Ghost in the Shell Edition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

you put the subject in the name field

>>7216651
I'd never want to be a cyborg

>>7216656
Pffft, no.

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https://clyp.it/3dkd14e1

please help

>>7216659
I would, I think it'd be so cool. I wanted to go into biology in college and learn how to turn people into half robots

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>>7216666
Your plea for help has been heard and I shall grant you the perfect voice... for a price.

>>7216666
keep practicing, you sound so quiet. learn how to speak slightly louder and it'll sound improve how you sound with normal volume.

and you need to inject more emotion into your inflections. you're pretty monotone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE87fhV2c7U

How do I kill her?

>lie down
>fall asleep
>wake up and feel nauseous

sew

/mtfg/ - come for the chase, stay for having stopped repressing

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What piercings and/or tattoos does everyone have? If none, any tatts or piercings planned for a later point in transition?

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next thread will be hairless cat edition and you know it

Can I pull off wearing a choker and a hair ribbon at the same time?

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Ever wondered what a 10 year old version of yourself would think if they got to meet a version of you from the present? Dear lord would I be disappointed.

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>>7216685
If only I could have undone that day

>>7216692
Hairless cats are so ugly lmao

How do I get a bf?

>>7216699
Avoid any of my advice on that subject

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>>7216691
i have a piercing on my eyebrow and planning to get one on the side of my nose

I'm currently designing a full sleeve tattoo for my left arm, first appointment is on the 26th of january and I will have it done in parts throughout 2017.

>>7216676
i need a new mic really really bad

https://clyp.it/evo5r4ye

>>7216696
When I was a little kid, my idea of a cool person came solely from 90's cartoons and the like. Keep in mind I was born in 1998.

>>7216696
they'd probably think i was an okay guy, but a little weird

>tfw your 10 year old self asks you why you don't have a gf yet

>>7216699
step 1: be cute
step 2: go outside

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Remember when your biggest consern was beating that damn bridge level in crash bandicoot
I miss those days

>>7216696
I've been AGP since reading lesbian porn at 6 and wishing I was a girl so I would probably be amazed I've gotten even this far

>>7216712
>tfw never played crash because my dad never wanted to buy me a play station because i should be studying instead of playing vidya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59BWCEaowC4

>I never notice the tranny in this scene from back to the future

It's at the end

>>7216691
I still haven't even gotten my ears pierced because I'm scared of it being painful ;_;

>>7216696
I would've been so sad to see current me

>>7216705
okay yeah I can hear the background more now

idk then, it sounds mostly like where my voice is so I don't know what kind of additional advice to give from there

>>7216702
why
>>7216711
Working on 1. dunno if I'll ever manage 2.

>>7216705
sounds like girl to me

>>7216721
i only find rapists

>>7216720
getting your ears pierced doesn't even hurt at all. pinch your earlobes as hard as you can right now, and it hurts even less than that because its a sharp needle rather than the blunt force of your fingers.

>>7216718
Aw :c
I was allowed to play 3 days a week

>>7216724
>>7216720

also because it's pretty fast and usually they apply pressure before so the skin is pretty tight there

>>7216724
>>7216731
that's what everyone tells me lol. idk I have a horrible phobia of needles, sometimes at the doctor's office for blood work I faint even before the tourniquet goes on just from the anticipation of there being a needle

guess I should just put on a brave face and find a place to get it done

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>>7216706
I wonder what would have happened if this influenced you for years to come.

>>7216709
;_;

>>7216715
>agp since 6
Isn't that called just being a tranny?

>>7216720
Sameee
I think even a 10 year old would be able to tell that I've made some pretty bad decisions.

Last night was weird
I got my ears pierced and bought a nice shirt and I was hanging out with some friends and all of the sudden it's 11 and I'm in bed with a guy and a girl and no one's wearing clothes and everyone is covered in claw marks and at like 2:30 my dad texts me to say my brother was escorted home by the police and I should be careful going home so I don't get shot

>>7216723
Rapist? I'd be his property how can property be raped.

>>7216724
> Wasnt scared of FFS at all
> Too scared to get my ears pierced

>>7216741
should not say things like that

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>>7216696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PETk8eBbfN0


>>7216719

>>7216737
10 year old me REALLY expected the whole "I wish I was a girl" thing would go away, I think seeing how I ended up a gross tranny is where the disappointment would come from

>>7216737
Idk I just distinctly remember it starting after I read that stuff and felt hugely envious

and I'm still just taking hormones and living as a guy, I don't mind male pronouns or anything and honestly would stick out like a sore thumb as a girl no matter how I looked

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>day off, gonna pamper myself
>mtfg probably going to tell me because I didn't get this from sephora that its worthless and im worthless trash and sephora sephora sephora

let me enjoy my life just a little please

>>7216751
Have fun ^=^

>>7216751
mtfg obsesses over sephora? they're like the f21 of makeup, absolute garbage tier

>>7216751
brb cloning kayla's key

>>7216751
>kaylas key
:3

>>7216696
I don't think I would have been awfully surprised about anything, least of all the kinky stuff

>>7216747
fem-marty a qt

Is everyone here a good human bean and is wearing a safety pin today?

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is assigned male a real comic, or is it just shitposting on a level higher than i can comprehend

>>7216751
Im confused do you want us to bully you or what

also
>playing weird passive aggressive mind games with people

clearly trutrans

>>7216759
good luck, my ignition is so worn out I can use any chevy key from the 90s to start my truck

>>7216757
>mtfg obsesses over sephora?
to the point they will rip your throat out if god forbid you didn't fucking worship the shithole

>>7216753
i'll try, I think the foot bath with lavender salt will be the most comfy

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>>7216748
I think that may be literally the only thing that I'd be potentially happy with but yeah iktf, I really thought it would go away too. I'd probably just think it was super fucking gay.

