/hong/ - hon general

why would you use the same picture

and get this shit out of here
>Post non-passing mtfs who started HRT young
>Debate the existence of young hons
>or is projected to be

Not doing well this time

>>6957155
this thread has excluded too many people

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>tfw you accidentally catch a glimpse of your face
eww somebody kill it!

>>6958255
>convince yourself you're passable
even worse feeling sometimes

>>6959279
I hate that when it happens

>>6957204
no it hasn't, it's just that this board is full of youngshit passers, hence the need for this thread

>>6959279
>Tfw think you pass
But Everyone knows
and treats like the token tranny

>25
>6'1
>41.5" (17.5-18.5" width) shoulders
>36.5" (13-14" width) hips
>11mos HRT
give me one good reason not to kill myself

>>6961655
What's your underbust and waist measurements?

>>6962139
ub resting 33.2"
ub with full breath 34.5" (don't know which is what people measure
waist 29.7"

>>6962385
you're fine
i'm a lot shorter and I have about those numbers

>>6962565
but i still look like a disgusting man shit

>>6962577
well you have a nice body as far as numbers go

>>6962613
i really don't see it
in that case i do not feel that the numbers (themselves are solidly male range too) are favorable for me. i wore womens clothes the other day and then had to take them right off and spent the next hour crying
especially my skull, height and feet

>>6962624
don't expect to get it right, right away
it takes time and learning how to dress your body

>>6962638
if i disgust myself naked it doesn't matter how well i can hide it with clothes

>>6962648
all mtf have a male skeleton
if you can't understand and accept this, then you're never going to be happy

>>6962661
first of all, not true
true for me
knowing this does not mean i can ever be ok with it or be happy

>>6958255
i had this pre hrt

shit was horrible

>>6951642
My friend is 19. He just decided he was trans. He has a very feminine skeletal structure and facial features. He's convinced he will pass, but here's up the thing - he's 6'4". He keeps trying to tell me that he knows women who are as tall as him, and I keep calling bullshit. I mean, Jesus, six foot fucking four? Is there any chance he will ever pass?

>>6969658
yes

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started at 25. 3 years since then, No face surgeries. People take me as girl. Still wearing mens clothes.....I'm scared of my too manly voice...

>>6974373
More pics of cat please

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>>6974506

i'm not passer among other mtf coz i behave like a total male

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>>6974710

i'm from Ukraine, mate. Thats eastern Europe

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Are passers better people than us?

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>>6974857

not at all. More of them are worst

>>6974857
very few pass irl, so don't sweat it

>>6974857
yes but theyre like unicorns anyway

at least you know youre a hon, most of your kind are delusional "passers"

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I know it's not a-rate-me-please thred by Snezhan (an Ukrainian TS from above) just gave me an idea.
And I still have kinda male voice((

>>6975131
Kristinochka <3

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>>6975131

russian crossdresser 35+. Pls no

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Eee, russian traps :3

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>>6975138
As you say =((

>>6975172
Up yours you fucking retard. I'm neither transvestite nor 35 :D

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>>6975205

but when we met at Moscow, u looked like a total hon, dear

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I also want :3

>>6975232
And you still look hon sweety;)

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>>6975297

i know that, thats why i'm not on the full time girl mode :3. But you are an embarassment for all russian wannabe traps :3

>>6975317
Of fuck that. I know I look good B)

>>6975330

nooo, u r worse than any bimbo. Anyways, gl hf

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Kill each other, fight to the death ITT!

>>6975341
Uhm... How 'bout: poshel nahui pidor? Eat this B)

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My life is fucked and everyone in it sucks.

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>>6975356

i'll gladly come on my fav cock with pleasure. Though u arent brave to tell people u r not worthy of calling urself atrap. Just a good crossdresser. And well, i'm hon, but at least on hrt

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A я мoгy пpocтo тyпo пиcaть c pyccкoй pacклaдкoй? Пoхoжe, чтo дa :3

>>6975378
Oh well so HRT makes you more of a woman?;) Suprise-surprise! And I've always thought being transgender is about how you feel and identify yourself...

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>>6975407

and what do u identify yourself with? A fake woman?

>>6975420
'fake woman' is a gender construct as you must have known boy ;)

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>>6975420

teach me, granny, your old guy's knowledge exceeds far beyond mine :)

>>6975483
Start with gender studies - and it's okay for you to be a middle-aged homosexual))

>>6975407
Hormones affect behaviour and physiology.

>>6975357
Why don't you just get FFS?

