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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUN75MGqdpU
>http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/01/editors-note-gender/

>She has lived as an openly transgender girl since age 5, and she captured the complexity of the conversation around gender. Today, we're not only talking about gender roles for boys and girls—we're talking about our evolving understanding of people on the gender spectrum.

Left leaning, pro LGBT /pol/tard here. Defend this shit, faggots! This is fucking child abuse.
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>>7429007
Nigger, I'm attracted to traps. The thing is a 5 year old child can barely be considered conscious and is therefore unaware of the implications of such a choice. A 5 year old can't possibly understand the differences between genders beyond a superficial level, let alone the social and sexual implications of begin trans. This is attention whoring SJWs inducing gender dysphoria into healthy children's minds. I'm willing to bet that this "girl" is going to deeply regret this at best and committing suicide by the age of 16 at worst.
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>>7429007
Because this is a child who was pushed into this by their shitty parents.
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>>7428997
Fuck off pedophile spammer.
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>>7428997

This is child abuse, 1:34, the poor goy is afraid of his mother. Look how he clenches his fists in the presence of his mother.
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>Left leaning, pro LGBT
you are fooling no one. back to your containment board, /pol/tard
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>>7429071
>So if the child naturally presented feminine it would have made it okay to transition them...?
Only if it persists into puberty.

>fine and absolutely necessary for the great uncucking of males.
>uncucking males by becoming girls

>>7429085
I am not a LARP-fag, I promise. Plenty of people on /pol/ are libertarian.
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>>7429028
So by that logic, all children should be forced to present androgynously, since forcing them into ANY gender is child abuse since they cannot understand the implications.

>>7429042
[citation needed]
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>>7429097
>>uncucking males by becoming girls
Forcing boys to bow down and subscribe to toxic masculinity is cuckery by definition. It's telling boys that their own desires and agency is irrelevant, that they should surrender their own existence to serve an entity which doesn't care about them.
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>>7429108
99% of people are cis and a 4 year old would not even come up with the idea that boys can be girls if it's not pushed on them by their parents or the (((media))).

>[citation needed]
Here is your citation, faggot:
https://twitter.com/transgirl_mom?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

>SJW trans activist's child wants to be a girl at the age of FIVE
Yeah, surly "she" was born this way. There is no way "she" was brainwashed into this by "her" environment, right?

>toxic masculinity
HAHAHAH. Kill yourself. Every time someone uses that phrase I feel like swallowing testosterone. Don't get me wrong, feminizing boys is hot, but don't pretend that this perversion is the norm while denouncing the actual norm as "toxic masculinity". Society needs to burn, and you with it.
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>>7429156
>99% of people are cis and a 4 year old would not even come up with the idea that boys can be girls if it's not pushed on them by their parents or the (((media))).
It doesn't even take an idea. You just know that there's something wrong with your body - and if you know what a girl is, you know that you'd rather have that kind of body.

>HAHAHAH. Kill yourself. Every time someone uses that phrase I feel like swallowing testosterone. Don't get me wrong, feminizing boys is hot, but don't pretend that this perversion is the norm while denouncing the actual norm as "toxic masculinity". Society needs to burn, and you with it.
It's not like becoming a girl is the only way to escape toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity is the idea that a man should be shamed for seeking help, that a man unwilling to commit violent acts on other men for trivial offenses is weak, and that a man who receives violence from other men automatically deserves it. None of these ideas are beneficial to males, except those males who increase their social status by using these ideas to discredit and shame other males.
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Does anyone know if this issue is already on magazine stands? I wanna get one
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>>7429188
>It doesn't even take an idea. You just know that there's something wrong with your body - and if you know what a girl is, you know that you'd rather have that kind of body.

Implying that boys and girls don't look exactly the same before puberty.
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>>7429200
So until you were like 12 or so, you were unable to distinguish boys from girls within your own age group? I'm not buying it.
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>>7429200
It's not just looks, you waste of dubs.