>>7216749
Oh ok
Nvm then

>>7216757
It's like one of two places to buy makeup that isn't drug store brands what are you on about?

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>>7216696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_GzKCGCDsI

>mfw talking to my younger self
>"you're screwed kid, have fun fighting the hydra of dysphoria"

>>7216744
we just have a different taste in men

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Morning girls, I just woke up

>>7216767
subconsciously I would be VERY happy but I think outwardly I'd be pretty repulsed. I ""pass"" to adults but I never know with kids, they're really perceptive

>>7216769
>hydra of dysphoria
that's honestly a really good analogy. every time I thought I'd beaten it growing up it came back twice as bad

>>7216772
>waking up

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>>7216772
basic wtf

>>7216772
>waking up at 4:30pm

basic, are you sick

>>7216775
cant wake up

>>7216767
>drug store brands
stop being such a makeup hipster, liking obscure shit wont make you more "secretly cool"

>>7216765
>playing weird passive aggressive mind games with people
that's just how I always am, its funny though because like I have had male relatives say it makes sense why I always acted like a bitchy woman

>>7216696
I'd probably have to console my younger self and try to avoid a few years of sexual abuse

>>7216774
Yeaaah I think that's exactly how it would play out for me too. I really doubt that I pass to kids too for the same reason.

>>7216779
Literally all the stuff I've ever gotten at drug stores has been garbage, especially foundations. I just buy what works.

>>7216781
;___;

i wanna die

>>7216784
:(

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>>7216774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EYVepDBAC0


>mfw I have to phone them tommroow
>mfw I have failed in my quest to be normal
>mfw if I repress again so either end up dead or a hon at 50

>>7216696
>Ever wondered what a 10 year old version of yourself would think if they got to meet a version of you from the present?
>present me
"so this is me"
>10 year old me
"so all I have to do is scream I wanna be a girl and they will give me this stuff that will make me actually turn into one instead of look like you?"
>present me
"yes but scream like fuck and hurt yourself even, mom will give in right away at your age, just tell her that childrens hospital los angeles just started a trans youth ward and you will never be a boy again"
>10 year old me
"MOM MOM I WANNA BE A GIRL THERE I SAID IT NO MORE HIDING I WANNA BE A GIRL PLEASE I WANT TO DIE IF I CAN'T BE A GIRL PLEASE LET ME BE A GIRL"

>>7216784
Me too

>>7216776
What? ;~;

>>7216777
No I'm just hungover, didn't get home til about 6 last night

>>7216775
Can't wake up

>>7216788
>tfw you remember your dad taking you to watch this movie together
>now you have to tell him that you want to be a girl

fugg

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>>7216789
No please. The time travel trope breaks my heart

So many regrets

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>>7216751
how can you afford that with your rent doubling but not electro ?

>>7216772
But im a boy
Also how drunk did you get last night?

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>>7216783
>especially foundations
so then precious special vagina haver, what foundation does your highness use?

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>>7216791
>No I'm just hungover, didn't get home til about 6 last night
Care to give us the scuttlebutt on what happened with those cute boys last night?

Does your fiancée know what went down?

>>7216696
>Ewww you look like a faggot
Shut the fuck up. You don't know anything you stupid kid

Do I have to be careful about washing my hair since I just got my ears pierced or do I just clean the piercings after I shower

>>7216798
I politely declined them all, and they politely left.
Oh yeah I told her straight away, we were laughing about it.

>>7216783
yeah. but then again kids usually have no filter so if they're not telling you to your face that you don't pass, then they probably don't think anything ill of it

>>7216788
normalcy is not an option for you anyway anon, you're on 4chan.

also hercules was one of my favorites, I'm getting so nostalgic now ;_; and it's not on netflix so idk what I'm going to do

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>>7216791
did your gig go well at least?

your sleep schedule is going to be messed up, good luck going to work tommorow in the morning.

>>7216706
Underage detected- Oh wait I'm old...
Fuck I still can't believe that people born after 2000 exist and they aren't even babies anymore...

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hi

>>7216799
>Ewww you look like a faggot
hmm... so many of you weren't dysphoric as kids... makes me think some of y'all ain't trans

hate me for saying it, just being honest

>>7216794
treating myself, cheaper than electro

>>7216809
>Fuck I still can't believe that people born after 2000 exist and they aren't even babies anymore...

>>7216810
lauren, why is that dog making that funny face

>>7216804
>since I just got my ears pierced
congratulations! when did you get it done? I wouldn't worry about anything but the way you sleep on them and DO NOT take them out AT ALL for like a month even if you want to. Also use the salt soak they sent you home with.

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>>7216809
>people in their mid-20s are now born in the 1990s instead of the 1980s
>you are one of those people

>>7216811
I think I was repressing and badly influenced by others not forming my own opinions, but yeah I'm wondering too if maybe I'm not really trans

>>7216811
lol

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>>7216796
I used to use clinique but their quality dropped considerably. I use makeup forever these days, ultra HD liquid foundation and profinish powder.
If it counts for anything my concealer is a drug store concealer, Revlon makes a good solid stick one that works pretty well when blended with a sponge.

>>7216807
Yeah
Idk maybe I don't pass but they can at least pick up on me being a girl.

>>7216799
Same

>>7216806
That was very decent of you. Those straight males dodged a bullet because of your loyalty.

