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Who else here can't figure out if they're genuinely

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Who else here can't figure out if they're genuinely transgender or are just fucked in the head about sexuality?

Like, I've read the studies regarding how transgenderism is rooted in the brain's white matter failing to fully masculinize / masculinizing when it's supposed to feminize (MtFs and FtMs, respectively), and how those white matter differences can cause both social distress and body dysphoria regarding sex characteristics, but how do I know that's the case and I'm not just confused or subconsciously misguided about sex?

I had some sexual trauma as a child and I'm worried that it, alongside a brief flirtation with radical 3rd wave feminism in my confused teen years (i was a dumbass, I'm not like that now), might've simply made me uncomfortable or hate myself for being male, and now I'm subconsciously seeing the concept of femininity as a means of distancing myself from my maleness. I feel dysphoria about all sorts of different things, but yet I'm still able to ignore it and suppress the thoughts. Maybe I've just got strong willpower or ability to control what i ignore, which doesnt sound too odd for me, but then again what if I don't even have genuine body dysphoria and what I'm actually feeling is a learned, socially-ingrained hatred for my own masculinity?

Has anybody else felt this way? what did you do about it? I don't want to destroy my body on HRT if whatevers causing my dysphoria can simply be unlearned rather than it being a physical abnormality in my brain. Maybe I could get a brain scan and ask a neurobiologist to determine whether or not it was a masculine or feminine brain.
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for clarification i am a biological male, in case anyone was confused.
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>>7531902
If this is not a troll you are probably trans. Don't kid yourself though. Dysphoria just gets worse.
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>>7531902
Been in doubts for a while but figured Im just fucked
JUST
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>>7531902
Put off transitioning for a decade because of questions like this finally started and everything is a million times better. But I know if I hadn't fucked around for so long I could be even happier with myself.
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>>7532028
wait, so dysphoria can "creep up on you" so to speak?

I'm not a troll, I'm just genuinely worried that I'll start HRT and spend all this effort and sacrifice so much to try and be a girl and whoops as it turns out i was just brainwashed by feminism/expressing bottled up mental trauma. If I don't actually have a transgender brain and I'm just socially fucked, im shaving my head and joining the military asap. If I actually am transgender then, well, shit guess I'm gonna have to live life as a fucking 6'3" barely passable tranny.
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There is no test to figure this out, sorry.
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>>7533749
I remember reading about a study, i cant find it easily now (shoulve boookmarked it) where scientists in italy (i think) were able to find portions of white matter in mtf trannies that were consistently differently developed and differently shaped than the same parts in cis males.
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>>7533749
>>7533782
This is true, but it's even easier than that. Just check your digit ratio.
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You sound kind of like me except I'm a female. I think to be trans you have to be neurologically intersex. I consider myself spiritually intersex. I don'thave dysphoria over my body, but I do like presenting and being thought of as male. If you have dysphoria over your body then you're probably just trans.
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being transgender and fucked in the head about sexuality are the same thing
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>>7533839
>spiritually intersex

fuck off back to tumblr, roastie transtrender cunt. Seriously, people like you should fucking kill themselves.
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>>7533842
being transgender is being fucked in the head by your brain being structured along one sexual morphology, but your body along another. it's exceedingly rare and caused by hormonal imbalances in the mother during pregancy

What i meant by being "normally" fucked in the head about gender is having social influences and childhood psychological trauma delude yourself into thinking youre trans when youre not.


Believe me, I'm not one of those "I am a woman because i feel like i am" idiots. I'm a biological male, always will be, and I've been feeling body dysphoria, presumably due to being "normally" fucked in the head and hating myself or, alternatively, by only having a partially masculinized brain.
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>>7533888
Fuck you dude. I said I wasn't trans. I'm some other type of gender nonconforming and OP might be too.
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>>7533942
"gender nonconforming" is bullshit cultural marxism. Shut the everloving fuck up. The fact that you like to crossdress doesnt fucking matter, it doesnt even fucking relate to transgenderism or even intersex issues. Please jump off a fucking bridge.
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>>7533942
OP here, fucking shut up please. nobody cares.
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>>7533942
>some other type of gender nonconforming
aka transtrender
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>>7534441
>crossdress
implying women can crossdress
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>>7534519
women, can crossdress? women wearing mens suits (not womens suits) for example, are crossdressing? most butch lesbians crossdress? it's just more socially acceptable for women to crossdress than it is for men to do so.
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>>7533667
If you're the OP, then you shouldn't transition for the sake of other trans people. Your presence will only hurt the reputation of other genuine transgender people with gender dysphoria, and hinder the progress for young transitioners to live a normal and assimilated life. Stop using your fetish as an excuse to push your degeneracy in public. 6'3" hons like you are the reason why conservatives are pushing for these needless bathroom bills across the states. Do yourself and everyone else a favor, and lay off the shemale/trap porn and do something productive with your life that does not focus on gender bullshit. Would you still transition if in 10 years time, the transgender novelty wears off and trans rights are reverted? Most people were hopping on the transgender train ever since freak shows like Caitlyn Jenner got their 15 minutes of fame.
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>>7531902

>Has anybody else felt this way? what did you do about it? I don't want to destroy my body on HRT if whatevers causing my dysphoria can simply be unlearned rather than it being a physical abnormality in my brain.