Girls and boys are segregated right from the get-go in schools, and it doesn't take the average kid too long to figure out whether or not they're with the right group
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>>7429188
>Toxic masculinity is the idea that a man should be shamed for seeking help
In a society that literally cares about everyone except straight white men, can you blame us for saying "fuck it" and dealing with our problems the way we see fit? I grew up believing that society is kind and caring, but that was a delusion. In reality nothing, absolutely nothing is given to you. Don't expect anything from anyone. Not your friends, not even your family, because they will end up letting you down when you needed them the most. Carving your own path, becoming your own man, overcoming seemingly impossible challenges over and over again, constantly improving yourself, until you are no longer reliant on anyone's compassion and good will but your own, to secure your own happiness. That is what it means to be a man. Fuck your "toxic" hate mongering.
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>>7429257
Isn't this just what it's like to be anyone? Life is hard yo
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>>7429257
You're just falling for the meme. No, sorry, it's not like any problem can be overcome just because you're a man, the world doesn't work like that. Sometimes you do need to ask for help. But toxic masculinity means you're shamed for it, society would rather men destroy themselves than work together to survive.
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>>7429310
>girl exclusive scholar ships
>black exclusive scholar ships
>girl issue awareness campaigns 24/7
>race issue awareness campaigns 24/7
>safe spaces

Libtards have built a society with safety nets for everyone expect straight white men. If you are a minority group you can look at all this bullshit above and think to yourself "at least people care about my issues". If you are not all you see is people caring about literally everyone except yourself. Then you point out that your life is shit and that you need help, to which society says "you have privilege, stop complaining". And then they wonder why so many young men turn into right wing radicals. Fuck your shitty world, it stinks.
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>>7429347
Are you the same person as >>7429257? Because if you are, you're retarded. First you're all like, "men shouldn't ask for help, they can handle anything on their own" and now you're like "WHY ISN'T ANYONE HELPING MEN?!?!"
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>>7429346
I've been let down by my parents and my friends in a certain phase where I needed them the most and it turned me into a completely different person. Why should I ask for help if no one gives a shit?

>>7429361
I'm not expecting any help, because when I asked for help I got shit on and got nothing but a slap to the face.
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>>7429347
>>7429377
>legitimately suggests that his life is worse than black people's because his mommy and daddy didn't love him

Bruh.
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>>7429393
>implying you can quantify emotional pain and feeling of loneliness
>implying money, class and status aren't a million times more important than race or gender

This board is literally /tumblr/.
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>>7429377
So since no one was willing to help you in the past, you're never going to ask for help again even when you need it, and you're going to advocate shaming those who do ask for help?
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>>7429429
I'm not advocating the shaming of anyone, fuckface. Way to twist my words. What I'm saying is: If you are a straight white man and you expect help from anyone, you're an idiot. Don't rely on others, because eventually you will get hurt this way.
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>>7429441
>>7429429
Also you're the one doing the shaming here. "toxic masculinity" is shaming normal boys and men for not being soft or "girly" enough. Fuck that noise.
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>>7429452
No, it is not. Rather, that is the interpretation heard by those who buy into the meme and think that asking for help, or not wanting to be subject to non-consensual violence, is soft and girly.
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>>7429484
>or not wanting to be subject to non-consensual violence
Yeah, because men fantasize about getting punched in the face 24/7. right? What a load of horseshit! Men need to be able to act violently for the sake of defending themselves. If you are alone, the only defense against violence is violence.
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>>7429502
No, you don't understand. I'm talking about aggressive, non-defensive violence. I'm talking about men being punished with violence for the crime of being male. I'm talking about boys being beaten up by other boys without provocation, less then two feet away from adults who were unwilling to do anything, because "boys will be boys". Violence is so normalized in male culture that people don't even recognize it as violence - the idea that a boy might not want another boy to jam his fist into his chest is seen as utterly alien.

And if anyone was punished for violence, it was those fighting back to defend themselves. Toxic masculinity is fully on the side of the aggressor, because apparently unprovoked violence is normal male behavior, yet fighting back when it's the only way to get them to stop makes you the bad guy.
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>>7429539
>And if anyone was punished for violence, it was those fighting back to defend themselves.
Good lord, you're a moron. The reason your bullies got away with kicking to to the curb while you got detention is because they make YOU look like the aggressor, because they only initiate conflict when no one is looking, so your defensive reaction can be taken out of context. That's literally bullying 101. Literally nobody thinks unprovoked violence is okay.
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>>7429441
>I'm not advocating the shaming of anyone
>If you are a straight white man and you expect help from anyone, you're an idiot

Umm, anon? Are you reading what you write?