>>7216788
ok but for real can we have a mtfg sing-along? or is everyone too dysphoric about their voices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK7XwLbd-oI

>>7216822
I want to punch my past self

>>7216811
I can remember being asked by a classmate if I wanted to be a girl, and knowing that I wasn't supposed to say girl, so I said boy
I guess I can't really say I had dysphoria though

>>7216822
>ultra HD liquid foundation
>$50 fucking bucks a tube
Well now I know for a fact you are just a Stacy trying to pass yourself off as chill.

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>>7216792
Oh god why

>>7216811
or you know, self hate that started young
but I unironically am probably not really trans so idk

>>7216808
Really good! It was probably the best gig we've played with that band yet. Like I really hate singing but the times when I forget about it were fantastic.
I'm sure I'll be OK for work, I should be able to sleep ok tonight.

>>7216823
I was in boymode so them boys weren't straight

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>>7216811
Does that mean I can leave
I mean I wanted to be a girl. But clearly the fact I didn't try to kill myself over it proves I am not trans

I was just a little sad as a kid because I wanted I be a girl. BIG DEAL

IM FREE

>>7216838
>I was in boymode so them boys weren't straight

sure lol

>>7216830
Well I can vividly remember conversations with my friend when we were around 12-13 years old and looking back its embarassing as fuck but I would almost daily say "hey dude wouldn't it be cool if I was a girl, like we could still jump bikes and shoot crows but only difference is I would be a girl, id be cool right?" he would never answer back when I said that, I stopped saying that after he called me a bitch for putting water balloons under my shirt.

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>>7216838
>I was in boymode
You don't even have a boymode anymore

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Wait, Ankathie Koi is cis?
fuck maybe I CAN pass as a germanic woman...

I am writing this to denounce my involvement with the MTF community.

To tell you a little bit about myself, I am 18 years old and have been on HRT for 3 months. Before starting my transition, I was begrudgingly blending in a society that loved me and accepted me for who I was, but alas I was never happy with the treatments and expectations I received as a boy.

Once in a while, I would talk to other trans girls in various MTF communities because it was the only line of communication with people out there, well, like me. In almost all of these instances, I would become a shoulder to lean on for those who were feeling suicidal, much like I did last night. Don't believe me? If you're a mod or a janitor reading this, check the IP addresses on some of the replies to those who needed help. I've been there folks, I'm a human being who lives and breathes on this earth.

A couple of days ago, I was in a discord room catering to trans people in /mtfg/ and noticed I did not receive a warm welcome. I didn't exactly understand the issue, but I told them I didn't want to transfer any thread-related drama. Well, I suggested to them if anyone had a problem that they could send me a private message to minimize the exposure of any potential drama and for us to squash it, but they seemed to want to bully me nevertheless. It was suggested they do a tally on whether or not I should be banned from the room, as if I'm merely a novelty item for someone to kick off an island in the typical fashion a popular TV show might. The only private message I received was from someone whom I have never spoken to in any of these threads, with the glaring message "Kill yourself, now". This one hurt, not only because I am in fact suicidal, but because of the support I provided to people in trans communities. This is why the MTF community will continue to be ridiculed. We are like crabs in a bucket.

As of this moment, I will no longer help those of you in need of assistance.

Good bye.

>>7216838
>I was in boymode so them boys weren't straight
I was in boymode with some friends from pre-hrt who I haven't seen for like a year, and one of them got drunk and started hitting on me. he did used to be straight so idk what happened to him

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>>7216832
Your foundation is literally the thing you should be splurging on. You can spend however much you want on your other makeup but if you're cheaping out on your foundation you're decreasing the overall quality of all the makeup you apply on top of it.

Makeup is expensive, go for quality over quantity.

>>7216827
Yeaaah I kinda want to too, past me was a real shit.

>>7216848
come back ;_;

>>7216842
>>7216845
I was using boy name, boy voice and singing as a boy in an all male band tho
Everyone who came up to me had seen us play

>>7216844
>"haha imagine if you were turned into a girl that would be funny what would you do"
>"dude stop fucking asking me this. Do you want to be a girl or something?
>"n-no I'm just being random"

Actual conversation...

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>>7216811
so you waste money and then complain about not having money for electro....

>>7216856
i want to be a girl

>i have to live as a stubbly disgusting mess in a skirt before i can have hormones
no wonder trans people tend to kill themselves

>>7216848
Everytime I read something from you its pure drama.

>>7216856
this

every time I had conversations like that with one of my girl friends in middle school she kept telling me "trust me, you don't want to be a girl. vaginas are the worst". but I still talked about it anyway

>>7216860
>actually reading sarah's posts

>>7216827
Young Spartan would be so stubborn he would still refuse

Knowing myself I would deny it. Cry and run away

>>7216856
Yeah I said the same shit too. I swear so many of our stories are identical, its why I can relate to so many of you on a DEEP level.

>>7216850
well I mean I don't really wear makeup yet so I'm just saying $50 is a lot of clams to drop on face paint

>>7216848
tldr

>>7216841
You probably shouldn't base your future on the rantings of someone who took so many wrong turns and still refuses to live as a girl.

>>7216849
What did you do?....

>>7216859
fuck RLE

>>7216857
meh, it was only like $70 bucks in stuff, I mean I have a job so its not like i'm totally flat broke

>>7216877
mostly nothing, just kinda laughed and turned him down and then by morning when we sobered up things were back to normal

I regret not pursuing

>>7216872
>game at school
>boys vs girls
>if girls catch you, you are "turned into a. Girl" and have to help them

>get jealous of the girl who got to wear a shiny pink fluffy jacket to school
>jealous when the girls got to play dress up

I still feel shame thinking that

>>7216873
But I REALLLY REALLY REALLY WANT A get out clause...

>>7216878
70 bucks less towards transitioning
no wonder you life is like your lineage
a circle

>>7216883
Why is there this inbred rumor? All my family members are from different continents.

