend transitioned, but they also could be in prison for serial rape or something, they were fucked in the head and had huge issues with girls
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welp that was fun getting fussed at. i feel like a giant fuck up now
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>>7589230
makes it all the more likely that they transitioned to be their own gf
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>>7589206
>>7589207
>>7589207
>>7589211
>>7589215
Oh lucky you. I had to wear a suit and tie to school for 5 years.
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>>7589234
who cares?
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>>7589230
>had huge issues with girls
like what
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>>7589223
awh im sorry to hear that, still tho i bet you look qt
there's only so much damage T can do
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>tfw the summer break period is starting to end
>still don't have any motivation to do anything
>gonna have to start telling people that i'm going to continue to do and be nothing
it sucks that death is so far away
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>>7589216

>could

What's up? Gastrointestinal distress? Broken jaw? Crippling poverty? Crippling depression? I have suffered from 3/4 of these at once and it is not easy to shovel unseasoned beans and rice down your gullet under those conditions.
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>>7589236
(you) two


(you)
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>>7589203
I work in fast food
And yeah i'm girlmode
I'm always girlmode
I don't boymode anymore, it makes me feel bad
>>7589210
okedoke i guess, im sleepy
how are you
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>>7589240
>there's only so much damage T can do
spoken from a true place of privilege

i swear it's liek we're living in two entirely different worlds, jesus fucking christ just let me die already
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>>7589219
Someday, but we elected trump so maybe next decade
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>>7589236
I like suits though. I wish that was acceptable at my school.
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>>7589219
>>7589229
>Black history month
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>>7589152
Yes, i only wore baggy hoodies and sweat pants every day. Oddly enough a ftm in the same grade only ever wore blank hoodie and baggy jeans every day
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>>7589241
where are you? the moon? lol
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>>7589188
My best friend in school is now a weed smoking Chad.
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>>7589244
no money for food bc no job. my bf asked me why I've been do moody lately and I let it slip without thinking that Friday was the last time I ate and he blew up at me
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>>7589217
hmmm

hello

>>7589248
eh, im okay

school started, doing classwork

working on my site

turning into a chick kinda

usual stuff
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>>7589250
i was talking about her specifically nigga, i know what a vile poison T is but if you looked that pretty in HS you should be somewhat okay at least
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>>7589229
FAKE NEWS Malcom X all talk no action SAD

- Donald trump
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>>7589256
the southern hemisphere
it's summer in south america, africa, australia, new zealand, etc
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>>7589240
I guess.. Could be worse, could be better. I didn't start transitioning till 24. I was always feminine and smol though. Still hate my god damn brow.

pic: me about a month ago.

>>7589236
Add me on Skype Shakira.
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>>7589253
kill yourself
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>>7589236
I want to wear dress shirt and tie again
I think it looks nice on girls..
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>>7589258
you should reconnect with him
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>>7589265
Ćütë
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>>7589255
>Oddly enough a ftm in the same grade only ever wore blank hoodie and baggy jeans every day
yeah that's how it goes
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>>7589259
do you want money for food
and get on snap
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>>7589267
no proof yet
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>>7589120
Yes doc.

>>7589134
>what was your high school attire
When warm enough, dress shirt and cutoff shorts. Otherwise dress shirt and faded blue jeans. The dress shirt was always clean and pressed. In warmer weather I'd roll up the sleeves. The jeans were very faded and soft. My size didn't change from freshman to sr, my legs just got an inch longer.

>>7589164
Good luck! Hope it goes well.

>>7589193
Disassociation...I know that state.
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>>7589260
<3
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>>7589259

Let him feed you! Do not be afraid to ask for help when you need it. Alternatively / supplementarily: wallow your pride and visit a food pantry, they're very helpful when you're in a tight spot. Really! They are there for you. If you feel guilty, kick back a few cans of veggies and boxes of pasta when you have money again.
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>>7589235
yeah i don't like thinking about that person desu, they were super toxic

also they had really long skinny gross fingers

i happen to know they had a feminine penis :o

>>7589238
nice guy fedora tipping syndrome to the max. he'd pretend to be a decent normal person to try to get to know girls and then when that didn't translate into a romantic relationship he'd go psycho

their parents weren't retarded like mine and they ended up having better resources available so if they are trans they probably got help a lot sooner but are still hideous
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>>7589276
I've actually been looking all over and there wasn't fuck all for button ups with collars ;~;
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>>7589261
naahhhhh i'm genetic trash dude
i'm pure blockhead eastern euro peasant cattle tier TRAAAAASH
i'm so ugly, i'm living in a different world i can't stress that enough
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>>7589273
>the ftm is an overcompensating manlet
>the mtf is a stereotype
image is the truth
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chara buy me pizza~
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>>7589272
rlly? <3

>>7589273
I love that picture. Same here though. Black hoody and skinny jeans every day of my life till transition.
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>>7589293
:p
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>>7589289
like i used to be cute in high school too is what i'm saying but now i'm just fucking garbage
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>>7589188
I think I'm the only one from my high school class that's trans
>>7589273
that metapod one
me from 14-21
>tfw tried to get away with as long of hair as possible
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>>7589274
idk how but I'll try

>>7589282
i think he's mad at me so I'm scared to talk to him now and I don't think he wants to talk rn anymore

I regret even saying anything. I'll look into that other stuff
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>>7589290
>mtf super tall
>ftm super small
God aint this the truth

>tfw 6'2'' :(((
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>>7589259
Make use of the food pantries, etc..
this >>7589274
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>>7589256
Summer is in January in the southern hemisphere.
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>>7589309
do you have Skype or something i can send you $25
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>>7589273
>tfw you are stuck eternally in the middle stage
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>>7589120
>SO U WANNA BE A T GURL???
When I first figured myself out I was traumatized by that website :/

>>7589134
>what was your high school attire
Baggy jeans, various oversized band tshirts and a trenchcoat.

>>7589157
>hi mtfg whats up
Harro. I've had a headache all day. I blame sublingual estrogen or caffeine withdrawal, I'm not sure which.
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Tfw forever pain
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>>7589316
>>7589264
i was trying to troll leave me alone
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>>7589319
>>7589323
copy that
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>>7589309
>idk how but I'll try
https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/apply
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>>7589265
Pretty enough and I envy your makeup skills. I look like pic related every time I try and mess with something other than mascara and foundation. God I wish I knew how to use eyeliner (if it somehow even works with my mongol lids)
>Black hoody and skinny jeans every day of my life till transition.
Amen to that.

>>7589229
Didn't this guy get murdered by his own followers after he realized what a loonie he had been and tried to backpedal out of the deep end?

>>7589289
I'm sorry to hear that anon :(
You can still save yourself if you can afford FFS though, some of those surgeons do a pretty amazing job these days.
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>>7589311
6'2 is ideal female height
>>7589308
i had long hair most of my childhood but then went through this gross period where i had short hair
i looked so fucking bad
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>>7589325
eh it doesn't matter
i'm neither upset or happy at your attempt
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>>7589321
>trenchcoat
A G P
G
P
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I hope everyone is doing okay
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>>7589309
https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/apply
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>>7589309

He's likely angry because you didn't eat for three days and didn't even mention it to him. He probably feels like you don't trust him enough to be vulnerable and ask for help. He'd only be mad at you if he actually cared, and clearly he does. Talk to him. Apologize for not mentioning it earlier or asking for help, because he probably would really have wanted to and feels terrible that he didn't have the chance to. Closing up and not talking to him is only making it worse.
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>>7589318
i have skype yeah
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>>7589331
>tfw never had long hair
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>lonely
>transition to become my own gf
>take hrt
>now I want a bf
the meme failed : (
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>>7589331
I still have a pic from after the last haircut I got, it looks so terrible
ughh my hair could be even longer right now if i wasn't dumb that day
>>7589344
that's how it gets you senpai
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>>7589334
why thank you, babe.

>>7589328
>Pretty enough
Thanks :)

>envy your makeup skills
Ahhhh, I still have much to learn. I've been doing makeup for about a year and a half now.

