What's with this elbow thingy men and most trannies whether

I'm not 100 sure what I'm looking at.

Another one to look at is the forearm length in comparison to upper arm. If you hold your fist pu near your shoulder males will most likely have their wrist align with the top of their shoulder whereas females will have the top of their fist align. There are noticeable sex differences.

Arms are the easiest way to clock a tranny, in my experience.

Even hands aren't very reliable, I'm a cis male with super girly hands, but arms usually tell the tale.

>>7320290
>whereas females will have the top of their fist align
... with their shoulders?

>>7320285
elbows from the front

>>7320271
Thanks for more tranny detection equipment. Cheers.

>>7320271
I just saw my elbow and thanks for giving me more dysphoria.
I never paid attention to it before. Holy shit.

>>7320302
What is it about the arms that allows you to clock them?

>>7320324
I don't have enough anatomical knowledge to explain it, the proportions of the arms are just masculine. The forearms are wider near the elbow for one, like in OP pic rel

>>7320309

yep

>>7320324

see

>>7320290

>>7320271
is there a way to get a girly elbow?

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>>7320290

>mfw shoulder aligns with top of fist and not wrist

Are you sure you didn't mix that up?

>>7320402

Nope. You're lucky then, good for you. I did say *most likely*

Could you maybe provide better photos of what you actually mean? Preferably something with more than cut-out elbow.

>>7320402
>>7320415
same for me and i'm a cis male lol

>>7320317
no problem brah, stay safe

>>7320290
>>7320402
>tfw shoulders align with middle of fist
T-thats something right

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>>7320271
It would help if the example arms were shown at the same angle. The "female" arm is a three quarter view the other is full on.

>>7320290
>tfw i have klinefelter's and that would theoretically make me 'more female' but it also gives me long, unproportional arms...

>>7320381
Unless you started hormones at 12, I am afraid not.

Can someone draw rest of the body because I still can't see at what angle the whole picture is.

>>7320497
>It would help if the example arms were shown at the same angle
Actually they are.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Human_Body.jpg

>>7320555
sucks

>>7320271
wtf im a man in my 20 and i dont have that fat elbow

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>>7320271
So am I forever clockable?

>>7320271
tfw girl elbow because early transition

>>7320630
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>7320614
You look like a North Korean defector, go eat something, then we can judge.

>>7320290
The top of my fist aligns, phew.

I also have the bottom part of that "fat elbow", the one that points toward the body, but not the top part, the one that points away.

>>7320290
Post pics of how it should look like, I don't get it.

>>7320290
>tfw the top of my fist aligns
Y A Y
A
Y

>>7320697
If you bring your fists up to your shoulders like you are doing the thing that Wallace does in Wallace and Gromit, or like you are putting your thumbs in the lapels of your jacket, the tops of your fists should be at the same level as the tops of your shoulders, as opposed to being higher.

>>7320734
>as opposed to being higher.
for me they even are slightly lower
is it bad/good?

>>7320290
>tfw masculine cis male
>tfw shoulder is higher than my fist

Always knew I was disproportionate.

>>7320704
>top of my fist aligns with shoulder
>drumstick elbow

I guess I broke even, then.

>>7320734
if i understand right how you ment then my fist is lower then my shoulder, not sure if its good or bad

>>7320271
Yeah I'll take muscle mass for 500, Alex

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>>7320271
I have super-pointy elbows, but they bend backwards quite a bit which is more common for females or children

>>7320271
can't really tell if I am female or just in the middle.

>>7320290
i pass this test though.
>tfw girly forearm length to upper arm

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Dear diary,
Today I learned that my arms pass.
I always knew I had girly arms, but this confirms it.
Today was a good day.
Sincerely,
The Dark Lady.

>>7320970
>tfw Sylvannas will never step on you
sad

>>7320970
can we rub feminine penises together

sincerely,

the most kawaii desu tranny in the world

>>7320970
>Dear diary, today I was an avatarfagging faggot on a Thai bamboo basket weaving forum. Sincerely, The Dark Faggot

If you have a girlelbow then you are trutrans.
If you have a broelbow then you are AGP.

>>7324838
im pretty new to this whole thing, what does agp means?