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Hey MTFG.

>>7216817
Yesterday
My therapist keeps pushing me to actually work on transitioning so a friend kidnapped me yesterday and I bought a nice comfy shirt with an owl on it and some earrings
I want to go to Hiddenite and see if I can find some nice earrings because it's my favorite gemstone

>>7216872
this one is probably a little weird, but in middle school we were doing jumping jacks in gym class and I noticed I was in-sync with the girl ahead of me and I pictured myself turning into a girl (I almost forgot this even happened)

also weirdly obsessed with cartoon episodes where a boy was turned into a girl

so many signs...

>>7216880
Maybe you should hang out with him one on one then?

>>7216896
>also weirdly obsessed with cartoon episodes where a boy was turned into a girl
damn same
i've heard this one so much lmao

>>7216896
>also weirdly obsessed with cartoon episodes where a boy was turned into a girl

ARE YOU ME?

I badly wanted KND operation future to be real

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>>7216872
Trust me on this much kayla: some makeup is definitely overpriced, but generally you actually do get what you pay for.

I probably overspend on my makeup a little but I only have a few things that I wear, plus I really don't have the time to find slightly cheaper makeup that works as well, I rely on word of mouth.

Also, I spend way too much on my shampoo. I should probably shut up because I'm not helping my case against being a Stacy.

>>7216764
>that tranny logic

No wonder yall are failing to gain public approval. Even gays hate you guys.

>>7216898
I kinda want to but it might've been a drunk only thing for him...

we'll see, isn't the rule that guys will wait 3 days before calling?

>>7216888
idk maybe your role in deliverance brought it up ?
so you aren't inbred ?

>>7216848
i understand how you feel. the people in these threads are not sane and i feel like you have been mistreated. it's a kind gesture of you to help anyone on here and i hope you continue to do that to make a difference.

:)

>>7216906
Wait when did this happen???

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R8MFD8dszI

>tfw i have to phone the gender clinic tommroow
>tfw my life as a normal person is over

>>7216911
friday night !

He actually lives so far away tho, idk if it'll happen. I kinda really badly want to cuddle him though

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>>7216896
>also weirdly obsessed with cartoon episodes where a boy was turned into a girl
duh

>>7216904
whatever Stacy, go get your roots touched up or somethin

>>7216696
10 year old me would just be happy I'm not fat and probably think I'm kind of pretty for a guy. He'd probably be glad I didn't turn into Buff McMacho but disappointed I still have a speech impediment and my life is in shambles.

If he didn't just meet me but got to know I was trans (because I don't present female) he would probably be terrified and ironically repress as long as I did but because his future self scared him of the inevitable.

>>7216917
that fucking episode omg

>>7216913
>my life as a normal person is over
i'm sure you were already an oddity

Are bellybutton piercings trutrans???

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>tfw everyone is rioting about trump, saying LGBTQ people are fucked in a fit of rage
>tfw I actually believe trump is going to treat me like an american

>>7216905
I'm trans, and I find assigned male pretty disgusting.

>>7216913
>normal person
if you have to phone the gender clinic, you were never a normal person

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>>7216920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R8MFD8dszI

Kill me

>>7216913
It can get better. Be strong.

>>7216917
u think a repressed tran wrote that episode?

>haha what if timmy turned into a girl and he felt comfortable in his skin guys

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>>7216922
BUT

IF if don't phone them. This never happened and it all goes away.
See. Under the rug. Nice and neat

>>7216916
Omg that's so cute

I think you should at least stay in contact with him, and see where it goes. Maybe you can invite him back in a few weeks?

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>>7216917
>tfw applying 30 dollar eye makeup primer and 25 dollar eyeliner as I'm replying to this

>>7216918
It's depressing to think that repression feels inevitable anyways

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>>7216929
>See. Under the rug. Nice and neat
lol

>>7216931
I want to keep better in contact with these friends, so I hope I can! We do have a lot of shared hobbies and interests so I bet he'll have fun if I invite him over

also btw unrelated but given that you're LITERALLY basic, how basic do you think bean boots are on a scale of 0 to you

>>7216935
>>tfw applying 30 dollar eye makeup primer and 25 dollar eyeliner as I'm replying to this

You can paint a pig, but it's still a pig.

>>7216922
>I'm trans, and I find assigned male pretty disgusting.

There you have it, another cleverly disguised rapist who only finds "women with dicks" attractive who by the way went the lengths to alter himself in order to be socially accepted by the trans community.

>>7216942
I'd also spend that much on makeup if I could afford it.

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>>7216937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz9ZMD9KFNg


>"a true super Sayian would not have fallen, maybe I'm not who I think I am..."

>>7216946
she means the comic called "assigned male" rofl

>>7216921
>Are bellybutton piercings trutrans???

If you want to get your belly button pierced, go for it since nobody is stopping you. If you think getting your belly button pierced will make you any more feminine than you could be which by the way doesn't look too promising judging by your awfully horse-like attributes on your face, don't bother.

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>>7216942
I'm really more of a horse desu

my order from inhouse shipped on the 4th of the month to the US
I really really hope it comes this week!!

>>7216950
>I'd also spend that much on makeup if I could afford it.
Expensive makeup don't mean shit if you look like shit to begin with. I don't pass right now so I won't bother wasting my money on them. The only times expensive designer makeup makes a difference are if the person who is wearing them is actually attractive. Ever seen an ugly fat fuck who looks like they would be even uglier without makeup? Yeah, too many of those things out there and even worse if they are clockable trans. Don't ruin the trans outlook for everyone else.

>>7216958
lol you don't know what a difference makeup makes.