> mongol lids
REEEEEE lucky asian genes get out!!! reee
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>>7589342
i have a $25 prepaid card right here ill send you the number
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>>7589265
I like your look
And your room
Sure what is your skype?
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>>7589343
I had long hair all of my life up until my 20's where I shaved it off and went into deep repression before finally cracking and medically altering my body to grow tits.

:^)
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>>7589331

>6'2"

Will I shrink on horomones?
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>>7589288
i wish i go buy girl clothes
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>puberty was kind to me
>dragged my feet with transition
>suddenly catches up almost overnight
>now that it's already too late the urgency to transition has reached it's maximum
why the fuck is this so fucking fucked fuck fuck fuck
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>>7589355
im 6'0 after being 6'2 since i was like 14 but im doubtful it was hormones
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>>7589359
it's not already too late anon
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>>7589349
it's popstarahrii
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>>7589353
>I like your look
Thanks. I usually dress like I'm on my way to a funeral.

>And your room
It's super messy right now.

>Sure what is your skype?
Dreamsura
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>repress hardcore
>start wearing makeup anyway
>like every day
>break down when it hits me
>start hrt

In hindsight I should have started hrt as soon as i couldnt stop wearing makeup everywhere. Could have saved myself a year :/
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>>7589357

>girl clothes

Shit, you reminded me! I need to get more than just these shitty skirts. Now to make time for the thrift store tomorrow.

Where do you girls do your shopping? Especially early on in the process. I'm trying to build enough of a wardrobe to feel confident and have, like, outfits, but not break the bank.
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>>7589357
Don't let your dreams be memes

>>7589354
My look was awkward short haired wide hipped beta boy with gyno until I finally cracked
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>>7589371
target, amazon
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>>7589371
Salvation army
Platos closet
Sometimes the mall when i have money
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>>7589348
>REEEEEE lucky asian genes get out!!! reee
Fingolian, not actually asian outside memes. My lids just suck, barely any of them visible when I got my eyes open. Hell, I even get some of my mascara on the mongol lid when I open my eyes fully. Of all the features I got from my mom I would have gladly passed on this one.
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>>7589342
I'd paypal you $100 too but my account got deactivated because I owe them money. Trip off because you likely filtered me.
>>7589366
I love the instruments lying around, gives the room atmosphere
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>>7589371
Online
Boutique Stores
Thrift Shops
Fancy Places
Donations

I actually just had a great girl friend of mine from far away send me ~15 different outfits. I feel so fortunate. They all fit and are 100% my edgy funeral home look.

My goal when I started getting clothes was to have a collared dress for each day of the week, now I have like twice that much.

I have an addiction to collared dresses.
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>>7589267
I've seen other trans girls talk about how having to wear a shirt and tie was always so horrible, but on the occasions that I had to do it, I really didn't mind at all.
If anything, it was a nice break from constantly being expected to dress in the same style of bland casual clothes as all the guys in my grade.

Also, I'm kinda curious to see what I'd look like in a shirt and tie now.

>>7589372
>wide hipped with gyno before starting hrt
Lucky. ;~;
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>>7589364
it feels like it though

i mean, i'm probably gonna start anyway
but like
i'm upset at how things have played out
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>>7589377

>salvation army

I used to work at the one in my town. I don't want to support the organization, but it'd be delicious to buy a cartful of woman clothes and look my born-again former manager in the eye.

I'll check out Plato's Closet, though, and have been meaning to swing through the Savers and Goodwill that are also in my area.
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>>7589343
>"i'm leaving, see you all in a week"
>back the next day
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>>7589387
>liked wearing a suit aswell
It was nice getting to dress up and make myself look nice for once. Even if it was a stupid boy suit i liked playing dressup lol
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>>7589372
>wide hipped
>gyno

Are you intersex/kleinfelter? You luckiiii bitch

>>7589378
Okay fair enough. But trust me, there are so many amazing cosplay makeup tutorials that will teach you how to do your asian monolids 100% sexy and bad ass.

>>7589381
>I love the instruments lying around, gives the room atmosphere
Better than trash I suppose. :^)
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>>7589391
It was too good to be true.
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>>7589371
how the hell should i know im just a guy with long hair

>>7589372
i already fell for the tranny meme
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>>7589391
Is this a tranny? Her brow is fierce.
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>>7589400
No ur a cute girl like the rest of us :)
>>7589390
Platos closet is somewhat recently fashionable clothes super cheap. You can sell them your clothes too but they wont take some stuff
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>>7589371
I did most of my early transition shopping at old navy but it's kind of shite
Probably always was

>>7589387
Yeah idk I was pretty neutral on it beforehand
Nowadays I think they'd just be cute, I think shirt and tie look really good on girls
Also, probably should have figured that reacting to gyno with "gee I wish these were bigger" should have been a red flag.

>>7589395
I've been tested for ks but turned up negative. Havn't been tested for anything else. I suspect low T, probably self inflicted given what I did when I was 11

>>7589391
I have nothing better to do with my timeee
Raincheck for when I get home
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>>7589393

When I started wearing clothes that fit and actually made an effort to look good, I started to notice things I liked and didn't like about my body. Those got mixed up with what I knew looked good. I knew I looked good in a beard, so I wore one, but really I didn't like it. I really liked the curve of my hips and would lowkey fish for compliments on them all the time because they were what I actually liked about my body. Realizing that helped me come around to "oh I'm trans"
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>>7589411
What'd you do when you were 11
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>>7589395
I trust you! I will get some non-liquid eyeliner and see how I do with that. The one I got now is basically a sharpie and it gets EVERYWHERE. You're a rad trip btw, really like chatting withchu!
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>>7589417
Rubberband around the balls
Left it there until I couldn't take the pain anymore
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>>7589422
Why
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>>7589405
not everyone's a tranny, y'know
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>>7589422
i think i remember doing some weird stuff to myself down there too actually

i dont remember what it was tho

hmmm
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>>7589418
Yes, definitely! You have to learn how to do liner for your eye type. A lot of younger asian women have the same issue!

>You're a rad trip btw,
Damn, I'm getting all kinds of love today. Thank you!

>>7589411
>self inflicted
Do elaborate. I think I had low T too. I was always tiny and frail. People would tell me to, "wait till my balls dropped" based on my voice even when I was 17. lol
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Are there any wigs you guys would recommend that are <50$?
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>>7589427
thatsthememe.tiff
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>>7589422
Was it worth it?
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>>7589412
>I really liked the curve of my hips and would lowkey fish for compliments on them all the time because they were what I actually liked about my body
Haha are you me?
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I was just using Tinder and accidentally swiped right on some disgusting obese hon with a profile with a bunch of disgusting OTT sexual language and describing themselves as a "tgurl". I'm not even transphobic but that was actually fucking revolting. I unmatched them seconds later without saying anything
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>>7589422
Fuck I shoulda done this too. Why wasn't I smarter?
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>>7589422
I'm glad you didn't end up dying from that
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>>7589393
Yeah, the "getting dressed up" part of it was kinda fun.
And I think part of why I didn't mind it is because suits are a thing that women actually wear and look good in sometimes. If they were more of a "guys only" thing, then I might have been more bothered.

>>7589411
>reacting to gyno with "gee I wish these were bigger" should have been a red flag.
wew

>>7589412
>I really liked the curve of my hips and would lowkey fish for compliments on them all the time because they were what I actually liked about my body.
I went through a phase when I was trying to repress and lift and be manly.
When I noticed gains in my chest or arms, I would feel happy in the sense of "I'm achieving my goals!", but when I noticed in my legs or glutes, it made me happy in a much more internal, intrinsic way.
In retrospect, that probably should have been a red flag, but at the time I just thought I was a guy who enjoyed having nice legs and glutes.
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>>7589422
>>7589429

When I was old enough to have fierce, painful boners but not old/smart enough to figure out what to do with them, I would spool my penis up with my briefs, as many turns as I could. I'm pretty sure the rough cotton left me bleeding a few times around the glans. It wasn't quite pleasurable, but it was somehow satisfying.

