Why is it so hard to find a trans woman above 5'7 who actually passes (that is, passes for a cis woman without employing TrannyTricks like Tranny Bangs or Combovers)?
t. 5'11 Adonishon
i'm 5'10 and im told i pass pretty well. all of my measurements are well within female averages.
>>7102245
i've never found them to be incredibly rare
though extreme height by female standards can be just another handicap for many trans women, and reasonably or otherwise (tall cis women are the most likely group to be inaccurately clocked) it can set off alarm bells even in the abscence of other tranny features
>>7102271
*absence
i have fucked up that word enough times lately it's starting to concern me
i'm usually good at spelling
is this a t change
was the cogiati right all along
>>7102271
>tall cis women are the most likely group to be inaccurately clocked
I thought it was black women
>>7102302
tall cis black women especially, i suspect
i guess black cis girls can look very trans to the eyes of people who aren't black in an inverse of the 'asian hons pass to white people' phenomenon (though thai surgeons have referred in the past to their thai patients passing a lot better than their american ones, mostly due to age of transition)
as a white trans guy who clocks other trans guys easily, i've also noticed black ftms are to us as asian mtfs are to you
>>7102320
Now that you think of it tall black women are sometimes called their femaleness into question.
I mean cis women from time to time get misgendered too if they aren't attractive or feminine enough.
I'm 5'4" and can't pass with those tricks
>>7102245
4chan loves to worship Stav Strashko and Andreja Pejic, and they're both very tall.
The secret, I think, is that there are two ways you can be tall: low T (which leads to low E and therefore slow closure of growth plates) and high growth hormone. The first leads to a feminine appearance while the second leads to a masculine appearance. You're screwed if you get the second one.
>>7103727
go kys pleb
>>7103862
That's wrong actually. You can just have a late puberty and grow tall. I didn't hit puberty until a few months before my 15th birthday.
But when I checked my T levels my T was 640 which is above average. I still have a very slender frame, though. (low growth hormone)
You can see I have small hands and skinny wrists
>>7103896
Can u do it for me?
>>7103862
>tfw late puberty + had low T at the time I started HRT
>tfw still ended up with masculine 2D:4D ratio, very wide shoulders, "handsome man" facial features
I think I was screwed hard.
>>7102245
Not impossible, there are cis women with bodies like this.
>>7104012
That is a decidedly cis body. Why would anyone think anything different?
>>7104538
Shoulders widers than hips, lower part of hips
is not wider than the upper part, waist not very narrow. But with all other features into account you're right, they just look like an athletic cis girl.
>tfw 5'6"
really walking the line over here
>>7102245
Related question: why the fuck is it that there are about one thousand 6'5"+ hons in London? Every time I go downtown I see some fucking obvious beanpole sticking up a head above the crowd while trying to look like a woman.
What is it about this town and insanely tall trannies? Some kind of total lack of realism in the water supply?
>>7103862
fact
the irony is that there are early transitioners who fuck themselves up with AAs and lack of estrogen and become super tall
this girl started selfmeding at like 14 and she ended up 6'3"
>>7104674
Height is a meme.
>>7104814
And has a cis face and most likely cis proportions so...
>>7104814
any pics of her full body
>>7104814
estrogen stops your growth, by the way
that's why girls stop growing at 14, it's not the testosterone that closes their growth plates
>>7104985
not really, but shes a big girl
>>7104814
That would probably have happened even if she didn't self-med. The "legit" way they practically never give you estrogen.
>>7105290
>tfw was in the swimming team
>>7105290
Wait are we dividing shoulders by hips or hips by shoulders? Because 0.9 suggests wider hips if you're doing it shoulders/hips.
>>7102245
>TrannyTricks like Tranny Bangs or Combovers
what do those have to do with being tall?
you can have a bad hairline and be short or visa versa
>>7105290
Nope.
>Male SHRs (M = 1.18 ± 0.071, range 1.03–1.40) significantly (t = 10.41, P< .01) exceeded female SHRs (M = 1.03 ± 0.066, range 0.90–1.22)
https://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~uqbziets/Hughes2003%20-%20Shoulder%20to%20hip%20ratio.pdf
>We obtained the following mean and standard deviation (SD) values for Australian women (19–45 years old, McLennan and Podger 1998): height (163.1 +/- 5.2 cm), waist circumference (77.1 +/- 9.6 cm), hip circumference (101.0 +/- 9.3 cm), and shoulder width (43.3 +/- 2.3 cm).
http://beheco.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2009/05/21/beheco.arp051.full.pdf
Additionally,
>Variable ... Measurement of Most Attractive Figure
>...
>Shoulder-to-hip ratio ... 1.135
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19319075
For fun, see
http://ctr.sagepub.com.sci-hub.cc/content/24/2/80.short
although there are no numbered measurements, inspect the body image scans
>>7102245
>tfw 5'10 and hon
>>7106062
I wouldn't be surprised if your own pasted studies actually proved you wrong.
Either way, that's no how you argue.
You should write the parts that are actually valuable.
>>7106149
that's exactly what I did dumbotron
>>7106160
Looking at the top, it does seem like you proved yourself wrong with your dump.
It says womens shoulders are generally wider than their hips.
>>7106533
I think they were saying "nope" to "the average is 0.9 to 0.95" because the average is actually 1.03 according to this.
>>7106533
that's what i meant to say. did i reply to the wrong post?
>>7105316
LOL CIS FEMALES SO MUCH FOR BEING "FEMALE" LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
I LOVE BEING THE MOST GIRLIEST WHILE HAVING A PENIS AND TESTCILES AHHHHHH
idk i'm 5'8 and all my measurements are well within the realm of normal cis female. my hip to shoulder ratio isn't the best in the world, but it's within cis-territory. my cisgendered sister is 2" taller than me and has abt the same hip/shoulder ratio.
>>7105182
for you