/ftmg/ - female to male general

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I don't have a girlfriend.

>>7000773
a highly relatable statement
>>6998069
i didn't jack it pre-t due to dysphoria so this might be impossible with a pre-t clit/'dick', but i'm also really early on t so
>lie down
>spread balls (labia)
>move foreskin (clitoral hood) up and down penis (clitoris)
>>6998591
generic terfery
though i see some legitimacy in generic terfery at times
t. 18 year old ftm, all my offline friends are trendscum, dysphoric butches who don't realize dysphoria isn't the only aspect of sex discordance, and the type of aaps who would be better off as crossdressers
>>7000321
>implying /lgbt/ will get deleted

>>7000799
>dysphoria isn't the only aspect of sex discordance
Wut?

>>7001061
it's just a conjecture of mine right now but it makes sense with what i've learned from four years of knowing i'm trans and hanging out with a lot of people who are or claim to be trans
observations:
1. an increasing number of people who experience what appears to be severe idiopathic sex dysphoria later detransition after realizing it was actually caused by childhood trauma
2. it has been extremely common historically in the lesbian community for butches to experience dysphoria but transition for them tends to fail because of their deeply held lesbian identities
3. it is also historically common for male crossdressers to be in a similar situation (hence why some people believe agps shouldn't transition)

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>>7000700

http://www.strawpoll.me/11354364
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11354364

>>7001490
i'm fairly neutral on the topic but answered no because i wouldn't seek it out

>tfw i'm going blind
>tfw i won't be able to hang with my bros on /ftmg/ anymore
feels bad my dudes, it was a good run though

>>7001848
One poz load to many? Hiv is a hell of a virus.

>>7001848

Does anyone have that cap of a blind anon getting his brother to post a Pepe for him?

>>7001848
use a screen reader and we'll tell you what images we're using if you ask

>>7001401
this is an outrage

>>7001848

what's causing it?

>>7002058
melanoma

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>>7002074
Ha! Here you go white devil!

>>7002074

how's everything looking otherwise?

not to make light of the going blind shit... what i have can cause blindness and i have vision issues from it so it scares the shit out of me on a personal level... just wondering considering it's melanoma...

is it completely inevitable or is there a chance it's avoidable?

btw idk what you're into or not, but with my own vision and health issues i've found playing an instrument is really helpful... if only cuz it's comforting to have shit you can do that won't be negatively impacted large scale from not being able to see... idk... it's a calming thought for me to know i have something like that, thought if you didn't already you might wanna give it a shot

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>>7002074

oh shit son you're going blind?

But you'll miss all my Best Hits Shitposting

>>7002115
i had my right eye removed 2 years ago, now i need my left removed. I suppose it was avoidable if i had caught it earlier, but theres no use dwelling on that now
ive been doing art since i was a kid, and i have an entire comic planned out that I now wont have the chance to draw. drawing is essentially a life line for me and its probably one of the worst things about going blind

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Do ftms hate chasers as much as mtfs? I-I'm asking for a friend.

>>7002176

Holy shit dude, as a fellow artfag I'm so sorry.
Maybe you could switch over to tactile arts like sculpture?

>>7002183
most ftm chasers are mtfs who act like the op pic. see: marshallposter, caraposter (a rare cis male andromimetophile)
if you aren't like that you might be okay i guess

>>7002216
yeah maybe, but it wont really be the same. like, ill never feel the satisfaction of filling up a sketchbook or working really hard on a painting for it to turn out great. even with tactile arts i wont really be able to see my progress
anyway im gonna go to bed now, night bros

>>7002245
marshallposter = StraightWhiteGuy?

>>7002261
marshallposter is the transbian who traditionally avatarposted with pictures of some trendscum from tumblr, but now uses pictures of eggs on toast instead
she's around 30 years old, lives in yurop, has a fetish for teenagers, and thinks ftms should be banned from taking t because it makes it harder for her to jerk off to us

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>>7001490
>love hummus
>unsure of both gender idenity and orientation
How do i proclaim my love for hummus

>>7002278
>but now uses pictures of eggs on toast instead

>>7002176

shit that's fucked... didn't realize you were going through surgery for it, thought maybe it was just slowly happening...

that's really fucked though... the art thing i mean... i know what it's like to have something like that as a lifeline, and that's just...

that's why i recommended music, but it's not necessarily a substitute for something that's so important to you... it does help a lot though to have something else to push yourself into

what was your comic gonna be about? do you have any drawings from it? have you ever considered getting as much of the character design and whatnot finished and then having someone else make it happen? like get an artist to work with so you can still create it? it's not the same as drawing it yourself, but if you can co-create and still make it happen on some level you might not feel like it's gone to waste entirely... i know it sounds like a poor substitute, but everything will...

you know... before i got sick i used to be really into doing shit like hiking, working out, running, going on walks that lasted nearly all day etc ... that was a huge part of my life, and crazy important to me...and i went from that every day to having days where i have to sit to brush my teeth cuz i don't have the energy to stand

and if someone told me that this was just gonna be my life... when it first started, or before it did... while i was that active... i probably would've felt like there wasn't anything else and wouldn't be... but in some ways it just gave me an opporunity to try new things and revisit old things, and create new lifelines... there's always missing shit and nostalgia, that doesn't go away, but new things can become equally important even if you never would've believed they would... i played guitar on/off since i was 13, but mostly off and i wouldn't have said i cared deeply about it... being sick changed that completely and it's become a lifeline... you'll find something

>>7002287
yeah, marshallposter's a bit of a character like that
do your best to ignore her when she pops up

would it be a safe assumption to make that you're on the newer side of things? uncertainty regarding one's gender is a natural state of mind, don't worry too much about it. what experiences are you having that lead you to /ftmg/?

I don't think I have cavities after all. My pain went away completely.

What do you guys know about makeup? I personally don't get it at all. I understand that people enjoy the look but I never understood woman's obsession with makeup. I never wore any pre-transition and post-transition the most I've done is lipstick and nail polish. I've tried eyeliner but I can't figure out how to actually apply it. With my dark skin tone I doubt much popular makeup like blush would do much anyway.

>>7001197

Why would they delete this board of all boards? Delete some of the more useless ones.

>>6999596

Jesuina is something I have never heard and I'm latino. Most parents would name their daughter Mary or Maria if they wanted something Christian.

>>7001848

This probably sounds ableist, but going blind is probably worse than going deaf. It seems easier to function with going deaf. One of my favorite family members is going blind due to diabetes and it seems awful. She was always the one of the most studious and Independent people in my family and now she needs help all the time and had to quit her job. I'd hate going deaf too though - I love music so much - but it seems a lot 'easier' and there's a lot of deaf people out there who like being deaf.

>>7002183

I do. They're pretty annoying with their c-boy fetishes. I don't even like sex, nevermind vaginal. I wouldn't bottom anyway.

>>7002384
doesn't sound ableist to me
not like genuine ableism, anyway
tumblr ableism, yeah, but tumblr has fucked the meaning of ableism to death even worse than it has the meaning of trans
t. actual disability rights advocate

but yeah, Deaf people have quite the community, and those with any residual hearing at all can usually at least detect heavy basslines

>>7002370

jesuina was an albino black girl, not hispanic... and yeah it is a weird name, even weirder is she was named after her mother who was named after her grandmother... no idea how far back people in her family were like "guess i'll give my daughter my weird fucked up name"

yarixalez was hispanic though...

but what i meant by that is sometimes people have weird as shit names, and people who meet them mostly are just gonna think "weird name" and move on not dwelling on it... that chick didn't mention christian names though, it was some guy before that...

but yeah nearly all hispanic chicks are named shit like maria... most people have normal names

my name's normal, i don't care for it and i didn't pick it... it just stuck, and well... that's how names usually go so it's whatever...

>>7002415

You sure she isn't biracial or a black latino? That sure as hell sounds like a Spanish, Fillipino, or Portuguese name. I never meet non-latinos with names like "Jesus". For some reason European-Americans consider it borderline heresy to name your kid after Jesus.

>>7002384

it really depends on you... deaf people do have a lot of advantages as far as deaf culture and shit goes yeah... but it depends on what's important to you

i'd rather be blind than deaf personally... i can't be independent and function like a human anyway, and music is pretty much what i've got at this point... but i sing, i play, and i write shit... it's also a way for me to connect with people... my vision is fucked anyway so i'd be trading something that works well for something that's kinda shitty to begin

i would've picked being deaf over being blind a few years ago though... but shit changes

>>7002423

i knew her family... so yeah i'm sure... her family was black and she was albino...

>>7002456

+ and her last name was scottish

>>7002464

Meh then. I'm half-black and my given name is Scottish. A lot of people use random names with no thought to ethnic background. As long as you're not black and naming your kid a Chinese name, it doesn't matter to most.

>>7002473

yeah people don't seem to actually give a shit about that unless they're purposely keeping with a traditional name...

>>7000700
is this made by the same person who drew the Handsome Husband comic?