>>7589443

No I'm more of a hon
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>>7589425
Idk, just felt compelled to do it.
I had heard that cutting off the circulation to limbs could make them go numb or kill them. I kind of wanted to not feel anything down there.

Didn't know I was a tran at the time though.

>>7589430
See >>7589422
Also I seriously know that feeling, like my voice never really fully matured and this is about what I sounded like
https://clyp.it/grgh0vhl
Plus people kept thinking I was underage in clubs it was weird

>>7589440
I'd say so, if it in fact made any sort of difference
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>>7589445
>Tinder

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>7589455
No worries I'm a kissless virgin, just use it out of curiosity.
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>>7589457
I love the ferret pictures
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>>7589458
you have to have a facebook to have tinder you FUCKING NORMIE
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>>7589453
>Also I seriously know that feeling, like my voice never really fully matured and this is about what I sounded like
>https://clyp.it/grgh0vhl

Lmao, same fucking thing here. Here is what my masc voice has been all my life: https://clyp.it/tmyh35dj
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>>7589464
me too
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>>7589467
>has a job
>calls other people normies
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>>7589474
h-h-h-hey you d-d-d-dont know that I h-h-have a job
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tfw too normie to be a robot and to robot to be a normie
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>Watch Family Guy for the first time in forever
>theres a trans person in the episode
>They call her a monster and a freak etc. the entire time
Theres no escape.
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>>7589474
>>>/wizardchan/
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>>7589467
You can make a facebook with 0 friends on it you know.
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>>7589480
you're like the archetypal robot though

>NEET
>virgin
>recluse
>mentally unstable and riddled with anxiety and depression
>little hope of ever getting better
>spend 14 hours a day on 4chan
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Midnight!? I'm gonna pumpkin on out of here.
It's been nice to hang around with you all this evening. Thank you for the advice, perspectives, and conversation. You're all wonderful ladies. Be well! I'll inflict my lectures and bees on you tomorrow, in all likelihood.
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>>7589483
Omg, my dad wanted to watch tv with me after I came out, American Dad was on and it was the episode where Stan was turned into a woman. Super awkward.
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>>7589488
im not a virgin
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>>7589490
See you tomorrow!
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>>7589490
Fuck you honeybee.
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>>7589469
If that's masc then I'm mickey mouse
Srsly though, I got stuck at weird crackly 14 y/o, yours like never broke at all.
Did you have any other low T kind of symptoms?

>>7589452
Bizarre, but that's not exactly far off some of the weirder stuff I've seen people here do with their junk

>>7589450
Idk, my biggest fear was that my family would find out. I took off the band before I thought it would go necrotic or anything but I didn't want to have to go to a doctor and explain that shit

>>7589449
I was honestly tarded enough to do it on an impulse
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>>7589483
>watching family guy
there was your first mistake
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>>7589490
goodnight
hugg
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>>7589469
cute :3
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>>7589497
>im not a virgin
i trusted you, lauren
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>>7589499

God, if only someone would. I might be more tolerable, then.

nn
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>>7589505
that's why I said I was too normie
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY TWEEZERS REEEEEEEE
HAS ANYBODY SEEN THEM
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>>7589469
Holy shit your voice is amazing, literal girl voice im so jelly. I've been practicing voice fulltime for over 9 months and I'm still not even part-time passing
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>>7589497
How is this possible? You never leave your house.
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>>7589510
>not having your tweezers nice and secure with your epilator
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i just had the nicest date and the most bomb sex of my life while high af and now i'm eating a pizza just so serene and so happy and damn dis nice
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>>7589513
i feel ok seeing one person at a time because I know them
its being in public thats the problem because I don't trust/know everyone
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>>7589477
we've all seen you brag about your high-paying programming job, "buddy"
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>>7589519
omg edie that's lewd
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>>7589519
yay i'm glad someone is having a good evening!

i need to work up the mental motivation to try to be happy
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>>7589500
>If that's masc then I'm mickey mouse
lmao

I don't ever remember my voice really cracking a lot.

>Did you have any other low T kind of symptoms?

I don't have a lot of body hair. My facial hair came in extremely slow. I never had a masculine body odor. My frame is small compared to most XY specimens. Was impossible to gain weight and muscle. High voice.

I feel I had a lot of signs. I used to get picked on for being so small and frail but my best friend would always stand up for me and protect me. He is now my lover. <3_<3

>>7589503
nim <3_<3
>>
where i plan on going i will never return
but i'm not going to stay either
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>>7589522
i have been discovered fugggg
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>>7589528
>I don't have a lot of body hair. My facial hair came in extremely slow. I never had a masculine body odor. My frame is small compared to most XY specimens. Was impossible to gain weight and muscle. High voice.
wtf i hate you now
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>>7589515
And your hatchet, in case of a dysphoric emergency
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>>7589526

i'm literally in heaven rn nim ily
i love everyone

>>7589527

best evening :3 and you know my life has sucked quite a bit at times as well and it's not now so yknow things can change
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>make food
>get sad
>don't eat food
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>>7589512
Lol puru!! But I was intentionally using my masculine voice there. Here is my femme voice: https://clyp.it/hxs0wckf

>>7589519
yayyyy. happy for you.
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>>7589535
⊝__⊝
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>>7589519
Edie I wish I had your life.
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>>7589540
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>>7589528
haha there's girly pills that make it so i don't have a masculine body odor too!
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>>7589537
buddi :333
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>>7589539
You should eat still even if you are sad.
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>>7589528
I had most of that shit too ;-;
Apart from the small frame, I ended up like 5'10" with weird proportions, long legs and wide hips it looked weird af, enough so that my shrink was willing to test for klinefelter's. Couldn't put on muscle even when I tried, had gyno and I was flipping out around when I turned 19 because I was growing my first stray facial hairs

I'm glad you had someone to look out for you though, I don't think I'd have been able to hold my own if someone had decided to bully me. I hung out with the theatre kids so it was mostly safe.
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IT IS TIME TO GET THICC
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>>7589546
I wish I could end her life
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bored
>>
>>7589554
too late for that
food is already in the bin
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>>7589558
WILL!
>>
>>7589560
poke isl
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>>7589558
more butt
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>>7589568
hi emi
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>>7589558
IT IS TIME TO GET FUNKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVQnLmKFeLY
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I found my new waifu
dr gross is a qt
>>7589519
nice
>>7589539
>make food
>get sad
>eat all of the food
>repeat previous three steps too many times
>>7589483
>see dad for first time in a few months over winter break
>immediately cracks a few tranny jokes
that felt weird desu
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>>7589560
I really hope Mike Pence gets caught Monica Lewinskying an underage boy.
>>
how do i date when im a early transition tranny?
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>>7589566
You shouldn't do that anon.
>>
>>7589574
tfw funky hospitals aren't covered by most insurances
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>>7589576
that will never happen.
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>>7589581
never say never
>>
>>7589540

tyyyyyyyyyyyy *^_^*

>>7589546

u can have it too

>>7589553

buddddddddddddiiiiiiii
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>>7589582
I'm saying never.
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>>7589576
you shouldn't wish for mean things to happen to other people
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>>7589575
>eat all of the food
>eat all of the food
>eat all of the food

when i'm sad i lose my ability to control my appetite. or really to feel satisfied :/
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>>7589584
don't
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>>7589550
Aww babe, why neck rope? :P

>>7589551
>.< yay buddi

>>7589557
Danggggg. Jelly, I wish mine would have been that severe. I ended up growing a thick as fuck beard and I'm still working on getting rid of it.