Look dude, I try to sympathize with people like you. I primarily listen to emo music because it's 99% straight white men reflecting about their existential isolation and I like this because as a transwoman, it makes me realize "Hey, straight white men are about as generic as it gets in this country, and even they can feel lost and misunderstood in this world. Perhaps it's unrealistic that I hope for anything more than that".

Every living thing in this world suffers hardship. Every living thing in this world is deserving of help, and is not wrong to seek it. Consider that humans are instinctively social, and that before relatively recently, people seldom ventured past the safety and security of their families and the community their family had subsisted in for generations. In lieu of that strong familial bond, it's only natural to seek out bonds like it. Yes, you will be taken advantage of. Yes, people will fall short of your need. But these realities don't invalidate the fundamental truth that humans are only capable of truly great things when they work together. Nothing you've accomplished would be possible without the choices and actions of others; most significantly, your parents' decision to fuck you into existence. If you truly need help, keep seeking it, anon. Don't be jaded, don't think that the cards are stacked against you. You are alive, and that means you've already won.
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>>7429563
How the fuck did I look like the aggressor? An adult was right there the whole time, did nothing when the guys started punching me, but when I tried to push them away, I got in trouble.
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>>7429605
>calling someone an idiot on 4chan is the same thing as publicly shaming heathy gender expression via the media
Top kek, m8.

>Every living thing in this world is deserving of help, and is not wrong to seek it.
I never said that, you retard. I said that EXPECTING that anyone will answer your call for help when you need it is setting yourself up for disappointment and bitter anti-social resentment.

>Hey, straight white men are about as generic as it gets in this country
>muh minority status
Everyone is a minority of one. Stop this shallow collective groupthink garbage.

>But these realities don't invalidate the fundamental truth that humans are only capable of truly great things when they work together.
Commie detected. Humans are fundamentally selfish. And no, I'm not an Ayn Rand fag, I'm actually kind of a socialist. Plenty of people have done great things as individuals and while their work was based on the great people that came before them (shoulders of giants, etc), it's always a collection of individuals efforts, not a individual efforts of the collective. There is no collective. There is no us. There is no them. There is only (you). 7 billion (you)s. And everyone is different in some way. Stop thinking in groups, you commie fag.

>Don't be jaded, don't think that the cards are stacked against you.
I will, once SJWism has been defeated. The SJW agenda is to stack cards against the people they deem oppressive based on collective bullshit. If the media tells you that you are a racist sexist piece of shit for simply existing, how can you not conclude that someone is trying to stack the cards against you? It's the same way gays were treated in the 1950s.
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>>7429650
Then the adult is just a prick. Don't correlate people being assholes with masculinity. Women can be horrible people too.
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>>7429699
Toxic masculinity doesn't mean that only men can be pricks, rather it's what influenced these pricks (whether male or female) to do nothing to stop violence against men, because they think violence against men is normal and acceptable, and anyone seeking to stop violence against men is disrupting the societal order.
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>>7429719
Go ahead then. Go and punch man in the face without provocation or warning and see how people around you react. Spoiler alert: They will not think you're "cool" or "manly", they will think you of as a deranged aggressive monkey.
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>>7429693
Wow, you are really angry. Also, just for fun;

>Stop this shallow collective groupthink garbage.
>The SJW agenda is to stack cards against the people they deem oppressive

You are expert at being blind to your own hypocrisy
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>>7429754
>Wow, you are really angry.
I'm not. Just a little bitter. The only reason I'm using slurs and insults is because I can. Also (in case you haven't noticed, because you're a tumblr parasite) this sort of tone is the default on 4chan if two people are in heavy disagreement over a certain topic. It's the beauty of this site. Consequence free shit flinging, without the artificial pretense of politeness. If you don't like it, go back to neogaf, or where ever the hell you came from, because you strike me as someone who hasn't spend a lot of time with this sites culture.

>You are expert at being blind to your own hypocrisy
SJWs and SJWism is less a group of people and more a group of ideas. You can never stop being white or black or asian. You can never stop being gay. You can stop being an SJW once you realize your entire world view is dangerous and authoritarian.
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Pull up fuck ass nigga n i will hit u with the toolie
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>>7429802
>these assumptions
I've been coming to 4chan since the domain was .net, I've never made a tumblr and never will, and what the fuck is neogaf?