>>7002966
yes, evelyn poor of trans girl diaries
the webcomic fell off the internet about a year ago but there are plenty of archives

>>>/an/2233340

>>7003044

Yes, that is a bird.

I used the image from the last ftm thread. Hope the anon didn't mind, it just looked cute and I was too lazy to find a bird image.

>>7003050

so you took a pic of my bird to start a thread about how most bird owners seem to be women?

>>7003044

didn't even see it... haven't looked on /an/ in a long time...

>>7000700
even when you pretend to be men you still pretend to be victims
you will never be a real man until you drop all that faggotry

>>7003099

Did you even read the first line? It's about stereotypes. The example just happened to be gender related. I own budgies and overall most bird people seem to be women, just like stereotypically cat people are women or dog people are men.

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Is having pet spiders tryhard macho?

>>7003323

No

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>>7003330
How about pangolins?

>>7003339
i feel like those wouldn't be legal to have as pets pretty much anywhere

>>7003276
>dog people are men

interesting

all the most enthusiastic dog owners i've known were like minimum seventy five percent women

maybe it's an english thing

>>7003276

i read it yeah... that's why i used the words "seem to be," in what i said to you, that's me acknowleding the stereotype thing... no sense in being rude when you read wrong...

i'm not offended, but i do think it's in poor taste to take a picture a transguy took, use it elsewhere, and then go "is it just me or... women"

i'm not a sensitive person, and i'm way too used to stupid shit from life and other people to be bothered... but that doesn't mean i lack the sense to realize that something like that is in poor taste... and typically when someone does something in poor taste and i'm involved somehow it's done to get under my skin... which doesn't work cuz i'm zen level depressed and there's pretty much nothing left that can bother me, especially if it's directed at me...

but if that wasn't your intention then that's nice...

though if you have birds why would use gypsy's pic instead of theirs? that's just weird... all of it is really... the stereotype you went for and you taking her pic from here when you have birds... but whatever...

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>>7003350
If we kept them as pets crazy cis white females would protect them like their own bebbes

>>7002176
Damn dude. I'm not exactly a good artist, just a doodler, but I could draw it if you wrote it. Or you could find someone from /ic/ or somewhere online?

>>7003339

GIMME

>>7003293

i have 3 and love them... especially my conure, she's like a tiny dog with feathers and goes out on walks and shit...

most people who get birds and don't care for them properly are the ones who don't like them... then they're annoying cuz they're miserable...

that being said idk that i'd mind strangling the bird across the street from me... fucking nonstop noise, more than all 3 of mine combined

i don't care for snakes, in the sense that i like them and think they're cool, but i wouldn't keep one cuz they're boring and i don't care for their eating habits...

>>7003362

it seems more like there's a handful of personality types that fall into what people choose, and it has nothing to do with gender...

my little bro and my s/o's little bro are both in love with their cats though...

i prefer birds cuz they're easier to take care of than a dog but they're affectionate and playful still and easier to take outside than a cat + i hate the way cats and dogs smell, and all that fur is awful... finding feathers on my clothes is less annoying than being covered in fur

having gone from a roommate with 7 dogs to here with my bro's cat and birds though i think i prefer cats to dogs when it comes to living with pets that aren't mine...

>>7003387

But I'm ftm too.

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>>7003520
Nope

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>>7003553

I'll just take you and have de jure power over your pango

>>7003530
Cara pls go

>>7000700
just noticed good numbers there op

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>>7003561
Never! Ticklefingers attack!

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>>7003583

>challenging me to a tickle fight

Negro you don't even know what hell you've wrought.

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>>7003612
Oh crap

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>>7003625

>>7003717
This is why I won't let retards handle my food

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>>7003724

I like to handle my balls

>>7003612

Tickling is awful.

>>7003523

I find birds harder to take care of than dogs. They cost more, aloof on default, and their size makes them difficult.

I just needed a quick bird picture and that was cute. I don't take pictures of my birds tbqh.

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>>7003737
>tfw no balls
I'm stealing your albaca

>>7003760
Bad bunny

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>>7003770

STAY BACK

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>>7003787
Too late. Ahahahahaha.

I wanna paint my finger nails but it's pretty embarrassing. I just colour my toes and hide them from everyone.

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>>7003801

>>7002248
yeah, you're gonna have to find a replacement hobby. Try writing, there are Braille word processors with tactile displays that work well.

>>7003829

Only stupide, edgy teenagers give reptiles live prey. It's inhumane and most of all dangerous. Rats and mice can pack a punch. I have heard stories of mice killing the snakes or heavily damaging them.

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>>7003900
R-Reepicheep? Is that you?

>>7002447
becoming deaf means you can only hang out with deaf people (and thats only after you learn sign language)

becoming blind means you can still hang out with normies, your potential social circle is 100 000 times bigger

>>7003530

i don't see why that necessarily changes anything...

>>7003760

dogs need to be walked and shit multiple times a day, every day without fail... that alone makes them too much for me cuz i'm not healthy enough to do that

i like that my birds are small, i don't care for large animals i feel like that makes them annoying and get in the way... whereas birds are easier to handle cuz they're tiny...

and not even kinda aloof... gypsy (the bird in the pic you used) lets herself out of her cage in the morning and flies into bed to cuddle with my s/o and i... she's always jumping onto our shoulders and cuddling with us, she chills and goes for walks... not even kinda aloof, and she even likes strangers

i actually just finished telling a guy in a halloween store where i got her cuz he said hi to her and she jumped onto his shoulder and didn't wanna leave...

he was actually saving to get an african grey 'til he met her...

>>7003362
Aren't english women responsible for creating all those inbred, deformed dog breeds like pugs, boxers, bassets and bull terriers?

>>7003829

my green cheek in particular is relatively quiet and when she does make noise it's typically clucks and purrs... i got her specifically cuz green cheeks are quiet as far as birds go, but i find bird noise less annoying than dog noise anyway unless you're talking large parrots...

i'm vegan personally which is part of what turns me off... even though they're frozen it's still gross to me... and i hate when people pass around snakes that tends to just stress them out

>>7003939

Aloof isn't the right word. Easily frightened is more accurate. You can befriend a dog in one day but it takes weeks for a bird to like you. They won't let you touch them or even get near them until you hand tame them.

>tfw you'll never be a femboy because it's against your fashion sense

>>7003960
exactly, terrifying upper middle class women who are slightly too homey to be horse people are the progenitor of all kinds of social ills

>>7003960

Pugs are Chinese. All those breeds were fine until a hundred years ago or less. Then people began ruining them.

>>7003968

that's not necessarily true... it depends on the kinda bird and you... and how old they are when you get them... i've have 3 birds currently and i've had 3 others in the past + i've been around plenty cuz a lot of peopke in my family have had them...

that's only true about some birds...

gypsy spent the car ride home the day i got her on my shoulder... and was instantly attached

>>7003933

deaf people can just write to communicate and text... you can be friends with normal people regardless

idk... i've had a deaf friend...

>>7003933
>becoming deaf means you can only hang out with deaf people (and thats only after you learn sign language)
Not true since internet happened. Text-based communication is easier than ever.

>>7004003

i have* my bad... i'm burnt the fuck out

but yeah i mean... if you're talking about pet shop budgies that's usually true (though i had one that ate out of my hand and sat in it the first day i got it), but not birds in general and conures in particular tend to be really friendly... even in pet shops

but really when it comes to birds getting them from a breeder is best...

>>7004053

a lot of people don't take care of their birds which is part of what makes them obnoxious, and large parrots have a lot of needs so they're even harder to deal with... personally i'm not a huge fan of large birds and would never get one cuz they're more prone to issues in addition to being more work... and yeah the noises they can make are not something i'd wanna live with... i like smaller parrots and parakeets... except cockatiels i've never met one i liked

i hate barking... i like dogs though just not to actually take care of... i'm just not good with that

i'd be vegetarian if i could, but i'm allergic to eggs and dairy... and i can't do any strenuous exercise cuz it could make my health issues worse... i'm limited to shit like walking and yoga as a result

i find eating meat gross on a personal level, but other people eating it is fine with me...

>tfw your life has been the same for the past 5+ years

Three years ago I was a NEET who never left the house. Now I am still a NEET who never leaves the house. I hope you guys have more productive lives than me, eh?

>>7004138

I avoid talking about animals. /an/ has taught me that 99% of pet owners are crap so they'll just upset me.

>>7004635
>They're all crap
>Lol ima NEET guys. Whooooo.
Only you can fix your life. Pride goes before the fall.

what's up with all those ellipses

>>7004779
That's just Brooklyn. You get used to it.