>I hung out with the theatre kids so it was mostly safe.
oooo me too. xD
>>
>>7589585
But what if they're mean people
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>>7589572
waddap ^^
>>
escape
>>
>get first message on okc
>it's a pre hrt trans girl
i feel like I'm being memed
>>7589586
>when i'm sad i lose my ability to control my appetite. or really to feel satisfied :/
yeah it's terrible, iktf. nothing really helps it
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>>7589595
me on the bottom
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>>7589595
I WANT A PUPPY
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>>7589546
>>7589559
>sex worker on the wrong side of twenty does drugs and sleeps with another man

I think getting to worked up about this either way is a little much
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>>7589588
My voice cant pass and never will. T took that from me and I can't afford to fix it for at least 8 years. Time to stop going here again I guess, I'm just not good enough.
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>>7589606
who left sqd there
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>>7589575
I stopped watching Adventure Time somewhere in season 5, I think.
Has it gotten any better since then?
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>>7589608
babe that just isn't true. Add me on skype and I can maybe help you gain some progress on your voice. <3

Dreamsura is my skype.
>>
https://youtu.be/_15TfO8kWcg
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>>7589519
Memento mori.
>>
>>7589577
bisexual people
>>
>>7589608
I don't know it only cost me a couple grand to get someone to permenantly disfigure my hot guy voice and make me sound like a faggot
>>
>>7589592
then that makes you just as bad as them

you homophobic faggot
>>
>>7589612
it's okay I guess. Idk I'm a poor judge of quality
Season 7 felt better than what seasons 4-6 were aside from 1 or 2 episodes
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>>7589577
Hi I'm a boy, I'm looking to date

And then after awhile say you're trans and if you're awesome no one caree
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>>7589588
I mean, mix bag, you wound up with something that I definitely can be jelly of
https://clyp.it/30dftlay

Also, what is it about repressing queerfolk and theatre idgi

>>7589580
RIP 1990s
>>
>>7589620
good way to get murdered
>>
>>7589618
>homophobic
wut
>>
>>7589577
This >>7589620 might work, but it could also go badly and I don't recommend it.
This >>7589616 would be a better idea.
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>>7589624
No,they murder you if you say you're a girl , a gay boy or a straight girl will likely stay with you if you chose wisely

My gay friends date transgirls all the time
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>>7589605
I mean more in general
It's not a sudden thing
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>>7589587
too late
>>7589593
not muhc
wbu
>>
so if every mirror reflects light differently, and cameras distort you face..what the hell do i really look like?
>>
>>7589629
That's honestly fucking disgusting
>>
>>7589633
I've never even touched someone that fat. I wonder what it feels like
>>
>tfw you tell your five year old brother to fuck off
>>
>>7589627
Yah but this
>>7589616

This gets you someone way too... personally involved in their sexuality?
Like I'd rather they just like me
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>>7589638
id rather die than touch something like that
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>>7589622
>I mean, mix bag, you wound up with something that I definitely can be jelly of
Lul, bitch please, your voice sounds awesome! In that recording of mine I went a bit higher than I casually speak so I think some of my movement and melody was off.

lol once in pass gen you ripped me apart.
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>>7589640
get a grip
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>tfw you remember that one time you denied a girl when she asked to fuck you in the butt
What was I thinking.
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>>7589617
I wont have a couple grand until I'm graduated and paid off my student loan. And I haven't even started my studies, they start next month.

>>7589613
Thanks for the offer but I'm pretty hopeless. I've tried some 30+ different tutorials, like I said using voice fulltime for over 9 months, did the meme voice box muscle training tricks and consulted a bunch of people who got a functioning voice here and I still can't reach the range nor resonance that I'd need. Nothing to lose either so thanks I suppose.
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>>7589645
I bet she's constantly damp with clammy sweat.
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>>7589649
eh, he's got much worse to deal with in the future
>>
>>7589615

wat
>>
>>7589635
Oh please literally everyone I know just Fucks what they like and ignores the tumblr

I'm with a straight girl
My gay friends fuck femboy looking trans girls
My girlfriends lesbian room mate is dating a non binary afab with top surgery

Like honestly why fuck with a good thing and demand that they say "they're straight" while sucking your cock
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poof
poof
big ball of hair
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>>7589648
Ehhh, sometimes I do wish it were a bit higher without feeling unnatural but idk, I'm a big girl, a deeper voice works.

Also, are you sure that was me?
I don't remember ever posting in passgen, I basically only post in mtfg
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>tfw LGBT group at college is having a meeting this week
should I go? I legit don't even know what they do. If I run into somebody I know I'd feel inredibly awkward outing myself
this isn't a support group or anything from what I can tell
>>7589640
was he being a little bitch
>>7589650
>tfw almost got a hookup with a guy freshman year
>tfw turned him down instead
fuuuuug
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>>7589657
>She doesn't understand Latin
Do you know what plebeian means?
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>>7589654
fat people are just.... ew
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>>7589661
omigod fix your blinds, disgusting
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>>7589665
Be warned LGBT groups are pretty SJW
>>7589661
Who do you live with now?
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>>7589665
She had a big one too.
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>>7589666
there's some irony here in that latin is the plebbiest dead language there is

if you want anybody to take you seriously, you have to speak something like akkadian, sanskrit or ancient greek
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tfw raised to be 250 lbs by a morbidly obese family
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>>7589665
it's probably a place where you can make friends and be yourself, i say go
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I'm sad
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>>7589664
>Also, are you sure that was me?
Not sure, must have been someone posting your pics. They ripped everyone though lmao.

>Ehhh, sometimes I do wish it were a bit higher without feeling unnatural but idk, I'm a big girl, a deeper voice works.

I think your voice sounds fine, desu.

>>7589654
Hi soap, I used to anon-compliment you a lot
before trip.

>>7589651
Hopeless is a strong word... Glad you added me. Definitely nothing to lose.
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>>7589675
thicc juni
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>>7589675
>tfw peaked at 200lbs at 5'7"
>tfw still 180lbs
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>>7589679
I thought you would like the contortionist
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>>7589665
>was he being a little bitch
not really
he was just being a burden
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>>7589650
The closest I came was high school year

She put me up on a massage table, put on a latex glove, pulled down my panties, lubed her hand up, spread my legs

And then after I was like YES ITS HAPPENING, she gave me a hand job which I instantly got soft to.


>tfw still an anal virgin
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>>7589629
I've heard of self-proclaimed lesbians dating trans guys, but not the so for gay guys and trans girls.
Either way, it seems really weird to me that the trans people involved in those relationships would want to stay involved.

>>7589660
because
>person is a sexuality that's only attracted to men
>person is attracted to you
>person sees you as a woman
You can pick at most two, and the last two are really important to me.
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>>7589634
a man
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>>7589674
I'm trying to make fun of Edie not tip my fedora lol.
>>7589675
Idk why people deny obesity is genetic when pretty much all fat parents have fat kids. And before anyone says anything yes the trend has been observed even when the kids are adopted by a thin family.
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>>7589679
I'll be on in a bit I gotta install skype on my pc
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>>7589684
>tfw the same weight but 6'2
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>>7589685
I live about an hour away from them and have played quite a few shows with them. I'm pretty tight with all the guys in that band.

Their old vocalist from the first 2 albums (Jon Carpenter) is gonna do vocals on my prog bands next release. :)

Felt it was appropriate cause I'm jamming this hard right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx6q9PFguVQ
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>>7589692
>trying to justify your shitty unhealthy lifestyle
nice try fatty, theres been plenty more studies disproving a genetic link as there has been proving one
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>>7589679
Yeah that would make sense, I remember someone was shitting up passgen and namefagging as me with my pics on at least one occasion because it got crossthread linked here.

Sorry about that ;-;
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>>7589672
I feel like it'd be a way to meet people
>LGBT groups are pretty SJW
yeah I figure, I'm sure I could find somebody there who isn't too out there
>>7589673
damn, you missed out then
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>>7589681
I'm killing the boy fat once and for all
>>7589684
My goal is 170 by summer
>>7589692
nurture vs nature
nurture is what fucked me up
my ex bff has a thyroid problem making him eternally fat.
>>7589696
you are who I dreamed of being for most of my life
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>>7589672
im with my father for one week and my mother one week, rinse and repeat
hopefully im into a sharehouse within the next month soon
>>>7589661 (You)
IM SORRY ;-;
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>>7589692
my parents are both skinny though, i was just a fat, greedy shit who did whatever he wanted and only ever ate ready meals and chocolate bars
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>>7589706
woops i FUCKED UP THAT QUOTE
>>7589669
>>
zhea do you sing

also i have to go to sleep goodnight friends
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>>7589695
you have no idea how bitter it makes me thinking that i would be an average weight if i were 6'2"

i'm going to give you some seriously fucking mean (you)s in the future for this
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>>7589694
No worries, love.