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>>6974710
I'm asian. I also have broad shoulders, man hands, man feet, no hips and I'm 5'8", FML

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>>6975402
burn in hell, commie

>>6977347
I've seen you before and you have improved a lot. Do you still want to get FFS? I don't think you need it at all. You're qt.

/hong/ more like /hung/ amirite xDD

>>6977894
Yes, plan for end of this year, I have no chin so will be getting implants together with jaw and chin contouring to reduce my mandible angle. There's only so much that lighting and photo angles can do plus it's different irl

>>6977894
Thanks btw

>>6975545
So HRT treatment MAKES you a woman? Spell it! Behaviour and psyhioligy may also be affected by lots of things - including drugs and alchohol...

I cant fix my life
I am a mess in every single way
all I do is wake up and do my best every single day, but my best will never ever be good enough because I'm a garbage person and all I have done is waste everyones time over the past three years

>>6991349
And gives you periods too!

>>6977347
Are you from vc?

>>6991905
What is vc?

/hon/

>>6977347
wtf it's a hongen, so don't make us feel even worse.

>>6996382
Wasn't my intention, if it makes you feel any better, the picture is all angles and lighting plus when I stand side by side to an asian girl I become the obvious tranny

>>6996881
just stop

how man laser sessions does the average hon need?

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found this on /fit/ (no homo)
thought it belonged here
http://imgur.com/r/transtimelines/ZqPCb9t

Freaks

All of you should just die

>>6998384

I've gotten about 6 or 7 laser sessions and I have like probably only 5-10% of the hair that was there left.

>>6951642
>no pics
Why no pics?

>>6974857
No. "Passing" is just a social construct created to keep us down. Be proud of who you are and how you look no matter what.

>>6998399
i will never understand this obsession with lipstick

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Pre-everything. Too scared to start, but the femme I feel the less suicidey I am.

>>6974373
Pass and pretty. I have long hair and fucking BLONDE eyebrows transgirls with dark hair/eyebrows are a super turn on. Also short hair!

>>6977347
You pass pretty well. Clear skin and great eyes. You should fail boymode. Maybe you have a deep voice but not a hon.

>>6985588
Hello! Have you been reading my thoughts? Except try ten years. I expect people to hate me so much I get distrustful when they find out how nice I am, truth is I don't understand what they see in me I am a waste of intelligent thought if I thought suicide would do the job it would be done but I know I'll only be happy if I could expiate my entire being, erase all contact and record of a failed miserable half-son of a bitch.

>>7000330
Me either I always thought the idea was for it to be subtle. I still feel super conflicted about makeup and socially transitioning desu. Guess I've just gotten used to being a freak.

>>6999074
Get out

>>7001817

Huh? That's not really that few sessions lol.

>>7001869
10-15 is average

>>7002198

Average for getting it all gone? Seems dubious.
I'm probably going to do it a few more times to get the rest of it.

>be in closet
>mom looks at shirt and points out the tag that it's a women's.

>>6975016
>>6975037
>>6999346
>>6999346
>this is what hons actually believe

>>6974857
Passers are shittier people. They deserve death.

>>6974857
Who's that in the pic?

Sometimes I wish I could go back in time but then I remember I had no one to come out to

>>7004857
tfw shoulders make girl shirts look like they have built in shoulder pads

Every few years, I fall under the delusion that I can pass and go on HRT for awhile. A few months in, I look at myself in the mirror and basically see >>6951642 (only with wider shoulders). Drop everything, rinse and repeat in another 2-3 years. I'm 24 now

How do I break the cycle?

>>7007935
by transitioning desu
otherwise you'll just end up doing it at 44 and wondering why you didn't at 24
post girlmode pic, given you're not technically at the end of male puberty yet the presence of estrogen during minor developmental phases has probably at least made you less bad than your dysmorphic reflection

whats the point of living just to be a slave in a disgusting body forever

>>7008066
Live life your way or end it

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>>6975357
That looks EXACTLY like my face.

I actually like my eyebrows a lot. I didn't before, but when a friend got hers done and they looked AWFUL I realized how lucky I was.

My chin and jawline still give me away though and I'm not OK with surgery to fix it.

http://www.forever21.com/UK/Product/Product.aspx?BR=f21&Category=top_checks&ProductID=2000217448&VariantID=
or
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-
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-
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or
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>>6959279
teach me how to do this pls ;-;

>>7008843
Stop going outside for a year and the delusion builds

>>7008888
Make it quick, it doesn't take long to reach the final step post-hon

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Had a dream about losing my hair, apparently its a sign that I'm worried about getting old. Am I hon now?