>>7216935
>It's depressing to think that repression feels inevitable anyways
Well, I mean, there's two ways to this. Either you repressed for YEARS or as soon as you could talk you corrected everyone and said you were a girl and said "fuck you assholes, I know I'm a girl" and continued to girl as best as you could despite the people in your life, at least so far as being a "nancyboy" who gets his shit kicked in on a daily basis.

Or maybe expecting that level of certainty and non-conformity from a developing child's mind is asking way, way too much. And the latter just had really surprisingly cool parents.

>>7216939
Awh well look worst case scenario you get to be closer friends with them!
And best case scenario a bf/boy to cuddle

I had no idea those existed but I love them and am gonna buy a pair.
So me/10 I guess

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>>7216958
I dunno, Anon, I was a coworker with a fat, ugly girl who was fucking spot on with make up and she went from like a 3 to a 6.

>>7216965
hanna, why do swedish people think this is okay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk__h4oMmB4

>>7216961
>lol you don't know what a difference makeup makes.

I actually do. I've been practicing makeup since I was a little kid. I grew up in a household whose both parents worked around the clock with an extrovert sister who was almost never home.

5'1 anon from the other day [spoiler] or maybe it was last week idfk [/spoiler]

anyway, I weigh 120 right now which I'm not really comfortable with but have been losing weight quickly - do I get on HRT asap or get down below 110 first? it should only take a month or two

>>7216967
that sounds like danish desu

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>>7216958
Why does other people buying expensive makeup bother you this much? Idgi

>>7216962
Idk I think basically every child that had a sense of gender roles before they could self describe ends up repressing. I'd say the ones that say they're a girl from day 1 are the lucky ones but they probably have a very difficult path just in a different way.

>>7216963
hoping for best case scenario :)
>tfw invite him over and we watch netflix and chill (but like literally netflix and chill with no sex)

>I had no idea those existed
jeez where do you live? all the girls around here wear them, since they're waterproof it's great for slushy winters

also since I'm bothering you and you're some kind of pro, where did you find basic makeup guidance? I kinda wanna step up my game now instead of just liner/mascara but I don't even know where to begin. Did you have like a reference that explained brands and tools and stuff to start out with

>>7216970
wtf spoiler tags newfag here sorry

>>7216968
Then you either suck at makeup or your pessimism is distorting your perception. Makeup can hugely change the looks of people.

>>7216946
I don't associate with the comic because I'm conservative. I think it actually does a lot of work in dehumanizing transgirls by accentuating the divide between cis and trans. There's no reason for it, and it makes me really uncomfortable.
If you're going to be like that, maybe you should re-think your life a little.

>>7216951
It's fate. Don't resist it too hard.

>people like faye, elanna, basic, pleb, angie, and the rest fake self deprecate here just because they like to rub it in how perfect their transitions went
I really need to stop coming here because that's the reason no one likes me, this really is a passers only zone and the claiming to not pass is just a " oh we're pretty people goofing" meme when for me its a crippling reality of swirling torment and pain.

fuck, I'm back to hoping all of you get in horrid car accidents or get acid thrown on you. I would sell my soul just for a glimmer of hope that your lives have

>>7216970
I think the general consensus is always just fucking start if weight is your only concern. Especially if it's only like 10 pounds and not like 200 where your health could become a concern.

Question: even if it took twice as long or THREE times as long to lose those last 10 pounds once on hrt, would you care? Your first month of hrt will be a better use of your time.

>>7216972
>but they probably have a very difficult path just in a different way.

Not necessarily. If their parents aren't ignorant pieces of shit, being trans will be a rare and minor inconvenience for them.

>>7216970
HRT doesn't *instantly* reduce your bmr, you can still lose weight while on it without it being harder.

>>7216981
This from the person who by her own account gets gendered female in boymode all of the time

>>7216965
Do you know this woman from Sweden? I love her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETCnS4Lj9Y4

>>7216966
You overanalyzed the situation and misaligned the focus on her femininity by equating it to makeup. That's what trans people tend to do it seems.

>>7216972
Because it bothers me to observe people who waste their money on things that doesn't really make a difference. Just like how people lined up for iphone 7, when it's almost exactly the same phone as iphone 6 which they already own.

>>7216981
I haven't been here too long but I like you kayla, although you say some weird/bad stuff sometimes desu
I saw old pictures of you the other day and it looks like you've come really far

>>7216992
But she personally says that the makeup does make a difference for her. Why are you mad at her for that?

>>7216976
I don't suck at makeup and I'm not pessimistic. I am a boy who is transitioning into a girl, I can't be pessimistic by my own nature or it'll defeat the purpose.

>>7216992
>Because it bothers me to observe people who waste their money on things that doesn't really make a difference.
My friends all say this because I buy organic lol

>>7216992
>You overanalyzed the situation and misaligned the focus on her femininity by equating it to makeup. That's what trans people tend to do it seems.
So you're saying I thought she looked prettier *because* she was wearing makeup and she didn't actually look better?
That's interesting. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder and based on what our culture perceives as beautiful, right? So, by a cultural standard, because she was putting so much effort into her appearance, I would like to make the argument she *was* prettier. It wasn't caked up. It was a "oh, look at her" kind of situation.

>>7216992
never heard of her

>>7216848
bye please never come back

you never helped anyone anyway and you're a victim-playing crazy

>>7216992
>all swedish people know each other

racist

>>7216995
I'm not mad about anything anymore. It's just cringey when trans girls waste their hard earned money on dumb things by getting suckered into a marketing perception. It doesn't make a difference for them, they thinks it did because they spent the money on it. It sucks because trans girls need money for other things you know?

>>7216994
>Another person who likes Kayla despite her self-torment and verbal attacks

One of us! One of us!