>>7589701
<3, all good babe. You're off the hook this time!!

>>7589704
>>7589704
>you are who I dreamed of being for most of my life
Is this a good thing or a bad thing. What is your dream now, love?
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>>7589687
One day.
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>>7589666

wat
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>>7589689
Okay I mean I empathize with you, but obviously there are a lot of people who see it the other way, id prefer a gay dude to a """"""""""""""straight"""""""""""" guy any day, and like I'd rather be with straight girls who you can break then limit myself to one small group of pansexuals that I might. It have anything in common with
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>family is going overseas
>have to help my aunt with some stuff
>"where do you see yourself this year?"
>awkwardly change the subject
i could hardly say 'in a ditch'
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>>7589715
>zhea do you sing
Yes I sing, but I'm afraid to sing now that I have been transitioning cause I don't like how my body and voice don't match when I do it.

I've started digitally augmenting my voice and sampling it in new works.

good night <3
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Another one of my goldfish died and i realised that i'm incompetent of taking care of anything and should give up trying.
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>>7589719
Literally going to die a virgin
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>>7589706
Does he still beat you?
>>7589709
How fat are you? I've genuinely never seen a fat kid with thin parents.
>>7589721
Oy vey
"Memento mori" means "rememer you will die" I was trying to rain on your day basically by reminding you that the joy will end soon and give way to eternal doom.
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>>7589725
goldfish are just feeble beings
buy yourself a robust ferret
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>>7589709
>i was just a fat, greedy shit who did whatever he wanted and only ever ate ready meals and chocolate bars
me irl desu
>>7589725
;~;
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Oh hey I love horror movies
I love m knight when he's good
My girlfriend loves horror movies
There are like 2 horror movies a year that are good

...oh
He dresses like a woman and kills people....

Ok guess not
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>>7589718
<3 yay!

>>7589722
>tfw no gay dude sexytime
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>>7589728
>How fat are you? I've genuinely never seen a fat kid with thin parents.
180lbs at 5'7", but used to be around 200lbs (probably a bit over actually, maybe more like 210lbs)

parents and siblings are all normal weight (except for my dad, who's skinny)
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>>7589735
You went too far

Vaginas give gay men ptsd
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>>7589730
Ferrets are disgusting and mean to me

>>7589732
;-;
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i am still so ridiculously high and i had so much fun seeing dat guy again i forgot how much i really liked him and wow dis is the best night ever ^__^
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As I've finished the bulk of puberty, what is the hurry with transitioning?

At my age, you aren't sandbagging to stop the flood, you are trying to pump out the water and mop up.
There isn't gonna be another flood. It's over.
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>>7589741
what about this uplifting ferret
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>>7589746
It gets worse
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>>7589728
no he does not beat me anymore
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>>7589746
>As I've finished the bulk of puberty, what is the hurry with transitioning?
Losing out on time
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>>7589722
I guess it's just important for me to know that my partner sees me as a woman.
Your line of thinking still seems rather weird to me, but you do you.
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>>7589743
So, I asked you the other night if you'd consider something with him. Thoughts on that now after spending the evening with him?

I connected with my man tonight and I feel rlly good about that. Hoping to spend a week or two with him soon.
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>>7589732
Trying to lose weight when you're in a fat family is the worst because they will do everything to sabotage it or at least not help. I actually had to sperg out once to get my mum to stop cooking me bullshit
>Be 16
>Tell mum I'm on a diet
>She goes and serves me wings for dinner
>Get mad and throw the wings everywhere
Yeah I know pepe-tier but I told her so many times to cook me something healthy and she just didn't give a shit. And then came the "you're getting too thin" when I was still 190 lbs o_o
>>7589746
Have you seen the difference between 20 and 30 year old men?
>>7589754
Is he letting you trans?
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remember being thicc is good but not fat
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>>7589740
>have to choose between being dysphoric but having at least something to set you apart from potential partners, or being a eunuch with a pseudovagina that nobody wants to bone
Owell lol

>>7589746
There's the whole social aspect that takes ages to figure out so the sooner you start the better
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>at the park with bf
>a baby playing in the snow with their parents starts crying
>dad gets angry
>says "this is why you shouldn't have children" to us for some reason
>y-you too ;_;
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>>7589756
Same, I don't think most straight guys with early transitioners with penises really do tho tbqh
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>>7589762
it is
that's why i wouldn't want to have children
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>>7589747
It is lying to me so ehh
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>>7589761
>nobody
>nobody
>nobody
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>>7589746
Even after puberty, your body is gonna keep masculinizing, unless you start hrt and/or remove your balls.
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>>7589760
Did I look thicc in my video
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>tfw you live in California
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>>7589762
>"Someday, when you're a mom.."
Like a gut punch, every time

>>7589778
U herd me
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>>7589783
I would rape the Pope to live in California, the weather here is so shit and there's zero modern culture outside of London.
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>>7589783
>tfw you live in the UK
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>>7589783
this
>>7589782
not necessarily but you do look quite nice
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>>7589757

yes c: idk i really miss him already so idk. we talked about all kinds of things and we like each other tons so it's all good idk fampai
and dat sounds really nice :3 what did ya'll do?
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Good morning <3
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>reminded yet again of my stupidity
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>>7589760
THAT'S A VERY THIN LINE TO WALK ISLA
I CAN'T HANDLE THE PRESSURE
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>>7589798
Oh :(
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>>7589803
gold, frankincense and myrthe
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>>7589783
>tfw you live in New Hampshire
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>>7589770
I know I'm a monstrosity of a hon that will never be a real girl, but I want a partner who'll at least humor me and pretend, but if my partner calls themself a straight girl or a gay guy then it makes it really hard to suspend my disbelief.
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>>7589814
NH has no state tax tho

t. mass resident
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>>7589808
its not super thin
>>7589809
dw you can get there some day if you really wanna !!
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>>7589819
And really good gun laws and the mountains are cool but I want to move to New York
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>>7589794
I like the UK, it's just the weather and lack of any civilization north of Stoke-on-Trent that bums me out.
>>7589814
Where?
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>>7589814
I'm pretty jelly, I always wanted to move to somewhere like New Hampshire (or maybe Vermont). Looks really comfy and the salaries are quite high.
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>>7589787
>"Someday, when you're a mom..."
Fuck you, elanna, I was trying to forget about that. And every time you google anything along the lines of "infertility makes me depressed" it's always a bunch of cis women who aren't actually completely infertile, and their advice about it is to just "keep trying and work with a doctor on fertility treatments." There's nothing anywhere for those of us who feel worthless and disgusting because we're completely sterilized. I hate my life and want to die. I just want to be a mother. My mom is a first grade teacher and she always gets these unwanted kids and drug babies and children of teenage mothers and it just pisses me off, like, this fucking degenerate can have a kid they don't even want and they usually get away with mistreating them, but I'm over here and actually want to be a mother and do my best at raising my child, but I'm completely unable to give birth?
>inb4 adopt
I want a biological child, not some crackwhore's fucked up kid or some African baby who's gonna grow up to have attachment issues from being a baby in a shithole orphanage.
>inb4 should have sperm banked
I'm not supposed to be a father. It wasn't supposed to be like this.

fucking murder me
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>>7589824
I've really wanted for years now...I've been trying so hard :/
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>>7589826
Here

>>7589829
I like it but i want to try something different, my parents live in the same town they where born in and I don't want that
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>>7589829
>>7589836

I've literally never heard of this state.
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>>7589792
Don't you have knives to be binning?
>>7589794
I feel your pain.
>>7589798
The worst part is that it's looking like I won't be able to escape to a free state anytime soon.
>>7589814
New Hampshire is better than California is every respect. Even if your weather is bad, at least your government respects its citizens and doesn't coddle gangbangers and general lowlifes at the expense of honest people.
>>
Night
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>>7589843
Sleep well!
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>>7589834
I do believe you can do it beep ^_^
>>7589842
this place sucks.
At least I live in a nice conservative area.
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>>7589841
It's pretty cool

>>7589842
Its not that bad
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>>7589800
Awww, that's so sweet. :) I'm glad you had an awesome time.