Just because you think 4chan is cool because
>muh cursing
>muh shitposting
doesn't mean anyone else shares your opinion (there goes that unchecked groupthink you loathe so deeply). If I'm serious about a discussion here, I make it a point to level my arguments without peppering them with needless profanity. Your language reminds me of my days as a young man.

Have you ever actually met a self-proclaimed "SJW" in your real life? Even if you have, I can't imagine the number is significantly more than the people you meet that aren't. You are allowing the virtual world to distort your abilty to connect with the reality you materially live in, with the sphere of influence that you actually control. I'm sorry to hear that you are bitter, hope you figure out how to move past that someday.
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>>7429735
Not when I do it, no. But when other people do it, it's perfectly acceptable to them, even if they're standing two feet away when it happens.
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>>7429851
>I make it a point to level my arguments without peppering them with needless profanity.
That's your choice, but chastising people for using crude and over the top language to express their feelings seems really out of place on this website. Have you ever taken a look at encyclopedia dramatica? I'm not demanding or expecting you to be as pointlessly edgy as me, but I'm baffled by your snobbish reaction.

>Have you ever actually met a self-proclaimed "SJW" in your real life?
Nobody calls them self "SJW", because that's an insult. Just like white supremacists call themselves "race realists" and "ethno-nationalists". And yes, I know several people who fit this stereotype perfectly.

>You are allowing the virtual world to distort your ability to connect with the reality you materially live in, with the sphere of influence that you actually control.
That's how I used to think, too. I used to think all of this stuff was irrelevant internet warfare bullshit, that nobody in real life gives a flying fuck about. I thought /pol/ was batshit insane when they told me that society was dominated by liberals. Then I got to college. Turns out the memes were very much real. If they didn't affect my day to day life irl, I wouldn't be sitting on the internet bitching about them.
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>>7429947
I never chastised you, I remarked that you sounded angry. I even offered that you remind me of a younger me, and I didn't mean that in a derogatory way. Is that snobbish? What does encyclopedia dramatica have to do with how you behave on this site?

Oh, you're in college. Well, I'm not. I'm in the workforce and I have the exact opposite experience you do.

I live in a Californian county that voted for Trump, and I don't look around and think
>I thought /leftypol/ was batshit insane when they told me that society was dominated by conservatives
I make an effort to reach out to these people and understand their beliefs as I try to help them understand mine. And my life has only improved. I spoke to someone who believed climate change was a hoax because we had a cold week in July, and I side-stepped that conversation in pursuit of a topic we could agree on. I ended up educating him on the complexities of US military power and our history of foreign conflict, and we parted with a handshake. It was much easier than arguing a meaningless point or browbeating him. Why not try to find a common ground with these people you seem to loathe? There is bound to be some. Truthfully, I think it's a boon to be surrounded by ideological dissenters. Life is a fair bit more interesting that way.

What I'm trying to get you to understand is that you have the power to do good, and to effect change that will make you proud without harboring animosity or forcing others to kowtow to your beliefs. You previously said
>Humans are fundamentally selfish
And while I agree to an extent, this isn't our destiny. We can strive to be better than that, and succeed as many have before us. It used to be human nature to shit on the ground and grunt like apes to communicate to each other. We evolved. You and I can do the same.
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>>7430086
>Why not try to find a common ground with these people you seem to loathe?
I tried, then I committed thoughtcrime by saying something they didn't like and now I'm literally Hitler to them. You can't win with SJWs. That's what makes them SJWs: The fact that they are totalitarian ideologues incapable to consider different viewpoints.

>Truthfully, I think it's a boon to be surrounded by ideological dissenters. Life is a fair bit more interesting that way.
Not if they treat you as the scum of the earth for your audacity to show dissent towards their worldview. Also currently the right and even the radical right is more tolerant towards different view points than the """moderate""" """progressive""" left.

>[...]
Listen, I used to think the exact same way. You are not in college in the CURRENT YEAR, you have no idea what it feels like to be surrounded by brainwashed totalitarians. And I say this AS A LEFTIST. I'm not a conservative. My disgust towards SJWs isn't born from disagreement with their views, it's born from how they treat people they deem "problematic".