>>7004852
"Do I pass if I obscure literally every part of my face and body and use weird filters to distort my features?"

no

>>7004635

i'm not very productive... don't work or go to school...

didn't do much today either... just cleaned and went grocery shopping with my s/o, little bro, and cousin... and went on a walk with my s/o and our bird so he could look for jobs (he's going back to one place tomorrow to work a few hours as a trial, they were gonna have him start today but he wasn't feeling up for it and he has an interview for somewhere else after that) then dropped our bird back off at home so we could wander around outside and smoke...

now i'm high sitting on the windowsill listening to the parrot across the street scream while my s/o makes dinner... i was playing guitar and singing for a bit, but this bird is such an asshole... if i didn't have birds already and this was my first impression of them... i can't even... it's been throwing a tantrum for a good 20 mins... i'm pretty sure it's a cockatoo

after dinner we're meeting up with my s/o's sis to smoke and chill a bit...

i found a biology textbook earlier... that was kinda cool... gonna read that... house party yesterday... met a couple people... couldn't really go out yesterday, so that worked out well...

i alternate between doing a lot of things that aren't productive and going out or being stuck at home sick and still doing a lot of things that aren't productive...

i can dislike something without getting emotional about it so that kinda shit doesn't bother me... i haven't bothered with /an/ cuz it's fall and i go there cuz plants so i don't really give a shit once it gets close to winter... the cat arguments are occasionally funny though...

>>7004779

idk... why didn't you use a ? or capitalize anything?

You gentlemen accept mtftms?

>>7005396
I don't see why not. As long as you're not one of those people who thinks that just because they made a mistake, nobody else has legitimate dysphoria.

>>7005500
I'm going to make because I don't pass and I rather be male than a hon

>>7002287
I love hummus, but I'm an NB asexual, and I don't know why I'm here

>>7005562
I am very bad looking
I had ffs and still look pretty masculine and can pass for male with no problem

>>7005521
How are you gonna cope with the dysphoria? I'm not judging, just curious. I tried to deal with mine and transitioning was the only thing that helped it.

>>7005581
I rather deal with dysphoria than be some man-faced freak in a dress

Boyfriend's mother found out my birth name today because a clerk yelled it out after looking at my ID, should I neck myself yet or what?

>>7005594
hey arent you that female weightlifter?

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Coworker called me by my old name getting a beer after work and now the new guy who apparently didn't know is confused and I am bad at brushing off the question. Shouldn'ta got angry in front of him but goddamn it.

I'd be more pissed at the guy who deadnamed me if he wasn't a fucking moron. His brain's had enough chemical damage that it probably was legitimately an accident.

He's still a fucking shithead, of course.

...fuck the terrible things, here is a happy cat.

>>7003578
thank you, i'm very proud of them too
>>7003933
>implying anyone here has ever hung out with normies
>>7005521
wait, are you leelemon from fph? i thought you were a cis girl

>>7005714

that sucks... at least he didn't do it maliciously though

i'm happy tonight... free heroin

>>7005726

i've hung out with normal people... not usually, but it's happened...

>>7005713
Weight lifter?

>>7005726
Fph?

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Who /lizard lover/ here?

>>7005923

i think they're cute, but i'd never want one... my older bro (my s/o and i live with my little bro, not him) breeds geckos and shit, he's always had a bunch of lizards and like snakes and spiders

but i think they're boring...

>>7005958
Thats fair enough. I love birds too but I personally wouldn't have one as a pet, Im sure I wouldnt give it the right care it needs.

>>7005714
Woulda said it was an old joke nickname...
That's a lovely cat.

>>7006008

yeah nah they're not for everyone... at all... if i wasn't sick then i wouldn't be able to do it honestly... cuz i can't work i have enough time for them, they do need a lot

i do shit like make them fresh food several times a day, and take them out (the budgies go out in a cage, gypsy has her leash) clean their playground area a couple times a day + their cages once a day... and then like vet visits and shit like that too, every 6 months and nail trimmings and such + they need new toys often and lots of attention

but giving them attention is easy for me... they're happy to just sing and chill while i play guitar or do shit i'm gonna do anyway

>>7005923
absolutely
i want to own a million snakes
one of my fonder childhood memories is playing with a gecko in the backyard

>>7006112
Yeah I've always seen birds like little kids, need lots of care and attention. Lizards just like to hide and chill.

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>>7006860
>not normal
>attention seeking

Well, I'm now back at the point that I can't look at cis men without wanting to spend the rest of my life with a bag over my head. I was staring at my facial structure in my phone camera as I walked out this morning and went straight back into the house. I can't do this any longer.

>>7007137
That's how ugly cis guys feel

>>7002100
black people are more likely to develop melanoma than white people. white people usually get the lighter skin cancers unless they avoid the strange moles for literal years but when black
people get skin cancer it will almost always be melanoma

>>7007179
>white people usually get the lighter skin cancers unless they avoid the strange moles for literal years but when black
>unless they avoid the strange moles for literal years but when black
Black people get melanomas because it's difficult to see strange moles with a very dark skin tone.
That being said, white people get more skin cancer overall.

>>7002245
>most chasers are mtfs who act like the op pic... if you aren't like that you might be okay I guess

How about ex-mtfs who aren't specifically ftm chasers but still find the concept interesting? Not because I see you as women or anything. I don't fuck ciswomen at all.

I could rightly be called an mtf chaser, but largely because I identify as gay and see mtfs as delusional femboys who need to be reminded of what they really are.

I would prefer a tall ish, skinny trans guy who is light on the facial/body hair though. Not into bears.

>>7006889

yeah... i never thought about it 'til my older bro had a kid though, my niece was the first really young kid i've ever spent much time around...

idk... i find kids mostly easy to deal with really, like my niece will throw temper tantrums with my parents and brother but not with my s/o and i... she tried one of the most recent times i saw her, and i just said "don't do that" and she started smiling and stopped immediately... and idk, she's a lot like the birds i see her and all she does usually is ask me to play guitar and take her on walks... that + the whole really bad talking cuz they're just learning some english shit...

so yeah i noticed it then, but birds are easier to clean up after and it's way less responsibility...

my s/o and i took care of his bro and sis when they were growing up, and dealt with all of their friends... cuz their mom would just constantly be out on dates after their dad died or be out or at work before that... so since i was like 14 i was doing that, and when i was idk... 23? maybe

we were living with them in their grandmother's apartment after she died, us and them... their mom would stop by... so i used to do shit like make them breakfast and wake them up for school and whatnot and my s/o would make them dinner

and when they were kids i'd do shit like help them with their homework and shit, which was no big deal... cuz i was used to doing that... when i was really little like 8 and shit my school didn't really know what to do with me cuz i was testing gifted and shit but had a lot of trouble paying attention and was either distuptive or just not even kinda doing anything school related... so they had me do shit like teach the esl kindergarten kids how to read... to keep me occupied with something productive... i'd get to leave class and shit

i find being around children easy enough, and i get along extremely well with ones who have shit like add... which is good for having birds

and they like that i'm noisy

>>7007137

well the only way to get to a place where it's better is to continue living like this for a little while longer... it's not an easy thing to do, but don't you wanna see what that's like at least?

you need to learn how to focus on other things... i get that it's hard but it helps a lot... sometimes you gotta go through shit that sucks to get something better

i tried to hang myself once, it didn't work out... careless mistakes cuz i hadn't thought it through so i got drunk instead, watched cops with my s/o and ended up having sex then passing out... and i woke up the next day and nothing changed, and it was surreal in a way honestly

i guess somewhere in the back of my head i thought the morning after doing something like that would be different... i suppose it was in a sense, but it was just a normal day... it just all felt surreal

and idk... any given moment doesn't have to be bad... you don't always have to think about the shit that bothers you, and learn to just appreciate what's going on around you... just normal shit that's nice about being alive that you might take forgranted...

idk... i'm really fucking high... i took some heroin (puked while coming down this time) last night and smoked a lot of weed and just wandered around... got 3 hours of sleep cuz i had to get my s/o up early so he could go to one of the jobs that he checked out yesterday, and then i ended up taking more and smoking more... and i'm just... really fucked up right now

>>7008150

+ i was planning on trying the muscle relaxers i got or this other shit i can't remember what it's called (people give me free drugs ) but now i figure i should probably wait 'til tomorrow cuz of the heroin (i had no plans to take it today, but then it was offered, and i couldn't turn it down... didn't have to hide it from my s/o at least like i did the codeine when i was taking that... we've talked a lot) might go on a weed tolerance break with the new shit, if i like it...i'd like to anyway... quit smoking without having to be sober... though i can get edibles now, but really i need a tolerance break from it... it takes too much weed to get me high, and it just feels normal now so it's not as satisfying as it could be...

i'm just rambling cuz idk... i knew i was gonna end up drug binging when i got here... i always do when it's been a while except this time i'm not going back to the poconos where i just mostly smoked weed + the occasional drinking binge...

>>7008228

+ and like... the codeine about once a month... but that doesn't count... it was pain related and codeine sucks... and i guess that one time i took heroin by the river there... but that came from here... and it was just once

my point is just i tend to take more drugs here, more often and a wider variety... and it's... idk i'm rambling and nodding off i should probably shut the fuck up now, and go lay down

sorry about that

>>7002966
Why do you trans guys love it? The first panel lists the handsome husband as amab nonbinary.