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>>7216992
Expensive makeup is generally easier to work with and get decent results with. It's not like you can't get good results with cheap makeup but you do have to know what you're doing and shop around a little.

Besides, it's my money, and I like spending money on nice things here and there. This shouldn't bother you as much as it is.

>>7216984
Depends really, if they luck out with parents then yeah but not all parents are accepting.

>>7217007
>but not all parents are accepting.

What could have been... :(

>>7216954
ok
>>7216981
kayla, other people have emotions.

>>7217012
you should get one and then show it to us (as promised)

>>7216848
>To tell you a little bit about myself
tldr

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>>7216979
>it's fate

I DONT LIKE IT

>>7216999
Organic by legality doesn't mean anything. Organic products can be polluted with gasoline and still be lawfully labeled organic because organic doesn't have to be 100% green and pure.

>>7217000
>So you're saying I thought she looked prettier *because* she was wearing makeup and she didn't actually look better?
Yes

>>7217007
Don't be bothered by my opinion then. I just hate to see a trans girl who generally could use more money due to reasons I don't want to get into, waste it.

>>7217011
my parents act supportive
but i can tell they really are just kinda weirded out by me

>>7216973
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh that's adorable
I have no idea how I've never seen them. They're just not poplar over here really. Which is strange because it's wet all the time.

Oh God I'm not a pro at all. Basically I learned almost everything from makeup addiction on reddit. They have like a master list of tutorials and bunches of thing son brands and products etc.

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I can't do this...

>>7217039
:3
maybe they're just an american thing, idk

and okay, that's the place I've been looking at, I just wasn't sure if you knew of anything better. (I think you are a pro because I like your makeup looks usually so don't get down on yourself!)

>>7217045
hugg anon

>>7217045
Dont call them and order some hormones online and try them out for a bit, see how they make you feel before you get anybody else involved

>>7217036
What could I use more money for?
I have enough to sock away at the end of the day, I have investments and I don't have transition expenses. At the end of the day I like having a few luxuries on top of a relatively simple lifestyle.

That said, I can see why someone would look at my makeup routine and get the wrong impression of what's really necessary, but I do honestly think that a nice foundation is basically the only thing someone need spend a lot of money on.

>>7217039
i wish i wasnt so autistic so i could learn makeup

So I'm giving up on music. I don't wanna be a starving artist on top of being a tranny. What should I major in now?

>>7217022
i dunt like et

>>7217062
Is that why you work as a cashier at a grocery store?

>>7217074
>I don't want to be a starving artist
>so I'm giving up on music
So you have to go all in and can't just have it as a hardcore hobby you spend all your free time doing why you work a job that doesn't make you want to kill yourself?

>>7217067
It's not that hard :/ There are plenty of tutorials on the internet and you can figure out which things you want step by step. The first results will be messy, especially concerning mascara and eyeliner, but practice makes perfect.

>>7217062
I don't know what you could use more money for, how about life?

How do you not have any transition expenses?

>>7217077
maybe she meant just giving it up as a major

>>7217080
yea i really only wear foundation and concealer atm

http://www.strawpoll.me/11640995

Look at the patterns, can you see what's wrong? It's supposed to be perfect but, really its not. Can you find the flaws? Hidden in structured code? Hiding in patterns, inbetween the rows. Only illogics can find, hidden flaws in a straight logic line. Only erratics recognize errors in patterns of a perfect design.

>>7216983
I don't think I'd care.

>>7217062
>What could I use more money for?
stuff and things, etc

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Question. Did PotC die? Don't get me wrong, I'm really glad she is gone, but she kinda just disappeared out of nowhere at one point never to be seen again.

>>7217077
i just feel really hopeless right now... I just dont think that jazz is something that matters to anyone, and pretty much all of the paying gigs are cover bands, and I'm pretty sure I don't wanna make a living playing the hits of the 80's and 90's for the rest of my life

>>7216848
I have only ever seen you being a pure cunt

>>7217096
She was here this week.

>>7217085
You know after you get the major stuff out of the way the only transition expense is estrogen right?

>>7217096
Nah, doubt it. She tried to kill herself with a fork once, didn't work.

>>7217091
Far out

w-will I ever be considered trutrans if I like NFL football..?
I promise I like boys...

>>7217092
Which means you've found your answer and shouldn't wait before the weight is gone. Are you like on the verge of obtaining the pills? Do you have hrt on hand right now and have been waiting to start? Because I found my situation kind of ideal and it still took me 2 months from seeing a therapist to getting my tranny pills.

>>7217089
Then you've already found the most difficult things to buy lol
With other products you can find out whatever works for you instead of matching it exactly to your skin tone. Have you bought other products yet? Do you have a decent mirror?

>>7217096
She comes and goes as he pleases. I'm not misgendering her, she has a multiple personality disorder.

>>7217105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opdlIa4EX50

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>go to kitchen to get something to eat
>female roommate who's also there randomly says "you smell good Spartan"
>masculinity validated, don't know if I am happy or sad with that

Clearly it must be my alpha male pheromones. No tranny would ever be able to have such an ability.

As I suspected. Too much time on 4chan has warped my mind.

I am a man.

>>7217115
Boys don't smell good
Boys smell yucky
She's calling you a fag

>>7217111
i have mascara ans an eyebrow pen

>>7217115
Get rid of your T. It's making you sad.

>>7217109
I don't have anything on me, I haven't even gone to see anyone about it and haven't told anyone.

>>7217100
Did you get SRS and FFS done?

>>7217121
Can confirm, that background sadness I always had basically went away after just starting spiro

>>7217118
But when a girl validates my masculinity it feels like a knife coated with sugar

It hurts and feels good at the same time

>>7217121
But girls like me. That means repression worked. They can sense my masculinity.

