Is there an FtM equivalent of hons? I've tried searching

I'm a 4'11" femboy with an extremely gay sounding voice. I mostly pass but everyone thinks I'm gay and cis women are never attracted to me.

>>7113627
Omg that's so cute. I'm a 5'10" mtf, can I put my gt in ur bp

>>7113723
No because I already have a trans gf who's 5'8 and does that.

>>7113627
gay males do not sound like gay females

you're probably just weird

>>7113627
I asked about people who look disgusting, not about people who look like kids.

I mean, to some degree I expect the answer to be "no, they don't exist, at least not such that they look disgusting because of their trannydom", simply because of the direction the physical differences and social expectations go, but I'd love to verify it properly.

ftms can end up just as bad but nobody want to hurt their feelings so no one says anything

yes, its a fat smelly slob in a stained hoodie, raggedy ass snapback and hobo tier pants and sneakers who thinks "male privilege" means not bathing grooming or making any effort to be put together. They can be found at local bars laughing too loud and slapping people on the back and talking with their mouths full of food went not slobberingly drunk and hitting on anything with a pulse. they have no discernable shape other than squat and round. In general these are failed girls masquerading as trans in order to have an excuse for their hygiene/social acceptance issues or tumblr-tier dykes that drank the trans koolaid, but essentially they never stopped being fat chicks, they just went on T, grew their patchy wispy beards out and dropped any pretense of standards whatsoever.

usually called Aiden or Kayden or Luke

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>>7113965
pics pls

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>>7114472
>pics pls

>>7115460
yuck yuck disgusting its not even wearing j's

>>7115460
im going to start yelling very loudly
more pls

>>7115496

back in a few

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smug little fucker

>>7113608
the closest things are ftms who don't take hormones and just dress like fat lesbians

Yes,

they are called Aydens.

>>7113608
The reason you find "hons" disgusting is because of socialization and internalization of sexist standards. This is the same reason why trans men "pass better", we are more accustomed to scrutinizing the appearance of women than the appearance of men. If you are around trans men enough, its pretty simple to realize that you can clock them at the same rate you can clock trans women, and there are the same number of people that "don't pass on any level". The difference is that while 4chan calls mtfs that don't pass "hons" and "disgusting", they just see the ftms that dont pass as "transtrenders" or "still really cute". This is due to societal bias objectifying physical femininity.

For some reason, I can't feel good about this. The closest thing we have to hons is fat shaming. Not to sound all tumblr, but I'd still want to snuggle several of the guys posted here. Then again, I like fat guys, so why wouldn't I like fat ftms?

>>7113965
this. sometimes they're tiny and scrawny and wear obnoxious bowties and a ton of piercings or something, but the principle is the same.

>>7116115
This desu

>>7113965
They also like to be more vocal about how extremely gay they are than anything else.

>>7115832
dat fucking pose, mane

>>7115851
Not handsome, but still a pass.

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>>7115881
Landwhales of any sex is blobgender. Fatties gonna fat. If you want to pass, at least look human.

>>7113608
i don't know if there are many trans guys who in the current social context fit your definition of 'hon', but you'd be surprised how many trans guys don't actually pass
as it is because trans guys have the same passability trans women had in the 70s (people are only periphally aware ftms exist and aren't looking for us in day to day life) the majority of ftm hons just grow facial hair to pass and it covers up their girlface
an old friend of mine is a detransitioner now and she's written about how even though she started at 17 she needed facial hair to pass, so it's been relatively easy for her to go back to looking female even though her voice is 'gay teen boy'
in the near future fms will become more popular as an alternative and i think everyone will be surprised by how many trans guys are getting it once we lose our temporary passability
also though he is not in the same universe as a hon i would like to volunteer aydian dowling as an ftm who doesn't actually pass to people who know what ftms look like, not too far in the future we'll be looking at him the same way we do 'only passed because it was decades ago' mtfs like candice brown elliott and jennifer diane reitz -- he's 4'11" with pear hips and the voice of a gay preteen, he looks nothing like a woman but everything like a trans man

>>7113723
Hot

>>7117048
yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupp

>>7117098
*peripherally

>>7113965
FUUUCK! I know a tanny dude named Aiden just like that!

Are you a wizard?

>>7115885
what this guy isn't a hon he's handsome

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