>>7008313
it's a relatable experience for a lot of trans guys
also trans girl diaries in general is brilliant, though i don't think handsome husband was that good
evelyn poor is one of the only trans girls who really gets the ftm experience and made a lot of good comics about us

Morning men

>>7008363
morning dude
it's not quite 1am here so i guess it counts
how are you going?

>>7008369
Just waking up.
Trying not to be sad but it's hard

>>7008394
a highly relatable feeling
i did more things than usual today, i read 5 chapters of a book and left the house and only jacked off twice, haven't done any writing or other really productive things though...
i'm also feeling really dysphoric because i don't know how to be post-transition in a reasonable timeframe
my transition was unreasonably dragged out by my country's legal system which is against underage transition and i want to be done with everything by the time i'm 20 but i'm 18 and don't know or have a reasonable plan on how to get any kind of surgery

>>7008413
It's tough
I suffer from dysphoria and I don't know where I stand. I'm mtftm and I feel all confused

>>7008431
yeah
i saw you talking about hons on /mtfg/
what future do you want ideally from where you stand?

>>7008433
Idk really
I'll probably just end up killing myself because I'll never be happy as either gender

>>7004691

I'm stuck in a hard place. My parents are helicopter parents who don't like me even going outside because they're afraid I'll get shot, kidnapped, attacked, robbed, etc. They don't even want me getting a job. They treat me like I'm 6 instead of 21. The only way I'll stop being a shut-in is if I move in with another relative, but I don't like the idea of being kicked out of the only house I've ever lived in. I had planned on staying here until I move out by my mid 20s into my own house, not to live with a relative. I don't even like my relatives.

>>7008447
29 and you're kind to say that

>>7008477
Trust me
The pics I post are all angled. Straight up, I look bad.
I'd show you if you have kik
Mine is Bemani_Lover

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>tfw no manic pixie dream boy

>>7008594

can i count

>>7008594

irl manic pixie dream boys don't exist, and definitely not here

>>7008313
i didn't say i love that particular comic, just asked who made it. but also >>7008343 is right, i found a full archive of her comics and they're actually pretty good, even the ftm ones

>>7008594
hi
let's road trip across america and drop acid in nature and cuddle watching kino
disclaimer: irl manic pixie dream boy comes with relentless crazy

>>7008799

you know... that actually sounds like a good time... i've always wanted to drop acid surrounded by nature and road trips are fun...

trying to work shit out to take one down to florida soon with my s/o, his sis, and my little bro to go take ayahuasca in some weird guided shaman ritual type shit...

>>7008840

i mean... it sounds like a good time other than watching shit and cuddling...

>>7008594
why are so many trans men i know into south park yaoi

>>7008799

I don't hang out with drug users.

My friend is moving out in a couple months and has offered me his couch; he even said he'd help me get on HRT. 21 isn't too late to start, r-right

>>7008942

why do you care what other people do as long as they don't try to push you into doing something?

>>7003323
>>7003339
>Is having [pet] tryhard macho?
If your decision to get a pet can be influenced by a yes or a no to that question, that's what's tryhard.

>>7008522
I have a bf and I often wonder why is he even with me. I'm not happy with how my whole transition went and I feel the highest I'll reach is on the level of a fem boy and that's just depressing to me. It's no wonder why I often thing about detransing a lot

>>7008984
>tfw cis bi bf who prefers girls
>feel like he's only with me because I'm pre transition

>>7008942
Even if you don't even drink beer, just once you should drop acid with a couple good friends you'd trust with your life. It can be as grand as going to the moon. Certainly in terms of perspective. (In this day and age you never have to look a dealer in the face even.)

Then you can go back to no drugs ever which is imo a good way to live if you can.

>>7009021
>As a cismale
>I wish I went trans earlier
what

>>7008991
If that is true, he might not like you when you transition :/

>>7009021
Buit like who wants to be a hon. That's why I did ffs and other things and it doesnt hel;p when I have friends, famil and my therapist hug box me.

>>7008343
>evelyn poor is one of the only trans girls who really gets the ftm experience

There's plenty of us who do *get* your experience.
I'm In my case understanding what you guys are going through is tempered by being treated poorly by ftms, afab nb's, and non- transitioning/detransioned trans mascs, in irl situations since about day 1. Don't get me wrong I've met some amazing and wonderful trans men in my time. It's just that some of them seem to borderline hate trans women.

On that note these don't apply universally, but here it goes:
Why does it seem like you enjoy watching mtfs suffer through being female?

Why do you maintain that estrogen makes us crazy?(sometimes implying that testosterone makes you perfectly sensible)

What gives you guys the idea that we blame you for testosterone working better/you guys passing better overall?

Why do you deny that testosterone packs significantly more of a punch than estrogen?

Why don't you guys work on your voices?

Why do you occupy women's spaces and do very little to push for trans women to be included in said spaces?

Why do some of you maintain the idea that we'll never know what it's *truly* like this be a woman because we've never had a period?

Why do guys have sex with/date
lesbians?

>>7009191
>Why do you deny that testosterone packs significantly more of a punch than estrogen?
who does this

>>7001848
Question, were you taking any medicatitions when you started to go blind? Were you on HRT?

>>7000700
That a lot of autism in one comic page. Nice James Bond dubs OP.

>>7009331
It used to be the prevailing notion here on /lgbt
Probably trans guys getting tired of being told how much better they have it than trans women. Like yeah, trans guys have their struggles, but denying that hrt for trans guys is drastically more effective in 99% of cases seems silly to me.

>>7009415
I hate this meme.
I think both parties have their own struggles especially when they don't pass

>>7009429
What meme?
And did you miss the part where I mentioned that trans guys have their struggles. I just don't think the effectiveness of hrt is one of them. 99% (and all percentages I throw out) might be an exaggeration but even still..

Think about it this way, only the very lucky 10% of trans women pass and pass well. Most of us get fucked on bone structure. And fuck, building muscle on mtf's hrt is difficult as is, and it's especially hard to build muscle in the hips in a general sense.

On the other hand only the most unlucky 10% of trans guys fail to pass on hrt. That and if you have wide hips it's easier to build muscle in the waist and shoulders under the influence of testosterone. And it being easier to get rid of curves through exercise and clothing than it is to get curves.

Most trans guys are almost guaranteed to pass in 6 months- 1 year of hrt. At the very least hrt works as advertised and you get the day distribution, muscle building, voice and facial hair.

That doesn't discredit other problems that might be faced though.

>>7009640
The meme that transmen struggle a lot less than trans women. I'm not mentioning theory issue.
I know that trans men have struggles.

>tfw I don't fall under the the 10% of mtfs

>>7009699
*hrt issue

>>7008950
slut

>>7010121
bait

>>7010146
Well done, anon. You feel clever now?

>>7000700
>>7002966
>>7003034
>>7008343
Oh man, I totally didn't realize there were more of these. Thanks anons. Grats on having a general that's not a complete shit show by the way. Wish MtFg was as chill as you guys seem to be.

>>7010165
http://www.mediafire.com/file/c7oklwn9kzsc7b3/transgirldiaries.rar

here's a massive archive i found, since whatever site she used originally was taken down years ago.

>>7010230
Oh sweet. I grabbed an archive off reddit a few minutes ago, but it seems yours has more stuff. Thanks!

>>7008464

How can you move into your own house if they won't let you get a job? You gotta get out of there, man.

>>7008464
>21 with helicopter parents
You have to stop that shit real quick. Get a job even if it's a shitty job like retail, you'd still be getting experience and bringing in some cash for yourself. At least volunteer at your nearest animal shelter, which is super easy with awesome people. If your parents are true helicopter parents I don't see how they could kick you out because that means endangering you to the world.

>>7008950
>21 isn't too late to start, r-right
i mean, you will almost certainly never look cis, but it's better than waiting another ten years
>>7009640
espouser of the 'testosterone isn't magic' idea here
ftm passability is a meme that exists because nobody knows what distinguishes trans and cis men in appearance
as ftm visibility climbs, passability will and is dropping
i can easily tell the difference between a post-pubertal transitioned ftm and a cis guy even if the former is average male height and muscular
however every ftm community outside of /lgbt/ would prefer to stick its fingers in its ears and pretend it can't hear me, even /lgbt/ did that until...earlier this year, and this means there is absolutely no preparation for the day when only 10% of trans men are capable of going stealth
this is also why trans guys don't work on their voices, there's no awareness in the community that it's actually important -- "stop shaming people for their voices! don't worry, you'll sound fine soon, and there are a lot of cis guys who sound 16! just watch [youtuber or minor celebrity with very obvious ftm features]"

>>7011013
>You'll never look cis

Where did this shitty myth come from?

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>>7011030
Well I'm 5'1" so he's right about that one

>>7011035
They're less common, but cis men who are 5'1 exist. I know a couple. There are cis men who have wide hips, higher voices than average, and and who are short. In fact they're probably more common than trans men since we're only like 1% of the population.