> what did ya'll do?
well, he's 3 hours away from me right now but we had a really awesome talk about our plans together. It was really comforting and nice. Then we played some vidya together. Then we got really lewd and it was amazing. Seriously mouthwatering in anticipation for the next time we get together.

He opened up about more of his kinks and stuff. They are soooo perfect for me. Ugh.
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>>7589826
>I like the UK, it's just the weather and lack of any civilization north of Stoke-on-Trent that bums me out.
it's okay, it just feels depressing all the time and all the beaches have hard stones that hurt to walk on - when it's cold, it's too cold (even though it's not that cold) and when it's hot, it's too hot (even though it's not that hot)

i wish i were in america instead
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>>7589843
nini
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>>7589830
Anger isn't going to change anything. Accept it and move on. That doesn't mean you can't also get sad about it sometimes but you can't maintain your sanity if you get wound up by things like other people's kids.

Like hell, it's not like gay dudes can have babies either, queer people generally can't.
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>>7589772
a baby would be worth the crying though, but I'll just cry instead

>>7589787
yup, I get that all the time along with my bf's parents warning us not to have a kid so early
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>>7589758
he is letting me trans
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>>7589853

oh ye it was the best ^__^
and that sounds exciting!! it's nice to have things to look forward to desu
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i totally just ate an entire large pizza by myself h e l p lmao
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>>7589842
>>7589842
Ahahaha very funny
>>7589854
It's funny how all the Brits i've met on 4chan prefer America. I assume that's because of the shared right-wing views. I myself like America because the weather and scenery is nice but the government sucks so I prefer Britain for that reason.
>>7589861
Social workers made him agree huh?
Good for you.
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>>7589861

Good news!
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what was the last book you read, mtfg?
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>>7589872
The Great Gatsby
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>>7589872
S-started reading this today
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>>7589846
I live in the Sierra Nevada foothills and go to college in the Bay Area. So basically, I alternate between a shitty liberal area and the Appalachia of the West. I just want the government to leave me the fuck alone and let me protect myself and my property from tweaker scum and coyotes without having to worry about some Demoshit judge ruling that some trailer trash wigger dindu nuffin wrong and was a good boy who didn't ever smoke meth and about how I was just killing defenseless animals on my property and in violation of xyz county ordinances. Fuck the state legislature, fuck the judicial system, and fuck Jerry Brown.
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>>7589872
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>>7589872
i've been braindead and illiterate since
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>>7589870
>It's funny how all the Brits i've met on 4chan prefer America. I assume that's because of the shared right-wing views. I myself like America because the weather and scenery is nice but the government sucks so I prefer Britain for that reason.
there's a lot to like: beautiful nature, higher salaries on average, lower cost of living, lots of space, could probably own a gun

i get the impression that brits on 4chan are over-represented when it comes to NEETs and poorfags, so there's probably a lot of escapist idealisation too
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>>7589880
gayyyyyyyyyy

>>7589872
Some aesthetic theory
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why is this song so good when ur high tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS9f6_i6v3Q
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>>7589872

ACoK, for like the three millionth time. I don't like to loose my reading speed so when I have nothing else new to read I just reread ASOIAF
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>>7589897
nice, I love aesthetics.
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>>7589856
>Anger isn't going to change anything. Accept it and move on.
just bee urself
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>>7589903
which aesthetic do you like the best?
>>
>>7589872
Some short stories by H. P. Lovecraft, if that counts (if not, then no idea)
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>>7589898

This one too...

https://youtu.be/0E5NdEZiXyQ
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>>7589896
>Higher salaries
Longer working hours and that only applies to professionals. Menial service workers get peanuts
>Lower cost of living
So long as you don't have any medical problems
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>tfw finished reading Uzumaki for the first time
2spooky4me
>>7589783
>tfw Georgia
>>7589856
this
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>>7589897
It's not gay if I put it down and stopped reading after they started making out and it gave me feels

>>7589904
I mean, yeah, sometimes that meme is the only thing you can say
>>
>>7589909

this is niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>7589906
vaporwave

non-meme answer: i've been reading about japanese aesthetics recently and the concept of Yūgen is pretty interesting to me.
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>>7589889
;_; poor beepbeep being corrupted by you all
She's too pretty to be pimped out, she should have a loving bf to keep her safe, fed & sheltered.
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>>7589856
It's not like gay dudes have a hormone-driven instinctual drive to be mothers, though, and dykes can be mothers through artificial insemination. It makes me so mad that white trash tweakers can have babies they don't want that are pretty much guaranteed to grow up to be fuckups as a result of growing up with a dad in prison and an abusive methwhore for a mother. Why can they reproduce, but I can't? I'd love my child and put my heart and soul into raising them right and making sure they're provided for, but life lets the gift of pregnancy go to some wigger bitch who doesn't even want it? It's not fair, and I can't accept it. I got invited to a baby shower last week. A fucking baby shower, and I couldn't weasel out of going to it, so I ended up having to go and sit there and pretend to smile and give a gift and everything. I cried the whole drive home. I'm not going to get over this. I can't.
>>
don't like hospitals
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can soemone post the latest tier list
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>>7589916
Do you still ever play Overwatch, Edie?
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im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross im gross
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>>7589916

Most welcome ;)

https://youtu.be/mkacBdekneI

Here is a set you may like, it's easy listening but it helps me so house work whilst prancing around like a duffer :3
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>>7589920
Are you seriously going to spend the rest of your life crying over something you were never going to have. Cis women who have hysterectomies or true sterility don't throw tantrums like this, they deal with their issues like functional adults.
See a therapist if you must.
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>>7589881
Jerry brown is human scum
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how much soy milk should i consume per day to have any effect?
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>>7589911
meh, seems like a better deal on average

that being said, i'm glad i get to be poor here and not over there
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>>7589920
Shoot up a school.
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>>7589945
I think you'd have to drink enough to have serious negative health effects
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>>7589948
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>>7589945
its useless
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>>7589945
Just get on hormones
Don't eat too many soy products when you're there though since they can disrupt the absorption of e you get from pills.
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>>7589939
I am seeing a therapist, but she isn't helping. I don't even know why I pay her considering that I've gotten nothing out of it even after half a year of weekly appointments. I didn't get any of the necessary shit I needed to be a functional adulthood. I had shitty neglectful parents, I was molested by my neighbor, my first partner raped me, and on top of it all I'm a broke tranny. I didn't get anything else that everybody else in life gets. I'm so fucking tired of everything, and having to keep promising people who care about me that I won't kill myself. I want to die so badly. No matter how well I transition and no matter how good surgeries and treatments get, I'll still have male memories in my head. No matter what I can't change my shitty childhood and adolescence. Therapy doesn't do fuck all. I can never live my dream of being a mother, and people who care about me keep guilting me into not offing myself. I just want to die but nobody will let me and I can't go through with it because I don't want to hurt them. I hate my life. I wish somebody would murder me.
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>tfw you tell your mother that it was irresponsible to give birth to you
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>>7589929

ye i'm playing it rn actually lol!