I worry about this constantly.
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>>7534621
dude i don't give a flying fuck about the trans community, most of you fucks are commies anyways. I just want to be comfortable with myself. Feeling discomfort with my body isn't a fucking fetish, and the social aspects of transistioning disgust me. I don't want to be trans. I don't fucking want to be a freak. But, if transistioning is what I need to do to be comfortable with my body, I'm going to fucking do it with no fucking regard for your pretentious bullshit. Plus, you're fucking acting like you're somehow not a degenerate because you pass, and that's fucking bullshit. I don't give a fuck about you or any other trannies or your fucking social movement. I'm going to fucking deal with my dysphoria and move on with my life rather than be like you and sit here as the Grand Arbiter of HRT on a fucking anime forum.
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>>7534687
op here again wanting to add something

I fucking have gender dysphoria. If it's caused by brain morphology, I'm just as fucking valid as you and i'm not going to kill myself or live life as a male just because some fuck on the internet goes "ohhhh im scared that if someone doesnt pass 100% then the evil republicans will send me to the death camps!!!"

My post was whether or not I was sure I actually had dysphoria caused by brain morphology or whether it was a learned trait. It doesn't have anything to fucking do with fetishes, it was a valid question, and how fucking dare you assume I'm a transtrender just because I was asking for advice on how to doublecheck to make sure I'm really trans before I chemically and surgically alter my body, because unlike you I have an actual life and identity outside of being a fucking tranny.
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>>7534621
>muh community
off yourself
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OP also presents with extreme anger.
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>>7531902
Try killing yourself
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>https://www.google.com/search?q=mtf+brain+scan+vs+non+mtf&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS595US595&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiu86vjhbHRAhWEh1QKHXadCrYQ_AUICCgB&biw=971&bih=635


So I've been trying to decipher brain scans and I still can't tell.
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>>7534777
??? not sure i follow?
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>>7534719
OP sounds exactly like a stereotypical bitter hon just from reading his posts. He no doubt will look like a hon as well in the future.
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>>7534777
OP has too much testosterone-induced rage in his body. It's natural for men to feel only anger when presented with an obstacle or a situation they do not like.
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>>7533667

>brainwashed by feminism

It's /pol/.

It's a shame because I was gonna make a thread very similar to this. I'm just curious cishet dude though.

I'll just piggyback on this thread.

How much of the therapy received by MtF cases centers around accepting ones male persona? Is there talk of how you see men? How you see yourself as a man? What you don't like about yourself as a man? Et cetera?

Or is it just "welp you say you're sure you're a woman so here's your pills"?

I want to know so I can defend you to other people, if that makes you any more willing to share.
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>>7534875

>shameless piggybacking

Not op here, but I'll piggy back onto your question.
I'm in therapy for something unrelated and brought up
the transgender thing. Counselor basically told me
to let it be, and brought up neuroplasticity.

Been looking for brain differences in females and males, came across this.


>Patients with bilateral lesions of the vmPFC develop severe impairments in personal and social decision-making[4][7] even though most of their intellectual ability is preserved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventromedial_prefrontal_cortex
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>Inb4 this isn't my personal blog
>On average, males excel relative to females at certain spatial tasks. Specifically, males have an advantage in tests that require the mental rotation or manipulation of an object.[44] They tend to outperform females in mathematical reasoning and navigation. In a computer simulation of a maze task, males completed the task faster and with fewer errors than their female counterparts. Additionally, males have displayed higher accuracy in tests of targeted motor skills, such as guiding projectiles.[43]
Males are also faster on reaction time and finger tapping tests.[45]
On average, females excel relative to males on tests that measure recollection. They have an advantage on processing speed involving letters,digits and rapid naming tasks.[45] Females tend to have better object location memory and verbal memory.[46] They also perform better at verbal learning.[47] Females have better performance at matching items and precision tasks, such as placing pegs into designated holes. In maze and path completion tasks, males learn the goal route in fewer trials than females, but females remember more of the landmarks presented. This shows that females use landmarks in everyday situations to orient themselves more than males. Females are better at remembering whether objects had switched places or not.[43]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_sex_differences
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>>7534621
Shut your fuck, brat.

You are probably not even that passable, and even if you are, you are not only fucked in your head (remember, gender dysphoria is a mental disorder), but also a shit human being.

Also, the stuff you said about the Republicans says a lot about you being a shitty communist. Fucking scum.
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>>7535259
Wow, so much anger on this thread! You guys have more rage built inside of you than bodybuilders who abuse steroids. People like you should never be allowed to use the women's bathroom so little girls won't get traumatized by your anger management disorder.
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