>>7320970
I've seen your pics unfortunately hon, you don't pass

>>7324919
accelerated graphics port

>>7320271
Glad to confirm I'm still a cis girl my elbow looks like the left one.

>>7324998
He's autistic so it's not like he cares about your comment at all.

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What possible evolutionary advantage would there be to have an elbow like that on the right?

What did she (evolution) mean by this?

Im a ftm and have the second elbow, but i didn't use to

its because of forearm muscle i think

>>7325081
>its because of forearm muscle
God, maybe you are right. It kinda feels like fat though and if I squeeze it hard enough it resembles the elbow on the left.
t. mtf with dudelbows

Thats the elbow thing?

I thought it was wimmens ability to bend the elbow back further then mens.

>>7320271
I've spent a fucking year doing exhaustive anatomy studies of men and women of all different shapes and sizes and I can tell you beyond any shadow of a doubt that men and women have the same arm muscles. Dumbass.

>>7320271
Guys usually have lower body fat and higher muscle mass
leading to this bony skinny upper arm and muscular forearm

Grilles usually have a higher body fat percentage and lower muscle mass
leading to this doughier, softer, uniformly shaped arm

anorexic grilles tend to have dude elbows

>>7325279
>leading to this bony skinny upper arm and muscular forearm
huh really made me think

does the elbow muscle ever go away?

>>7325279
I think this is it. My elbow sticks out a little bit like in the picture, so I was worried about it, but I'm like 5'8'' and only like 120 pounds, so I think it's only natural. I noticed my cis girl friend's arm last night, and it looked pretty much the same as mine, she weighs a bit more than me but she's like 6'1'', so I think it's just something that skinny girls have

>>7320271
So hairy and not so hairy?

>>7325250

Could you pontificate on where you can find the genuine differences?

>>7325250
The same?
If you claim that they the same number and arrangement of muscles, then that's true, but it doesn't matter for this discussion.

I.... think I have grill elbow?

Also, I pass the fist-shoulder test. When do I get my Blanchard-approved TruTrans badge of honor?

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hmmm

>>7320570
>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Human_Body.jpg

They're not. His arms are straightened out more, while hers are in a more relaxed and curved posture.

Are you autistic? You seem unable to understand the nuances of basic human body language.

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Guess my gender

couldn't you just grind down whatever offending bone is in the way? seems like an outpatient gig if it clocks you

>>7320290
i apparently have a grills arm proportion...
>gay dude

>>7329901
what a ugly arm

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>>7329901
I don't know but I want you to go post your cry for help somewhere else where people would actually give a shit.

>>7329901
nice ftm bottom surgery breh

>>7320290
>tfw you're in the middle

WHAT AM I

>>7320271
this is a large forearm muscle. Any female guitarist will have the same muscular build there.

>>7330430
transitioning elbow

>>7325081
same, ftm tranny with dude elbows even though im auschwitz tier in terms of muscle mass and body weight, it's probably muscle+base bone that gives the drumstick look

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>>7320271
That's not the only thing you have to worry about

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>>7320290
>tfw top of fist only just reaches alignment with top of elbow
>tfw i am a cis boy

My arm is a disgrace to my gender, just cut my dick off, boys ;-;

>>7329901
>dat scar
FTM???

>>7331288
The elbow thing makes me male, but the finger thing – female. So do I pass or not?

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>>7326417
>norwegian salmon clubbing site members
>not autistic
lmao

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>>7331288
guys help am cis boy but my hand said i am more female than female wat do

>>7331334
hrt & hmu

>>7331364
No thanks I have a boyfriend who doesnt even know what 4chan is and thats exactly how i like them.

>>7331288

Actually mtfs have the same index finger length as cis females. So you don't have to worry about shit.

>>7331334
>that girly waist
>that female 2d:4d ratio
what a sissy you are

>>7331394
Technically my ratio is neither male nor female

Look at the picture, i am a rare gender

Also you cant even see my waist, this shirt is a LARGE nigger my body is formless

>>7329901
Cis emo fag.

>>7320271
>>7320290
>>7331288
>female on all of these
phew

>>7320290
could sombody draw what he means? im not the sharpets tool in the shed