>>7589937

i'm listening to dis nowwww
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>>7589961
oh she knows.
>>
>>7589966
>ye i'm playing it rn actually lol!
wtf we gotta play together lol.

you still play genji? Do you ever rank/if so what rank?
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>>7589961
>tfw your mother gave birth to despite abortion being an option and knowing from the ultrasound that you would be defective as shit
I hate my mom for giving birth to me.
>>
How 2 tell a therapist ur in a hurry to get on hrt?

is that even possible
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>>7589971
threaten suicide :^)

(DONT do this)
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>>7589959
Build a legacy that isn't genetic. Make something of yourself in spite of the shit hand you got dealt. Make new memories and drive those male memories to the bottom of your psyche

I don't like being a fucking eunuch either, but there's other ways to have a fulfilling existence than through giving birth. The experience itself is virtually identical if you raise someone else's child, and your legacy, even if not genetic, is a child who reflects the years of hard work you put into raising them. Do you seriously think you'd be worse off with loving adopting parents than neglectful biological ones?
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>>7589971
"i am in a hurry to get cross-sex hormone therapy"

>>7589970
i'm sorry... your mom was indoctrinated by a sick culture, it's not her fault entirely. let's work to fix the culture instead of holding on to pain
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>>7589979
Or she could shoot up a school.
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>>7589961
>tfw your mother tells you that it was irresponsible of her to give birth to you
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>>7589959
>No matter how well I transition and no matter how good surgeries and treatments get, I'll still have male memories in my head.
iktf.
If I could reach a point where I'm perfectly passable and then wipe most of my memories from before that point then I probably would, but the fact that I would even want such a thing is sad to me.
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>>7589969

i play tracer and sombra the mostttt but i'm actualy playing genji rn lol!!! i'm only diamond rank bb
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>>7589980
and they're not "in a hurry" to throw their career away
this isn't a light decision
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>>7589961

>that one time my mum got drunk, started crying and told me how happy she was she didn't get an abortion

Thanks... I think...
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>>7589985
there are some industries where transitioning doesn't severely negatively impact your career
>>
If Beepbeep gets killed I am not responsible.
>>
>>7589966

I hope you enjoy it <3
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>>7589985
clearly communicating with your therapist is a good idea
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>>7589994
I meant the therapist/endo
they don't want to be sued for malpractice when you go back to them 5 year later saying they shouldn't have let you authorise it without proper evaluation

say what you want about gatekeepers, but understand that the ultimate goal is harm reduction, not happiness maximisation
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>>7589984
>i'm only diamond rank bb
Damn bitch. That's a lot higher than me. I'm like Gold or something right now. I honestly hadn't played in like a year till just recently. I was rank 80 on the first season though.

I have like ~15 ranked games this season tho. How can I add you on Battlenet? We play sometime in the future if you are free.
>>
>>7589971
maybe express that your dysphoria is extremeley severe? Idk how you'd do this without mentioning suicidal thoughts which might not be the best idea
>>7589995
>training someone to prostitute themselves
not a good idea desu
>>7589994
I think she meant the therapist throwing their career away without properly diagnosing her with GID before allowing her to start hrt.
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>>7589979
The male memories will still be there, just like the bad thoughts about killing myself are always at the back of my mind. The problem can never go away.
>>7589983
I've been so desperate that I actually looked into brainwashing techniques and begged my partner to try them on me. She refused and I ended up going to therapy. Therapy doesn't work. It's a lie to steal your money.
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>>7589995
You will be, don't push her down this path.
She can do better and you know that.
>>
>>7589999
>>7590001
oh I totally misinterpreted that post lol my b
>>
i really really really wanna be a girl
i want others to see me as a girl
i want to see myself as a girl
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>>7590008
>want
agp
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>>7590001
I think I'll go with this because it's true.

>>7589998
thank
>>
>function reasonably well as a human being
>slight trigger stops that in it's tracks
>practically throw in the towel
what is the point trying if i am so fucking touchy?
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dio was so hot in part 1
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>>7590008
If you're lucky you might get 1 of 3
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>tfw reflections or shadows
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I don't want to go to a doctors appointment that I've booked.
I don't really know how to cancel it and I don't want to ring them up.

Would there be much repercussion if I just didn't show?
>>
man man man man man man man man man man man man man man
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>>7590000

das really good! and um idk i play OW a lot so it just is what it is lol. my bnet is lily#12487
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>>7590005
Of course it doesn't go away, this is real life not some sci fi fantasy
You moderate your expectations and make peace with it. Then you move on with your life.
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>>7590015
it's getting 2/3 that's difficult, isn't it? either you pass and still have crippling insecurities because you're a woman and society is designed to make you insecure, or you don't pass and you're lonely af

>>7590018
probably a bill. just call them, it won't be that bad.
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>>7590022
Hi Elanna!
>>
ANON btw that sweet talk album is amazing
>>
What is the point of transition if I never see myself as a woman?
I've been taught to not care about what other people think, and I don't.
The only problem is that I judge myself to a much higher standard than everyone else.
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>>7590024
>just call them, it won't be that bad.
I'll probably just leave it and see.
That's my philosophy with everything.
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I want to kill myself. What reasons do I have not to?
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>>7589422
>Rubberband around the balls
it may be too late to do that around my balls
but not my neck
i might give that a try one day
>>
>>7590022
Lanner i missed you but i'm sorry you came back, this place needs you but doesnt deserve you ;_;
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>>7590034
because you have life
oh and also
dont attention whore.
>>
>>7590034
There are no real reasons to not, unfortunately.
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>>7590036
I wouldn't wish elanna on anyone, desu.
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chara is so cute when she's playing rpgs
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>>7590034
Tends to leave a bit of a mess

>>7590036
I belong here
Really I'm just super bored rn tho because I'm like 1500km away from home and cant cuddle my partner ;~;

>>7590026
Sup frangi

>>7590041
me too thanks
>>
so much sadposting right now ;-;

life is sometimes sad. It's up to you to seek meaning in your life and find happiness. There are no objective reasons to live, not to die, or to do anything else. You have to find those reasons.
>>
>tfw getting too weak to get out of bed

w-wew
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>>7590044
The hard part isn't finding reasons to live.
It's motivating yourself to find them.
>>
>>7590043
the usual, though I do have a new name now :D
Asked my mom what she had in mind and I think it fits me quite well

how r u?
>>
>>7590044
this is healthy for a tranny
usually they try their hardest to block out harsh realities
>>
>>7590043
:/
When are you leaving edmonton

>>7590045
Iktf i slept so deep tonight i feel like a brick
>>
sometimes i get really into a daydream and then get depressed when i snap back to reality
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>>7590045
Get your snap card pls don't starve
>>
>trying to shitpost in peace on /sug/
>someone posts some tumblr post from a former boarder about trans resources for a middle schooler
>"trannies are mentally ill freaks"/"hormones and surgery aren't real solutions" ensues
i'm just trying to shitpost about cartoons in peace, man
>>7590045
:/
I hope you can get your SNAP benefits soon
>>7590051
>dream about being full time
>tfw wake up
soon i'll be there
>>
>tfw u feel ur adams apple and the dysphoria hits u
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>>7590044
I don't know like I'm okay but every once ina while I have to deal with a bureaucracy with the chance of it being life changing

And I remember the district attorney telling me that I could be confused if I wanted it or not because I was confused about my gender

And I realize the world hates me
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>>7590050
Wednesday
I just sort of ended up exhausted and coming here because I've been nonstop socializing basically all week ;~;

>>7590047
Congrats!
Idk, slightly tipsy, I've actually been in a surprisingly good mood today because for once I was able to see a girl in the mirror and she was maybe even a little cute.
>>
>>7590056
>And I realize the world hates me

the world is indifferent to you.
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>>7590059
I very much wish that sweetheart, but people in power when you come across them can sometimes use their bigotry and power to target you, it's not the 99.999999% of the world that matters

It's just the people who can end your dreams
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>>7590054
Iktf.

Tfw all you wanna do is press your forehead against your lovers head but then you remember you have a ridge of disgusting bone that you don't want him to feel. :((((((((
>>
it's a lonely life
when you're all alone
and your days just turn to nights
you watch tv
live in fantacy
then you turn out all the lights
and you lie in bed
and in your head you're a thousand miles away
and you try to solve the mistakes you made in a far off yesterday

send all the ghosts away
i'm tired of knots inside me
we write the old sad stories
and send all the ghosts away

sometimes you let the telephone just ring until it stops
and you pretend you're out when someone comes and knocks and knocks and knocks
cause your sick and tired of being polite and pretending that you care
when the one you love is far away
life just don't seem fair

send all the ghosts away
i'm tired of knots inside me
we write the old sad stories
and send all the ghosts away

and the one you love is far away
life just don't seem fair

send all the ghosts away
i'm tired of knots inside me
we write the old sad stories
and send all the ghosts away

etc etc
>>
this place is becoming edgy as fuck
>>
>>7590063
;-;
REEEEEEEE
BAD FEELS

hugg Zhe
>>
Am I not trutrans if I've never attempted to castrate myself?