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>>7217100
>>7217101
>>7217112
>she's still around
Er.. noted...

>>7217129
>But girls like me. That means repression worked. They can sense my masculinity.
I dunno, a lesbian relationship sounds more fun.

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>tfw you still look like a man and 4chan is still a hugbox

>>7217135
Not possible

Chad can't become stacy

>>7217120
Consider getting powder matched for your foundation. It'll make your makeup look more even and stay on longer. Apply it with a brush.
If you don't have a makeup mirror, consider getting one. It's best to have one with two different sides with different magnification for detailed work, like mascara, eyeliner, and so on. Makeup mirrors aren't very expensive. It's also best if you can sit down while applying makeup.
Try eyeshadow! I'd recommend starting with nudes, and later try yourself at different shades. I'm not sure I can recommend a technique because a lot of tutorials seem to have differing opinions on what to do.
Have you tried applying your mascara?

>>7217138
hugg pleb

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>>7217138

>tfw slowly letting my room go to shit
>>7217142
ok should i learn how to conture?

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>>7217135
>a lesbian relationship sounds more fun

>>7217124
You got some silly priorities. I understand wanting to lose weight first but I think losing weight is such a passive thing to do. Starting is the important step. What route are you planning on doing?

>>7217147
I haven't tried conturing myself yet. I'm really an amateur who's trying to convey that getting started isn't so easy. But if you want to try conturing, you should do it.

>>7217135
I didn't say the person would become a pretty lesbian.

Has Spartan (am I getting that right?) ever posted a pic of himself? I know he's supposed to be quite buff but that might be all talk.

>>7217150
I have no idea what routes there even are. I assume I can just go talk to a gender therapist and they'll eventually give me titty skittles?

https://www.strawpoll.me/11643545
https://www.strawpoll.me/11643545
https://www.strawpoll.me/11643545

>>7217160
I mean, that's one way.

You're not in some European country with NHS, right?

>>7217153
ok ill buy stuff soon

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>>7217154
These pics make me half sad and half happy sometimes

>>7217164
No, I live in the US.

>>7217164
there's is only one european country that has the NHS

>>7217172
Find an informed consent clinic. Congrats, you live in the only country that prescribes hormones based on 21st century standards.

>>7217143
How'd you only?
>>7217145
>tfw you aren't that high yet today

>>7217172
Options:
>informed consent clinics
>seeing a therapist/gender therapist/psychologist
>just buying the pills online

>>7217176
I didn't know what the accepted shorthand was for "European public healthcare" is. I just know the stereotype that it takes months to see somebody and they fucking love stringing you along with wanting RLE for a year or two first. I had some strange Polish endocrinologist in the US adamant about wanting a year of RLE before he felt "comfortable prescribing hrt" and I knew he wasn't following WPATH standards.

>>7217185
Polish people are bigots.
This is why I'm glad they are being killed in the UK after brexit.

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>>7216981
>perfect transition
Lol
Are you delusional?
I'm transition was ok at best

>>7217182
Know, not only

>>7216981
>pleb
>perfect transition
Literally choose one. I straight up look like a man.

>>7217150
It's better to start HRT thin
>>7217160
In my country (UK) you ask to be referred by your GP, you wait like a year for your first appointment so I'd self med in that time if I were you.

>>7217107
I like Transformers and fighting games

>>7217179
>>7217185
I've found a place to go. Thanks.

>>7217185
There need to be more trans who become tran therapists. It's so obvious that all the laws and guidelines are created by cis people trying to protect a hyper minority of cis people from transitioning.

>>7216981
>One day she boasts about failing boymode
>The next day she is bitter about "being a hon"
Somebody help me understand Kayla?

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>>7217210
Can you blame them though?
Transition is really tough and can't beat a person down pretty hard

>>7217209
Good luck!

>>7217179
>Congrats, you live in the only country that prescribes hormones based on 21st century standards.
In theory. It's entirely up to the doctor. I guess in cities it's easy to find one but my local trans support group's Facebook page has an incomplete list of doctors who have given hrt, is at least trans friendly, and those who "don't want to hear it" in the local area.

There is no informed consent clinic, but there is a clinic that will basically do it with one or two therapy sessions, some blood work, and you signing some printed pages from WPATH that show what you know will happen. Difference is they want you to come back for appointments and things. We kind of got lucky, even if they are kind of incompetent and just doing it for more business (they come off as impatient and kind of grill you for a while to see if any of the changes scare you, maybe that's good).

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>>7217212
Most likely she is having a issue with her dysphoria

>>7217212
nothing to understand, i was perplexed by kayla at first but then i realized there's no point trying to reason with her. She has mental issues i think.

>>7217219
I'd say complex-ptsd.

>>7217213
But the earlier you transition the better the chances of coming out healthy on the other side. Besides, therapists demand that trans people transition without hrt, without even any PROMISE of it, which is arguably the hardest part of the entire transitioning process. It's extremely counter-productive and damaging.
So, yeah I can blame them. I do blame them. I blame them the same way I can blame psychiatrists who performed electro-convulsive therapy for everything, and suggested lobotomies as a standard care of therapy for pretty much everything.
I'm not saying that lobotomies are as damaging as rle, but it is an outdated, oppressive, and dehumanizing course of treatment that needs to be abolished worldwide.

>>7217212
She is insecure and has mood swings and doubts about her future. I think she needs to see the bigger picture of how far she's come and how having good days and bad days means there's hope.

>>7217222
I'm projecting, but I was thinking about bipolar disorder. I can't see I understand ptsd enough to recognize it besides the more obvious war-related ones.

btw, ilu Kayla. And I only talk about you because I care.