>obvious tranny in gay bar
>"I'm not trans, I was born a woman."
>"So you're a lesbian? This is a GAY bar."
>"N-no..."
>"So you're here for dick? At a GAY bar?"
>"I, uh... n-no..."
Don't be one of these. Just because you think you're totally passable doesn't mean you are. I was there to pick up a tranny but I sure as shit didn't leave with that one.

>>7008872
fuck.

>>6951642
>>7000378
if you touched me on the street I'd start crying

>>6974721
You're a goddess... please marry me.

>4 sessions of laser
>shaved
>beard shadow seems darker than before

>>7012597
ouch

>>7007935
> I look at myself in the mirror and basically see >>6951642
Is this supposed to be a joke? If not for the thick eyebrows and a hint of a beard shadow, I would've gendered >>6951642 female without a doubt.
I think your main problem is low self-esteem.

>>7018293
The girl in the pic has a serious case of man face and no hips

>>6998399
Eeek

I feel this is what I might look like if I went drag

>>7018791
Stop appropriating hondom

>>6998399
>tfw they still look better than you

https://discord.gg/7JpK9Es

>>7020012
This is /hong/

>>7022713
Exactly

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>turn 22 in november
>have acknowledged my dysphoria on some level since puberty began but never told anyone about it and none of the adults in my life recognized it, i stopped recognizing my face when I was about 15, i stopped caring about my life dropped out of school quit my job, don't want to do anything with my life and especially don't want to be seen by other people
>irreversibly masculine now
>it makes my fucking skin crawl 24/7
>everything i do or say makes me cringe
>don't want to be around my friends because im physically repulsive

what is someone like me supposed to do? my entire life i've been preoccupied with how fucking disgusting i look, i've never had time for anything else
is it even worth trying to fix it at the age of 21? i would need extensive surgery on my neanderthal tier skull for example
should I just commit suicide?

>>7022779
>21
FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF

I bet you don't even have a beard of iron

>>7022798
anon you don't get it, i don't have normie genetics, i have a massive autistic cavenigger skull

>>7022807
you could have just made the post neglecting age
it's like going onto r9k and starting off with "fembot here"
just don't fucking do it and you won't have problems

>>7022846
i'm so far gone at this point already though
age is a meme

>>7022851
fuck off shithead

>>7022856
you're the one being a shithead
i already suffer enough

>>7022858
waaah waah read the fucking rules asshole
fuck off and kill yourself

>>7022863
i'm not 24 but i have not started hrt yet FUCK you

>>7022868
get the fuck out of here and learn the fucking lesson. you could have avoided this by not being a massive piece of shit

>tfw future hon or dead person depending on whether i kill myself or transition

^_^

>>7022899
i'm sure you'll look great hun!! xoxo
remember u don't need hormones too pass! you can come with me and the gals out for drinks ahah we have a ball

>>7022911
At least those types of hons are happy and have friends

>>6975196
are these hon shoulders?

>>7025089
yes they are

>tfw the electrolysis person I tried contacting is fully booked for 6 months

what do I do to not be who I am?

>>7028447
You WILL transition, it'll either be now or it'll be 30 years from now

Same thing for suicide

>>7028460
So you're saying I should kill myself now? I'll consider it.

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Pre everything but just made my first appointment yesterday for hrt. Should I even bother at this point?

>>7029000
yeah, I guess, not too bad

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Can I make it?

this is not passgen

>>7029000
trips confirms

>>7031471
Not a chance.

>>7026987
Holy shit you people are nuts. She looks completely fine, there's nothing wrong with her shoulders.

>>7032712
they are not cis shoulders,
but are they hon tier?

>>6974373
you look like the gay porn star kyler moss

>>7035106
Anything not cis tier is hon tier

>>7035842
no retard

>>7035842
cis come in all shapes and sizes

>>7037000
damn right, hun!

>>7041200
vasily no

>>7041200
this is not passgen
pls go

>>7041200
>>7041202
you look like a female i used to know but that does not mean you pass
lose weight
pluck eyebrows
fill in hairline (e.g. transplants) or wear wigs
wear makeup
make long term plans for ffs
enter whirlwind online relationship with american man to get citizenship through marriage

>>7031471
Absolutely, you sure can

>>6969658
Tall and feminine is fine. Tall and masculine is not.

>>6977347
Are you a troll that keeps posting that person's pics or are you just delusional about not passing?