I feel you
>>7217132
At least you're not fat, anon.
>>7217132
Just do stomach vacuums
Progressively overload with your training sessions as you would for training any other muscle groups.
Getting stronger internal obliques and transverse abdominis is the answer
Work to getting 10 second vacuums with FULL contraction (may take some weeks)
Then practice getting longer times, squeezing hard as possible, and doing then while
-on all fours
-walking
-seated
-hanging
-doing light dumbbell or cable pullovers
-doing decline sit ups
Really focus on doing it every single day (at least 3 standard sets)
Try to set a PR 2-3x a week at least.
For the first few weeks you can probably PR every day.
Progression is key, always get better
>tfw man face and also a tall wide-shouldered fridgebod
Should I kill myself?
>>7217748
Being fat is 9/10 times a choice
>>7218757
same here
yes
>>7218757
Iktf
t. 36 cm shoulders
On a scale of fuckboy to Clare, how bad is it?
>>7217132
stop crying, girl, face is the most important for passing and attractiveness, you are already lucky
learn to posture and always bend shoulders backwards
starve - lose stomach fat/core muscles to get waistline, lose muscles on your delts to make shoulders less wide
than bulk on HRT to get a fat ass
>>7218757
>>7218772
feel you, Im saving money for Korean-tire face butchery to saw off my man jaw, body can be hidden under clothes
>>7218858
>face is the most important for passing
Only online
>>7218923
>implying it isn't irl too
spotted the unpassing hon
>>7218923
most important, not "only"
mannerism and voice are crucial and underestimated for irl passing
>tfw incredible ass but everything else is manly as hell
No fun
>>7218986
Post ass
>>7217902
what the fuck am I reading? like what is this? explain please, I'm curious
>>7218825
>16 cm shoulders
Are you kidding me? That's cis girl tier.
Come back when you have manly alpha male shoulders like me.
t. 46 cm shoulders
>>7219013
I'm manlet so that's ok with 76 chest
>>7219004
I'm at work so I can't really. But yeah I inda have a girl hips, as far as it's possible for a guy.
Do you guys have examples of guys with non-feminine features trying to pass as girls? Bonus for still attractive.
>>7219046
03:05 here post it already!
>Teenage boy bod pre-transition
>Get relatively juicy ass n tits from hrt
>But have the manly, receding hairline, masculine tough man guy face of a cheesy action movie hero
hahaha I'm gonna kill myself lmao
>>7219054
>still attractive
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>>7219054
some older germanic long-face women look like hons
>>7219062
Kinda jealous of your face if that's true desu lad.
My jaw is so weak and I have shitty facial aesthetics.
>>7219030
36 shoulders is still nothing, I have hips that wide!
>>7217132
>>7219062
I also am part of the my (face or body) is good but the other is bad club.
Seems like you either one or the other, Personally I'd rather have a more feminine body frame then a cute feminine face because at least you can get FFS and stuff to fix your face but if you have a man body you ain't fixing that testosterone poisoning.
The sad thing is I had a very feminine body frame in my teens having a narrow ribcage and wider hips slim waist narrow shoulders etc. It made me self conscious about taking my shirt off as other boys made jokes. Then puberty hit hard and fucked my shit up senpai. There was nothing I could do to stop it at least nothing I knew of so I just learned to deal with it thru drugs, video games etc.