I guess my respect for my parents outweighed my bodily dysphoria
>>
>>7590069
I used to consider taking scissors to my genitals.

>>7590068
Big hug ferengi pan <3
>>
>>7590069
idk if I'm tru-trans, but I haven't attempted that either, fwiw.
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>>7590066
>>
>>7590066
>becoming
everyone who posts or has posted in this thread has been this edgy before
>>
>>7590069
trutrans is a meme
normal, healthy people don't want to change their gender
>>
>>7590069
>Am I not trutrans if
a lot of the "if you didn't do [X] then you're not trutrans" is a meme
I never tried to castrate myself. Did I think about it before? yeah
>>
i don't want to be trans
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>>7590079
>normal, healthy people don't want to change their gender
>>
am i the only one who literally thought they were a cis girl until middle school when i found out that girls didn't have penises
>>
>>7590077
no i mean
in general
not specifically this thread
>>7590075
lol
>>
>>7590088
i know
i was just saying that this thread has always been fucking edgy
at least as long as i've been here
>>
>>7590086
i feel like i was dumb in the wrong ways
like i never tucked because i didn't know testicles could go up there
>>
>>7590086
Does it count if I only just assumed everyone had a penis until sex ed taught me otherwise?
>>
>>7590091
its slowly getting edgier and edgier
>>7590086
that was me up until kindergarten when my teacher said i wasnt a girl cuz my dick
>>
>>7589134
everything i wore was several sizes too big bcuz i wanted to hide inside giant clothes

usually just jeans and metal band tshirts
>>
>>7590086
You have no siblings?
>>
It's worse to be (or have been) a functional dysphoric than a dysfunctional one.
Things don't change if you tolerate them.
>>
>>7590086
Tfw mom catches me wearing girls clothes super young and scolds the shit out of me. "You are supposed to be a boy, you have boy parts."

Hello repression.
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did anyone here have super awkward unenjoyable one-sided relationships pre-transition
>>
>>7590094
>its slowly getting edgier and edgier
i don't think it really has
just the people have changed
>>
>>7590092
>>7590094

rip

>>7590093

i think it counts desu

>>7590099

i'm an only child ye

>>7590101

my mom let me wear girls clothes and she used to dress me up really stylish when i wore boy clothes and all my friends were girls and i had a girl cubby in school etc ;_;
until middle school when they said i couldn't be with the girls anymore
>>
>tfw you wasted a quarter of your life
and the way thing are going, it'll end up being a third.
>>
>>7590104
yeah as in
the people coming here is edgy
>>7590102
i had an abusive gf but i thought that was normal after my boyfriend dipped out on me.
>>7590105
it was silly
>>
>>7590086
I knew the difference between men and women by like 4-5, my mom and dad showered with me to save time as the tub was seperate and a pain for them to use

I didn't get that it mattered until maybe 2nd grade when they gender policed me hard, and I didn't get the body stuff until 4th grade, at which point I compelety shut down and lost all self image of who I was
>>
>>7590102
i've never really been in a relationship
i feel like i'm too emotionally detatched to ever develop that sort of thing, which is depressing because i'm lonely
>>
Who else prayed to God to make them a cis girl
I remember doing that every night for a couple of years
>>
>>7590110
i don't remember it like that though
it feels like the people who are progressing with their transition are getting themselves less edgy, so everyone else feels edgy
>>
>>7590115
well edgier as in
the sad postin
suicide posting
edgep osting
that type of stuff
not cartman pol stuff
>>
>>7590114
Right here
>>
>>7590114
EVERY FUCKING NIGHT IF THERE'S A GOD PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAN I BE A GIRL
>>
>>7590110

"u have dick u no girl" would crush me as a child desu ;-;

>>7590114

i just prayed for god to make me pretty. and a sailor scout. and a witch tbqh lmao
>>
>>7590122
that was basically it
i used a fork on my dick later in rage.
>>
>>7590105
well I knew the difference between girls and boys because I used to take baths with my sister (we were poor)

and I never told my mum how I felt because I was afraid of her
>>
>>7590101
Mom caught me because it was my dance stuff
>took all my stuff without asking
>start wearing her stuff instead
>they keep taking my stuff as people/gfs or I buy it without talking about it all the way to high school
>run upstairs, kick in the door in during a Coke fueled rage,beat the shit out of me for a day and destroy my room and all the furniture in it after finding me dressed in sophomore year, keep me naked in between beatings


My family was weird
>>
>>7590093
I thought everyone had a penis until like 3rd grade, when some boy made a penis joke and a girl didn't get it at first, but then said "Oh, it's the boy thing!"

>>7590105
>my mom let me wear girls clothes and she used to dress me up really stylish when i wore boy clothes
Aw, that sounds nice.
My parents were never like "Oh, you're a boy so you HAVE to do boy things", but they always put me in boy clothes and kept my hair short, and I never fought against it because I knew that a boy wanting to do girly things would be shunned and seen as weird by most people.
It also didn't help that I have no sisters and my mom isn't the least bit girly.
>>
>>7590129
im sorry desu, abusive families suck

my dad rarely beat me but he used to kick down doors, threaten violence, and psychologically abuse us ('you're the reason everything is terrible', 'i wish youd never been born' etc etc) pretty frequently

I wonder how many trannies have fucked up childhoods
>>
>>7590114
I went to a secular private school and was raised by atheists

I had no concept of god until like 7 or 8, I mostly just day dreamed about it magically happening
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>tfw sad
>>
>>7590134
Yah... I don't want to trigger anyone's bad memories I'm just sick and sad, I'm sorry you had to deal with it as well
>>
>tfw non-abusive family
>tfw liberal city
>tfw reasonably supportive friends
i have no excuse
>>
>>7590141
agp :^)
>>
i swear im the only person who has really shitty experiences in liberal areas and really good experiences in conservative areas
is it because im basically stealth?
>>
I dont really remember having extremem experiences like that. I just felt sad and left out when i couldnt play with the girls anymore and remember asking a friend if he wanted to be a girl and being surprised when he said no.
>>
>tfw you will never pass
>>
anyone else
find mens deoderant
then just
smell it
an dkeep smelling it
and get enchanted by the scent
and just drool over it
>>
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Do trans women ever pass?
>>
>>7590151
yes i do
misgendering isnt gonna be a thing any time soon.
at least by strangers and not friends
>>
>>7590150
yeah it reminds me of this one cute boy who was always coated in fucking deoderant
>>
>>7590151
:(
>>
>>7590153
just
i found a stick the other day
borderline got me aroused.
>>
>>7590152
I think most people are doing it to be polite. In most first world countries, people are aware of trans issues and try to be very considerate towards trans women who are trying very hard to pass. But it doesn't mean they don't notice the obvious maleness.
>>
>>7590161
>>7590161
>>7590161
>>7590161
>>
>>7590159
Very very incorrect, I notice a huge difference when I use a female voice and no one cares and I use a male voice and people's heads suddenly snap to look at me

I spent 3 days at a theme park, believe me, it's super obvious every time I did it
>>
>>7590086
My era was more conservative. I definitely got forced hard into boy during first grade. Lots of repression, plus teasing and harassment from the bullies. With some exceptions with the girls down the street, I repressed until I was drug out by my mentor and his client around my 14th b-day. With the girls down the street I did some stuff like design them clothing.

>>7590151
yes

>>7590129
My parents were at least decent and treated me well, but I still didn't let my transness show to them until this time around. The couple times I breached it made me feel they were against it. After HS I was very busy so I didn't see them at all from just post HS graduation until after conversion therapy when I was about 22. I never got to come out to them after HS. I'd planned to when they first visited me in NYC.
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