>>7217212
idk, i know for me at least, i have some, i mioght be wrong time whenever it like is really fucking like in my face with it, but idk, it just fades after a bit, since i just gotta look at myself once lmao.

>>7217219
It's hard to keep track of a mental case that lies all the time

>>7217237
May as well post the whole thing
How long HRT?
You look European.

>>7217206
>It's better to start HRT thin
Absolutely. But 10 pounds is fucking nothing in the grand scheme of things. Losing that over a few months isn't going to cripple development if it's done right. Starting 100+ pounds overweight, I agree completely.

I kind of live by the motto "just fucking do it and fix it later as you can" though. Like a solution that's 75-80% optimal or most of the way there can be tweaked and fixed as you go, it's all cumulative. You'll never reach a "perfect" state to transition in. The perfect state was in the womb.

>>7217241
>tfw started 50 pounds overweight
Am I fucked? I was too depressed to lose weight pre-HRT so I gave up and decided to lose weight while on it.

>>7217210
The stereotype with trans therapists though is that they're super hons who walk the line about the "typical trans experience and symptoms".

>>7217237
C-Cotton?

>>7217227
Maybe
The kid could not be trans and transition could end up hurting them.
Also not all therapist require trans people to transition before hrt

>>7217247
meh i was overweight too, i wanted to lose weight but decided fuck it, hrt is a priority.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnxIZx-TBjo

>tfw Spartan is back online

IVE MADE MISTAKES AND IVE BEEN HARD HIT
I SAY SO WHAT SO WHAT IF I DID
STARTED OVER
STARTING OVER AGAIN
IM THE CLEAR EYED IM THE COMEBACK KID


"Cmon Cindy, we could sort this out"
THE REAL ME AND THE REAL YOU"

>>7217240
that is the whole picture
it's been... since august a year ago? 16 months?
i'm sadly american
>>7217251
why yes, it is a cotton shirt thanks for noticing

>>7217263
>16 months
So it's official, HRT doesn't work.

>>7217247
You'd be more fucked for not starting. How long would it take you to lose the 50 pounds? Half a year? A year? And in the meantime you would worry and stress about "what if I never reach the weight and start hrt." Have you been cutting back a bit on food to get towards your weight goal since starting?

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>>7217267
Depends on effort and genetics, genetics mostly though

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>>7217263
post a recent one I want to see your progress :3

>>7217252
Confused kids should not jump on hrt

>>7217267
It's not magic

>>7217263
I'm curious what your blood tests say.

>>7217267
i'm a lot better off than i was a year and a half ago
>>7217276
i literally just posted a picture of myself that i took seconds ago
>>7217279
test is still too high, recently got upped to 8mg E/day

>>7217274
Angie's a qt. But you should post the marker one since she did get a bit of work done so it's slightly deceiving without that knowledge.

There's plenty of inspiration in that imgur album.

Angie is in my personal inspiration folder though...

>>7217285
ooooh I misread I thought it was an old pic.

do you use Cypro or Spiro?

>>7217270
Yes
>>7217272
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the woman in this picture
>>7217285
But aren't you upset that you don't pass?

Why is starting HRT skinny better than starting it fat?

>>7217290
spiro
>>7217291
yeah definitely
but it's not going to stop me from just trying to keep moving forward

Hihi Mtfg :D How is everyone

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>>7217278
But they do

>>7217287
Oh you mean this one
Yeah hrt didn't do much for me
Ffs was the thing that helped the most

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>>7217272
my skin isn't nearly as dark as that nor an i that tall. idgi posting unrelated images proves what exactly?

>>7217287
Angie got FFS, she doesn't know our struggles
>>7217292
Because HRT works by fat redistribution. if youg ain weight new fat cells are made in the female spots only, if you lose weight the fat is lost from the male spots only however it doesn't get rid of the male fat cell it's still there but deactivated. tl;dr if you start thin you will never have male fat cells but you will likely still look fine starting from either end of the spectrum.

>>7217285
>>7217291
"16 months hrt" can be misleading to some. My first 4 months of hrt were basically half dosage because neither T or E was in range and most people I came out to basically said the only thing they've noticed is I'm skinnier and have less acne. Now with about 2 months in range I feel like it's starting to become more obvious.

>>7217294
I'm guessing spiro dose is already 200mg?

>>7217292
probably because less fat needs to be distributed around

>>7217300
wow wtf you look really good in that one

>>7217294
if you can try cypro. it was way more effective for me than spiro

>>7217301
> it doesn't get rid of the male fat cell it's still there but deactivated

I don't understand.

>>7217314
It just shrinks,it doesn't disappear
>>7217300
Is anyone on /mtfg/ that dark?

>>7217302
literally no one has said anything to me
and yes, spiro is 200mg
>>7217310
maybe

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14 months hrt. saving up for srs, do I need ffs as well?

>>7217298
Didn't you try to sue your surgeon?

>>7217306
thanks fempai

>>7217316
i think only shakira was

>>7217321
no ur a qt already

>>7217301
>Angie got FFS, she doesn't know our struggles
She does. Because she went through with them. Then she got ffs because she wanted to. Worst case scenario she was a super cute andro boy by the time she got ffs.

>>7217298
Are you willing to remind me what all you did and what you recall it costing? I'm also curious how you went about paying for it. Did you just save or get a cosmetic surgery loan? I know when I was younger ffs seemed too scary but no wit's like "yeah, fucking fix my nose, doc"

>>7217316
What if you go full skinny after HRT and start gaining weight again?

>>7217321

no you look cis

>>7217321
probably want nose job, there's something off about it

otherwise I don't think full ffs looks necessary

When is a good time to get a bra?

>>7217332
when you have tits

>>7217332
when you breasts are big enough