>And while I agree to an extent, this isn't our destiny. We can strive to be better than that, and succeed as many have before us.
The fundamental problem is that by law of nature, only people who crave power for the sake of power ever have the chance of seizing it. Good people know that if they we're in power things wouldn't be automatically better, because they lack the arrogance to believe that they know everything about the world. Actually, the kind of people who ultimately end up being in power are even worse than that. They don't believe in their own principles. All they want is power for power sake and they have drunken their own kool-aid to the point where they believe that their malignant terror is actual beneficial to mankind. That pattern repeats over and over in human history. From the french revolution, to soviet Russia and national socialism all they way to the modern day.
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cont. >>7430140
Just look at shit like "you can't be racist towards white people". It's not about social justice. It's about social revenge. Resentful people trying to tear society apart because they got treated like shit and now they feel like it's their "turn" to be in charge and to spit on other people. I'll leave you with this passage from George Orwell's 1984:

>O'Brien was smiling. 'The real power,' he said, 'is not power
>over things, but over men.' He paused and for a moment looked
>like a teacher talking to a clever schoolboy. 'How does one man
>show that he has power over another man, Winston?'
>Winston thought. 'By making him suffer,' he said.
>'Exactly By making him suffer. Power means causing pain.
>Power lies in taking human minds to pieces and putting them
>together again in new shapes of your own choice. Do you begin
>to see, then, what kind of world we are making? It is the opposite
>of the stupid worlds which people used to imagine, worlds of
>love and pleasure. We have built a world of fear and suffering and
>hate. We shall destroy everything else — everything. We are
>destroying the love between child and parent, between man and
>man, and between man and woman. In the future there will be
>no wives and no friends. Children will be taken from their
>mothers when they are born. There will be no love, except the
>love of Big Brother. Nobody will laugh, except at an enemy they
>have destroyed. There will be no art, no literature, no science. If
>you want a picture of the future, Winston, imagine a boot
>stamping on a human face — for ever.'

>>7430162
But I'm not a racist. (Yes, also not a """race realist"""). Racism is pseudo science, but so too is modern day feminism.
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>>7429007
why do you lgbt people always post pics of cara? is she trans or something?
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>>7430140
Who said we'd ever be in "power"? That's not what I'm talking about. You're thinking on a much larger scale, I'm thinking on a local one.

And not trying to pick a fight with you, but nearly your entire post is referring to a group of people like they are a monolith, which is again, something you claim to be opposed to. No ideology is a monolith. This misanthropic view you have of your peers as "brainwashed" isn't a perspective that any well-reasoned individual holds. In fact, it's a dismissal in the very same way that your "SJWs" have dismissed you by apparently labelling you "literally Hitler".

And perhaps I misunderstand, but you shouldn't be thinking about how to "win" with people. You should be thinking about how to peacefully coexist with them, in the event that avoiding them isn't an option. And if it is, perhaps consider that as a solution to your feelings of persecution.
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>>7430209
>You should be thinking about how to peacefully coexist with them
It's impossible to coexist with totalitarians if you're a libertarian. Tolerance towards intolerance is death.
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>>7430174
Man, you really just quoted 1984. You have convinced me that you are hopelessly pessimistic about the world you live in. Nice bantz either way.
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>>7430224
If you read 1984 without seeing disturbing parallels to our current political discourse you're pretty fucking blind. Just look at this "fake news" meme that's been going around. Take a look how people reacted to Trump victory. Take a look at this fucking election. The word of the year is "post-truth" for christ sake!
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>>7430209
>In fact, it's a dismissal in the very same way that your "SJWs" have dismissed you by apparently labelling you "literally Hitler".
I didn't start being dismissive. I wanted dialogue and compromise, just the thing you're advocating. What I got instead was a ticket from the thought police.
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>>7430243
>Just look at this "fake news" meme that's been going around.
Because Drumpflets have been forcing this meme that any nonsense, even the rantings of some schizophrenic 14 year old on Youtube, is more credible than the mainstream media. It doesn't change the fact that if you can say the world you're living in is like 1984, that's a sure sign that the world you're living in is nothing like 1984.
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>>7430190
It's caraposter. A fucking retard with no life. He literally spends all day on lgbt and r9k posting cara.
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>>7430243
Reading through 1984 one of the passages that lept out at me was the scene where winston watches the film of the helicopter shooting the family, the description of people enjoying something so horrible because they were taught that those people are the enemy shook me, the idea of information control scared me, and it scared me further still when i remembered that the vast majority of media can be traced to a few large corporations.
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>>7428997
>Defend this shit, faggots!
Why would I? This is terrible. You think I enjoy having the validity of my medical condition undermined by a fashion trend pushed primarily by greedy mothers? No. I don't like it. I hate it. I hate every second of this.