>>7011035
I'm 5'3" and have been passing for years, since starting at 19-20. I forget.
By all means I'm not tall and sexy even pretty muscular but I've been passing for years. I'm glad my hips are narrow.

Then again I grew up with a lot of mexican men who were way shorter than me. I'm just a goblin now, but I pass.

>>7009352
no, im not on HRT yet unfortunately

>>7011035
it's not height that matters, there are short cis guys and tall trans guys
it's skeletal facial structure and voice mostly
but both of those can be dealt with

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>>7011013

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What do FTMs talk about nowadays?

>>7011284
Testosterone has deepened my voice so much that people mistake my for my brother on the phone. It can't change my skeletal structure but my face is definitely masculinizing.

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>>7011407
I didn't leave 4chan, i just gave myself time to breathe from /lgbt/. Then I realized this was too important to walk away from so I'm back.

What did you say about me?

>>7004635
>5+ year NEET
>crippling social anxiety due to being a dropout and subsequently a shut in
>struggle to work, can't get shit together enough to go to college
>depressed, distraught, drunk more often than not
>can't hold a shitty minimum wage job due to anxieties
>bitch to ftmg about it
>receive sound advice i still remember to this day
>get hired
>suck it up and endure a year of feeling shitty at work
>end up excelling at my job, promoted to management level within months
>make amazing connections with coworkers, they become a small family
>coming up on 2 years at my job
>grew immensely as a person
>learned to talk to people, learned to work past crippling social anxiety, no more shyness, etc.
>opportunity to move even further up within the company
>wake up today to a text from my boss
>"anon, call me ASAP, it's important"
>call boss
>"anon, wanted you to hear this from me first and nobody else. we're closing within 30 days, company doesn't want to pay our buildings increased rent"
>o-okay

I really regret my NEETdom and now I fear it's knocking on my door again. Getting out of that shit was the best thing that happened to me, and I feel lost now that I'm losing it. Wish me luck bros.

>>7011729
With the experience you've gained I doubt going to have any problems finding a new place. Good luck dude.

>>7011861
Thanks anon, I wish you all the best as well.

>>7011861
>>7011974
On that note, I hardly ever post here anymore, just lurk. But I fucking miss my bro, vodka anon. If you still lurk here buddy, I hope you're doing well!

does f2mbinders.com ship discreetly?

>>7011985
that's underworks, and yes
they were the first binder providers ever and have a long history working with trans men, they're discreet

>>7012000
thanks dude

>>7011729

that sucks, but you'll find a new job... you have 2 years worth of experience now, at a job you were good at and would've kept if they weren't closing... that kinda shit looks good to people hiring especially cuz you were promoted quickly within those 2 years...

i get feeling disheartened cuz you went from nothing to this and now you're comfortable... but this might actually be a good thing, sometimes being comfortable leads to being stagnant...

just start looking now while you have a job, and don't worry too much... maybe look for something similar you can do confidently...

>>7011980

i haven't spoken to him since around his last bday... so back in may... he hadn't really been coming here at that point, but idk if that changed or not

at that point he was doing better in some ways, worse in others... but he had some possible opportunities so he might be alright now...

idk... i have his instagram and his phone number, but well... long story and we haven't spoken in a while, but i know he wasn't really coming here last time we did

a year ago this month my soulmate left me
we were perfect for each other and going to spend our lives together but i was a bit of a dick at times because i didn't appreciate it as much as i should have and when she had a break from reality this turned into her deciding i was the walking personification of evil and abandoning me forever
i am still not slightly okay with this
and on the topic of the general she's now claiming some tumblrgender shit but in retrospect misgenders me solely to cause me pain and it really fucks me up to know she'll eventually detransition and still get off on hurting me like this

>>7012554

it's been a year, let that shit go... especially cuz the other half of what you said just makes it sound like she's kind of a cunt and kinda crazy

you dodged a bullet, be thankful and find someone else...

>>7012641
The name Aiden is kind of a meme

>>7012630
i guess she is now
but she wasn't then, and i still love her or the idea of her or what i had with her, and i am not good at getting over people
my life is improving slowly but it is not burying her with it

>>7012794

who she was doesn't change who she is now, which is more important... considering

and loving the idea of someone isn't loving them...

not saying it's easy, just saying doing shit like still calling her your soulmate after a year of not being together is a good way to keep your head in a place where you can't get over it...

will a diagnosis of autism or sociopathy impede me in getting a script for T?

>>7013072
Those are two very different things dude

>>7013072
diagnosed autist here, it should probably help you desu
autism is overrepresented amongst an ftm population and any gender therapist worth their salt knows this isn't from confusion, it's from a legitimate if understudied connection
personal hypothesis: autism and ftm sex discordance are connected because they're both related to elevated prenatal testosterone during brain development
as for 'sociopathy', if you're diagnosed with aspd you've fucked up, why did you tell the truth to a therapist?

>>7013082
yeah i know. Its just that I have symptoms of both
>>7013098
thanks man, with the aspd, its far more likely i have autism, but i really do have problems with empathy, the only reason id tell a therapist the truth is because i believe my lack of empathy is negatively affecting my relationships

Is there any point in finding a partner pre-T? I don't pass, so no one will see me as a man, and even if I find someone who are interested how can I know if they can handle the whole transitioning thing?

Can you guys tell me about your partners? How did you meet, how did they handle things?

>>7013232
i just spent all day on the less crazy bit of tumblr hanging out with people who would later attempt mass shootings and the kind of girls who are into that went for me, so if you want to date internet predators and trendscum do that i guess

>>7013232

idk... i've had gay guys and straight women who were interested and respectful in spite of my position... so i don't think that rules anything out...

and you can't just know unless they know from the beginning, otherwise you're always risking a negative reaction...

my s/o is fine with me, and really supportive... but he's trans as well... it's weird cuz he's really supportive of me transitioning and all of that, but when it's himself he feels like nothing would be good enough... he'd stay with me through nearly anything though, i know that...

but our 12 year anniversary is coming up, i've known him more than half my life and we were best friends for years before we ended up dating (lots of touching and whatnot when we'd share a bed staying at each other's houses though it never occurred to me he liked me or had feelings 'til he finally just said it)

we met twice and were friends separately from both meetings (once online by chance... i met his cousin and she thought we'd get along so she introduced us... and it was weird cuz i knew who he was actually cuz mutual friends kept telling us to meet... we started talking every day, but never got around to meeting), and i met him again in hs we just ended up hanging out together during lunch and didn't have any classes together... we got along better in person and were immediately finishing each other's sentences and shit like that... it felt like we knew each other forever... so we were hanging out at lunch and then coming home and talking without realizing it 'til i was out sick for a few days... he figured it out while i was gone, and we decided to hang out that day and were just pretty inseperable since...

whether or not finding someone first is worthwhile depends entirely on who you find...

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>>7008925

Supressed want to be a boy growing up. SP is about a bunch of cute boys. It's like why mtf like schoolgirl anime.

>>7013469
brooklyn you and your s/o give me hope tbqh
>>7013579
i concur, even though i'm not into SP myself. i love other shit filled with cute boys, though.

>tfw hurricane

Also why is gender therapy so expensive? $50 a session is bleeding me dry and that's on the low side from what I've heard.

>>7013834
What country? I get mine for free.

hey i'm an mtf. we call ourselves tranny pretty often i think, whether it be to diffuse the hate infused in the word itself, or because we are self hating at our core.

do ftms call themselves trannies?

>>7013948
I use it but only when I hate myself and do jokes. So pretty much the same as you guys.

>>7010807

I was planning on going to dorm in college. I don't know if that's reasonable anymore. I'd probably be only able to afford a college without dorms.

>>7010865

My parents are so scared of me getting a job.

>wanna get a job at Mcdonalds or in a grocery store at the cash register
>"they pay horribly, the customers are too mean and bossy, they'll wage exploit you"
>wanna work at Target
>they start complaining that it's dangerous or something something, I don't even remember
>wanna volunteer at a shelter
>they're against me doing work for no pay

The only job they agree with is working as a receptionist and tbqh I am not interested in that.

They don't wanna literally kick me out, just make me live with someone else in the family. If they can't see it then it won't worry them.

Aidan is a boys name, right? Unisex? I was watching a show and a girl had that name.

>>7013690

that's nice to hear...

it's somehow the only area of my life i haven't managed to fuck up completely... i can't seem to function as a human except to maintain a relationship...

>>7014053

why would you let your parents pick your job? so what if they don't like it tell them it's the place that hired you and you want to work... all going along with their bullshit is gonna do is fuck you over when you try to start a life later on and have no experience or anything...

getting kicked out can be a good thing though...

>>7014223

It may seem wimpy but I don't know how to not listen to my parents. Like if they say I can't go out today or I can't get that job, I'll just have to do as they say. I can't just go run off somewhere because I feel like it. I'll complain to my parents but our arguments have been circular for years. They don't budge in their opinions. They move goalposts a lot. They say if I do so-and-so I can get a job but I do it and then they repeat, or they say I can't get a job unless I shave and I don't wanna so I can't get a job.