As soon as I can I need to take charge of some portion of our representation and clear this trash aside.
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>>7430140
>>7430174
>>7430209
>>7430220
>>7430243
>>7430248
>>7430620
“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” -Joseph Heller
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>>7429347
Do you really need people to put their hand on your head and say "good boy here's your schoarship and race awareness campaign".

They don't have scholarships and awareness awards for you because there's a higher chance that a white male will get non specific scholarships and history is told from the perspective of white males.
You're so coddled and protected that you can't even see it anymore.
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>>7428997
This kid hasn't even hit puberty yet and he's already a hon. And the died hair... really? It's like he's a walking, talking meme. We'll probably be reading about his suicide in about 10 to 15. Sad. Nat.Geo should be ashamed.
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>>7437109
Don't waste time with the outgroup. They're every bit as selfish as you realize how selfish you need to be to survive in this world - they just won't admit to it because you're their 'other'.

The internet has created a monster made of people wallowing in their own ingroup filth with no incentive to clean it up for the sake of others they don't identify with. There's no incentive to. Reality isn't there to slap people in the face so we can all focus on 'feels' and triggering our base social instincts to get that sweet dopamine rush.
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>>7430243
Oh please, next thing you'll be telling me is that the US is just like pre-fall Roman empire right?

Demanding that treatment of marginalized groups improves in society improves is not "1984", you're not being endlessly monitored and controlled, there is no lack of reliable knowledge - in fact, almost everyone has free access to it in the palm of their hand. Reading that book and learning about the dangers of oppressive governments is literally part of the required curriculum. Do you really think that this is what Orwell was talking about? Most of the discourse of the previous election has centered around being critical of the establishment.
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>>7437189
actually the US and is much closer to weimar republic germany.
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>>7437231
Yeah because the US recently went through the most exhaustive war and then a revolution that completely changed the structure of the government, PRETTY much the same thing tbqh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Twenties
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>>7437241
>That diseased psuedo-scientific language in the wikipedia article

Impossible to tell that a pedo has just shit out a bunch of bullshit all over it. 100000/10
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>>7437231

I know right? Remember when California and Florida became independent countries and we abolished our monarchy 15 years ago? The parallels are striking.
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>>7437272
/pol/ plz go
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>>7437282
Are all your white supremacist friends going to start screaming that Black Lives Matter protesters? Do you think it will blow them out even a fraction as hard as it's blown me out?
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>>7437309
i actually have no idea what you're talking about at all
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>>7437316
Do I need to break out the baby talk? Can you even hear me through that shit filled diaper you have wrapped around your head?
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>>7429347
You're like a child with three scoops of ice cream and sees a black kid get a scoop of ice cream and then start crying because you didn't get ice cream when he did
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>>7437336
It's funny that you would say that, since there was a scientific experiment to measure the morality of babies that went almost exactly like that.

70% cared about what's fair, sure, and might only want a bite or two more than the other baby. But around 30% didn't want the other baby to have any at all, ever, no matter what.

Psychopathy isn't rare. It's only violent psychopathy that is rare.

Do you have some brilliant philosophy that's going to teach a psychopath empathy?
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>>7437354
Outbreed the psychopath
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>>7437373
Nobody outbreeds psychopaths. And anyway that would be a boring route to victory.

Why do so many people think peace is so desirable? The only fond memories I have involve violent strife. The only good thing about life is death.
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>>7437383
Does your mother know you're walking around with all that edge?
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>>7437390
She does. She's tried to stab me almost as many times as I've tried to stab her. :)
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>>7437397
K
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>>7437146
Well, google and facebook actually go out of their way to create echo chambers and lock away portions of the net from people.
That and groups who's entire power dynamic and sense of self comes from them being the other and the groups who profit from them pushing them.

It's actually destroying any and all possibility of people being able to connect to each other in a real way and destroying any and all possibility of the net gaining it's true possibility.
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>>7437276
well it's nice to know you fags think referring to Trump as "literally hitler" or thinking of Trump or Pence as being even remotely fascist is ridiculous. I guess you degenerates aren't that bad after all.
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>>7437427
They are still pretty fashy tbqh considering it's more power to the capitalist landlords, but the comparisons to Weimer are unwarranted, as are the ones to 1984 and Rome. All those periods where way different than the bullshit we have going now
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>>7437436
nah, you're wrong. calling them fascists is just as silly as saying comparing them Weimer, 1984, or Rome
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>>7437508
Nah, you're wrong. Comparing them to fascists, Hitler, and the fall of Rome all make perfect sense.

That is the consensus of 70% of all the people on Earth. Most of them don't even speak English and they can figure this out. Why can't you? ;)
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>>7437526
quit trying to use your newspeak on me you agent of Oceania. So obvious your trying to make it 1984 all over again.
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>>7437427
W-what are they gigglin' about?
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>>7437561
An audience member was asking if they thought Bernie Sanders was going to return the money that his supporters had donated to his presidential campaign.
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That kid is going to kill herself at 15.
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>>7428997
Gender pronouns were originally used to identify and/or inform the listener of the sex of the individual in question; whether they were a man or a woman. The modern definitions of genders as separate identities from the sex of the individual aren't even a century old. They were developed as part of the study of the social expectations of individuals, as a way to identify the responsibilities and lifestyles expected of a man or a woman. Some of the first definitive records of the modern standard didn't roll around until 1955 as part of John Money's studies into sexual identities of the modern human, and the usage as a categorization of masculine/feminine/others personalities in modern terms didn't begin until the fucking 1970s. Sociological genders were never meant to be used as labels to declare what a person is, but as a way to categorize studies into what is expected of people. The idea of actually categorizing people into specific roles is as old the human race, but consciously separating your gender form your sex isn't even fifty years old, and it was never intended of the studies. What happens was a bunch of confused people with hobbies and interests that stepped outside of whatever was the social norm at the time caught wind of these sociological studies, and misguidedly assumed that this meant that they must have the opposite gender from their sex.
The idea that activity or style can be exclusively masculine or feminine is not only archaic, but additionally contradictory to the aforementioned research. What should've happened is people stopped assigning specific social roles to the individual sexes, and just let everyone do whatever comes naturally to them regardless of whether they were male or female.
Instead we have an ass-backwards society that's fighting labels by labeling themselves like a bunch of asinine half-wits, because they mistakenly believe that they are required to be some specific gender categorization.

> TL;DR
It's all bullshit.
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>>7428997
>rasing your kids in ways I don't like is child abuse but I should be able to beat/electrically shock some "sense" in to my kids without oversensitive liberals calling it abuse!
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>>7439132
Of course all the actual statistics and research suggest suicide rate drops to within the general population after transition but I'm sure your triggered feels are more accurate than silly numbers and facts :^)
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>>7439264
>trans people didn't exist until the 70s

Fucking lol
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>>7439264
You do realize that there are cultures in the world that have actually had more than 2 gender categories right?

>What should've happened is people stopped assigning specific social roles to the individual sexes, and just let everyone do whatever comes naturally to them regardless of whether they were male or female.
Instead we have an ass-backwards society that's fighting labels by labeling themselves like a bunch of asinine half-wits, because they mistakenly believe that they are required to be some specific gender categorization.
What makes you think that the social institutions that perpetuate patriarchy will just stop? that's pretty naive, it's entirely adaptive to maintain itself and dissociating gender from sex is just another manifestation of that
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>>7439980
>that feel when the liberal feminist jews are even time traveling now to advance their gender agenda conspiracy
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>>7439996
My only agenda is to dismantle the patriarchy
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>>7428997
Children should not be made to ask these questions about themselves that they're not ready to ask, just because it's trendy.
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>>7429108
that would be true if biological sex didnt exist
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>>7442512
And what makes you think they're MADE to ask these questions about themselves? Agency isn't something your parents give to you in a box when you turn 18.
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