My only bet seems like going with a relative but I don't wanna so I just continue to stay at home doing nothing.

>>7013948

No, it's not my slur to reclaim. It's trans woman geared.

>>7014260
this isn't a normal and healthy parent/child relationship bro

>>7014260
Grow a spine. This is not OK if you're 18 or older. Actually quite pathetic if they're not even physically stopping you from say, dressing smartly, going out of their front door and handing out some copies of your CV to local businesses.

>>>/fit/38969253

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What keeps you guys going?

>>7014260

that's not ok you know... and that's not me judging i came from a different fucked situation...

i used to regularly get hit growing up, and like... other shit... and idk... it never stopped me from doing things i wanted i just learned how to hide everything i was doing... and it wasn't... no matter how big a deal something was it was only gonna get an over-reaction...

and that's as far back as i can remember, no shit i can't think back to a point in my life where that wasn't a thing...

i'd get hit every time my little bro would get hurt, my dad would be the only one home and in his bedroom watching tv and shit and leave my little bro and i alone in another room and if my bro tripped or some shit like that he'd come in and just start hitting me...

i'd get hit for shit like spilling things... disagreeing with anything, having an opinion at all, not wanting to wear certain clothes, not wanting to go to church, having a hard time paying attention in school, having feelings about anything or not being immediately happy after someone apologizes for something regardless of what it is, being too sick to go to school without also having a fever, etc etc etc

but yeah anytime i wanted to do anything i found it hard to care about what the reaction was gonna be...

i mean i learned how to lie and hide things and all that sorta shit... to bite my tongue and not talk back when it wasn't worth it to avoid more trouble but idk... it just never stopped me from doing shit i wanted cuz i knew that what i did or didn't do wouldn't change much...

but yeah... idk... i don't usually do shit just cuz someone else wants me to

and in your case if you can get yourself to and from work they can't just keep you in the house... i mean... what are you afraid of that's making you listen to this if you find it unreasonable?

>>7014308
>No, it's not my slur to reclaim.
go back to tumblr with that clap trap

>>7013948
>do ftms call themselves trannies?
yep and i don't think it's an inherently bad word. i do hate how people act around around these so called slurs to the point where they say its transphobic to even say words like tranny or "appropriation" of some sort. even if you are trans!

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>>7014784

>>7014784

idk... there's some nice shit about being alive, don't gotta think about bad shit all the time + my s/o and the life we have together... i'm perfectly happy doing shit like walking with him to work in the morning, and i know it helps him feel better cuz he has anxiety issues... and i was happy sitting in the kitchen with him just now while we were talking to gypsy cuz she's been working on talking a lot lately...

and well... drugs and alcohol help a lot...

idk... i've also been through a lot of bad shit, and currently have plenty of bad shit going on... and it just... has trained me to be happy with pretty simple shit and not constantly think about shit that bothers me...

besides it's not like life slows down or stops just cuz you're feeling fucked up...

>>7013948
I refer to myself as a cuntboy sometimes. Not publicly, just in private. It really bothers some trans guys which is understandable. I don't like the word tranny at all even in a porn context.

>>7014838

The idea of reclaiming slurs has existed for decades. Personally, I don't do it. I'm black and I still hate the n word nevertheless.

>>7014838
i agree, i think it's all up to context, not just word usage
>>7014964
yea i use all the good ones. my friends affectionately call me titdick, we do the ladyboi and the mr. maam things.

>>7014838
>i do hate how people act around around these so called slurs
the concept of slurs has been around for a long fucking time. i personally don't call myself a tranny, but, to act like a this is a new thing is really stupid.

>>7014964
yeah that one really bothers me, i'd rather forget my genitals exist.

>>7013948

Yep. 'Slurs' are great and tranny is just a cute abbreviation. And if it's not socially acceptable to say it, then I'm going to need an informal alternative, because 'trans person' is boring as shit, and being uptight is half the reason people think we're all hypersensitive SJWs.
Slurs are all about context.

If tranny is a slur just because of porn, then lesbian should be a slur too.

>>7015085
>because 'trans person' is boring as shit
wat

>>7015085
among the guys I know IRL affectionately calling one another "a tran"

>>7014319

Meh. A lot of people have helicopter parents.

>>7014834

I don't know if I'm afraid of anything. Maybe I am. My parents were the type that believed in corporal punishment but I never ended up actually injured due to it, however psychologists do say spanking and whipping kids isn't good for their psychological development so idk. Anyway, I just don't feel like not listening to them. It's probably weird but it never really comes to mind. I don't think it's right to just walk out and stay out all day, I need permission.

>>7015085

Imho it's stupid sounding on top of being considered offensive. It's not cute at all.

>>7014053
>>7014260
this is so alien to me. not that it's necessarily your fault (though you can and should try and get over it asap) but...why can't you just say 'i don't care?' why don't you just walk out the door?

>>7015085
i like dropping tranny casually in conversation to get others to loosen up around me

You can't be intersex if you menstruate, grew breasts, etc right? I'm curious why I can't seem to feel anything from penetration. Even virgins should feel pleasure, right? It's not dysphoria either, it's literally just no positive feeling.

>the mods deleted my genderqueer thread

That's weird. It was about hormonal and surgical transition. I guess /ftmgen/ is the only place to talk about that, but guys on here usually go on normal doses of t.

>>7015176

it's not good whether or not you were physically injured... worst i ever got were bruises, and for a long time it didn't click how abusive shit was cuz i was taught by my parents that it was only abuse if you ended up in the hospital... but nah for me it wasn't spanking, my parents never spanked me, i've been slapped in the face, punched, kicked, dragged across the floor by my hair while a combination of those things went on, i've had my mouth forcibly washed with soap and they'd do the forced extra spicy hot sauce thing as punishment too... but i was never spanked

can't call it corporal punishment either cuz it wasn't usually for anything that needed punishment... my parents have never known anything about my personal life and didn't know much about me fucking up in school and shit either... so there wasn't much to actually punish

you're 21 years old and you need permission to go outside and stay outside? you're an adult, you shouldn't need permission to leave your house or get a job

and it just not occurring to you to just do what you want when there's no real reason not to (you want shit like a job and control over your physical appearance who the fuck is gonna fault a fucking adult for wanting to work and groom themselves the way they want?) makes no sense to me... you're too old to need permission for that kinda shit

>>7015469

If you went through normal puberty, and have normal menstruation it's highly, highly unlikely that you're intersex.

No, virgins don't always feel pleasure the first time. Penetrative sex is often less than fantastic, even for cis women. It could be dysphoria, because that shit can fuck with you in a lot of way, and not all of them are 'omg i want to die'. Could be that the person you're fucking is useless, too.

>>7015469
I highly doubt you are intersex. Not loving penetration is common with even women who love their vaginas, most virgins think that penetration is like this amazing pleasure, in reality it's not even that good unless you're abusing the clit at the same time.

>>7015507
>the mods deleted my genderqueer thread

Good.

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>>7014964
>tfw no one to call me a cuntboy

>>7016189

I haven't seen a gq thread deleted in forever; heck, there's a different one up right now. It was probably one of those weird deletions like how /ftmg/ got deleted a few days ago. Usually I keep to /ftmg/ and blend in since functionally I am a trans guy, but I didn't wanna crap up the gen with my issues.

>>7014784

Video games, music, and cute dogs.

>>7013232

Tell them from the get go.

>>7016192
I can call you a cuntboy if you'd like.

>>7013948
i do but only here because every ftm-run community outside of /ftmg/ is full of trendscum bitches who are triggered by everything
>>7014145
male
tv shows for adolescent/young adult audiences have a lot of female characters with male names to seem edgy and hip with the youth
>>7015469
yes, there are many intersex conditions that can prevent with a near-normal female phenotype and many conditions that inherently do that with a debated intersex status
however it is exceedingly unlikely
>>7016282
if you want to look and live as male, you are ftm
why do you call yourselves a bullshit term reserved for the kinds of people who are ruining trans people's lives and ending our chance of social acceptance?

where should /ftmg/ go if /lgbt/ gets deleted? i like this place but it might die quickly on a fast board

>>7015981
>>7016189

I don't plan on losing my virginity ever, I'm just experimenting with myself. Aren't people supposed to feel something? I've never felt anything at all except maybe a little pain. No pleasure whatsoever.

they told me to come here if i wanted a cute boyfriend?

>>7016490
are you cute
post face pic
give okcupid-style autobiography

>>7016490
Would you settle for a cuntboy with a big clit?

>>7016526
yea idc i don't like sex
>>7016519
biography: i'm a lame mtf tranny who likes anime and nintendo

>>7016535
what animu do you like
do you like reading, what are your favourite books
if you could do whatever you want without money, being a tranny, etc being an object what would you be doing
would you rather things be safe or interesting
what vague area of the world do you live in

>>7016546
My favorite are Nichijou and TTGL
I like reading. I like The Wheel of Time, Philip K. Dick, Kafka, Dostoevsky and I like The Fountainhead even though I dislike Rand
I would be making movies
interesting
texas

whew this is stressful guys

>>7016556
>philip k dick
>kinomaker
>interesting
so when do you want the wedding to be
t. manic pixie dream boy who wants to make art all the time and be the second coming of terence mckenna

>>7016573
>mckenna
can we do a shroom wedding

Are there like failed FTM's that basically look like girls or femboys that still want to dominate regular looking guys

>>7016580
of course
>>7016582
i'm pretty sure that's what the guy who ran the notanotheraiden blog was

>>7016594
i'm excited

>>7016595
hot
>>7016594
so are they common

>>7016626
what the fuck does that mean

>>7016639
you have a ftm mommy?

>You can't be ftm. You're a coward.
How to respond?

>>7017469
sometimes being able to transition is what gets you out of your shell, i know it was for me

since not having to be uncomfortable with your body and social position 24/7 does wonders for your capabilities

>>7016438
maybe try getting really horny first? like have a full-on wank in the way you normally would and then try penetration. also whatever you're using could be too small and pokey or, conversely, too large and stretchy

>>7016189
>most virgins think that penetration is like this amazing pleasure, in reality it's not even that good unless you're abusing the clit at the same time
That varies from woman to woman, some love vaginal penetration and do get orgasms from it. So don't go making blanket statements about it. There's even a tiny minority of women that claim they get their best orgasms from being fucked in the ass.

>>7009028
you can't trust anyone with your life when they're high

>>7008958
people on drugs are unpredictable and their actions can affect your life if you're close to them

>>7017469
>>7017619 is right, it's impossible to not be a coward fuckup when you're pretransition

>>7017640
Are you the straight edge guy?

>>7004050
"Hang out" means beign in a room together. One-on-one a deaf person can communicate with a non- sign-language person with text, but in a flowing spoken conversation? No fucking way.

The deaf person has to look to see who's talking, and if they're using speech-to-text/text-to-speech they also have to look at their display, and before the response has been typed in someone else starts talking, and then when they parse what that person said, erased their reply and typed in a new response the conversation has already moved on...

>>7017658
I agree, but I mentioned internet because it's not physical space. You can hang out in text-basd digital space, like online gaming, forums, and chats.

>>7017640

you sound like someone who doesn't actually know anything about drugs or users past extreme examples on tv and horror stories... there's a ton of grey area with drugs...

i'm high or drunk nearly every day, i've taken a fair amount of kinds of drugs, and i'm not doing a bunch of crazy shit... my life is pretty normal really, i just also take drugs...

even harder drugs are probably not like what you think... i took heroin a few times a couple days ago... most of what i did while high was just spend some time with my s/o and his sister and go for a long walk... and that wasn't my first time, but my first time was similar... it didn't even get in the way of me doing normal shit...

my s/o smokes weed, he's done other shit, he still goes to work (sober though) and gets shit done... he isn't unpredictable either, i know him well he rarely does things that surprise me and when he does it's him going out of his way to surprise me with something nice...

when someone is heavily into drugs and dealing with physical addiction or a lot of hard drugs it can alter their behaviour and depending on what you take it can make you erratic (can't lie pcp could do that sometimes to me, but also... it was pcp and even that didn't get me to a non functioning point every time... went to work on it once, and once my s/o took too much and had a scary high fever from it and i had to help him get into the tub and brought his fever down waiting to see if we had to call a hospital... that could've gone bad, but i was mentally there enough to take care of him), but that's not the default and that's not every user...

in all honesty the worst thing i ever put into my body was zoloft (it was an accident but i've had doctors push it at me), that shit made me crazy... and it's physically addictive... and yet i bet if someone told you they were prescribed antidepressants and took them every day the words "drug addict" wouldn't cross your mind, even though they technically are

>>7017658

you wouldn't give the deaf person a second to type and keep up? they type a lot quicker than you'd imagine anyway... they can keep up alright, and if you're physically hanging out with someone with a disability you're an asshole if you don't make accomodations for them... so i don't really see how being deaf would affect someone hanging out all that much unless they were hanging out with a bunch of people who were completely inconsiderate and didn't think at all...

i get what you're saying it's just not realistic in the context of a deaf person hanging out with people unless these are people they never met before who are all inconsiderate as fuck...

>>7017834

+ you gotta keep in mind deaf people are used to being deaf and functioning in a world where most other people are able to hear... they've adapted, and a lot of them have adapted well... they're a lot faster with typing than you'd imagine, and in a big group they just look around to see who's talking...

besides even at parties it's perfectly normal for a couple of people to have their own conversation... and a lot of deaf people are good at reading lips just make sure you look at them when you talk...

you ever actually hang out with a deaf person? i have... it really wasn't that different or complicated

>>7017871

+ deaf doesn't mean mute... they don't have to type to speak shit's just clearer when they do... but if they can read lips and speak other than the way they speak (deaf voice) it's easy to forget you're talking to someone who can't hear sometimes...

>>7016422

Functionally, as in not really but essentially seen as so. I don't wanna look male or live as male. I'd rather look how I want, which happens to be masculine-ish, and live as neutral. That is however unrealistic irl and I don't have the guts to be that one person who asks people to use certain pronouns. I don't even have the guts to tell people online to use certain pronouns, I just avoid referring to myself in a gendered way period. However if I look masculine, dress unisex, sound masculine, have a flat chest, etc the average joe is inevitably gonna see me as a man. It's easier just to pretend to be male than it is to pretend to be female.

>>7016490

You can't get boyfriends on 4chan. This isn't a dating site.

>>7017657

Nah. I don't preach against drug use, just don't wanna hang around users (like most people). There's no use telling people things they already know.

>>7018098
idk she sounds perfect for me and i would gladly be her boyfriend

>>7018260

considering how ignorant you are about drugs i doubt you have much to say

>>7018278

I know a decent sum about several drugs actually. It's an interesting topic to research.

>>7018494
Kek

>>7018494

reading about drugs (where btw all drug info isn't equal) isn't the same as knowing about them, not to mention some of the shit you've said clearly illustrates ignorance...

>>7018262

I seriously doubt people can get dates on 4chan. How would you meet?

>>7017469

I didn't realize a ftm stereotype was that we're badass.

>>7018587

Not everyone can have first hand experience with stuff. Reading about it is good enough.

What'd I say? That I don't like hanging around people who use drugs? Most people don't. It largely depends on what drugs you use though. If you just smoke weed then you're barely an issue if anything maybe annoying to people if you're one of those stereotypical stoner types. If you use harder drugs then it goes into "avoid eye contact and tell your kids not to talk to them" territory.

>>7018655

reading isn't the same, you can read as much as you want and if the sources aren't good you're still walking away with an ignorant bias... and i'm not saying you have to use drugs to have knowledge of them, i'm saying research doesn't equate with actual knowledge...

and that's actually the ignorant shit i was talking about right there... not everyone who uses harder drugs is a bad person, or unpredictable, or somehow a danger to kids or some other bullshit like what you're saying...

when i said you sound ignorant that's what i was talking about, that and you talking like everyone who uses drugs is a severe addict (you going on about erratic behaviour and whatnot, describing severe addiction behaviour not just like someone snorted a couple lines and that's it for a while) which just isn't the case... you have a stereotype about what it is and what these people are like, and you're holding to it ignoring the fact that people aren't all just stereotypes of the worst side of drugs... and that's sheer ignorance

the fact that you don't even have a reputable source to give about where you get your info adds to this...

you just straight up sound like someone who's kinda sheltered and talking about something they don't actually know about...

>>7018655

+ also plenty of people don't care if someone else wants to do a little coke at parties or take some acid a couple times a year etc

so "most people" isn't the case... "most people" aren't so uptight about drugs that they can't make the distinction between a severe addict and a user... you don't sound like "most people" at all...

>>7018701

I didn't say that's my opinion, that's others. I realize that they aren't bad or dangerous. I just don't like being around people who use drugs. I'm the same way towards other things like avid drinkers or people who don't like animals.

>>7017469

well you already fucked up a bit asking people how to respond to that instead of doing it yourself...

>>7018098

you can find someone to date anywhere... 4chan included... people meet everywhere

>>7018655

unrelated to the drug shit, you can easily exchange info and get to know someone through 4chan...

but related to the drug shit: there's grandparents and parents addicted to oxys, they're nearly exactly like heroin, just prescription (i've done plenty of pain killers and taken heroin they're the same shit pretty much) ...there's tons of people addicted to their prescription benzos, they're addicts as well... most people wouldn't turn away from those people or hide their kids, but those are drugs and drug addicts who will still go through withdrawal if they stopped and all that shit... there's professionals taking uppers to keep up at work, and so many people you wouldn't even think twice about... drug use is widespread and people who use are extremely varied there's no way to judge someone entirely based on drug use

>>7018746

autism?

>>7018776

You can't exchange info on this site without others seeing it as well. It seems impractical to use 4chan for actual dating.

>>7018794

i'm aware other people will see it, but it can still be done... it's not like other people seeing a throwaway email or some shit is a big deal anyway... if you meet someone and enjoy talking to them why would you just let that go cuz other people might see info that doesn't matter?

you can just personally give them your other info once you're actually speaking to them... it's not really impractical to accept the possibility of meeting someone worthwhile pretty much anywhere...

just seems stupid to me to discount a place entirely with zero legit reasons when meeting or talking further isn't even hard...

I recently upgraded from cheap ebay binders to an underworks binder and now my nipples are sort of sore and itchy. Could it be from that?

I pet my budgie for the first time today. It was so scary. She's so small and her heart beats so fast...So cute. She's still a little scared of me though.

I feel so nice today. It's amazing what a haircut can do. I just decided to crop a few inches of hair off and it's nice. I usually hate short hair too.

>>7018980

Probably? They're a little rough. They make my arms sore so I put lotion on.

>>7018980

probably... never had that issue, but i've used underworks and considering the fabric and style it doesn't surprise me that someone would...

>>7019048

you get used to them being so small, but it's weird at first yeah... now i'm whatever about it but when i first got budgies i was sorta afraid of handling them...

that's cute though, how long have you had her?

the two i have now i've had one for a little over a year and the other for almost exactly a year... they fly into bed to chill with my s/o and i, and will land on us or fly down to the floor and walk around but they're not really into being pet i can a bit, but it's not like gypsy where she'll cuddle and beg to be preened and give kisses and shit... they recently started taking food straight from my hands though too so there's been a lot of progress... desu i didn't put much effort into taming them which is why it's probably taken so long... it's that i got one to be a replacement friend for a budgie i had after her mate died of cancer, and then when her epilepsy killed her i got the another as a replacement companion... but cuz of that it took a while for me to actively try bonding a ton cuz i found looking at them both depressing for the longest...

i prefer gypsy's size though, she's not way bigger but it's enough to make a difference + conures are just built sturdier...

>>7019077

Got her a few weeks ago from relatives. They kept her for a few years but didn't bother to hand tame her or let her out of her cage. She can't be older than 3 though. It took less than a week to tame her.

would you guys recommend a cockatiel as your first bird? i really like them(also prepared to research and properly take care of one).

>>7019098

i don't get why people get birds when they don't let them out... that shit's so weird to me, glad you took her...

>>7019113

i actually don't like cockatiels, and wouldn't recommend one to anyone... i don't like the hissing shit, they're kinda boring, they're like lazy asshole cats, and the noises they make are really annoying...

small conures are great (only the small ones, don't get a medium or larger sized conure unless you wanna deal with noise issues), budgies can be too... avoid large birds in general really and keep in mind quaker parrots (my grandma had one i hated it, they can be aggressive this one was) and indian ringnecks are illegal in some states so if you aren't settled they're probably better to avoid...

biggest thing i feel like i should stress with a bird is you're better off getting one handraised/handfed from a breeder unless you're ok with adoption... it's just easier to really bond with them when they're used to people and the younger a bird is the better (though puberty and nippy stages can suck)

but do research and see what's right for you... i got gypsy cuz a green cheek conure is exactly what i wanted

>>7019202
yeah i was going to go with a hand raised one from a breeder, there's one in my town who according to a bird person i know irl is pretty great. i was thinking a cockatiel because i hear they're pretty good companion animals, which honestly i think i desperately need right now. i'll keep researching, though.

>>7019225

any bird can be a good companion animal, they bond really close... but it depends on what you're looking for

i like that conures are like tiny dogs with feathers... gypsy is really playful, really affectionate, into cuddling (every morning she wakes up and flies into bed to cuddle with my s/o and i, and spends a lot of her time flying to us or near us), fairly quiet (all birds make noise, but she tends to stick to clucking and purring), and is really friendly with new people and not scared of much so she's easy to take everywhere

something her size and up is probably better for you just cuz then you can get harnesses and shit for it then...

if you really want a cockatiel go for it, but in my experience they're boring, loud, and nippy... i almost got one before i was around any and i'm so glad i didn't

>>7019246
i've been around my friend's cockatiel a few times and she's pretty sweet. however one set of grandparents(who honestly weren't the best people) had a few birds and they weren't really good at owning them(they kept them in tiny ass cages and had an african grey that was definitely in a cage too small, he constantly pulled his own feathers).
my online friend has a green cheek conure who he says isn't very friendly so i guess that sort of turned me off to conures i guess. though i don't really know how good of a bird owner he is; from what i understand it's his brother who does most of the work.

you do make them sound very appealing, though. i'll look into them more.

>>7019269

could just be the ones i've been around, but my s/o had one as a kid who he didn't care for either in comparison to gypsy... i've never personally owned a cockatiel though (the dust was another thing that put me off)

i don't understand people who spend a ton of money on huge birds to just not take care of them (any pet at all really, it's just those are so fucking expensive...), and big ones are hard even if you take good care of them cuz they need way too much...

could be a matter of socialization or the individual bird... idk... gypsy met a guy who was working in a halloween store the other day he said hi to her, held out his hand and she jumped right onto him and didn't want to leave him (we think it might be that he looked kinda like our friend who she really likes, she would dance on his head and cuddle with him when he'd pass out on the couch), and every time she meets someone new in our house she's instantly interested in sitting with them and getting attention and cuddling... but she's used to meeting people and i made sure she was well socialized since i take her out

green cheeks need more attention than cockatiels from what i've heard though...

>>7019269
oh i meant to include that that however that set of grandparents owned a very nippy cockatiel, but, she probably wasn't very well taken care of. my brain is so bleh today.

>>7019306

nippiness is normal when a bird is a baby, they go through a nippy stage (i had cuts all over my hands when gypsy went through hers, it was like 2 or 3 weeks of dealing with it and she hasn't bit since), but if it isn't corrected properly it's a bitch... and with birds bigger than budgies it can be a bitch

>>7019323
yeah the bird was way past being an adult when i knew her, she was mainly super bitey/very unfriendly. i think i can probably attribute that to improper care.

>>7019331
also i wanna add that gypsy seems like such a sweetie, i'm glad you care about her so much.

Just curious, would you be willing to date a MtF? And why/ why not??

>>7019338
i only like boys

>>7019338
Sure, why not, if she fits my criteria. Which is not very likely because if a girl is more than a few inches taller than me, I'm not attracted to her. And I'm very short.

>>7017658

The conversation already moves on without me all the time so I doubt I'd notice the difference, myself.

>having enough friends to hang out in a group
Get a load of mr popular

>>7019338
If I liked her. I prefer vagina though.

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>>7019331

yeah probably in that case, a lot of bad behaviour is a matter of not correcting it... like my grandparents let their quaker fly around and shit, but she was really cage aggressive and they never broke her out of it or did the shit that helps prevent it

which is another thing to watch out for actually, make it a point to put your hands in the cage a lot and when you take the bird out reach in as often as possible... a lot of birds can get territorial if you let them... gypsy doesn't care people she's just met can put their hands in her cage, but i've been around cage aggressive birds and they can get crazy

my grandma's quaker actually if you even stood too close to its cage (and it had to be put away when there were guests cuz it would attack) would try to get through the bars to bite... it was a bitch

she is really sweet yeah... only thing is she can be stubborn (if she doesn't want to do something she won't) and birds will chew things if you aren't careful, even if they have toys sometimes... + well the attention requirement, but it kinda sounds like you're getting a bird cuz you want a pet to spend a lot of time with it in which case that's a non issue...

and yeah i love her, my s/o too... neither of us have ever been more attached to a pet, which is why she's spoiled as fuck (actually just got back from walking her)

this all reminds me that i gotta get in touch with a vet's office here... she needs to meet whoever is gonna be her new doctor and she could use another nail trimming + a beak buffing would be nice... that's one thing though, i would rather pay to get her nails trimmed than do it myself even though she's so well behaved it takes a vet like 2 minutes to do them all... that kinda shit makes me feel sick

pic sorta related, she discovered she can run around by the ceiling here

>>7019338

i would if i liked her... i just don't give a shit about gender or whetger or not someone is cis or trans... there's all kinds of attractive people

>>7019338
Yep. As long as he was a power bottom.

>>7019603
she***

sorry.

>>7019589

whether*

>>7018980
I wear a tank top under mine. No more itchy nipples, ypu can go longer between washes, and it smooths out the silhouette a little.

>>7019603
>>7019605
wow rude!

>>7019338
i had an mtf gf previously, and i would say yes but on the proviso that she's already mostly transitioned. i don't care about surgery, but the first few years of second puberty can get a little emotionally rough

>>7016291
Thanks

>>7019338
Hell yes
t. Ftm trans gal chaser

>>7020553

New threaddd

>>7021214
new thread

>>7016594
NAA isn't an kinky dude though